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  • Operator

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  • Welcome to the Motorola Solutions' Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call.

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  • (Operator Instructions)

  • I would now like to introduce Mr. Tim Yocum, Vice President of Investor Relations.

  • Mr. Yocum, you may begin.

  • Tim Yocum;Vice President of Investor Relations^ Good afternoon.

  • Welcome to our 2019 second quarter earnings call.

  • With me today are Greg Brown, Chairman and CEO; Gino Bonanotte, Executive Vice President and CFO; and Kelly Mark, Executive Vice President, Services and Software.

  • Greg and Gino will review our results along with commentary, and Kelly will join for Q&A.

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  • And during the call, we reference non-GAAP financial results including those in our outlook, unless otherwise noted.

  • A number of forward-looking statements will be made during this presentation and during the Q&A portion of the call.

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  • Actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements.

  • Information about factors that could cause such differences can be found in today's earnings news release, in the comments made during this conference call, in the Risk Factors section of our 2018 annual report on Form 10-K and in our other reports and filings with the SEC.

  • We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statement.

  • And with that, I'll turn it over to Greg.

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Thanks, Tim.

  • Good afternoon and thanks, everybody, for joining us today.

  • Before I get started I would like to inform you all that due to a death in the family, Jack Molloy is unable to join us for the call today.

  • So obviously, our thoughts and prayers are with Jack and his family this afternoon.

  • Turning to the call.

  • I'll start off by sharing a few thoughts about the overall business before Gino takes us through the results and outlook.

  • First, Q2 was another strong quarter.

  • We grew revenue 6%, earnings per share 16% and expanded operating margins by 240 basis points versus the prior year.

  • Additionally, we ended the quarter with our highest backlog position ever of $10.9 billion, up $1.5 billion year-over-year and up $500 million sequentially.

  • Second, we continue to execute well in both segments of the business.

  • Our product segment grew 4% and expanded operating margins by 50 basis points, while our Services and Software segment grew 9% and expanded operating margins by 590 basis points.

  • This strong broad-based performance shows that our customers continue to value the Public Safety ecosystem we have built across our platforms, in mission-critical communications, command center software and video security solutions.

  • And finally, based on our Q2 results and the demand we continue to see across our portfolio, we're raising both revenue and earnings per share estimates for the full year.

  • And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Gino to provide additional details on Q2 and outlook before returning for some closing thoughts.

  • Gino A. Bonanotte - Executive VP & CFO

  • Thank you, Greg.

  • Q2 includes revenue of $1.9 billion, up 6% versus last year, including $33 million of revenue from acquisitions, offset by $37 million of currency headwinds.

  • Organic revenue growth was 4%.

  • GAAP operating earnings of $349 million, up $76 million; and operating margins of 18.8% of sales compared to 15.5% in the year-ago quarter.

  • Non-GAAP operating earnings of $444 million, up $66 million or 17%; and non-GAAP operating margins of 23.9% of sales, up 240 basis points from 21.5%, driven by higher sales and gross margin, partially offset by higher OpEx from acquisitions.

  • GAAP earnings per share of $1.18 compared to $1.05 in the year-ago quarter.

  • Non-GAAP EPS of $1.69, up 16% from $1.46 last year.

  • OpEx in Q2 was $494 million, up $31 million versus last year, primarily due to acquisitions.

  • Other income and expense was $51 million compared to $44 million in the year-ago quarter, driven primarily by increases in foreign currency and nonoperating expenses.

  • The Q2 effective tax rate was 24% compared to 25% last year.

  • Turning to cash flow.

  • Q2 operating cash flow was $251 million compared with $425 million in the prior year, and free cash flow was $188 million compared to $384 million in the prior year, driven by the timing of incentive payments and cash taxes.

  • For the first half of 2019, excluding the voluntary $500 million pension contribution made in 2018, operating cash flow was up $77 million and free cash flow was up $30 million driven by higher earnings.

  • Capital allocation for Q2 included $94 million in cash dividends, $63 million of CapEx and $25 million of share repurchases at an average price of $146.65.

  • Additionally, we issued $650 million of new 10-year senior unsecured notes and used the proceeds to repurchase existing notes, resulting in an extended weighted average debt maturity profile.

  • And subsequent to quarter-end, we acquired WatchGuard, a leader in in-car and body-worn video for public safety for total consideration of $271 million.

  • Moving to segment results.

  • Q2 Products and Systems Integration sales were $1.2 billion, up $49 million or 4% driven by the Americas.

  • Revenue from acquisitions in the quarter was $16 million, offset by currency headwinds of $18 million.

  • Operating earnings were $242 million or 19.5% of sales, up 50 basis points from last year on higher sales and gross margin partially offset by higher OpEx from acquisitions and investments in our video security solutions portfolio.

  • Notable Q2 wins in the segment include: $60 million of additional P25 orders for the state-wide system in North Dakota; a $46 million P25 order from Oakland County, Michigan; a $34 million P25 order from Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority, $5 million of Public Safety video security contracts in Broward County, Florida and the Cleveland Metro area; and several multimillion-dollar video security wins in the education vertical.

  • Moving to Services and Software.

  • Revenue was $622 million, up $51 million or 9% from last year, driven by growth in the Americas and the EMEA.

  • Revenue from acquisitions in the quarter was $17 million offset by currency headwinds of $19 million.

  • Operating earnings were $202 million or 32.5% of sales, up 590 basis points from last year, driven by higher sales, gross margin expansion and OpEx reduction.

  • Some notable Q2 wins in the segment included a $200 million ESN extension through 2024; a $60 million P25 multiyear services agreement with the state of Tennessee, extending service through 2028; a $59 million 5-year contract extension to provide license plate data and analytical software; and a $5 million records management contract for Baltimore County.

  • Looking at regional results.

  • Americas' Q2 revenue was $1.3 billion, up 11%, driven by broad-based growth across all platforms.

  • EMEA Q2 revenue was $356 million, down 7% due to 2 large system deployments in the Middle East and Africa in the prior year and currency headwinds, partially offset by growth in Europe.

  • And in Asia Pac, Q2 revenue was $157 million, down 7% or $12 million due to currency headwinds in China.

  • Moving to backlog.

  • Ending backlog was $10.9 billion, up $1.5 billion or 16% compared to last year, inclusive of a $119 million unfavorable change in currency rates.

  • Sequentially, backlog was up $492 million with growth in both segments.

  • Services and Software backlog was up $1.5 billion or 24% compared to last year, driven by EMEA and the Americas.

  • Sequentially, backlog was up $430 million due to multiyear contracts in the Americas and the ESN extension.

  • Products and SI segment backlog was down $48 million or 2% compared to last year, primarily due to large system deployments during the prior year in the Middle East and Africa, partially offset by $165 million of growth in the Americas.

  • Sequentially, backlog was up $62 million, driven by the Americas.

  • Turning to our outlook.

  • We expect Q3 sales to be up approximately 6.5% with non-GAAP EPS between $1.91 and $1.96.

  • This assumes $20 million of FX headwinds at current rates, a weighted average diluted share count of approximately 177 million shares, and an effective tax rate of approximately 25% versus 18% in the prior year.

  • For full year 2019, we now expect revenue growth of 7% to 7.5%, up from our prior guidance of 6% to 7%; and we now expect non-GAAP EPS between $7.67 and $7.77, up from our prior guidance of $7.60 to $7.72.

  • This full year outlook assumes $115 million of FX headwinds at current rates, an increase of $25 million from our prior outlook; $40 million from the acquisition of WatchGuard; an effective tax rate of 24% to 25%; and a weighted average diluted share count of approximately 176 million shares.

  • Full year operating cash flow is expected to be approximately $1.7 billion.

  • I'd now like to turn the call back over to Greg.

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Thanks, Gino.

  • Let me just close with a few thoughts.

  • First, Q2 was outstanding.

  • We had strong organic revenue growth in both segments, significantly expanded both gross margins and operating margins, and ended the quarter with our highest backlog position ever.

  • Second, the acquisitions we've made in video security and command center software are having a meaningful impact on our business.

  • With our recent purchase of WatchGuard, we've now made acquisitions in these 2 areas that total $2.4 billion.

  • These acquisitions are expected to contribute revenue of about $1 billion this year, growing high-teens, with an EBITDA profile of about 20% and growing.

  • And finally, if I look to the second half of this year, I'm encouraged by our performance led by North America, which saw strong organic growth in both segments during the quarter.

  • LMR demand remains robust and our video security and command center software solutions continue to gain momentum, which positions us well for expanded free cash flow generation going forward.

  • I now would like to turn the call back over to Tim.

  • Tim Yocum;Vice President of Investor Relations^ Thanks, Greg.

  • Before we begin taking questions, I'd like to remind callers to limit themselves to 1 question and 1 follow-up to accommodate as many participants as possible.

  • Operator, would you please remind our callers on the line how to ask a question?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And our first question will come from George Notter of Jefferies.

  • George Charles Notter - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • I guess, I wanted to start off by asking about the backlog.

  • Obviously, a nice sequential jump here to $10.9 billion.

  • Can you kind of walk us through the different puts and takes on that backlog that you gave us, I think, some parts of it when you're talking about the segments.

  • But I guess, I'm trying to drill down into the organic backlog growth, and some insights into the puts and takes would be great.

  • Gino A. Bonanotte - Executive VP & CFO

  • Sure, George.

  • This is Gino.

  • So if -- let's talk year-over-year first.

  • For Services and Software, up $1.5 billion.

  • The way to think about that is about 2/3 of that is the U.K. Home Office extensions that we talked about, and 1/3 of it are North America multiyear service contracts.

  • For Products and Systems Integration, year-over-year down on projects in the Middle East and Africa, and up in the Americas.

  • And sequentially is the $500 million of growth is driven primarily by North America multiyear contracts as well as the $200 million ESN contract extension.

  • George Charles Notter - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Got it.

  • And then what would the organic growth look like in backlog?

  • It sounds like a whole lot of this is organic.

  • If you could just clarify that, that'd be great.

  • Gino A. Bonanotte - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • It's primarily organic.

  • Primarily all organic.

  • George Charles Notter - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Okay.

  • And then, I guess, the topic du jour is China trade wars.

  • Obviously, there's a new salvo here in terms of tariffs that would get implemented on the next tranche of goods.

  • But I guess I was just wondering what the bigger picture is now with -- you're competing with Hytera and Hikvision on a couple different sides of the business.

  • Just give us your sense for what's going on there and how you're taking advantage of that competitively?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Well, I mean, contextually, George, as the tariff trade war continues with China, including the tariffs increase that Trump announced a few hours ago, that is contemplated in the guidance we're giving for the full year.

  • For the second half, roughly, it's about an incremental $8 million or $9 million for the full year.

  • Actually, it's $8 million or $9 million for the full year and roughly half of that for the second half.

  • But that increase that he talked about being implemented September 1 is already contemplated.

  • I remind you that we've made decisions going back several years ago where we no longer do manufacturing in China.

  • I think mainland China revenue was about 1.5% to 1.7% of our revenue, so we don't have a concentration there.

  • We don't do product management.

  • We don't do software development.

  • So I think we're pretty well insulated from some of the things that are going on there.

  • Competitively, it's an advantage in 2 different areas.

  • If I take Hytera first, and the litigation, as you know, we won the patent infringement case in D.C. with the International Trade Commission that implemented an import ban and a cease-and-desist order.

  • We've had 2 wins in Germany, in Mannheim and Dusseldorf.

  • There's a trial going on as we speak in Australia for patent infringement and source code copying, and we're optimistic about the outcome.

  • And then the big one is Chicago in November in 2019.

  • And despite repeated attempts by Hytera to delay and deflect multiple efforts to push that trial into 2020, we have every reason to believe that it will happen in November, in Chicago, with a jury trial that will evaluate a trade secret theft and source code copying, and I and we are looking forward to that trial and, subsequently, that outcome.

  • On the Hikvision and Dahua video security space as it relates to the NDAA, the procurement ban goes into effect in 13 days on August 13.

  • By the way, Avigilon in the video business performed well in Q2.

  • It grew double digits.

  • It's tracking where we expect it to be.

  • Video security, we think, will be about 15% for the full year, which is 3x the market growth, which we articulated before.

  • And interestingly enough, those results actually don't really include anything from the federal market.

  • We haven't gained traction yet.

  • The sales cycle in Fed is even longer than state and local.

  • But to your point, George, I think we will become a beneficiary of the NDAA procurement ban for Hikvision and Dahua in the video security space, but I think that will be more likely 2020.

  • We are encouraged by the ongoing discussions we have with our Fed customers, and I think that will be beneficial in 2020.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Adam Tindle of Raymond James.

  • Adam Tyler Tindle - Research Analyst

  • Greg, I just wanted to start with WatchGuard, and maybe touching on the strategic vision with that asset.

  • I'd imagine there's some synergies with other acquisitions that you've done like VaaS.

  • And in that light, I understand the majority of mix for that business is related to in-car video systems based on S-1 they filed a couple of years ago, but they also have a body-worn camera business.

  • And wanting to understand if that piece is something you think is worth investing in, and how you'll approach that market.

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Thanks, Adam.

  • We're excited about WatchGuard.

  • To dimensionalize it, it is the in-car camera market leader, which fills in a gap that we had within the video solutions portfolio.

  • Secondarily, we are seeing, and Molloy is seeing, more customers that are buying in-car and body-worn together, which we think is obviously a positive outcome and gives us some optimism for that asset going forward.

  • On the revenue side, we believe WatchGuard will contribute about $40 million in 2019.

  • But what I love about it is it's all a similar sales motion.

  • So it's another key asset in video surveillance and analytics that gets put into the sales force North America-strong 500-plus people that we think we can grow it substantially.

  • I mean, WatchGuard, very good company but they have 35 salespeople, half of which are inside salespeople.

  • So we will, by definition, give them significant more market reach, touchpoints with all the customers that we have.

  • Bring them into conversations where we have incumbency in land mobile radio and command center software.

  • We think it's very strategic.

  • I'm excited about it.

  • And on the body-worn side, to your point, we have a body-worn platform.

  • They do, too.

  • We'll look to rationalize that together.

  • And as I mentioned, over time, sell them in tandem to match more and more the way our customers are buying.

  • Adam Tyler Tindle - Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And maybe just as a quick follow-up.

  • Services and Software margins were certainly a highlight in the quarter, significant improvement both sequentially and on a year-over-year basis.

  • If you could just maybe double click on the drivers.

  • How much was greater mix of command center?

  • Was it operational improvements in core services, and the sustainability of that?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • I'll start and maybe Kelly will jump in.

  • But I think the strong performance was a combination of top line growth and operating expense efficiencies.

  • I mean, it was a fantastic quarter by Kelly and his team, and Andrew Sinclair on the software side, all the people working services.

  • Very, very pleased.

  • We had talked about an operating margin for that segment for this year moving toward 30%.

  • If we look at that segment of Services and Software, for the first half, the operating margin is about 30.5%.

  • We now believe, given that first half performance, that the full year operating margin will look more like 30% to 31% on the operating margin side.

  • So it's just good work by Kelly and his team.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Keith Housum of Northcoast Research.

  • Keith Michael Housum - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Greg, just going back to that tariff real quick.

  • From a competitive advantage standpoint, there should be some advantage that you guys have versus your Chinese-based competitors, especially in the PCR market, correct?

  • And then how do you guys extrapolate on that?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Well, I think, look, I think, generally, you're right, Keith.

  • It is an advantage.

  • There's more and more developed countries that are very sensitive to putting Chinese gear or Chinese electronics or wireless technology into either a critical infrastructure.

  • Obviously, they don't even consider that here in the States.

  • So from a market standpoint, that's an advantage.

  • It's an advantage for us as we go head-to-head against Hytera in the litigation.

  • By the way, that was self-inflicted by them.

  • So when a company steals an intellectual property, for us that puts so much R&D and patent protection and investment around innovation, we're going to fight appropriately.

  • We want to compete.

  • We like a level playing field.

  • But what they've done is egregious, systematic, multiyear.

  • And I think and we think that there will be a penalty in a payment for them as a result of their actions.

  • And on the video side, of course you're right as well, 2 of the largest video providers being Hikvision and Dahua.

  • And of course, we have to remember that Huawei has a high silicon division that provides the semiconductor that guides some of the intelligence in OEM and white label cameras as well, and that's a benefit, too.

  • So generally, net-net, I think we're a bit unique in that the Chinese situation in total is more tailwind than headwind for our company for a whole host of reasons.

  • Keith Michael Housum - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Got you.

  • And for my follow-up, I would be remiss if I didn't ask about FirstNet.

  • Obviously, AT&T has been thumping their chest in terms of the new additions they have.

  • But what are you seeing in terms of benefit -- your benefit from it, and are people transitioning over to push-to-talk?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • They're not.

  • We don't see really any benefit at all in terms of revenue contribution for us.

  • We didn't have really any in Q1.

  • We didn't have any in Q2.

  • And for the full year, Keith, we're really projecting low single-digit millions; very, very little.

  • Obviously, AT&T will continue to build-out the network.

  • They're adding "connections or subscribers".

  • It's a cellular data play, and they will look to win back customers from Verizon or T-Mobile or Sprint onto FirstNet data plans that is separate than LMR.

  • It's incremental to LMR, obviously, as we've seen given the organic strength of land mobile radio here in the states.

  • And we would know if the users were incremental push-to-talk over cellular because FirstNet is using Kodiak for that solution, which we own as an asset.

  • And when we look at the traction and the growth there, we really don't see it.

  • So FirstNet, I think, is obviously working for AT&T, and I think that's great.

  • But for us, it has no meaningful revenue contribution at all this year.

  • Keith Michael Housum - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Is there expectation you'll have it next year or the following year?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • I think too early to project for next year, but from my view, expectations are pretty muted.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Paul Coster of JPMorgan.

  • Paul Coster - Senior Analyst, Alternative Energy & Applied and Emerging Technologies

  • Actually, Greg, I'd like to pursue that just a little bit further, which is to say that AT&T is seeing several hundred thousand subscribers so far on FirstNet, which is a drop in the ocean, I know.

  • But some of the device companies are getting very excited about the opportunity.

  • And I guess, the question, it's sort of a 2-part question.

  • One is, what is your plan in terms of deploying devices on to FirstNet.

  • How does Motorola make money out of the device side of the story?

  • And the second is, do you see any competition here for finite budgets inside the FirstNet -- as the first responder community?

  • And is that the probable reason for the many interesting initiatives you're doing in that context?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Well to answer to the second one first, we see budgets being pretty healthy here in U.S. state and local.

  • That, combined with the criticality of what we sell into public safety on mission-critical communication platforms, as well as command center software and video security, makes what we sell more of a must-have than a need-to-have.

  • On the device side, Paul, we already have a device approved on the FirstNet procurement list.

  • So we have the LEX product that's approved.

  • I think it's fair to say that you'll see us have some additional new products over time.

  • But today, first responders have that land mobile radio P25 here in the U.S. and a smartphone.

  • And if there's an additional device, if you will, that device will replace the smartphone, which we don't have any market share to begin with anyway.

  • So device, while I said earlier, is pretty much 0 for us to date, there's really nothing but upside.

  • Because if there is some kind of device that may get traction on FirstNet from a data side, it would be a smartphone enhancement or a smartphone-like replacement and won't affect the mission-critical, typically, APX P25 radio.

  • Paul Coster - Senior Analyst, Alternative Energy & Applied and Emerging Technologies

  • Fair enough.

  • And they look to this FirstNet network to sort of roll in to the 5G plans as well.

  • That likewise you don't see as either revenue opportunity nor a risk?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • I don't see it as a risk.

  • I do see it as a revenue upside.

  • If additional to LMR.

  • It's really outside of LMR.

  • The fatter the pipe and the faster the speed, I think those are positive conditions for what we sell in command center software and video security.

  • So as the pipe gets fatter, as that cellular network gets built out, as 4G over several years migrates to 5G, it has no impact that we could see on LMR, and upside to what we see on the other 2 platforms we're building.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Jim Suva of Citi.

  • Joshua Michael Kehoe - Senior Associate

  • This is Josh Kehoe on behalf of Jim Suva.

  • Could you give us any more color on how you're sizing up the potential opportunity for Avigilon from the National Defense Authorization Act?

  • Geographically, where do you expect to see the most benefit, and then how you're thinking of the potential ramp in revenues there?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Well, I would say, first of all, just to dimensionalize Avigilon, solid double-digit growth in Q2.

  • Number two, still expect about 15% revenue growth this year, which we think is 3x the market.

  • Love the state and local government wins in Q2.

  • Both the Cleveland area and Broward County are new and material as it relates to Avigilon.

  • And safe schools on the enterprise and education front is white hot for the reasons that we all know.

  • Safer schools, securing the perimeter, protecting the schoolchildren, having the necessary lockdown.

  • And doing the kinds of things around perimeter security, video surveillance, anomaly detection, motion detection and having those alerts without human intervention feed into appropriately enforcement officials in a 911 center automatically and then also signal alerts to the land mobile radio to the principal or security person or guidance counselor are critical.

  • That use case is widespread, getting traction and significant.

  • So I love what Molloy has done by the way.

  • He and his team have made investments on the product side.

  • I think you'll see some new cameras roll out in the second half of the year.

  • We've significantly increased go-to-market, which is part of the reason that informs our confidence on our ability to perform the way we describe in this critical area.

  • And all this is really without any contribution, to your point, Josh, from the NDAA yet.

  • The sales cycle in Fed are longer.

  • We don't -- the conversations are great.

  • We're having active dialogue.

  • As you've probably seen and understand, the procurement prohibition of Chinese video providers takes effect in 13 days, and our customers are struggling to identify and replace our Fed customers given the resources that they have.

  • We are helping them where we can, but we expect that to get traction more in 2020 than this year.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Vijay Bhagavath of Deutsche Bank.

  • Brian Yun - Data Networking Analyst

  • This is actually Brian Yun from Deutsche.

  • So I also had a question on the Avigilon business.

  • So on the product refresh opportunity from the National Defense Act, what we've been seeing and kind of hearing is sales confusion, kind of customer confusion on whether it's just limiting new Chinese equipment purchases or if the requirement is to sort of rip out existing systems.

  • Since you guys are super close to the conversation there, can you kind of expand on what you're seeing what your view is.

  • Do they have to rip out the existing equipment?

  • In both cases, Avigilon kind of comes out as a clear winner, but it'd be interesting to get your view.

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Brian, there's 2 dimensions to the National Defense Authorization Act in terms of the federal ban.

  • One is, August 13 is a procurement ban.

  • So as of the 13th of this month, no federal agency can procure new video security equipment from Hikvision or Dahua.

  • In a year from this month, in August of next year is the second leg of it, which is a grant prohibition, which is to say that no federal funds can be used for the procurement of Chinese video security, mainly those 2 companies named.

  • So grant money that might be created at the Fed level that could flow through to a state and local or community, cannot be used as of August of next year.

  • They don't necessarily have to rip out the video cameras that they have today.

  • So there's a procurement ban of August of this year.

  • There's a grant band -- ban rather.

  • They can't use grant money in August of 2020.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Ben Bollin of Cleveland Research.

  • Benjamin James Bollin - Senior Research Analyst

  • I wanted to touch on 2 items if I could.

  • First is can you talk a little bit more about where public sector customers are deriving the funds and budget dollars across the 3 major segments?

  • LMR, I think we're pretty familiar with.

  • But when you look at surveillance and command center opportunities for those future wins, where does that money come from?

  • And then a second kind of follow-on.

  • As you've levered yourself into more of these longer-tail public safety asset, how does that influence your ability to compete in deals?

  • Do you feel like you're getting more pricing power because there's no like-for-like competition?

  • What are you seeing on that front?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • On the first one, I would just say that U.S. state and local budgets are healthier, generally.

  • Obviously, some states vary, as you know.

  • But I think that tax revenues and overall fiscal conditions, from a budget standpoint, are -- we see healthier than they have been in several years.

  • They source different revenues from different points . Some have, obviously, 911 taxes that are used to fund the procurement of command center software and other kinds of things like that.

  • But the other thing that makes us affordable in the envelope of these budgets is that we're selling these long-term multiyear contracts.

  • As an example, Gino, in his commentary, talked about the state of Tennessee, which goes through 2028.

  • So given -- depending upon the way the customer wants to buy, it could be OpEx, it could be CapEx, and depending upon the length of time that they want to pay for it, we have the flexibility to meet them in a way that's conducive for them to buy that fits the affordability envelope of their individual fiscal situation.

  • And the Fed, I would say, has been beneficial given the fact that there is budget clarity and certainty.

  • So specifically for us, as it relates to that budget, we saw more revenue and deals flow in the first half than the second half because of the budget certainty and the clarity that the Trump administration, and obviously, Congress has provided.

  • So I think from a federal budget standpoint, today, that situation is more favorable than it has been in the past as well.

  • Benjamin James Bollin - Senior Research Analyst

  • And on the competitive landscape, as you get into more of the areas, surveillance and the broader command center envelope, how does that influence your competitive position in deals?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • I think it's advantaged it, generally speaking.

  • In land mobile radio, I think it's remained the same.

  • But in command center software, as we've acquired more assets and can compete on 911 call handling, can compete on Tier 1, Tier 2 or Tier 3 CAD, can compete on records management or evidentiary management, and then more importantly, which is in part what led to the operating margin expansion, in Q2, to put these assets together and platform them.

  • So if a customer wants to buy a point product for one of those areas, we can sell it.

  • If they want the economies of scale of "speed suite ", which is 2 or more of those, obviously, that's an advantage that we have given the scale that we provide, the integration we're building, the cloud-enabling set of architectures that we're putting around command center software, where a customer can be on-prem or hybrid cloud or in the public cloud and we'll meet them where they want to be met on a common architecture, it's a competitive advantage.

  • On the video security side, we've got fixed video.

  • We now have in-car video.

  • We have body-worn video.

  • And we'll do everything we can from an end-to-end standpoint to package and differentiate and sell it as a compelling value proposition, because I think bigger and more integrated is a competitive advantage for us over time.

  • Benjamin James Bollin - Senior Research Analyst

  • Appreciate it.

  • Please give Jack our best.

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Will do.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Sami Badri of Credit Suisse.

  • Ahmed Sami Badri;Credit Suisse;Senior Equity Analyst^ The first question I had for you was on WatchGuard and how you think about the market that WatchGuard is in and the various competitors, the market growth rate.

  • And then what you think you'll be able to grow a business like WatchGuard now that it is within Motorola?

  • And I have a follow-up.

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • I think that one of the things we like about WatchGuard is it's the in-car camera market leader.

  • I think it's -- we don't give individual product or segment guidance per se, but I think it's reasonable to say that WatchGuard could grow at a double-digit profile given the interest in video, given the way I think customers will buy in the future in combination by buying in-car and body-worn together.

  • They'll do some of those purchases more together.

  • And the overall TAM for video is several billion dollars, all-in in video.

  • And as we've said, Avigilon is $12 billion to $13 billion without China.

  • And then you add incrementally body-worn video and in-car camera to that TAM total and look at that profile, and we believe, in general, we can grow that double digits.

  • Ahmed Sami Badri;Credit Suisse;Senior Equity Analyst^ Got it.

  • And then regarding my follow-up question, it actually has to do with the operating margins in Services and Software.

  • Now you've clearly shown and demonstrated there has been expansion.

  • Would you say up to this point that you're achieving Services and Software operating margin expansion faster than expected?

  • And do you think that, that could be the case over the next couple of years as well, that you would achieve a higher profile faster given the way your business is tuning up?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • I think it was achieved in the first half more than we thought than it would be for the full year.

  • So remember, the operating margin target for that segment was 30%.

  • We've inched it up to 30% to 31%.

  • I think you can't necessarily focus on 1 quarter from a linearity perspective.

  • But make no mistake, I'm pleased with the performance of that segment.

  • Reflected in the increased color of going from 30% to 30% to 31%.

  • I think Kelly and his team are making meaningful changes that will be foundational, that will enable us to continue to grow it over time.

  • Too early to forecast, obviously, anything for next year.

  • But would we and would I expect it to grow?

  • Yes, we would, and I would.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) And our next question will come from Paul Silverstein of Cowen.

  • Paul Jonas Silverstein - MD and Senior Research Analyst

  • Greg and Gino, I apologize to you and to others if you have already been asked and answered this question.

  • I've been hopping around some calls today, so I do apologize.

  • But on the video piece, with Avigilon and a number of other acquisitions form a part, if I'm not mistaken, it looks like Hikvision, Dahua between the 2, they do about $1.5 billion of revenue or did $1.5 billion of revenue in their respective fiscal '18 collectively outside of China.

  • I don't how much of that was in the U.S. But if we return back to that opportunity in terms of those 2 competitors.

  • In particular, the #1 and 3 in the market being gated, is there a way to quantify -- I assume the opportunity for you is entirely in the U.S. in terms of the incremental, that there's not an impact outside of the U.S. with respect to being gated.

  • How much revenue -- any sense for how much revenue there is that you could pick up from their particular situation?

  • Gregory Q. Brown - Chairman & CEO

  • Well, I think, Paul, it's reflected in the performance and the guidance we've given, i.e., the market.

  • So take China out.

  • The market without China is growing about 5% or 5.5%, and our expectations are 15%.

  • So by definition, we've set in place a plan and a strategy around investment, product, refresh, refresh cameras, going down market on certain cameras.

  • And then as well as channel synergy and go-to-market investment that is we believe could have a yield of 3x.

  • Now we talked about this a little bit before, Paul.

  • But that's okay, just to quickly dimensionalize it.

  • The performance we have and we expect to have with Avigilon is really without any anticipated significant contribution from Fed and the National Defense Authorization Act both on procurement and grant restrictions.

  • We don't see that having any effect at this point in time for this year.

  • So if we can grow about 3x the market without China, investing in refreshing the camera portfolio and tiering it more broadly, bringing on more effective channels, significantly adding go-to-market.

  • And by the way, it's more than U.S. and North America.

  • We think it's also EMEA as well.

  • This market's a $12 billion to $13 billion market, without China, that's growing nicely.

  • So we are optimistic about what we can do here.

  • And it's one of the areas -- again, we're about building platforms.

  • It's not just video, it's the edge device, it's the storage, it's the management, it's the analytics, it's the machine learning and the AI that take all of that end-to-end experience and provide use cases around specific verticals to differentiate.

  • This is a hot market.

  • I think Molloy has done a good job.

  • We have a lot more work to do, but that's the perspective.

  • Paul Jonas Silverstein - MD and Senior Research Analyst

  • Greg, if I could ask you a quick follow-up.

  • To your point about platforms, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was just a quarter ago, maybe 2 quarters ago when you had completed or at least had integrated the Avigilon and perhaps some of the other video capabilities into command and control software-based platform.

  • Did you address or could you address what the early indications are in terms of take-up by those 6,000 command-and-control centers throughout the U.S.?

  • Kelly S. Mark - EVP of Services & Software

  • Paul, it's Kelly.

  • So I'll touch on that.

  • When I spoke to that before, it was really in regards to as we bring these platforms together, we make sure that the interlinkages between the various components, LMR, video security and command center software, all exist.

  • So in the case of Avigilon or in the recent acquisition of VaaS, those video streams or that data plugs straight into the command center.

  • So for a customer, for example, that has our Aware product, they can have the visibility to the video and/or the VaaS data right on that screen.

  • So it helps just facilitate the inter-linkages of those platforms.

  • Not something I would direct you towards to measure in regards to that penetration to those command centers because they'll also be gated a bit by who uses our Aware platform as well.

  • Paul Jonas Silverstein - MD and Senior Research Analyst

  • How broadly is Aware used?

  • Kelly S. Mark - EVP of Services & Software

  • Aware is one of our earlier products and growing pretty rapidly.

  • We don't get into how many PSAPs directly use it yet, but that's something that we'll be updating you on in the future.

  • So -- but it's one of our newer products and it's growing relatively quickly because of its ability to integrate and provide, as we say, on a single pane of glass, a situation from TAD to mapping to assets to VaaS and video and other components.

  • It's a very integrated view to help our customers manage their resources during an emergency.

  • Operator

  • This concludes our question-and-answer session.

  • I will turn the floor back over to Mr. Tim Yocum, Vice President of Investor Relations, for any additional or closing remarks.

  • Tim Yocum;Vice President of Investor Relations^ That concludes the call, and appreciate you joining today.

  • Thank you.

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