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Operator
Good afternoon. My name is Jessica, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Manhattan Associates' first quarter 2011 earnings conference call.
(Operator Instructions).
As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this call is being recorded today, April 19, 2011. I would now like to introduce Dennis Story of Manhattan Associates. Mr. Story, you may begin your conference.
- CFO
Thank you, Jessica, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Manhattan Associates' 2011 first quarter earnings call. I will review our cautionary language, and then turn the call over to Pete Sinisgalli, our CEO. During this call, including the question and answer session, we may make forward-looking statements regarding future events, or future financial performance of Manhattan Associates. You are cautioned that these forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, are not guarantees of future performance, and that actual results may differ materially from those in our forward-looking statements. I refer you to the reports Manhattan Associates files with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in our projections, particularly our annual report on Form 10-K for fiscal 2010, and the risk factor discussion in that report. We are under no obligation to update these statements.
In addition, our comments will cover certain non-GAAP financial measures. These measures are not in accordance with, or an alternative for GAAP, and may be different from non-GAAP measures used by other companies. We believe that this presentation of certain non-GAAP measures facilitates investors' understanding of our historical operating trends, with useful insight into our profitability, exclusive of unusual adjustments. Our Form 8-K, filed today with the SEC, and available from our website, manh.com, contains important disclosure about our use of non-GAAP measures. In addition, our earnings release filed with the Form 8-K reconciles our non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures. Now I'll turn the call over to Pete.
- President, CEO
Thanks, Dennis. I'll start the call with an overview of our performance in the first quarter. Dennis will follow with details about our financial results, and I'll return to cover operating activities for the quarter. And then, we'll be happy to answer your questions.
Adjusted earnings per share for the first quarter was $0.41. That's up $0.01 from last year. I'm pleased with our financial results in all areas but one -- license revenue. We posted disappointing license revenue of $7.8 million in the quarter. That miss was offset by solid revenue growth in services, expense management, and an India tax adjustment. Our competitive win rate in the quarter was very strong, at almost 80%.
However, similar to last quarter, not enough large deals closed this quarter. We had only one large deal with recognized revenue greater than $1 million in the quarter. Unfortunately, the same lack of urgency that delayed large deal closings in Q4 of last year is still a factor. We continue to have a very healthy pipeline of large deals, and high confidence that Manhattan will be selected when those deals do close. I'll provide more color about this, following Dennis' review of our financial results. Dennis?
- CFO
Thanks, Pete. As you know, our Q1 earnings were constrained by lower license revenue, while at the same time underpinned by services revenue growth, strong services margins, expense control, and a timely tax benefit. Pete will provide more perspective on our license revenue result and outlook in his comments. But before I jump into the results, let me remind you, we are now reporting adjusted results, excluding restricted stock, and our prior year results have been updated accordingly to reflect this change. Our supplemental schedules included in today's earnings release provide all of the details.
So here's our financial summary for the first quarter. First, Q1 license revenue of $7.8 million decreased from $14.2 million in Q1 2010, and declined sequentially from $12.7 million in Q4 2010. Secondly, Q1 services revenue increased 5% year-over-year, as demand continues to be strong. This 5% growth rate is artificially low, due to previously deferred services revenue included in the Q1 2010 results. Apples to apples, our consulting revenue is up 11% year-over-year. And, in addition, our services backlog is quite healthy. Three, margins are strong. In a tough license quarter, we achieved a gross margin of 55.2%, delivering services margins of 56.1%, and a solid operating margin of 14.5%. We remain committed to achieving our year-over-year operating margin expansion objectives. Four, adjusted earnings per share of $0.41 increased 3% over the $0.40 we reported in Q1 2010. And on a GAAP basis, we delivered earnings per share of $0.32, even with the $0.32 delivered in the prior year.
Five, our Q1 adjusted effective tax rate was 14.1% against our plan of 34.5%, due primarily to a change in the tax laws in India; resulting in a tax benefit of approximately $2 million, or $0.09 of EPS benefit in the quarter. Six, operating cash flow remains strong, at $8.1 million for the quarter. And finally, seven, our balance sheet strength continues. Cash and investments totaled $119 million. Our cash to asset ratio is 44%, and we continue to carry no debt. We invested $26 million in common stock buybacks during Q1, and our Board raised our buyback authority to a total of $50 million this month, April 2011. That covers the key summary points.
Now, for the details. Q1 total revenue performance of $71.7 million declined 3% year-over-year, due to the lower-than-planned large license deals in the quarter. Our Americas segment recorded total revenue of $60.2 million in the quarter, a year-over-year decline of 3%, resulting from a drop in license revenue. Internationally, although both [geos] experienced a year-over-year decline in license revenue, EMEA's Q1 2011 total revenue of $8.3 million increased by 4% over Q1 2010, driven by strong services revenue performance; while APAC posted $3.2 million in total revenue, down 22% from 2010, due to low license sales.
For license revenue, in the quarter, Americas recognized $6.8 million, down from $11.1 million in Q1 2010. Activity in the small to midsize deals, which are in the $250,000 to $999,000 range, continue to remain solid, while the current sales cycle for deals greater than $1 million has extended somewhat in recent quarters. EMEA's Q1 license revenue totaled $449,000, posting another weak quarter as the Western European economy continues to experience a sluggish recovery. And finally, our APAC team delivered Q1 license revenue totalling $464,000.
Services revenue of $56.1 million in the quarter increased 5% compared to Q1 2010, and was up 8% sequentially from Q4 2010, due to the Q4 seasonal holiday period. Our consulting services continued to experience solid demand, with revenues of $35.2 million, increasing 4% over Q1 2010. However, when you consider that our Q1 2010 consulting revenue recognized nearly $2 million of previously deferred consulting revenue, or $0.05 of EPS benefit, on an apples to apples basis, we actually delivered double-digit year-over-year growth of 11%.
First quarter maintenance revenue of $20.9 million reflects growth of 7% over Q1 2010, due to continued strong customer retention rates of 90% plus, and solid cash collections in the quarter. Driven by strong demand, we expect Q2 2011 total services revenue to increase about 9% to 11% sequentially over Q1 2011.
Consolidated services margins continue to be strong, as we posted 56.1% in the quarter, up from 55.6% in Q1 2010, due to solid demand; and up sequentially from 52.3% in Q4 2010, as fourth quarter services margins are historically lower due to Q4 seasonal holidays. With solid services demand, we are now estimating our full-year 2011 services margins to be in the 54% to 55% range, an increase of 100 basis points over our previous expectation. Seasonal vacations in the Q4 holiday season caused a full-year expected services margins to be lower than the margin we achieved in Q1 2011.
Moving on to adjusted operating income -- Q1 adjusted operating income totaled $10.4 million, with a solid operating margin of 14.5%. This compares to a 19.3% operating margin in Q1 2010, which was favorably impacted by the nearly $2 million of previously deferred consulting revenue from 2009, and higher license revenue. As mentioned in our February call, starting this quarter we began reporting adjusted earnings in accordance with the prevalent practice in the technology sector, excluding 100% of all equity-based compensation expense. Excluding restricted stock from our adjusted earnings resulted in a 2010 full-year adjusted operating margin of 18%, which is the more accurate comparison against our software peers. At this time, we are still expecting a 100-basis-point improvement over 2010's adjusted operating margin. Obviously, license revenue performance for the balance of the year is essential to achieving our full-year objective.
Moving on to operating expenses -- in line with our expectations discussed in the Q4 2010 call, adjusted operating expenses which include sales and marketing, R&D, G&A, and depreciation, were $29.2 million for Q1 2011, an increase of 5% sequentially from Q4 2010, and essentially flat compared to the $29.3 million spent in Q1 2010. The sequential increase from Q4 2010 was due to annual merit and promotional increases for existing staff, effective January 1, seasonally high FICA expenses, the partial reinstatement of our 401-k match program, and moderate head count additions, partially offset by lower performance-based compensation in the quarter.
Regarding income taxes, our adjusted effective income tax rate for Q1 2011 was 14.1%, against a plan of 34.5%. This was driven by a change in India tax law late in Q1 2011, eliminating the tax holiday for companies under the STPI -- that stands for Software Technology Park of India -- tax plan. The STPI tax plan is analogous to a special enterprise zone established to incent foreign direct investment. This change became effective April 1, 2011, which in turn triggered a $2 million tax benefit from the release of a valuation allowance associated with prepaid India income taxes.
Just a little background on this -- we established operations in Bangalore in 2002 under the STPI tax plan, which was designed as a ten-year tax holiday set to expire in 2012. However, over the past several years, the tax environment in India has become very aggressive. In 2007, India introduced a prepaid minimum alternative tax requirement for STPI participants to generate additional cash tax revenue, which could be carried forward and credited against future income tax liability after the expiration of the STPI tax holiday.
Due to uncertainty about our ability to benefit from this tax carry-forward under US GAAP -- Generally Accepted Accounting Principles -- we were required to establish a valuation allowance against the prepaid asset and recognized income tax expense, which has averaged about $500,000 per annum since 2007. This expense has been included in both our adjusted and GAAP earnings each year, and has been a component of our effective tax rate management.
We will utilize the $2 million tax carry-forward starting in 2011, to offset a portion of the annual statutory income tax liability. And we currently project about a four-year carry-forward cash benefit under current Indian tax laws. This is factored into our revised effective tax rate estimate. Additionally, the US Congress has already approved the extension of the R&D tax credit through 2011; therefore, barring any further tax legislation or unexpected tax-related issues, we expect our effective tax rate for the remaining three quarters of 2011 to be 33.5%, down from our previous estimate of 34.5%, for both adjusted and GAAP results.
Transitioning to diluted shares. For the quarter, diluted shares totaled 22.1 million shares, down from 22.4 million shares in Q4 2010. The decrease was driven by share repurchase activity in the quarter, partially offset by option exercises and the impact of a rising stock price on our common stock equivalents calculation. During the quarter, we repurchased 826,000 shares of Manhattan common stock at an average share price of $31.01, totalling $25.6 million. Option exercises in the quarter totaled 485,000 shares, generating net cash proceeds of $11.5 million.
With significant stock price appreciation since 2009, 2.1 million options have been exercised over the past five quarters. In this period, options outstanding have declined 43%, substantially reducing the Company's equity overhang position. Also during this same period, our share buybacks have totaled 3.5 million shares, mitigating any dilutive impact of option exercises, while generating positive earnings accretion to our shareholders. As mentioned earlier, in April 2011 our Board approved raising our remaining share repurchase authority limit to a total of $50 million.
And for the remainder of 2011, we are estimating full-year and quarterly diluted shares to total about 22.5 million shares. Our estimates do not assume any common stock repurchases, and depend on a number of variables such as stock price, option exercises, forfeitures, and share repurchases, which can significantly impact our estimates. On a GAAP basis, Q1 2011 GAAP-diluted earnings per share of $0.32 was flat with the $0.32 we earned in Q1 2010. A detailed description of GAAP to non-GAAP adjustments can be found in the supplemental schedule, reconciling selected GAAP to non-GAAP measures in our earnings release today.
Moving on to cash flow and balance sheet metrics, for the quarter we delivered cash flow from operations of $8.1 million, down from $13.9 million in 2010. This is primarily driven by the cash payout of higher 2010 annual bonuses in Q1 2011, versus 2009 annual bonus payouts in Q1 of 2010. If you recall, 2009 bonus payouts in Q1 2010 were substantially lower, reflecting our relative business performance. Our accounts receivable balance has decreased $2 million from December of 2010 on strong cash collections in the quarter. Our DSOs continue to be solid at 57 days, compared to Q4 2010 DSO of 61 days. Capital expenditures were $1.3 million in the quarter. And for 2011, we continue to estimate capital expenditures to be about $6 million to $8 million. Our cash and investments at March 31, 2011 totaled $119 million, compared to December 31, 2010 cash of $127 million. The decline was driven by our investment in share buybacks.
Deferred revenue, which primarily consists of maintenance revenue billed in advance of performing the maintenance services, was $52 million at March 31, 2011, compared to $45 million at December 31, 2010. Additionally, we have collected and deferred about $4 million of services revenue associated with customer commitments to provide certain product functionality. We anticipate that the commitments will be fulfilled, and revenue will be recognized in 2011, beginning in Q2. That covers my Q1 remarks. So let me review our updated guidance, and then I'll turn the call back to Pete.
For 2011 revenue, despite our Q1 license revenue performance, we are maintaining our annual total revenue guidance range of $325 million to $330 million, which represents 10% to 11% growth over 2010. For the balance of the 2011 year, we are forecasting quarterly revenue to be about equal on a quarter-to-quarter basis, adjusting for slightly higher Q2 revenue reflecting expected recognition of some deferred services revenue; slightly lower Q3 license revenue; and Q4 traditional services revenue decline, driven by seasonal holidays. For 2011 adjusted earnings per share -- similar to our view of 2011 revenue, we are maintaining our 2011 view of operating results and adding to that the benefits of the India tax adjustment and the lower forecast tax rate.
The India tax benefit we received in Q1 2011 generated about $0.09 in earnings per share. And we expect the decrease in the underlying effective tax rate, from 34.5% to 33.5%, to generate about $0.02 of additional incremental earnings per share. As a result, we are raising our previous full-year guidance from a range of $1.77 to $1.82 by $0.10, to a new range of $1.87 to $1.92. This new range now represents 18% to 21% growth over 2010 adjusted diluted EPS of $1.58. We expect quarterly earnings per share for the remainder of the year to be roughly equal, with the exception of Q4, which typically is down slightly due to seasonal holidays.
For 2011 GAAP earnings per share, consistent with the increase in adjusted earnings per share, we now expect to deliver GAAP EPS of $1.55 to $1.60, representing 24% to 28% growth over 2010 GAAP-diluted EPS of $1.25. The $0.32 full-year EPS difference between GAAP and non-GAAP adjusted EPS represents equity-based compensation. That's options plus restricted stock, and intangible asset amortization from acquisitions. The per quarter EPS impact of these items is estimated evenly at about $0.08 per quarter. Regarding adjusted operating margins -- as I've stated earlier, we continue to focus on year-over-year operating margin expansion, and are targeting a 100-basis-point improvement over 2010. That covers the 2011 guidance.
Now I'll turn the call back to Pete for the business update.
- President, CEO
Thanks, Dennis. Q1 was a frustrating quarter for recognized license revenue. Our selling teams around the world, and in particular the US, are very busy. The activity level is encouraging, but the closure rates, frustrating. Because our software is often just a part of much larger capital commitments to facilities and material handling equipment, lingering uncertainty in the global macro environment affects our close rate, particularly for $1 million plus deals. Some prospects continue to suffer through, using existing solutions, waiting for the right time to invest. With each passing quarter, these legacy systems age, and pent-up demand grows.
For Q1 2011, the one large deal closed in the quarter was with an existing customer for our warehouse management solution. For comparison, in Q1 2007, we closed three large deals; 2008, four; 2009, zero. And Q1 2010, we closed four $1 million plus transactions. Our revenue goals are based on closing three to four $1 million plus deals in each quarter. Our 2011 pipeline for potential $1 million plus deals is more than healthy enough to support that pace. With anything close to normal close rates, we would meet or exceed the three to four per quarter requirement.
As confidence in making larger capital commitments to supply chain transformations returns, I'm quite confident our win rate on those deals will continue to lead the market. In Q1, about 70% of our license revenue was with existing clients, and about the same figure came from warehouse management systems. Retail, along with consumer goods and third-party logistics, once again accounted for more than half of license revenue. During the quarter, we took more than 65 client sites live on our solutions. I'm quite happy to report that we now have seven clients and 17 sites live on our platform-based warehouse management system, which we released in 2010.
At the end of the first quarter, we had more than 1,900 employees around the world, which is a modest increase from the end of 2010, and up more than 100 from one year ago. We had 56 sales representatives at the end of the quarter, the same as the year-end number. Sales and sales management head count totaled 65, down 1 from December. Over the balance of 2011, we plan to add about 100 people to our staffing, primarily in professional services roles.
Next month, we'll host our annual customer conference, which we call Momentum 2011, at the Hilton Hotel in San Diego, California. The conference theme is, Platform Thinking Activated, and the content is all about the advantages created by having our complete suite of solutions on a common supply chain process platform. We'll be showcasing numerous ways customers can leverage Manhattan's platform approach to lower total cost of ownership and extend market advantage. Much of the material will be presented by our customers, and registrations are up nicely compared to last year. We're looking forward to sharing a good time, and a lot of fun and information with our global customers.
So let me close our prepared remarks with a brief summary. We are fully focused on doing everything in our power to close $1 million license revenue contracts. We're all well aware that license revenue is the most important leading indicator of the health of a software company. But other than our result on that metric, I'm quite pleased with how our Company is performing. Our other revenue categories are quite healthy and growing. Our sales pipelines are large and expanding. Our expense management is diligent. Our investment in R&D and innovation is considerable.
The market reception to our solutions is strong, and our relative competitive strength is increasing. Based on all of these factors, I believe when the inevitable happens, and companies more aggressively act to transform their supply chains, Manhattan's license revenue will reflect winning a very healthy majority of these large opportunities. And our overall financial results will show even greater strength. So that wraps up our comments about Q1. Operator, we'll now take questions.
Operator
(Operator Instructions).
Your first question comes from the line of Terry Tillman from Raymond James. Your line is open.
- Analyst
Yes, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Peter, Dennis, can you talk a little bit more about the services backlog, because I guess that's been the shining star here, over the last couple quarters. Anything to quantify the strength of the services pipeline? Is it accelerating, or is it still strong? But, are you starting to see it ebb a bit, because of the recent license weakness?
- President, CEO
Yes, I'll be happy to take the first crack at that. Terry, it's Pete. Actually our services pipeline strength, actually is consistent with some of the weakness we've seen in license revenue. Clients of Manhattan Associates, and I believe others, continue to invest modestly in enhancing what they currently have installed, either with our systems or other Legacy applications. Modifications to improve business performance, upgrades to improve business performance, and adapt to newer technologies, are some of the motivations for our strong services revenue.
We believe we'll see that continue, even with a somewhat disappointing license revenue results in Q1. We believe optimistically, that as the economy improves, we'll get even further demand for our services capability. I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we're expecting to add about 100 people over the balance of the year, and most of those folks will be in the professional services roles. So we have a nice backlog of work we need to do to continue to meet our customers' demands. And we expect as the economy continues to make slow, but consistent improvements, that the demand for our services will grow similarly.
- Analyst
Okay. So I guess on the services side, I mean sometimes there can be debates, the services is a leading, incidental, or lagging indicator. So, in this case, you're saying it's more a reflection of the environment, and there's still frugal-ness, and doing more with what you have, and optimizing what you currently have. Is there nothing to be said, in terms of the recent resiliency in services strength, to anything that's a leading indicator? Because, what I'm getting at is, I thought the idea is, as this platform initiative continues to take hold, that yes, it's going maybe drive some services and upgrades. But also, it could lead to other module sales, thus helping license.
- President, CEO
Sure, sure. Obviously, Terry, that is one of the key points behind our strategy. We're quite optimistic, given the activity that's taking place now, requests for proposals, demonstrations, site visits, and so forth, that our platform strategy resonates very well. And as companies begin to make a larger investment in transforming their supply chains, we'll be significant beneficiaries of that.
You may recall, Terry, we've talked about in previous conference calls, that our services revenue is largely made up of three components. One component is installing software and configuring software for new sales. A second component is upgrades for existing customers. And a third component is enhancements, or extensions to further enable existing customers to get greater benefit out of their software.
In this kind of environment, where at least in supply chain, where there are significant additional capital commitments required to transform supply chains, the new install demand is a little less than we had hoped. But in that same environment, the demand from clients with the other two components, enhancements and upgrades continues to be strong, and we would expect that to continue. And frankly, we think that is greatly aided by our investments in our platform.
The demands of existing customers, or the requests of existing customers to upgrade from some of our previous releases to our platform-based WMS release is quite encouraging. So we believe we have ample opportunity to continue to perform well in our services business, and look for the upside, as the license revenue market gets stronger.
- Analyst
Okay, okay. And I guess, you guys give a lot of color in terms of how to build or update our models. I know you all don't want to give quarterly specific license, but you give us parameters. And I guess, after the first quarter sluggishness, and you talk about third quarter seasonality, should we be thinking that if the license businesses to see resurgent demand, it's going to be heavily weighted in 4Q? Or is there anything that can be said about potentially 2Q, as we're doing our models, that we could see some sort of notable uplift from the first quarter levels on the license side?
- President, CEO
Yes, Terry, as you know Q2 and Q4 historically have been stronger license revenue quarters for us, Q1 and Q3 weaker. We certainly would expect Q2 of this year, to be noticeably stronger than Q1 of this year. So we would expect nice improvement in Q2 license revenue from the Q1 result. Do I believe we'll be able to recapture everything we had hoped to land in Q1 and Q2? Probably not. I believe that would take longer. But there is always that possibility. But we're very focused on making sure that our win rate stays quite high, and that we'll continue to do everything to drive customer satisfaction. And the selling and marketing teams continue to be quite engaged in driving customer support for Manhattan's applications.
- Analyst
Okay, thanks, guys.
- CFO
Yes, Terry, this is Dennis. I mentioned in the script, that we expect total revenue to be roughly about equal.
- Analyst
Yes.
- CFO
For the last three quarters, the point in that being is, our forecast is not a hockey stick for the back half of the year.
- Analyst
Okay. But you're not necessarily shifting around the components in the top line? You're still looking for what you had been thinking internally before on your license growth, as well as the services and then hardware side? Or has there been any shift, at least for your internal models, on those three line items?
- President, CEO
More or less similar, Terry. Obviously, with the disappointment in Q1 in license, there's maybe some shift, but directionally, I think the initial expectations hold.
- Analyst
Okay. I'll stand down. I've hogged it too long. Sorry.
- President, CEO
Thanks, Terry.
Operator
(Operator Instructions).
Your next question comes from the line of Mark Schappel from Benchmark. Your line is open.
- Analyst
Hi, good evening. Pete, starting with you, given that this is the second consecutive quarter of trouble on the license line with large deals, what gives you confidence that your close rates on these deals is going to improve in the next quarter or two?
- President, CEO
Yes, it's a great question, Mark. I don't have a crystal ball to help us with when these deals will close. What gives us confidence is our win rates in the deals that have closed, both throughout 2010 and Q1 2011 are very high. So we feel very good about our top-of-mind position with prospects and others. In addition, we have seen a lot of net new activity in the sales pipelines. For instance, in the first quarter, we saw a very nice up-tick of additional interest of $1 million plus deals within our sweet spot of retail supply chain transformations.
Now, can we more accurately forecast when those deals will close? Probably not. There's still I think a little bit too much noise in the marketplace, a couple of those could close in 2011. A few more will probably close in 2012. But the activity level is picking up, and the support we're getting for our platform strategy is very encouraging. I don't have a very good sense of when that delay or that lack of sense of urgency will mitigate, but we're cautiously optimistic. With each new drop of positive feedback from the marketplace we get, we get more and more enthusiastic. As I said in prepared remarks, if we can get the license revenue closure rate to improve, financials results we believe will be quite impressive.
- Analyst
Okay, fair enough. And then, in the past, when gasoline prices have jumped up, your customers have paid a little bit more attention to your transportation planning products, looking to reduce their gas costs at the margin. And with gas prices bumping up to about $4.00 a gallon now, I was wondering if you're seeing similar customer interest like you have in the past.
- President, CEO
The interest is starting to pick up, Mark. It's kind of interesting. Fuel prices have bounced around quite a bit in the past 12, 18 months, 24 months, and depending upon your perspective, that will influence some of your strategies.
These systems though, do take a little bit of time to implement and so forth. So I would expect, as has been the case in the past, just a little bit of a lag between spikes in oil prices and the demand for enhanced transportation solutions, particularly the type that Manhattan offers with significant optimization algorithms embedded in them.
So we're optimistic over the balance of 2011, and looking out further that there would be considerable demand for transportation solutions. Again, we think we have a meaningful competitive advantage in that space with our transportation solution on the same supply chain process platform as our warehouse management in each of our other applications, and believe that we can bring enhanced value to that opportunity to minimize the impact of higher oil prices.
- Analyst
Okay. And then finally, I was wondering if you could just provide us with an update of that large project with a hardware customer, and just give us an idea of how that project's proceeding?
- President, CEO
It's going well, Mark. It's progressing right on schedule. They are pleased at this point, and we're pleased with the progress, and we're optimistic that everything will retain that kind of momentum, but so far it's going quite well.
- Analyst
Thank you.
- President, CEO
Thanks, Mark.
Operator
There are no further questions at this time.
- President, CEO
Thank you, everyone. We greatly appreciate your spending sometime with us this afternoon, and we look forward to catching up with you in about 90 days. Good evening.
Operator
This concludes today's conference call.