Lument Finance Trust Inc (LFT) 2025 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good morning and thank you for joining the Lument Finance Trust third quarter 2025 earnings call. Today's call is being recorded and will be made available via webcast on the company's website. I would now like to turn the call over to Andrew Tsang with investor relations at Lument Investment Management. Please go ahead.

Morning everyone.

Thank you for joining our call to discuss Lument Finance Trust's third quarter 2025 financial results.

With me on the call today are Jim Flynn, our CEO, Jim Briggs, our CFO, Greg Calvert, our President, and Zach Halpern, our managing director of portfolio management.

On Wednesday, November 12th we filed our 10Q with the SEC and issued a press release to provide details on our recent financial results.

We also provided a supplemental earnings presentation which can be found on our website.

Before handing the call over to Jim Flynn, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements made during the course of this call are not based on historical information and they constitute forward-looking statements within the meanings of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.

Such forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in forward-looking statements.

These risks and uncertainties are discussed in the company's reports filed with the SEC, in particular the risk factors sections of our Form 10K and Form 10Qs.

It is not possible to predict all or identify all such risks, and listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements.

The company undertakes no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements. Further, certain non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call.

Presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation nor as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP.

Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures the parent importance of GAAP can be accessed through our filings with the SEC.

In the third quarter of 2025, we reported a GAAP net income of $0.01 per share and distributable earnings of $0.02 per share of common stock. In September, we declared a quarterly dividend of $0.04 per common share with respect to the 3rd quarter.

I will now turn the call over to Jim Flynn. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Lument Finance Trust earnings call for the third quarter of 2025. We appreciate everyone joining us today.

Starting out, just taking a look at where the market stands, the economy has remained resilient through this period of shifting monetary policy and geopolitical uncertainty.

On October 29th, the Fed funds cut the Fed funds rate by 25 basis points to a range of 375 to 4%.

But at the same meeting, the Fed made clear that additional cuts remain far from a foregone conclusion, leaving lingering uncertainty in the near term, punctuated by the ongoing geopolitical volatility and the fast moving trade and tariff policy shifts in the US.

Additionally, we now are dealing with the economic drag from the recent federal government shutdown and uncertainty about the future negotiations as we look to reopen the government hopefully in the coming days.

The multi-family sector, fundamentals remain constructive. Rent growth is modest and stable. Occupancy remains strong. New supply, as we've discussed in past calls, is slowing meaningfully.

All conditions that support balance and potential rent recovery over the medium and long-term.

Affordability challenges in the single family market, among many other factors also continue to sustain multi-family demand and credit quality at the asset level.

Review the recent Fed funds cut.

As a cautionary positive development for multi-family lending, as lower short-term index rates should in general help improve our borrowers' ability to meet their outstanding debt obligations as they work towards completion of their business plans.

Meanwhile, the CECLL market continues to remain open for issuers. Year-to-date issuance now exceeds 25 billion, reflecting a healthy level of liquidity and investor confidence. This rebound compared to the prior year supports our outlook for the company's potential to return to the securitization market as a repeat issuer in the future, subject to market and pricing conditions, of course.

The asset management side, we remain focused on actively managing the portfolio. Our team is closely engaged with our borrowers, proactively seeking positive resolutions through modifications, extensions. And REO strategies where appropriate on a weighted average basis, the portfolio credit ratings were relatively stable quarter over quarter, and reserves remained consistent with reasonable expectations. We continue to prioritize capital preservation and disciplined risk management across every position.

Liquidity and financing standpoint, we continue to maintain a conservative liquidity posture this quarter, holding ample unrestricted cash to preserve flexibility while resolving legacy credits and working towards refinancing of the portfolio.

Loan payoffs totaled approximately $49 million and those proceeds were primarily used to reduce securitization liabilities.

As we've alluded to in prior quarters, the company has been very focused on putting new portfolio financing in place that provides us with flexibility to more effectively manage our capital as we work through legacy credit challenges.

Last week we entered into a new repurchase agreement with JPMorgan, providing the company with up to $450 million in aggregate advances.

With this warehouse capacity now in place, last week holders of securities issued by our 2021 CRECLO were notified that the company intends to redeem the associated notes and preferred shares later this month.

Closing the JPM facility was a critical step in repositioning our existing portfolio and subject to market conditions, enabling us to take advantage of new financing opportunities.

Our near term focus is clear driving value through active asset management, resolving legacy positions efficiently, and executing our financing strategy.

Looking ahead, we intend to redeploy capital into our core lending strategy focused on middle market multifamily.

We believe this disciplined approach will position the company well as the market stabilizes and new opportunities emerge.

Our manager's origination and asset management expertise remain a key differentiator, and we are confident that our focus, prudence, and flexibility will translate into lasting shareholder value.

With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Jim Briggs, who will provide details on our financial results, Jim.

Thanks, Jim. Good morning, everyone.

Last night, we filed our quarterly report on Form 10Q and provided a supplemental investor presentation on our website, which we will be referencing during our remarks.

Supplemental investor presentation has been uploaded to the webcast as well for your reference. On pages 4 through 7 of the presentation, you'll find key updates and an earnings summary for the quarter.

The third quarter of 2025, we reported net income to common stockholders of approximately $700,000 or 1 penny per share. We also reported distributable earnings of approximately 1 million or $0.02 per share. There are a few items I'd like to highlight with regards to the Q3 P&L.

Our Q3 net interest income was $5.1 million, a decline from $7 million recorded in Q2. Weighted average coupon of our loan portfolio remained relatively flat sequentially. The average outstanding UPD of the portfolio declined and principal loan repayments were used to pay down a portion of our secured financings, contributing significantly to the reduction in net interest income for the period.

Additionally, the reversal of certain accrued interest and the non-recording of interest on non-accrual loans contributed approximately $800,000 to the decrease.

Our total operating expenses, including fees to our manager, were down slightly quarter on quarter as we recognized expenses of $3.1 million in Q3 versus $3.2 million in Q2. The reduction is primarily attributable to less fees paid to our managers sequentially.

The primary difference between reported net income and distributable earnings is primarily attributable to $345,000 of depreciation on real estate owned.

As of September 30th, we have seven loans risk rated of 5. All of these loans are collateralized by multi-family assets. Greg will provide a bit more detail in his remarks on those loans.

With respect to our allowance for credit losses, we evaluated the seven risk rated 5 loans individually to determine whether assets specific reserves were necessary.

After analysis of the underlying collateral, we recorded a provision for credit losses of approximately $900,000.

We also charged off approximately $200,000 of reserves recorded in prior quarters against the allowance for an asset that went REO in Q3.

Our general allowance for credit losses decreased to $5.7 million from $6.6 million in Q2, with the decrease driven primarily by a decrease in portfolio balance, largely offsetting the Pacific Reserve increase.

We ended the second quarter with an unrestricted cash balance of $56 million and our investment capacity through our two secured financings was fully deployed.

The CRECLO securitization transaction we issued in 2021 provided effective leverage of 72% to our loan assets at a weighted average cost of funds of so far plus 179 basis points.

The 2023 LMF financing provided the portfolio with effective leverage of 77% at a weighted average cost of funds of SO plus 325.

On a combined basis, the two securitizations provided a portfolio with effective leverage of 74% and a weighted average cost of funds of SOR plus 230% as a quarter end.

As Jim previously mentioned, note holders in our 2021 CRECLO were notified that we intend to redeem the associated notes and preferred shares later this month.

The company's total equity at the end of the quarter was approximately $230 million. Total book value of common stock was approximately $670 million or $3.25 per share, decreasing sequentially from $3.27 a share as of June 30th. We'll now turn the call over to Greg Calvert to provide details on the company's investment activity and portfolio performance during the quarter. Greg.

Thank you, Jim.

During the third quarter, LFT experienced $49 million of loan payoffs. As of September 30th, our total loan portfolio consisted of 51 floating rate loans with an aggregate unpaid principal balance of approximately $840 million a weighted average floating rate of SOPA plus 355 basis points, and an unamortized aggregate purchase discount of $1.9 million.

The weighted average remaining term of our book as of quarter end was approximately 16 months, assuming all available extensions are exercised by our borrowers.

100% of the portfolio was indexed to 1 month so far, and 90% of the portfolio was collateralized by multi-family properties.

As of September 30th, approximately 46% of the loans in our portfolio were risk rated at a 3% or better compared to 63% the prior quarter. Our weighted average risk rating quarter over quarter remained flat at 3.5%. During the period we transitioned to loans with an aggregate UPB of $44.1 million from a 5 rating as of June 30th to a 4 or better rating as of September 30th.

As of September 30th, we had seven loan assets risk rated 5 with an aggregate principal amount of approximately $86.4 million or approximately 10% of the unpaid principal balance of our quarter and investment portfolio.

Of these, 4 were risk rated 5 in the prior quarter, and these included an $11.9 million loan collateralized by a multi-family property in Clante, Michigan, a $10.3 million loan collateralized by a multi-family property in Colorado Springs, a $13.7 million loan collateralized by a multi-family property in Cedar Park, Texas, an $8.2 million loan collateralized by a multi-family property in Des Moines, Iowa. All of these loans, risk rated at 5, were in monetary default as a quarter end. The other three loan assets that were risk rated this quarter included a $10.3 million loan collateralized by a multi-family property in Clearfield, Utah, a $15 million loan collateralized by two multi-family properties in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

A $17 million loan collateralized by two multi-family properties in Tallahassee, Florida. Of these 35 risk-grad loans, one was in maturity default and the other two were in monetary default as a quarter end.

As of September 30th, our REO comprised of four multi-family properties. Three of these properties are located in San Antonio and one is located in Houston. As a quarter end, these properties had a weighted average occupancy rate of approximately 73.5%. Achieving positive asset management outcomes and maximizing our recovery values remains our priority. With that, I will pass it back to Jim Flynn for his closing remarks and questions, Jim.

Thank you, Greg.

I'd like to thank our guests for joining, and at this point, I would like to open the call to questions.

Forward to hearing from you.

(Operator Instructions)

Chris Muller with Citizens Capital Market.

Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions. So I guess on the risk ratings, do you guys feel that you've identified the bulk of the issues in the portfolio at this point, or are you still kind of going through things and we could see some further downgrades coming forward?

So I think we have a good handle on the portfolio, know what all of the assets are and feel very comfortable with where the risk ratings are today.

Obviously subject to market conditions or things changing, that could change, but I, from our standpoint and from our, active management of all of these assets, we feel that we've identified all of the known issues, and if conditions kind of continue in each of the markets as they stand today, there's no expectation that there would be further change. As we all know, and we look around at the market and things that are going on, obviously.

Any kind of market conditions are subject to change, but we certainly feel like we've done a deep dive in the portfolio, across the board.

Got it. And then maybe on the flip side of that, how are you guys thinking about portfolio growth in the coming quarters? Is the primary focus going to be on asset management or could we see some new loans coming on, especially given the new financing?

Yeah, look, I think the new financing, certainly gives us more flexibility to add assets having a little more.

We're having more clarity and certainty around where we feel the portfolio stands, will provide us with certainly more of an opportunity to look to add to the portfolio, we've been certainly very focused on.

Asset management and cash preservation and liquidity to make sure that we positioned ourselves for, frankly where we feel we are today, so yes, certainly we hope that, things remain and that gives us an opportunity to, put more assets on the books in the coming quarters.

Got it. And I can squeeze one more in. Is there anything you guys can share on timing for expectations for REO sales? And can you just remind me, is there any financing against that REO or is it held on levered?

So today, the REO, I'll answer the second part first today we, we've all, we've consistently held our the REO that we have, this is also true at the manager, on levered, we do have, flexibility to put some financing against the value of those assets, through.

You, debt providers and facilities, both that we entered into JP and our potential other providers. So to the extent we are planning to hold an asset, and in most cases our REO sales are wholly dependent on our view of the overall credit of the asset.

Typically in these situations when you've had deterioration and you're taking an asset back, there's some very regular, upgrades and improvement in management that usually needs to occur in the, 3 to 6 month period at a minimum, and then, go forward from there is more of a value judgment and because of the team we have in place and the size and scope of the sponsor, for LFT, we've typically decided it's better to at least perform, those actions, on behalf of the LFT shareholders and perhaps then some to create, more value, so the timing for the REOs is very asset specific. We may dispose of some quickly in that kind of 3 to 6 month period as we just kind of clean up the asset. Make sure it's as occupied as it can and then perhaps sell, but typically our REO team, that as their job manages assets, takes a look at these and feels like there's, some pretty good opportunity for improvement and value, and those might be a bit longer-term hold, and that's where we would look to, some of our providers to give us some leverage against those, on a value basis.

Relatively low levered, lower than a than a traditional new loan for sure.

Got it. It's all very helpful. I appreciate you guys taking the questions.

Greg Vinnett, an investor.

Good morning. Could you, is there any change in your relationship with your sponsor Auric USA? I understand they acquired a company called Hilco.

And Hilco, I think, does lending asset-backed lending.

Could you describe if there's any conflict.

First, no, there's no change in the relationship between Aix and Lument. The acquisition of Hilco is, they are an asset backed, lender.

Their business model does not really overlap with overlap in any material way with LFT.

In the, first mortgage bridge lending business, so I don't think there's a major conflict there. They do have some asset backed real estate lending, and of course their parent or is a large lender and so in terms of expanding the overall footprint of our real estate lending business across the parent company Lument and LFT, I do expect that to continue to expand which is a positive for LFT and for the whole company, but I don't think there's any reason to think that that the Hilco acquisition would have a material impact and certainly not a negative impact on on LFT.

Okay. Second question, on real estate owned, if you actually, if the value of that real estate owned actually increases over what the amount that is owed and you sell it.

Do we reap the benefit of that, or does some of that go back to the previous owner or lender?

Yeah, so let me clarify one thing on the REO that that to the extent that those are currently held in the securitization, they technically still have leverage against them in the pooled concept. I know I said earlier, but looking forward.

As an example, when we call FL1 or if we were to call, our second securitization and bring those on balance sheet, that's where we would use the other credit facilities to put leverage on those and then.

Answering your question, once it's REO, meaning we foreclose and we own it, the, any increase in value would, go to the shareholders of LFT, go to LFT corporate.

Okay, on the new financing with, JPMorgan, it said something about sofa plus to be determined, and I guess I was trying to understand you mentioned on the call that you're planning on redeeming the 2021 CLO. I think that's what you said.

And yeah, I think, yeah, and I think that's sour plus 175 if am I correct?

The 2021 correct me if that's where it's been delevering, so it changes kind of every time the loan pays off the cost changes because it goes to pay down the debt.

Yeah, at Jim and mentioned during the remarks, it's at sour plus 179 and the important thing to note there, it's at a leverage of 72% as well.

Yeah, I guess why would you pay that off versus the 2023 unless I guess it's still in the investment period which is sulfur plus 355. It's that you're paying off the less expensive.

So the strategy is for us to reenter the securitization market.

The size and of the FL1 provides us a better opportunity to enter that in a meaningful way.

It's an order of operations. I mean we've been working toward.

We've been working toward.

The refinance of our portfolio that includes FL1 that includes LMF that includes our term loan, so this is the first step that unlocks, close to $170 million of equity at FL1 that can be redeployed in a different vehicle, whereas LMF is under $70 million, so there's significantly more capital trapped in in FL1.

And to give you like a context of the securitization market leverage in in that market today is in the high 80s.

And you're in the 70s, is that correct?

That's correct.

So is the cost of funds from a new agreement with JPMorgan, it's so for plus we don't know what, is.

That's not, it's that it's dependent on the asset, so that, that's why it's there's not a set spread, it's an asset by asset look, but it's in the broadly speaking the. The high 100s to the low 200s over depending on the asset.

Okay, so can you use, you have a term loan I think coming due in 26, a corporate debt matures in 2026.

Can you use the JPMorgan blind to retire that debt or not.

I mean, indirectly we can in the sense that it provides, the JPMorgan line provides us with.

Leverage and liquidity that is fungible, meaning we can pay off the term loan with it or reinvest or otherwise, so.

The direct answer is no, not directly. The indirect answer is yes. The purpose of this vehicle is to provide us with flexibility, and liquidity, across the platform and as far as the term loan goes, we have not, we are talking to our term loan provider and you know we're still discussing the potential to either pay that off, partially pay that off or refinance.

That term loan so we haven't, that decision has not been made yet.

Okay.

Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Okay.

As there are no more questions, I will pass back to James Flynn for any closing remarks.

Okay, thank, I want to thank everyone for joining us. We are certainly excited about the progress we've made here. Look forward to the upcoming quarter and speaking to you again soon. Thanks all for joining.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call.

Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.