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  • Operator

  • Good morning. My name is Leandra, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the TimkenSteel Fourth Quarter 2017 Earnings Call. (Operator Instructions) Tina Beskid, VP Corporate Controller and Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

  • Tina M. Beskid - VP of IR and Corporate Controller

  • Great, thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2017 financial results. I am joined here today by Tim Timken, our Chairman, CEO and President; as well as Chris Holding, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

  • During today's conference call, we may make forward-looking statements as defined by the SEC. These statements relate to our expectations regarding future financial results, plans and business operations among other matters. Our actual results may differ materially from those projected or implied due to a variety of factors, which we describe in greater detail today in our press release, supporting information provided in connection with today's call, and in our reports filed with the SEC, all of which are available at the www.timkensteel.com website.

  • Where non-GAAP financial information is referenced, we have included reconciliations between such non-GAAP financial information and its GAAP equivalent in the press release and/or supporting information as appropriate.

  • Today's call is copyrighted by TimkenSteel Corporation, and we prohibit any use, recording or transmission of any portion of the call without our expressed advanced written consent. With that, now I would like to turn the call over to Tim.

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Good morning, and happy New Year to you all. A year ago, when we spoke, our message was very different than what was reflected in our earnings release last night. The fourth quarter saw a 48% increase in shipment year-over-year, despite heavier-than-usual maintenance activities. Record productivity for the days we were in operations resulted in the strong shipments in the quarter. Our financial performance was way up as well, with EBITDA on the quarter showing a significant year-over-year improvement. We also secured a new 4-year labor agreement, which was ratified by the USW membership in December. The performance in the fourth quarter capped off a year, our 100th year, in which we delivered on increased market opportunity with one of the fastest and steepest production ramps in our history. With melt utilization jumping from 40% at the end of 2016 to more than 70% in the first quarter. We sustained this production throughout 2017 by running our U.S. operations around the clock and exercising our assets with maximum efficiency. While at the same time, adding hundreds of new employees. We had a record low number of customer claims during the year, and our safety performance remains top quartile.

  • The fact that we maintained, and at times surpassed, previous safety product quality efficiency and productivity performance measures during this dramatic ramp-up is a testament to the skill and dedication of our workforce, which is, as you've heard me say in the past, it is the best in the industry.

  • As a result, we are able to take advantage of returning customer demand and win business away from our competitors, both foreign and domestic. In fact, we increased base sales by more than 60% compared to 2016. The upward momentum in our markets and the increased need for our product and technical expertise is encouraging, as are the gains we've made in market share and penetration into new markets and applications. Again, this positive -- against this positive backdrop, we implemented 3 price increases and -- excuse me, 4 price increases. In 2017, bar pricing was up $110 per ton and seamless mechanical tubing was up $70 for customers who don't have an annual long-term contract in place. As I look ahead, our markets are showing continued signs of positive movement. North American light vehicle remains strong on balanced inventories. Machinery remains stable. The mining market has a strong outlook due to recovering commodity prices.

  • In oil and gas, we are expecting to see improving oil prices through 2018 on balance supply and demand dynamics. Oil Country Tubular Goods are trending positively with increased completion activity on drilled but uncompleted wells. And distribution is showing balanced inventory levels in industrial and improved inventory levels in energy markets. These market trends give us an optimistic outlook for the year. We started the year with agreements in place with our largest customers. We are pleased with the outcome of those contract discussions and believe they provide mutual value as well as great opportunity to grow together.

  • In the first quarter, we expect shipments to be up between 2% and 5%. We'll have some margin dilution in the first quarter, as we clean up past due orders caused by weather delays at the end of the year. We also remain focused on continuous improvement in our plans to address inflation in our supply agreements for electrodes and refractory. We have agreements in place that are sure supply but we faced the same price increases as the other steelmakers have also seen.

  • We're looking forward -- we're looking further ahead than 2018 though. Our sights are locked on delivering shareholder value at all points in the economic cycle. Since 2014, when we relaunched this 100-year old business as an independent company, our employees have been relentless in taking on the significant external challenges we faced and building a company that will perform better both through the up and down economic cycles.

  • We've become more efficient in our operation and more aggressive in stretching our know-how and asset advantages into new areas. We've honed our strategy and believe that the momentum we've created will make this year a turning point for us. Our goal is not to simply survive but to thrive, to win and to deliver ever-improving returns to our shareholders.

  • On behalf of our leadership team and the Board of Directors, I want to thank our employees, our suppliers, our community's customers and our shareholders for supporting us during a pivotal year in the history of TimkenSteel. With that, Chris will take us through the financials in more detail and then we'll take your questions.

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • Thanks, Tim. Good morning. The fourth quarter results were in line with our expectations and guidance. The quarter was impacted by normal seasonal events, including annual maintenance activities and fewer ship days due to holidays and customer-shutdown activities. Excluding the annual maintenance expenses of $11 million incurred in the quarter, our results were structurally similar to the second and third quarters of the year.

  • Total shipments of 286,000 tons in the quarter were 48% higher than last year and relatively flat to the third quarter. The year-over-year improvement was a result of strengthened end-market demand and increased market penetration. Mobile shipments were 3% higher than the third quarter of 2017, mostly from an increase in the North American light vehicle production build rate. Production cuts made by the OEMs in the second half of 2017 were successful in rebalancing inventory levels, which aided the sequential improvement. The 2018 projected SAAR of 17.4 million units represents a 2% increase over 2017. For the first quarter 2018, we expect mobile shipments to be about 5% higher than the fourth quarter 2017 due to seasonality and increased participation on new programs.

  • Industrial shipments were similar to the third quarter of 2017, and 56% higher than in the fourth quarter of last year. Strength in the global commodity markets, new business and balanced inventory levels positively affected our industrial end markets.

  • In the first quarter of 2018, we expect a sequential increase in industrial shipments of about 13%, as the general economic sentiment remains positive in most of the industrial market sectors.

  • Fourth quarter 2017 shipments to the energy end market increased about 4% sequentially and up -- was almost 3.5x higher than the same quarter a year ago off a very low base. The U.S. rig count has stabilized to around 940 active rigs, and we remain encouraged by improving customer inventory positions. We expect the first quarter 2018 energy shipments to be about 18% higher than the fourth quarter of 2017. Net sales for the quarter were $341 million, with base sales of $264 million and surcharges of $77 million. Base sales per ton were $21 a ton higher than the third quarter due to improved mixed and recent price increases in the spot market.

  • Looking forward, we expect improving product mix and higher prices to increase our base sales per ton by about 3% to 4% in the first quarter with additional improvements in the subsequent quarters.

  • Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was about $8 million compared to adjusted EBITDA of $19 million in the third quarter. For the year, adjusted EBITDA was $69 million compared to the prior year adjusted EBITDA of $24 million. The improvement in earnings is primarily due to higher volumes and better scrap prices.

  • Capital expenditures for the year totaled $36 million, which was $7 million lower than 2016, as we continue to focus on leveraging our past investments and improving free cash flow. We estimate full year 2018 capital spending will be about $40 million.

  • Free cash flow for the year was the use of $25 million, which was principally invested in working capital to support growing market demand.

  • The balance sheet remains healthy as we ended the year with $189 million of liquidity and a net debt-to-capital ratio of 19.4%. Today, we expect to finalize an amendment to our credit agreement. The new agreement will increase the facility size to $300 million, reduce borrowing cost and improve terms. The amended facility, which will mature in 2023, will provide us with greater liquidity and additional financial flexibility.

  • Gross profit for the quarter was $9 million, which includes about $11 million of annual maintenance expense. Excluding these expenses, gross profit for the quarter would have been about $20 million, which is an improvement over the third quarter 2017. Melt utilization was 68% or 6 percentage points lower than the third quarter utilization rate.

  • SG&A for the quarter was about $23 million, which was similar to the third quarter of 2017. Cost control efforts were very effective throughout the year as SG&A expenses of $90 million were flat compared to 2016, even with a 34% increase in base sales.

  • In the fourth quarter, we reported a net loss of $34 million, including approximately $20 million for a noncash pension remeasurement expense related to mark-to-market accounting. Income taxes in the quarter were about $300,000 and were related to foreign sourced income.

  • Tax expense was impacted by evaluation allowance with offset deferred taxed assets. We did not incur any tax rate impact in the quarter from the recently enacted tax law change. In 2018, our tax expense will be primarily related to taxes paid outside of the U.S.

  • Turning to the outlook for the first quarter, shipments are expected to be approximately 10,000 to 20,000 tons higher than the fourth quarter 2017, based upon continued improved demand across most markets. As a result, we expect the EBITDA range to be between $20 million and $30 million.

  • In conclusion, we're much better positioned from both a profit and balance sheet perspective than 1 year ago. Our improved cost structure and liquidity place us in a good position to take advantage of improving market sentiment in 2018. We look forward to improving performance as the year progresses. This ends our prepared statements. We'll now take your questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And your first question comes from the line of Seth Rosenfeld with Jefferies.

  • Seth R. Rosenfeld - Equity Analyst

  • I have 2 different questions. I guess, starting out first and then I'll come back on the second, please. But thinking about your 2018 annual contracts across the various business lines including industrial, mobile, energy, billet. Can you just give us a sense of what scale of year-over-year increase you're able to secure? And what net margin impact that could have going into the coming year? I'll come back with the second question, please.

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • Yes, this is Chris. We don't discuss our price increases or price decreases year-over-year. I would say that if you look at what the market would bear, we got what the market would bear. And most of that increase in the OE comes in, in the first quarter of the year and a little bit bleeds in in the second and third quarter.

  • Seth R. Rosenfeld - Equity Analyst

  • Okay, thank you. So on that basis the EBITDA guidance of $20 million to $30 million, should we view that as a relatively fair run rate reflecting the contract wins you're able to secure for the year?

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • Well, on the contract business, keep in mind, there'll be a couple of things in play: one, we'll have a little bit of a lag impact, so you won't quite see all the January 1 effective date impact in Q1 because we have a little bit of a lag. Then we also have spot price teed up for Q1. I mean, pardon me, Q2, April 1 for tube. And we also have some of the OE price increase kicking in, in the second quarter.

  • Seth R. Rosenfeld - Equity Analyst

  • Okay, thank you. And then separately, just thinking about your scrap consumption. Can you give us a sense of the rough mix between prime scrap versus obsolete in 2017? And then can you just discuss a little bit the scale of benefit that you saw in the last year given the particularly widespread between busheling and shred? What impact could you see in 2018 if that spread normalizes over time?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Yes. So we'll talk about spreads. The spread for the year was positive, year-over-year it was a great year in terms of spread. And there was a dynamic in the year relative to prime and obsolete grades and that clearly benefited our results in 2017. We see that probably a little bit less in 2018. We think that will narrow. For the first quarter, our spread versus the fourth quarter should be a little bit better. So I think for the first quarter the spread dynamics in the fourth quarter hold plus maybe a slight little tailwind.

  • Seth R. Rosenfeld - Equity Analyst

  • Okay, thank you. So I guess, a slight benefit in Q1, but a normalization viewed as being very likely thereafter?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • That's fair.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Novid Rassouli with Cowen.

  • Novid R. Rassouli - VP

  • First, I just wanted to talk about the EBITDA guide. I just wanted to see, if you can help us better understand kind of the bridge from 4Q to 1Q? Just kind of looking at the backdrop, shipment is up, better pricing, higher raw material spreads. I would have maybe expected a little bit higher level of earning. So if you could help quantify maybe the impact of the margin dilution from the past orders that you mentioned earlier on the call, and potentially, what your earnings range would have been without the impact of that?

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • Yes, I don't think that's a really large number, Novid. It will impact the quarter but it's not a major driver. If you bridge from Q4 of '17 to Q1 of '18, you look at kind of volume price mix with price probably being the heavier hitter. That and manufacturing really are going to make up the bridge for Q4 to Q1, and we have a little bit of favorable spread baked in, but it's pretty small. So I mean, take out a little bit of spread, and I'd say, half the improvement is in manufacturing and the other half is volume, price and mix.

  • Novid R. Rassouli - VP

  • Okay. And then just on pricing. I know you'd mentioned it on the previous question, but 85% of your shipments are contracted. It sounded like you're getting most of that in 1Q with some in the 2Q. Is there a way that you can quantify kind of the percentage of contract resets that are built into this $20 million to $30 million versus what we'll see incrementally in 2Q?

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • Probably the best way to say -- you could see most of it in Q1. And again, this is all the annual contracts stuff that again, you'll see most of it occur in Q1. And numbers in 2Q and Q3 are really relatively small.

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • We do have at least a couple of contracts that reset midyear. And then we have a number that are still multiyear that weren't renegotiated this time around.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Phil Gibbs with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

  • Philip Ross Gibbs - VP and Equity Research Analyst

  • I had a question on the billet agreement into next year. And it looks like based on your implied guidance that the billet sales are stepping down a bit. Any color you can provide us on the outlook there for the year?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Yes, Phil, as you know, we don't really comment on individual negotiations. But I will say that as we've looked into '18, we have reduced the total billet exposure as part of our overall mix.

  • Philip Ross Gibbs - VP and Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay. And I think, Tim, you mentioned in your prepared remarks some impacts from electrodes in refractories. Does that begin to impact you in the first quarter or does that start to really impact you in the second quarter based on existing, call it, inventory of consumables, I'm just trying to understand what the cadence is as we move through the year?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Yes, we've begun to feel it. We will feel it in the first quarter, but obviously, to the extent that we replaced old inventory with new inventory at higher prices, obviously, we'll feel a bigger impact to that.

  • Philip Ross Gibbs - VP and Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay. And I wanted to clarify a comment you made on the distribution channels in the energy side. I think you said improved. Does that mean you believe that the distributors are more well-stocked with inventory or less stocked? I was just trying to qualify the comment.

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Based on the feedback that we're getting, Phil, it seems like they've got a pretty good balance in the channels right now. I talked to one of our larger distributors yesterday and he's feeling pretty good about where they are.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And your next question comes from the line of Justin Bergner with Gabelli & Company.

  • Justin Laurence Bergner - VP

  • To start off, I'd like to follow up with the earlier question, which is on the billet shipments. If I just sort of back out the implied first quarter billet shipments within your sort of overall shipment guide, it suggests that they're going to be down sort on the order of 10,000 per ton -- 10,000 tons sequentially, I guess. Could you confirm that that's sort of in the right ballpark? And then, is the first quarter billet shipments indicative of what we can expect for the remainder of 2018?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Yes, your numbers are in the ballpark. We do have a little bit of a past due that we're working our way through as a result of some weather issues that we had in the fourth quarter. That will -- we'll get through that in the first quarter and then you'll begin to see the actual rate kind of normalize.

  • Justin Laurence Bergner - VP

  • Okay. And industrial shipments, I guess, you'd enter the fourth quarter expecting them to be up, I think, 3% to 5%, they were down slightly. What was behind that? Does that relate to some of these shipping disruptions? Any color there would be helpful.

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • Yes, Justin, I think you hit the nail on the head there. It clearly wasn't market demand, it was some short-term shipping disruptions in the fourth quarter.

  • Justin Laurence Bergner - VP

  • Okay. And then on the machinery side. Has there been any sort of deceleration? I mean, in that market the end market slide suggests that it's a green light from a market sentiment point of view and flat sequentially from a TimkenSteel's sentiment point of view. I think that's similar to what you had last quarter, but I'm just going to gauge if you see any sort of tempering of that market?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • No, we've seen good activity out of that space. It began to improve earlier and we see that maintaining.

  • Justin Laurence Bergner - VP

  • Okay. I also wanted to address 2 -- Section 232 tariffs. I realize that the jury is still out on what's going to happen there as it relates to steel. But do you have any more color if those tariffs were to go through how they would affect the steel markets you compete in versus sort of the broader commoditized steel markets?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Yes, I think, you know that they submitted their report, the Commerce Department submitted the report to the President in kind of middle of January, which starts a 90-day clock. You run that out, theoretically, something is going to happen at the latest by April. Our hope is, from an industry's perspective, is that it doesn't take that long. There have been a couple of recent developments out of the administration on both the solar case and the washing machine case that says, they're not afraid of to take our trade partners head on, and they've already begun to see the impact of that in the market. You've seen the first of the washing machine guys come out with a price increase. So our sense is that they will take action on this. We are encouraging them to take broad action, not just country-specific action, and to the extent that that is where we end up, we believe it will have a positive impact on the marketplace.

  • Justin Laurence Bergner - VP

  • Okay. And your -- the grades of steel that you produce would seemingly be part of a broader program if these 232 tariffs were enacted?

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • That's correct.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And your next question comes from the line of Phil Gibbs with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

  • Philip Ross Gibbs - VP and Equity Research Analyst

  • Tim, I had a -- more of a question on the recent ramp of the Q&T line and let us know where you're at in terms of that process, and I think it's a 40,000 or 50,000 ton bump in mix or differentiation for you guys. How much of that gets shipped in 2018? And are you looking at that as a driver to some nice improvement in mix in '18?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • The total capacity on the facility is 50,000 tons. As we continue to see improvement on the oil and gas and industrial side, the big consumers of Q&T kind of product. We would expect to get a pretty good loading on that facility as we run through the year. End markets seem to be supporting it. Our first quarter orders would support that assumption. So we feel pretty good about where we are right now in the ramp.

  • Philip Ross Gibbs - VP and Equity Research Analyst

  • So do you think you can utilize that 50%, 75%? I'm just trying to understand how you can ramp up to that capacity that's you have -- what you have visibility to perhaps?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Sure. It is a ramp, as you know. And so our expectation, we'll get better quarter-by-quarter as we continue to see improvements in the oil and gas markets and the industrial space. So we feel good about being able to load that facility by the end of the year.

  • Philip Ross Gibbs - VP and Equity Research Analyst

  • And if I look at that Q&T line ideally for you, how much of that split would be between industrial and energy?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Yes, I don't have that off the top of my head, Phil. Yes, it is -- think about big industrial product, big oil and gas. That's why we built the facility and that's how we intend to load it.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And your next question comes from the line of Scott Blumenthal with Emerald Advisors.

  • Scott Benjamin Blumenthal - Senior Research Analyst

  • Chris, could you maybe talk a little bit about what your expectations are with regard to guidance? You have about a $10 million range there for EBITDA guidance. And what would have to happen for you to get to the top? And what would be your expectations as to how the quarter would play out for you to be kind of at the bottom of the range?

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • Yes, I'll address the positive side first, if that's okay. For us, it's going to be about shipments. I mean, we did not have as good a shipment quarter as we would have liked in Q4 for a couple of reasons that Tim alluded to. So our upside is going to be primarily around shipments in the quarter. And the downside would be if something probably goes materially wrong in the scrap markets.

  • Scott Benjamin Blumenthal - Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay. And when you're talking about shipments, when you realized that, I think, the Wall Street Journal even this morning had a piece about trucking capacity, hauling capacity being very, very tight. Is that what you guys are struggling with? Or is it actually getting the stuff out of the plant?

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • It's clearly the latter. With -- clearly inflationary impact, some freight, and it is tight and we do have to be careful. But that hasn't been limiting our shipment. It's really been internal production issues.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of [Alex James] with Bronson Point.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • Tim, could you just spend a little bit more time on the first quarter guidance and the bridge from Q4 into Q1? Just walking through the 8 -- in fact, the 11 maintenance expenses, plus some incremental volume plus a small scrap benefit into Q1. That seems to get you towards the midpoint of guidance before any price and mix benefit, and presumably, price and mix is better in Q1. So just trying to better understand that bridge, please.

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • Yes. I'll let Chris fill in any gaps that he didn't -- that might have come out of his first answer.

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • Yes. So in the -- remember, the volume price mix, right, I said, is going to be kind of, call it, half of the difference from the bridge from Q4 to Q1. Again, to reiterate, spread, relatively small, the rest of the differences; manufacturing will be one half of the difference and volume price mix will be the other half. And most of that volume price mix would be shaded towards the price side.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Justin Bergner with Gabelli & Company.

  • Justin Laurence Bergner - VP

  • Just on the question of price and mix. I mean, as we look at the 4Q base sales per ton in your industrial and energy markets, the increase is sequentially from the third quarter. Are those mainly price or are those mainly mix? Just to get a sense as to how the fourth quarter looked ahead of 2018.

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • It's a little bit of both because we had spot prices in the market and so a significant portion of our energy sales are in the distribution side, and that's an all spot. So call it half of each.

  • Justin Laurence Bergner - VP

  • Okay. Half of each, price and mix for both industrial and energy?

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • No, I was just referring to energy.

  • Justin Laurence Bergner - VP

  • Okay. And the industrial side would be sequential base sales per ton increase be more price or more mix?

  • Christopher J. A. Holding - CFO and EVP

  • It's a little bit more mix in the industrial side just because the OE side is larger in industrial than -- on a percentage basis than on the energy side.

  • Justin Laurence Bergner - VP

  • Okay. That helps. And then just one thing, I guess, that was in the slide deck but wasn't as discussed on the call was sort of new products and technologies. Obviously, the slide deck focuses on or highlights the endurance steels. Any material updates on the new product front you guys want to highlight?

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • We -- Justin, we continue to run a very active portfolio of new product development. The endurance is one that we've talked a lot about. But we have a number of other specialty grades that we continue to take to the marketplace. Some of the Ultrapremium work that we're doing, high-performance kind of products as well as advances in our value-added business. So we're excited about the portfolio. We believe that we will begin to see some of that impact in 2018 and beyond.

  • Operator

  • I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Tim Timken for closing remarks.

  • Ward J. Timken - Chairman, CEO and President

  • All right. Well, thanks very much for the questions today. Obviously, we're looking forward to a year of continued improvement in performance and appreciate your interest in the company. I'd like to reiterate that for the first quarter, shipments are expected to be up between 3% and 6%, which, to us, is obviously exciting and bodes well for our performance for the year. If you have any remaining questions, be sure to contact Tina after the meeting. Thank you, and have a great day.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.