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Good afternoon. My name is Millicent, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the ManTech First Quarter 2008 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS.) Thank you.

Mr. Cormier, you may begin the conference.

Thank you and welcome to ManTech International Corporation's First Quarter 2008 Earnings Conference Call. And again, we thank you for joining us today. I'm Joe Cormier, Vice President of Corporate Development, and leading today's call from ManTech is George Pedersen, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Bob Coleman, President and Chief Operating Officer; and Kevin Phillips, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

In our prepared remarks, George will discuss our strategic positioning and outlook for ManTech. Bob will touch on our operational highlights, and Kevin will review our first quarter financial performance and guidance for the second quarter and full year of 2008.

Before we begin our discussion, it's important we remind you that on this call we will make statements that do not address historical facts and thus are forward-looking statements made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Security Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are subject to factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from anticipated results, and include the risks and uncertainties identified in our earnings press release under the caption, "Forward-looking Information." For a full discussion of these factors and other risks and uncertainties, please refer to the section entitled "Risk Factors" in ManTech's annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC on March 17, 2008, and in ManTech's other public filings. Also, we undertake no obligation to update any of the forward-looking statements made on this call.

Now I'd like to turn the call over to George Pedersen. George?

Good afternoon, and thank you for participating in today's call. We are pleased to discuss our first quarter 2008 financial results. As you will see from our press release, our first quarter operating performance was strong on all fronts--44% revenue growth, 62% operating income growth, 51% net income growth, and 46% EPS growth over last year's first quarter results. Operating margin was 8.1%, up from 7.3% in the first quarter of 2007.

Our increased forward guidance implies continued operating momentum for 2008, consistent with our historical performance, and is based on the robust demand we see for our mission-focused services. To augment our organic revenue growth, we will continue to pursue strategic acquisitions to enhance our mission capabilities, strengthen our market position, and increase our revenue and earnings growth. We have the financial capacity to execute this plan.

As you are well aware, the Congress is considering a major supplemental funding appropriation for the Department of Defense. Recent information indicates that the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee is preparing an FY '08 supplemental in the amount of $108 billion. And it has also decided to include supplemental funding of $70.9 billion for '09 in the same appropriation bill. The primary focus of this funding are the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, but other requirements will also be included.

As it relates to the FY '09 DoD appropriation, it is our belief that the '09 requirements will be funded with a continuing resolution or some other funding machination, at least until a new administration and new President comes into office.

As we have indicated on many occasions, ManTech's programs are sent to receive priority funding and are likely to be the last to face funding cuts, if necessary, because of the focus on our mission.

We are optimistic that the Congress and the President will resolve these appropriation bills during the month of May. Our most recent information indicates the supplemental will go directly to the floor next Thursday or Friday--both supplementals will go to the floor next Thursday or Friday.

We look forward to continued growth in our business throughout 2008, and we look to continue executing in support of our nation, our customers, our employees, and you, our shareholders.

With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Bob Coleman. Bob?

Thank you, George. Overall, we are pleased with the first quarter results. Revenue growth continues to be strong as a result of our 2007 and 2008 year-to-date bookings, and our increased direct labor growth and priority funding position on many of our national security contracts continues to drive our margin improvement.

Our investments in business development are also bearing fruit, as bookings topped $767 million in Q1. We are all very pleased with these results, and they reflect continued demand for our mission-critical solutions and services, along with our market position in the high-end intelligence and defense sector.

Bookings were the highlight of the quarter, coming in at $767 million and driving a book-to-bill ratio of 1.8 times. Of those awards, over 35% were from new business or expansion of existing contracts, such as our $83 million Naval Warfare Analysis Program, a $70 million add-on to an existing classified program, and a $27 million win supporting a new classified customer. The rest of the awards continue to protect and build our business base with large repeat awards, such as the one-year bridge contract for $268 million on our Countermine program.

Our qualified pipeline currently stands at approximately $11 billion, up from $10 billion at the end of 2007, and we're tracking 27 opportunities in our markets that are over $100 million.

Our momentum for the first quarter has continued into the second quarter, as we have already booked over $200 million in classified contracts in April. These awards are distributed across many of our capabilities and are consistent with the strategy we have set for the Company.

One of our key objectives is to support the President's comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative, which is critical to support our national and economic security interests. This initiative includes well over $10 billion of new funding over the next several years going to several agencies to meet our country's cybersecurity challenges. I'm pleased to announce that in April, ManTech received several strategic cybersecurity contracts. These awards validate our status as a market leader in cybersecurity solutions and position us for significant growth in years to come.

Also in April, we submitted our sole-source bid for our Countermine program and expect an award of a new contract during the second quarter. Again, the new contract will have a two-year period of performance, taking us into 2010.

As I mentioned, our operating margins improved significantly over last year's first quarter, up over 80 basis points, in fact. Several factors contributed to this improvement, such as our focus on improving contract profitability, labor utilization, and control of overall costs in the business.

The most important factor, however, is the increase in our direct labor base, of which you will recall is up over 600 net adds in 2007. Through April, we have added over 170 employees, which has us on track to meet our hiring goals for the year. We continue to have over 700 open requisitions, which demonstrate the strong demand for our services and the strength of our markets.

Going forward, we maintain our focus in mission-critical markets, yet remain diversified across the intelligence and DoD community. We are extremely well positioned for continued long-term growth in revenue and earnings. As a result, we have increased our 2008 revenue guidance to $1.735 billion to $1.8 billion, and we are now forecasting an operating margin of 8.2% to 8.25%. This represents 20% to 24% revenue growth off our 2007 base and then expansion of our 2007 margins. Kevin will fill you in on the details.

In closing, we are excited about our growth prospects for the rest of 2008 and going forward as we continue to leverage our market position to build ManTech into the premier mid-tier national security company.

At this point, I would like to turn the call over to Kevin. Kevin?

Thank you, Bob. As you saw in the release, first quarter revenues of over $425 million represents 44% total revenue growth, with 19% coming organically for the first quarter compared to last year's first quarter revenues of $294 million. Our core markets continue to be strong. We continue to be well positioned in all components of our DoD and intelligence community customer base.

Countermine generated $61 million in revenue in the first quarter, consistent with our expectations of at least $240 million in 2008. The contract revenue mix remained relatively unchanged during the quarter--98% of our revenue came from federal government sources, while defense, intelligence, Homeland Security and law enforcement-related business comprised 92%. The proportion of revenues in the quarter coming from contracts billed on a time-and-material basis was 64% of revenue, fixed-price was 14%, and cost-plus was 22%.

As of March 31, total backlog was $3.44 billion, and funded backlog grew 24% over last year to $949 million at the end of the first quarter. This continued strength in funded backlog demonstrates ManTech's positioning in the center of the nation's mission-critical security operations.

Our operating profit was $34.6 million in the first quarter, which yielded a margin of 8.1% and was up significantly from 7.3% in last year's first quarter. This margin was consistent with our expectations for the first quarter and reflects the continued focus in the areas of the business operations, which Bob highlighted in his remarks.

In the first quarter, Countermine contributed approximately $2.1 million of operating profit while delivering 3.5% margin. The rest of ManTech's core services business delivered approximately 9% operating margin. Based on the expanded operating margin, our first quarter net income was $19.9 million, up 51%. Our effective tax rate for the quarter increased to 39.6%, up from 39%. Our performance translated into diluted earnings per share of $0.57, up 46% over last year's first quarter.

Turning to the balance sheet and cash flows, as of March 31, the Company had $10 million of cash and $148 million of debt. Our receivable day sales outstanding at the end of March stood at 74 days. During the quarter, we generated over $15 million in operating cash flows for over 75% conversion to net income. This comes despite the normal payments in the first quarter related to bonuses and other payroll distributions, as well as over $10 million in payment delays from one of our customers. We expect strong cash flows from operations during the remainder of 2008, which will total over $100 million for the year.

Focusing now on the guidance in our press release, we have provided our second quarter 2008 guidance and increased our full year 2008 guidance. Our second quarter 2008 revenue guidance of $435 million to $450 million represents 25% to 29% total growth over last year's second quarter, with 12% to 16% coming organically. They're forecasting an operating margin between 8.2% and 8.3%. Our net income range of $20.8 million to $21.8 million results in earnings per share guidance of $0.59 to $0.62 per share on weighted average shares of 35.2 million. This represents 34% to 41% growth over last year's second quarter earnings per share.

This guidance assumes interest expense of $1.25 million in the second quarter and a 39.6% effective tax rate.

Our full year 2008 guidance, which does not include any future acquisitions or divestitures, of between $1.735 billion and $1.8 billion, represents 20% to 24% revenue growth from our 2007 full year results. This guidance implies organic growth of 10% to 14% in 2008. Based on the improvement in operating margins we delivered in the second half of 2007 and our continued headcount growth in openings, we are forecasting an operating margin of between 8.2% and 8.25% for the full year 2008, which is up from the 2007 operating margin of 7.85%. We estimate our 2008 net income to be $83.4 million to $87.2 million, which results in earnings per share guidance of $2.37 to $2.47 per share based on weighted average shares of 35.25 million. This earnings per share range represents 22% to 27% growth over the 2007 results of $1.95. Our guidance assumes an overall interest expense of $4.2 million and a 39.6% effective tax rate.

In closing, we are excited about the prospects for our business as well, and we are operationally well positioned for continued growth in revenues and profits supported by our strong balance sheet and cash flows.

And now we would be happy to take calls.

Thank you. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS.) Our first question will come from Michael Lewis with BB&T Capital Markets.

Hey, very nice quarter again.

Thank you.

Okay. If I could just--if you could just clarify one thing for me. Did you say free cash flow or operating cash flow around $100 million?

Operating cash flow in excess of $100 million.

Okay. Okay. And can you just--you said there was a $10 million payment delay from one of your customers? Did you recoup that yet, or do you anticipate recouping that in this quarter?

Yes, it's been approved to pay. Some of our customers, and I think you know this industry are working through changes in systems as well as processes to improve workflow, and this is one of those times where we had a delay, but it's been taken care of.

Okay. And George, you've now picked up SRS and McDonald Bradley, that integration's going forward. Now, what does the M&A outlook, how does that look now going forward? Are you actively looking at new companies out there?

Yes, we are, because we have, we mainly have our line of credit about $260 million. That gives us a lot of opportunity to pursue them. We have, at the present time, about three viable candidates that are under review. As you know, we will not know until we go through extensive due diligence, but the market is rich with opportunities.

Okay. And then just one final question for you, Bob. You talked about the cybersecurity initiative. I was just wondering, with regard to the contracts that you did win, can you give us some specific services that ManTech's going to be providing to the customers, just so we can kind of understand these areas a little bit better?

Yes, Mike. I would love to do that. Unfortunately, now that the contracts are awarded, as you know, they've become classified, and we're not allowed to discuss the types of services we're providing nor the association with the customer.

Okay.

I apologize, but I really can't get into anything regarding that, just that it is cyber work.

Okay. So with regards to that $200 million that you won in the first, since the beginning of April, what percentage of that was new wins versus recompete wins?

Say, a little, almost three-quarters to the full amount was in new business wins.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Not all of it in the cyber sector, though.

Of course.

But a good chunk of it.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Our next question will come from Joseph Vafi with Jefferies and Company.

Guys, good afternoon, Great quarter here.

Hey, Joe. Thanks.

Let's see, where should we start? Maybe, Kevin, as you kind of looked at your Q2 guidance numbers, they were coming off some really, really big new contract award wins in '07 and here in '08. Good momentum here in Q1 in organic revenue, and I know your guidance here is down a little bit for Q2 organic revenue growth versus what we saw in Q1. Anything in particular going on there we should be aware of?

This is Kevin. No, I think most of that, in terms of total organic growth, is just a function of the comp. We acquired SRS in May of last year, that the total revenue growth is still strong and it's over 24% when you include all revenues. So no specific item driving down that percentage.

Okay. And I think you mentioned how large Countermine was in the quarter. I think I missed it.

$61 million.

Okay. And has there been any change here as we get here into 2008 on kind of composition of revenue here in the first quarter versus, say, the last two quarters, and direct labor versus pass-through versus anything else in that $61 million?

Generally, if we compare against Q4, our direct labor-driven revenues increased by over $10 million, yet our ODC and subcontractor-driven revenues decreased. Now the fluctuations in the ODC, as again, as we've said before, is very hard to determine because it's mission-driven, but the headcount growth we've seen in the second half of last year, as well as the first of the month's (inaudible) has given up, the direct labor composition of our (inaudible).

Okay. And would you expect that mix to stay where it was in Q1, or do you think it might flip-flop back over to more ODCs?

I believe that it will stay at about that level based on the opportunity and the openings that we have and the positions we're filling.

Okay, great. And then maybe just one other final question here on the overall outlook in the labor market right now. I mean, obviously, you're winning a ton of business, and I'm just trying to figure out what the staffing requirements might be as you kind of look at all these new contracts that are coming online?

Joe, this is Bob. We're targeting about 500 net adds for the year is our plan. Staffing has been strong, as you can see. We've added 170 through April, and I would say that we have made a lot of improvements in the recruiting processes, and I think we're seeing the benefits of that, so there's been an intense focus on that. We've viewed this as a production problem, and I think that's helped us quite a bit.

Okay. Is the weakening economy at all helping you in the hiring area at this point?

No, not at all.

Okay, great. Thanks so much, guys.

Thanks.

And our next question will come from Tim Quillin with Stephens Inc.

Hey, good afternoon. Nice quarter.

Thanks, Tim.

On the Countermine contract, I think your most recent expectations for revenue for 2008, unless you changed them and I missed it in the call, was $240 million. And the contract extension is obviously significantly higher than that. Have you revised up the expectations?

Tim, it's Kevin. The $240 million is what we build into the low end of our guidance range, and that's remaining consistent. What we've done is increased for the full year the range of revenues to reflect the potential for more variability on the ODCs as well as some of the labor requirements.

Okay. So should we look at it as kind of $240 million to $270 million, then?

That's reasonable.

Okay. And then in terms of the new two-year contract, what's the size of that contract, and does that include new activities as well?

Tim, this is Bob. We obviously do not have that award in hand yet. We submitted that bid a few weeks, and we expect that to be in Q2. As you know, we're forecasting $240 million in revenue from Countermine this year, and we expect the new award to sustain that level over the next two years.

In terms of the increases or the changes in the requirements, again, it's continuing to support the different variations of vehicles coming in theater, the Class I, II, and III MRAPs and the route-clearing vehicles. And we've added, I think, another location to it.

Okay. Good. And Kevin, can you break out also the revenues from RSC and JERRV? And are those margins consistent with the 3.5% at Countermine?

The JERRV revenue for the quarter was slightly over $14 million, and the RSC revenue was about $31 million, and the margins on both of those are higher. RSC is not too much higher, but they're both higher because they have a little bit higher labor component.

Great. Okay. Thanks, gentlemen.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Ed Caso with Wachovia.

Great. Thanks. Just a couple of quick ones here. Your voluntary turnover in the quarter was what?

20%.

Still about 20?

Yes, it's about what we're averaging.

Of the terrific bookings number you had this quarter, how much of that was new business?

I think about 35% was new business wins and contract add-on.

35%. Okay. And anything, in the fourth quarter you had a software gain. Was there anything special in the current quarter?

No, nothing like that in the current quarter.

And just, maybe you could frame for me your sensitivity to sort of Iraq in general. It looks like it would be this commitment to Afghanistan from both sides of the aisle, but if the administration does change stripes, well, there will be some pace of withdrawal, and I'm just curious how directly associated you are with either Iraq or with the war supplemental. Can you give me just some framework?

Sure. Yes. In terms of DL, we have about 500 people in theater in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think from ManTech's perspective, we do a lot of the infrastructure work, so that's always the first thing to be put in and, of course, the last thing to come out in the event of a withdrawal. But also now we're supporting the Support Protection Mission, if you will, through the MRAPS and the Countermine program. So that will also be one of the last things to come out of the area.

But I think what you need to pay attention to also is the fact that we are over there positions us for opportunities that we would not see otherwise, such as some NATO bids that we're going after and we have submitted and then, of course, I might have mentioned on the last call, a C4 ISR system that's going in over there that's a well funded program that will go on for a few years, and we feel well positioned to receive that award as well.

I don't think anybody has yet fashioned a plan to withdraw in the Iraq issue. I think that will come in the next administration. I think from the positive point of view, is that Congress is moving forward with the two appropriation supplementals that I just talked about, including an '09 advance of $70 billion, which I've never seen before. So whatever changes are going to come--and they will come, obviously--it's down the road a piece.

So George, your expectation is by Memorial Day to get it all done?

They are saying that by Memorial Day, those two supplementals will be completed indeed. They're hoping to have it done by next Thursday or Friday.

Thank you.

Oh, by the way, that's within the House and Senate. Then it has to go to the President, obviously. I'm not saying it's going to be signed by next Thursday or Friday, but the actions in the Congress is expected to be completed by then.

George, how much do you think they're going to hang on that sort of WIC kind of stuff or other domestic initiatives that might keep the President from signing?

I can't answer that. There's a lot of discussions on both sides of the aisle, and some of the expectations are probably beyond what the President might accept. But I don't think that you can see a clear answer to that. The process is changing this year. They're going directly to the House floor, so I think, I have to tell you I cannot forecast it for you at this point.

Great. Thank you.

And we go now to Mark Jordan with Noble Financial.

Good afternoon, gentlemen. I was wondering if you could tell us, you had mentioned that you had 500 people in theater in Iraq and Afghanistan. What is the number of employees you have in other international posts in addition to that 500?

We're in probably total around 700 total deployed overseas in all foreign areas.

We're in 40 countries, as we've told you before. I don't know that number. Bob, is that approximately correct? 700?

Yes, no, 700's right. Yes. Yes.

Okay. A couple more on the Countermine RFP. Do you know what level of competition you face, number one? Two, is there any change in pricing or opportunity to get a better yield out of this vehicle when it has been renewed? And finally, when awarded, will it immediately supersede the bridge, or will it be tacked onto the end of that authorization?

Mark, with regard to the bid, we don't anticipate any material change in the margins on the new Countermine program. And obviously, we don't have that thing in hand. And once we do, we'll be able to lay it out and assess, really, what's going on. And if there's anything of impact, obviously, we'll let you know. I think we would expect some increases in DL on there going forward, and I'm going to give Kevin the opportunity to comment as well.

Yes, Mark, I would just note that it's sole source, so competition is limited to the best of our knowledge. But having said that, there are a lot of requirements that the government may have. It's very hard for us to know when they will happen, how they will happen, and as Bob said, there's the potential for increased labor. It totally depends on the missions and the timing of those missions in the future.

And the only thing I would add. You asked about superseding the other contract. I think, obviously, there's requirements that are flowing on the existing contract that will take some time as they ramp up the new contract. So you'll probably see full ramp-up--what would you say, Kevin? By Q4 on the new contract?

Potentially.

Potentially.

All right. There is the potential for our JERRV program to roll into this as well, we think.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And our next question comes from Greg Wowkun with Banc of America.

Thanks. Good afternoon. George, you highlighted that you were looking at three additional acquisitions. Which strategic areas should we be thinking about?

We are staying in the lane that we carved out five years ago, the high-end defense, high-end intel. You've heard the words many times before, where there's a very significant mission, and particularly those areas with the very highest security clearances.

And just to follow up on MBI in terms of tracking in line or ahead of your expectations?

They're doing very, very well, both of them--SRS and MBI are doing very, very well. MBI is very early in the process, but we're very pleased with both of them.

Right. MBI, some of those contract awards were late in Q4, and they're currently ramping up on those programs right now, but we are confident they'll meet their forecast for the year.

Excellent.

We go now to Gautam Khanna with Cowen.

Hey. Could you update us on your major recompetes this year?

Well, now that Countermine's out of the way, it's very low risk of recompetes for the remainder of the year. I think it's less than 5%. We have, I think, GDDM hanging out there. We just had our orals yesterday. We feel very well positioned. This is a different part of the State Department than some of our other work, and we also had one of our major competitors become a teammate, which I think reflects the strength of our success in that area.

Okay. And is there any update on the NASA protest?

The decision has been made to--the protest decision went against us. And the current negotiation with the government is we will transition the contract to another firm on May 14. We are examining additional legal options on this situation, because we are in total disagreement with the decision.

Okay. Also, on the Countermine, I know you haven't formally received the new award, but some of the language in that solicitation calls for transitioning. Some of the work you're doing to organic, to the Army itself over time, how does that, what's the latest thinking there? I mean, is there a chance that we'll see a ramp-down as soon as you get this contract? If you could just talk, walk us through that?

As you know, these vehicles aren't programs of record in the Army, and the only logistics support for them system that we, we use a proprietary software called Logmaster that we've developed. And using that software, we've been able to maintain about a 90% availability in theater, which I think is outstanding considering the fact that there's other companies out there doing this work that aren't as successful. There's over 6,000 parts associated with these vehicles, and I think until you've sat down and looked at this closely and realized the magnitude of the transition, that it's far more complicated than most (inaudible). So we know that maybe they want to go that way, but we think it will be a while before they actually can put something in place for that.

They also have a lot of focus on supporting other MRAPS that are coming into theater as well, provided by the OEMs and getting that logistics and supply chain going. And the fact that they have to solve that issue, and our systems are working at 90% availability, may delay the conversion.

Okay. And lastly, just looking at the revenue from Q4 to Q1, I think it was up 1% or so, and obviously Countermine was the source of the variance on the downside. But we have a loop here. Were there fewer, was there anything that went away? I just thought it was going to be a little bit bigger, and you're at the bottom of your guidance. Was there anything you were counting on that slipped to the right?

Gautam, it's Kevin. The answer is no. It's just the timing of ODCs, and they're on contracts that were other than Countermine as well that impacted that. As I said before, our labor-driven revenues have increased, and they're in line with what we expected, and a lot of this is just the timing of when ODC requirements on many contracts occur.

Okay. Thanks a lot, guys. Appreciate it.

Thank you.

(OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS.) Our next question will come from Bill Loomis with Stifel Nicolaus.

Hi. Thanks. Good quarter.

Thank you.

Looking at the RLS contract, it's shown good sequential growth since you've gotten the re-award on that. Where is that? Which area is that growing? Is that Korea or the Middle East, or which area is showing the biggest growth rate?

It's Kevin. I believe most of the growth is in the U.S. in CONUS. But I can't give you a split-out as to where within CONUS that's happening. I don't know.

Okay.

Most of the centers are U.S.-based.

Okay. And then you had in the contract this quarter, it looks it got back to where it was back in '05 before it started to drop off into the recompete. Do you see it continuing to grow at this sequential pace, or is it near where you're going to, where the level we can expect?

I have expected it (inaudible) built-in about $110 million minimum, and it's running, obviously, slightly higher than that. So I think it's going to level off at this, but again, based on mission requirements, it's hard to tell.

Okay. And Countermine, the margins there have been the highest it's been in a couple of years, and I assume that's because of the higher direct labor content, so if the revenues do start tracking up to $70 million or so, we can expect margins more in line with what they were last year on Countermine?

There is more labor requirement as more systems are fielded, and that is partly your driving--that is driving the increased margin.

Okay. So when you say your $240 million to $270 million range, you're assuming, generally speaking, that that's going to be a little bit lower margin than what we saw in the first quarter because it's going to have more ODCs, or not?

Slightly less, yes.

Okay.

And I say that because we also may have more systems to support as well, which would be a labor-driven increase, but it won't be ratable.

Okay. And then when you talk about your Cyber Command wins, cyber wins, the $10 billion, are you talking about specifically being contracted out of that Air Force Cyber Command, or is that more generic language on the cyber work that you're seeing?

No, it's more generic language. That's doesn't, yes, we're not talking specifically about Cyber Command. We're talking about the National Cyber Initiative, which touches a lot of different agencies, and it's, like I said, the funding we expect to be upwards of $10 billion. But between $10 billion and $20 billion. The specific cyber award was SWIRLPOP that we won.

Okay. Okay. Thank you.

That would conclude our question-and-answer session. At this time I'd like to turn the program back to our speakers for any additional or closing comments.

We have none.

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