LiqTech International Inc (LIQT) 2025 Q4 法說會逐字稿

Good morning and welcome to the Lickech International Report's fourth quarter and fiscal year 2025 financial results conference call. (Operator Instructions). I would now like to turn the conference over to Robert Blum with LiqTech. Please go ahead.

All right, thank you very much, Drew, and good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us on today's conference call to discuss Lich Tech International's fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results. Joining us on today's call from the company are Fei Chen, Chief Executive Officer, and David Kowalczyk, the company's Chief Financial and Chief Operating Officer.

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The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect any events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this release and conference call. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Fei Chen, CEO of LiqTech International. Fei, please proceed.

Thank you, Robert, and good day to everyone on the call. 2025 represented a meaningful step forward for the tech. For the whole year, revenue increased 13%, driven by a 49% increase in total systems and aftermarket revenue, and we made improvements to drive efficiencies across much of our business.

That shift toward higher value system sales is central to our long-term strategy and reflects growing adoption of our silicon carbon membrane technology across multiple end markets.

Where we fell short of our original revenue guidance. This was primarily due to continued delays with the large oil and the gas order that remains active in our pipeline. The project is still under discussion, but as we have constantly communicated, the timing of large oil and gas project is difficult to predict.

That's it, we understand that we cannot It's an unpredictable Our focus needs to be at ease and build and diversified systems portfolio with stronger visibility and improved margin profile going forward in my language, this has been consistent with our approach since I took our SCO.

To focus on more predictable part of our business, such as swimming pools, which will be a key driver going forward. We are certainly amplifying this approach going forward in terms of how we allocate our resources. Our commercial pool business was a standout performer in 2025, and they delivered the strongest year in the company's history. We shot 34 pool systems during the year, a new record for the tech.

Of those, 24 systems were delivered in 2025, with the remaining 10 scheduled for delivery in early 2026. Pool system revenue totaled $2.6 million for the year and the percentage a drive of growth within our systems segment.

All systems shops during the year were based on our preparatory larri flow commercial pool filtration platform. Larri flow is designed to meet the increasingly complex operational, regulatory and space requirements facing modern aquatic facilities. Compared to conventional media filtration, our system delivers stable and reliable water quality,

we're enabling greater automation and operational efficiency. It's compact and the mode design makes it particularly well suited for retrofit installations where equipment room space is limited. An increasingly important consideration for operators upgrading aging infrastructure.

The record number of system sales reflects growing customer acceptance and increasing confidence among both operators and distribution partners. We see clear momentum as facilities prioritizing water quality, automation, and space efficiency, and larri flow is emerging as compelling alternative to traditional filtration methods.

We have also made structure improvements to the pool system itself. Our newer modular design is standardized and cost efficient, which improves gross margins and simplifies installation. Unlike oil and gas systems, which oftentimes are highly customized to specific customer needs, pool systems are increasingly becoming repeatable after the year.

Solutions. This makes the market segment both more scalable and profitable. From a distribution standpoint, we recently expanded our relationship with the boundary in the UK into an exclusive distribution agreement, subject to minimum annual system volumes. In addition, we are seeing interest from US based swimming pool companies. In these days,

we are working on the final details for the first US swimming pool project. We see potential opening of a very attractive growth market soon. All told, we have short cruise system in six different countries in 2025 and then look to expand that this year.

Based on the guidance we have provided, we expect to revenue of approximately $5 million to $6 million in 2026, which compares to $2.6 million in 2025, reflecting continued mac adoption and delivery of systems already in backlog.

Turning to water for energy, oil and gas remains an opportunity, but it continues to press timing challenge. We are engaged with multiple providers, both large and small, and the delayed order that impacted 2025 guidance remains under discussion. As mentioned, these systems are typically highly customized, which not only make timing unpredictable,

but also impacts our margin profile, where we continue to pursue this segment and see potential opportunities with partner companies such as NASA in Middle East and ongoing trials through retro back Direct in North America. We are going to be disciplined in how we allocate resources, and we are no longer with our operating plan and difficult to predict customer timing, no matter how, promised they may be.

Where we are seeing encouraging and increasing tangible attraction within broader water for industry applications. The successful delivery and commissioning of our advanced membrane-based filtration system for oil wastewater at the NSA Bluescope Steel has been a key proof point.

The system was designed to resolve recurring filtration disruptions of polymer membranes caused by high oil content and variability in wastewater quality, which has given our customer costly and difficult. Experiences. Our system has demonstrated strong performance. This project has reinforced our belief that industrial wastewater treatment can become a larger and more stable contributor to our business.

Industrial systems tend to be more standardized than oil and gas projects, which supports better margin and the shorter sales cycles. We are seeing increased interest across multiple industries, industry verticals and to support this growth. We added dedicate sales resource to expanding our industry presence in the US.

In further support of our US growth strategy, we also opened a dedicated service center in Texas in partnership with Harrow Systems this past November. This facility enhances our ability to support customers in the water for energy and water for industry segment by providing certified technicians, spare parts availability, remote and on-site technician support, and system maintenance and repairs.

Localize the service is critical to scaling in the US market. The service center not only strengths customer support but has already began to contribute to new business development. By increasing customer confidence in our long-term commitments to the region.

Going ahead, we believe we will see strong contribution from industry side of broader energy segment with upside opportunities from the more specific oil and gas market. In total, we are exceeding. Water for energy, water for industry-related revenue of $5 million to $8 million. This compared to $4.1 million for this market segment in 2025.

We are happy to see that our marine segment is building momentum, particularly through our joint venture in China. During 2025, we broke ground on a new marine-focused and the city center and the localization facility in Haiman, Nantong, and completed a regional spare parts warehouse to strength service capabilities for our growing marine customer base.

These investments are designed to support the development and localization of marine silicon carbon membrane water treatment units for dual fuel engine vessels on board with water purification and reuse. By increasing local assembly and sourcing within China, we are improving supply chain resilience and the cost competitiveness in the market.

We strongly believe that silicon carbon membrane technology will continue in adoption in new marine vessels equipped with dual fuel engine driven by its durability, chemical resistance, and energy efficiency. We ended the year with three marine orders for eight commercial whissles in backlog scheduled for delivery throughout 2026.

Marine revenue, including survey sales, was approximately $1.5 million in 2025, and we are targeting approximately $4 million in 2026, reflecting a good mass adaptation of our membrane filtration technology.

Look at the border system business, including pool, water for energy, water for industry, and the marine side. Our expectation is that we will generate revenue of $14 million to $18 million. This would be up from $8.2 million in systems revenue in 2025. Showing growth of about 70% to 120%. This is a key reason why we are so excited about the future.

Beyond our systems business, we also have our latency DPF and membrane business, and the plastic business, which remains a stable contributor to our operations. Combined, this segment represented approximately $8 million in revenue in 2025.

We expect this part of our business to remain reasonably stable in 2026 and in a caution outlook, anticipating total revenue from the two groups combined to be slightly increased to $9 million in revenue. Looking at 2026, we expect revenue in the range of $23 million to $27 million a positive full year 2026, adjusted EBITDA in the middle to high range of the revenue guidance, assuming constant currency.

Growth is expected to be driven primarily by continued expansion in pod systems, industry applications, and the marine. The range in our revenue guidance largely reflects the continued untraceability of oil and gas project timing.

Our strategic focus remains clear, scale, standardized, higher margin system platforms. We are maintaining disciplined, cost control, and operational efficiency with the goal of near-term profitability.

Let me now turn the call over to David to review the financials in more detail. I will then make a few closing comments and look to open the call for your questions, David.

Thank you, sir, and good day everyone Let me take some time diving into the financial results in a bit more detail and add some color to what was in the press release Please note that I will keep my remarks focused primarily on the year-to-year changes Let's start with revenue.

So, revenue for the year came in slightly above $16.5 million, up from $14.6 million a year ago Broken down by verticals, sales for the year were as follows Systems and aftermarket sales of $8.2 million compared to 5.5 million in the prior year. DVF and ceramic membrane cells were $4 million, down from $5.6 million in the prior year.

And finally, plastic components revenue came in at $4.1 million compared to $3.4 million last year. The increase was mainly due to increased deliveries of systems, the pool energy industry, and marine water treatment, and components in plastics, partly offset by decreased sales of filters.

The increase in deliveries of systems was mainly driven by increased deliveries within food filtration and industry systems. The increase in components, mainly within machine building for food industry. the decrease in sales of filters was primarily driven by a refocusing of our strategy to capitalize on subsegments where we see increased due to demand for DPF outside automotives.

As I mentioned, the delta between our reasoned expectations for 25' and actual result is primarily due to the delay in a larger oil and gas system. Which remains in our pipeline, but we have not yet received the purchase order for. Turning to gross margins. Margins for the year was 7.6% compared to 1.7% in 2024.

As we continue to be below our optimal revenue level, we continue to have fixed production costs that are not being fully absorbed and those lower than normalized gross margins. A couple of key notes is that part of the increase in gross margins was due to the higher level of overall revenue. As our contribution margins are typically on average in the 40% area.

But we do have some fluctuations between market segments, as you know. However, this was offset by the investment of resources into deliveries of containerized oil and gas systems to the US. Which contributed to a lower than usual margin. Reflecting a strategic decision aimed at demonstrating the validation. Of our value proposition associated with our technology and seeking the market for future growth.

As we move forward, a key focus will be on leveraging our standardized systems. Which inherently a higher margin. This means more focus on pools, industrial applications, marine applications, and membranes cells. Turning to OpEx, total operating expenditures for the year were $9.6 million compared to $9.7 million last year.

Breaking it down, selling expenses for the year were $2.7 million compared to $2.7 million last year. This development was partly driven by fully effects of savings made in 2024 and lower conceivable write-offs and provision needs These effects were partly offset by costs associated with our newly formed to venture in China.

Cos for outbound distribution, including tariffs to the US and expenditures related to external sales consultancy services, which also increased in 2025 General administrative expenses for the year ended December 2025 were $5.7 million compared to $5.7 million in 2024.

The underlying development in local currencies, Danish crowns, was a 4% improvement compared to 24. This development was due to savings made in 24', partly balanced by filling the CFO position and other own positions Research and development expenses for the year was $1.2 million compared to $1.4 million in 24'.

The decrease was primarily due to a more focused R&D strategy with fewer ongoing projects and reduced average number of employees engaged in external research and development activities but the year adjusted EBITDA was $5 million compared to $6.1 million last year.

Turning to our guidance For 2026, we are expecting revenue to be in the range from $23million to $27 million As we break this down, we are anticipating That our broader water for energy and water for industry business will be between $5 million and $8 million We believe our pool business will be in the range of $5 million to $6 million.

Our marine business will be about $4 million, of which 60% will be from new systems and 40% from our recurring service business and finally that our legacy DPF and plastics business will be about $9 million We target a positive full year 2026 EBITDA in the mid to high range of the revenue guidance, assuming constant currencies.

And finally, from a cash perspective, we ended the quarter with $5.1 million in cash Everything else was pretty much in line with our normal operating procedures from a balance sheet perspective and with that, let me turn it back to Fei.

Thank you, David to throw things out before I turn over to questions Our silicon carbon filtration platform is central to how we address increasingly complex global water challenges. Build on advanced ceramic membrane technology.

Our solutions are designed to operate reliably in some of the fastest and the most demanding treatment environments, from produced water and energy application to commercial pool systems and the heavy industry wastewater streams.

By helping customers meet strict environmental regulation, we're allowing water usage and energy intensity. We provide practical, high-performance solutions that support long-term sustainability goals. The momentum we generated in 2025.

Including record pool system sales, progress in produced water, marine system deployment, and the industry installations such as our project with a major steel producer, demonstrates the expanding global recognition of our technology's value.

As we look ahead, our direct direction is well-defined. We are prioritizing growth in our most attractive verticals, particularly food, industry applications, and the marine. We are remaining disciplined execution across the organization. At the same time, we remain formally focused on scaling the business to achieve profitability and positioning.

Lisic for durable, profitable growth over the long-term. Again, thank everyone for your support. As Lit, with that, Robert, we would be happy to take any questions.

All right, thank you very much, Fei and David for those prepared remarks. I want to remind everybody that is listening to the webcast player to ask a question. Simply type in your question. Through the ask a question feature in the player there and we'll do our best to get to as many questions here as possible.

There are a few already in the queue here, Faye and David. So the first one here is when can we expect revenue from the large oil and gas order push out to be booked.

That's a good question. And of course, as we mentioned, it's a bit, you can say in the hands of the customer. But we definitely would expect you can say the oil and gas project to materialize in the in the coming in this year, essentially 2026 With the timing of, yeah, we don't know the precise timing but Q2 final session ideally.

Okay, very good. The next question here is do tariffs affect your US oil and gas business? Are your products competitively priced?

This is a very good question, and because the tariffs is a we're moving target, so we really have our focus on that. And up to now, we have been able to kind of have very good discussion with our customers, so we don't really need to take all the tariffs on alone.

And going forward, we're definitely looking at what is the best way for us to handle the tariffs and how we're able to keep our competitiveness. But as we mentioned before, we are working very focused on the cost reduction of our product and also the standardization and efficiency, and that will somehow balance also to the tariff impact on our technology.

Okay, very good. Again, quick reminder to everyone, simply type your question into that ask a question feature in the webcast player if you do have any questions here. A couple of questions here pertaining to your need for capital here in 2026.

As you have here today, we actually have laid out a very clear growth plan, with the revenue guidance of $23 million to $27 million in 2026. So, we are definitely evaluating, how we're able to support this strong growth plan, and that means we are looking at different financial options.

Okay, very good, and it looks like this may be the final question barring any last minute that may come in, and I think you've touched on this a few times, but to reiterate, what are the drivers of your 2026 revenue outlook of $23million to $27 million.

This is a very good question also, as we use for some time in our earnings code about this, and what we really have to, say to ourselves is we have to make really focus on the broader and diversified perspective and also working more on the verticals, which are more vis have more res visibility and higher pre predictability.

So, we're actually looking at the growth in basically all our system segments. The pool system, we're going to have $5 million to $6 million coming this year, and the marine growth from $1.5 million to $4 million. And we say water for energy and water for industry, will be $5 million to $8 million.

There's a bigger range there because the oil and gas project are more difficult to predict the timing and the DPF and plastic plus the membrane area, we expect a slight increase from $8 million to $9 million. So as you can hear now, the drive is from the different verticals, and this gives us much more reliable and predictable revenue growth compared with before.

Okay, very good. I'm showing no further questions in the queue. So, with that I would like to turn the, call back over to Fei for closing remarks.

Thank you, Robert. I would like to say thank you to all of you for being with us today. We look forward to com communicating with you soon again Thank you.

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