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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Kura Sushi USA, Inc. fiscal first-quarter 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode and the lines will be open for your questions estions following the presentation. Please note that this call is being recorded.

  • On the call today, we have Hajime Jimmy Uba, President and Chief Executive Officer; Jeff Uttz, Chief Financial Officer; and Benjamin Porten, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and System Development. Now, I'd like turn the call over to Mr. Porten.

  • Benjamin Porten - SVP of IR and System Development

  • Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you all for joining. By now, everyone should have access for our fiscal first quarter 2024 earnings release. It can be found at www.kurasushi.com in the Investor Relations section. Copy of the earnings release has also been included in the 8-K we submitted to the SEC.

  • Before we begin our formal remarks, I need to remind everyone that part of our discussion today will include forward-looking statements defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore, you should not put undue reliance. These statements are also subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect.

  • We refer all of you to our SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial condition. Also, during today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures so we can be useful in evaluating our performance. Presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP and reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures are available in our earnings release. With that out of the way, I'd like to turn the call over to Jimmy.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • Thank you and happy new year to everyone joining us today. Fiscal 2024 is off to an exceptionally strong start with meaningful improvement in restaurant level operating profit margin and adjusted EBITDA, as well as six new units opened to date and another seven under construction. Our goal for this fiscal year remains the same as last year: maintain excellent operations, continue to rapidly grow the number of our restaurants, and rebalance our G&A against an increasingly larger base. I am pleased to say that we are continuing to make excellent progress on all three fronts.

  • Total sales for the fiscal first quarter was $51.5 million, representing comparable sales growth of 3.8% with solid growth being responsible for 3.3% of our overall growth. There is some momentum that's accelerated since our last earnings call, as implied by the 110-basis-point improvement over the blended September-October comps of 3.7%, with the improvement being driven entirely by traffic growth. Effective price was 9% during the fiscal first quarter. As of the first week of December, we up 7% in price need to be partially offset in January pricing of approximately 1%.

  • Our current 3% effective pricing is a return to our historical pricing cadence, which reflects our confidence in the ongoing normalization of our prime costs, as well as a strong strategic decision to better take advantage of current macro factors to maintain traffic growth and the capture market share. Commodity costs have seen a market improvement over the prior year quarter, with our cost of goods sold as a percentage of sales coming in at 29.8% for Q1, as compared to last year of 31.6%. Labor costs have largely remained at the main chain at 31.6%, as compared to prior year quarter of 31.9%.

  • Restaurant level operating profit margins improved from 18.3% in the prior year quarter to 19.5% adjusted EBITDA grew from $0.6 million to $1.8 million, representing year-over-year growth of approximately 200%. It's worth mentioning that matches our asset EBITDA growth was driven by improvements in commodity costs, but it is truly encouraging to see such dramatic growth even while we face the under headwinds opportunity to be with have for 40s of compliance and the restaurant EBIT headwind associated with a record number of new restaurant openings and the units under construction.I believe if EBITDA growth on the uplift of what we can expect in future years as we grow our unit base, much as a company, and we are even better able to leverage our G&A.

  • In the fiscal first quarter, we opened four new restaurants: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Flushing, New York; Tampa, Florida; and Naperville; Illinois. Subsequent to the quarter end, we opened two more new restaurants in Kansas City, Missouri; and Skokie, Illinois. Originally, we have seven units currently under construction. Accordingly, we are excited to increase our unit opening guidance for fiscal 2024, which Jeff will expand on shortly.

  • The incredible reception that you're seeing as we establish ourselves in new markets, demonstrates the truly national cost of profitability of Kura Sushi and the performance of new units in existing market is confirming our expectations that the massive consumer appetite for sushi is more than enough to sustain our [Asian] brands. It's been a couple of months since we launched a new version of our leader's program, and I'm very pleased to be able to share that our momentum that we discussed in our previous earnings call has remained just as strong. The installation rate for new members are approximately triple of what they are with the previous program. And given that these are all new users, we expect greater engagement on a per-user basis than the of our comfort of the previous US program.

  • While it is still very much early days in terms of the new US program and our earnings has the best ever achieved, we expect to give more concrete update in future earnings calls in terms of annuity and other opportunities and it's potential to drive incremental revenue. Our current ID collaboration business has been very well received by our guests. Our next brand of collaboration is a family and the diabetes pipeline for the remainder of the fiscal year is the strongest one we have ever had.

  • As we enter the new year, our Directors and all of our team members, both at our restaurants and of our corporate support center, for all of their hard work, which has allowed us to have our fair share of revenues quarter after quarter on our earnings call. And with that, I'll turn it over to Jeff to discuss our financial results and the liquidity. Jeff?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Thank you, Jimmy. For the first quarter, total sales were $51.5 million, as compared to $39.3 million in the prior year period. Comparable restaurant sales performance, as compared to the prior year period, was positive 3.8%, with regional comps of 9% in our West Coast market and 1.3% in our Southwest markets. Turning now to costs, food and beverage costs as a percentage of sales were 29.8%, as compared to 31.6% in the prior year quarter, largely due to pricing and the easing of commodity inflation. Labor and related costs as a percentage of sales decreased to 31.6% from 31.9% in the prior-year quarter.

  • This decrease is due to sales deleveraging from increased traffic and pricing, which was largely offset by increased training costs associated with new store openings and general wage increase. Occupancy and related expenses as a percentage of sales were 7.6%, compared to the prior year quarter 7.3%. Due to incremental pre-opening rents associated with a greater number of units under construction, depreciation and amortization expenses as a percentage of sales increased to 4.8% as compared to the prior year quarters, 4%, largely due to the additional newly-opened units as well, as the accelerated depreciation of assets are being replaced due to planned remodels.

  • Other costs as a percentage of sales increased to 14.7% compared to 13.5% in the prior year quarter, due mainly to pre-opening costs associated with a greater number of store openings, as well as an increase in marketing costs and general cost inflation. General and Administrative expenses as a percentage of sales decreased to 16.7%, as compared to 16.9% in the prior year quarter, due to greater sales leverage, which was largely offset by incremental public company costs and recruiting and travel costs associated with new unit opened.

  • Operating loss was $3.8 million as compared to an operating loss of $2.2 million in the prior year quarter, largely driven by incremental other costs, depreciation and amortization, and occupancy associated with the greater number of unit openings and units under construction. Income tax expense was $38,000 compared to $10,000 in the prior year quarter. Net loss was $2 million for $0.18 per share compared to a net loss of $2.1 million or $0.21 per share in the prior year quarter. Restaurant-level operating profit as a percentage of sales was 19.5% compared to 18.2% in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $1.8 million compared to $0.6 million in the prior year quarter.

  • Turning to our cash and liquidity. At the end of the fiscal first quarter, we had $64.2 million in cash and cash equivalents and no debt. And lastly, I would like to update and reaffirm the following guidance for fiscal year 2024. We now expect total sales to be between $239 million and $244 million. We now expect to open between 12 and 14 units, with average net capital expenditures per unit of approximately $2.5 million. And we continue to expect general and administrative expenses as a percentage of sales to be approximately 14.5%. Now, I'll turn it back over to Jimmy.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • Thanks, Jeff. This concludes our prepared remarks. We are now happy to answer any questions you have. Operator, please open the line for questions. As a reminder, during the Q&A session, I may answer in Japanese before my response is translated into English. Thank you for your attention.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Joshua Long, Stephens.

  • Joshua Long - Analyst

  • Great, thank you for taking my question. Just curious if you can share a little bit more about the unit development pipeline and what seems to be a nice strengthening in that. I know in the prior call you talked about the potential for upside to the new unit development pipeline for the year, that seems to be coming into fruition. Just curious if this is a function of site selection and maybe if permitting has gotten any better or anything you could share there in terms of just how the new stores are coming together.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • So, thank you, Joshua, for your thoughtful questions. Please allow me to speak in Japanese then we'll translate. (interpreted) So as Jimmy mentioned in the prepared remarks, we have seven units under construction and we're extremely pleased to be able to say that three of those are pretty far into construction. So we're very happy with where we are. It's one of the reasons that we were confident in terms of raising our guidance. In terms of the permitting delays that we've mentioned in the past fiscal year, those have meaningfully eased. And so we're very happy with the rollout and how smooth it's been this year.

  • Joshua Long - Analyst

  • Great. That's very helpful, thank you. And I'm thinking maybe more about the performance of newer stores, it sounds like that's pretty strong. Did you give a little bit of extra context or color in terms of just how the results for the quarter performed versus your expectations? I know there's always going to be a little bit of difference in between what you will see and how we model it, but I'm thinking particularly in terms of just how average weekly sales growth are we growing through the quarter.

  • And maybe, if at some point, we get away from looking at this on a multiyear stack comparison. I know we're getting further away from COVID and some of those disruptions. But just curious if you're starting to see any normalization there and any commentary you could share on how new store performances is unfolding?

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • (interpreted) In terms of new restaurants, fiscal '23 has been a record year. This year, we've already opened six to date, and so we've had a lot new openings. In terms of the major new markets that we've hit, we've entered Minneapolis, we've opened a couple of restaurants in New York, we hit Pittsburgh, we're in Tampa. It's been it's a pleasure, really, to see how warm the reception has been in each of these markets.

  • And every time we open every time we enter in a new market, it's just a confirmation of the portability of our concept. And so it's really encouraging for us. In terms of the existing markets, we've opened a couple of New Jersey, Chicago, the Atlanta area, and those are all doing very well as well. As Jimmy mentioned in the earlier prepared remarks, there's abundant appetite for sushi across the United States.

  • And so we feel very confident, not only in terms of our existing or new markets which are gangbusters, but infilling our existing markets as well. So in terms of the multiyear stack, we're not funding it from being totally frank. We're not internally doing a multi-year stack anymore. We've returned to normalcy. And so we're very pleased to be able to say that.

  • Joshua Long - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you, that's helpful. And one last one for me, in terms of the food deflation or just the overall COGS basket that you talked when you for paired remarks. I think also in the past there a conversation around the potential to reinvest in food quality or other areas if the food cost margin was materially below 30% as a starting point. To realize that probably early on and build process and there's still a little bit fluidity there, but could you just remind us how you're thinking about the food cost line and when and where was the pivot point or thought process might lie in terms of potential forcing leverage or maybe reinvesting in that line item?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Yes, Josh, it's Jeff. Yeah, the 30% number that on the COGS line is something that we're very happy with. It's something that we would like to see a little bit lower, and it has to be gone lower. In terms of deflation, just to give you the numbers of what we've seen this year, year-over-year, our deflation was about 4%; and sequentially, quarter-over-quarter, our deflation was about 2%.

  • So that inflation, combined with the price increases that we've taken over the last year, and as Jimmy mentioned, we did take about 1% on January 1, we believe that with the price increases and the deflation that we're going to be successful in having that COGS number show up even a little bit below 30. But as we've mentioned in the past, there's a floor to that. If that COGS number were to get somewhere 27, 28, that may be a little bit too low. And then you you do risks hurting your food quality, which is not something we're going to do. So as long as we can keep that number in the very, very high 20s, or right around 30%, we're going to be happy.

  • (multiple speakers) In terms of reinvesting that, some things that we've done maturely or significantly improved the quality of our core proteins, especially tuna and salmon, I'm very pleased to be able to say that we've done that, while also lowering our COGS basket or COGS cost. And so that's really been pretty remarkable for us. One of the things that we'd like to do is our LTOs. For example, in December, we did a crab fair, very high-quality crab. Winter is crab season in Japan. And this was one of the most popular LTOs ever. And I think our guests really enjoyed it and appreciated that we were giving back to our guests through craft.

  • Joshua Long - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you so much.

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Thanks, Jonathan.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Josh.

  • Operator

  • Jeremy Hamblin, Craig-Hallum.

  • Jeremy Hamblin - Analyst

  • Thanks and congrats on the strong results. I wanted to just come back. There's a little bit of break-up in the audio in some of the commentary around menu pricing as well as same-store sales. Color. Apologies for going back over some of this, but I want to make sure that I understood the cadence of comps color that you shared throughout FQ1; and then two, I think what I heard on the menu pricing was that you're carrying 3% overall in FQ2. And then the comp on the West Coast versus the other regions or in the Southwest region? If we could start with that, that would be great.

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Yeah, so the pricing that we ran, Jeremy, in Q1 was 9%. We've lapped the 7% pricing in December and then we took the 1% at the beginning of January, so we're currently at 3% on pricing. We're very, very happy with where the comp never came out and what we really want to point everybody back to is that traffic number, that traffic of 3.3% that we saw in Q1. And as you know, listening to conference calls still throughout the year, very few concepts have been able to have positive traffic.

  • And we look at that number, and as long as we we can keep people coming back in the door and keep our existing guests coming back, we're going to be very happy. That's one of the things that we can control through great service and great food quality. We continue to do that. We believe that our guests are going to keep coming through that door and keep that traffic positive. And if we can do that, we're very positive that we can. It's going to be a good year for us.

  • And just to add on the cadence, given that the audio broke up a little bit, we gave September and October comps last earnings call, it was 2.7%. And so you can assume that the comps for November will be much stronger given that we came in at 3.8% for the full quarter. And given that we didn't take any price during that quarter or the acceleration was driven solely due to traffic. So back to Jeff's earlier point on, we're very, very pleased to see that we're operating, executing so well that more guests than ever coming in to our doors.

  • Jeremy Hamblin - Analyst

  • Got it. I think there was some commentary on the West Coast versus the South West market comps also just wanted to clarify?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Yeah, give me second. I have the numbers here. Why is over now? Suddenly I have charts that 9% in the West Coast and 1.3% in the Southwest market.

  • Jeremy Hamblin - Analyst

  • Got it. Just coming back to the comp overall, in terms of where the menu pricing was, traffic up really strong 3.3%. Are you still seeing a little bit of reduction in average plate consumption? Go ahead.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • (interpreted) At a sequential basis from Q4 to Q1, plate consumption per person has actually gone up. And on a year-over-year comparison, it's about why. And so we're really happy with where play consumption is.

  • Jeremy Hamblin - Analyst

  • Got it. And then I wanted to shift gears to your labor cost. And you said had a nice 30-basis-points of leverage year-over-year. I think minimum wage in California on January 1 is up about 3.2%. But wanted to get an outlook of what you're thinking about, Jeff, on on the labor market here in calendar '24 as removing 40 seen a little bit less pressure? I think there's also you know in April the impact of the potential large-scale fast food wage laws that are going in to affect the$20 wage. But just wanted to get a sense for what you are expecting? and again, pretty nice leverage that you got on a 3.8% comp.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • I'm happy to answer this question, Josh. (interpreted) So in past earnings calls, we've mentioned that about, I think until about Q3 of last year, the year-over-year labor inflation was about 10% since moderated to mid-single digits, and that is including the annual minimum wage increases in California. With the 1%-ish pricing that we took as of January, we believe that that's enough to offset on the labor increases and really keep our margins flat year-over-year.

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • You'd asked about [80,12,28], as I previously known as the FAST Act we're very pleased that I think we're pretty much -- I think we're the only concept that is saying that we see this as an opportunity. In terms of our California markets, our employees are already making wages that are competitive with $20 that people are going to be making at QSR. And so obviously, QSRs need to take aggressive price to be able to offset that, and so we see this as a meaningful opportunity to grow market share as.

  • Up until now, the conversation has really been to go to Kura Sushi. We're going to go to other casual dining places. Now let's do we get a combo meal at the burger place or do we get for sushi? And that's one of the reasons that we're running 3% prices. We really want to demonstrate to the world at large, not just our existing guests, how great a value Kura Sushi is.

  • Jeremy Hamblin - Analyst

  • Got it, that's great point. Last one for me, and I'll hop out of the queue, just wanted to ask about some of the recent collaborations, right? You've partnered with Peanuts and Snoopy in December here into January. And wanted to get a sense for how that promotion was performing? It seems to be generating a decent amount of buzz.

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Yeah, we're really pleased with the December results and the Peanuts collaborations sort of a big part of it. Our PR team gets better and better with every of collaboration that we cycle through this time. They give a really spectacular job with what call the space collaboration. Not just toys or the animes, but we had photo ops for the restaurant for decked out like Charlie Brown Christmas.

  • We had little pig Snoopy figures on our Mr. fresh items, and those would go mysteriously missing. A part of that. You really can't get higher praise than that, certainly not encouraging guests to do that, but it was it was nice to see people so that excited about it. And as Jimmy mentioned earlier, we've got Spy X Family as our next collaboration and then got two more after that for the remainder of the fiscal year. This is the best pipeline we've ever had. I could not be more excited. I wish I could tell you what they were right now, but you have to wait until the next call.

  • Jeremy Hamblin - Analyst

  • Great, thanks for taking all the questions and best wishes.

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Of course, thank you.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Jeremy.

  • Operator

  • Sharon Zackfia, William Blair.

  • Sharon Zackfia - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my question. Jeff, I have to confess, I was a little surprised that you raised revenue guidance this early in the fiscal year, but I'm curious on the $1 million raise. Was that anticipated? And initial guidance, was it the opening schedule that (technical difficulty) business?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Sharon, you're cutting out a little bit on my end, but I think I got the gist of your question. So as Jimmy mentioned earlier on one of the questions that was asked that, the cadence of the opening is going quicker than we had expected, which is why we decided to raise the guidance. We we feel that we're going to have some more operating weeks and have an additional unit come in at the end of the year, which is why we raised it to $1 million, not more than that. To talk about some of the things have been happening with the openings in the markets that we're opening in, we have seen some of the permitting problems that we did have last year ease and some of the site selection has been really good, and landlords are excited about getting us yet.

  • And I was talking to our Chief Development Officer recently. In fact, last night, he was telling me that the landlords are getting their work done quicker because they want to get us in and they're excited about having Kura Sushi as part of their portfolio. And the quicker they can get their work done, the quicker that we can get our work done and we can get open and we're seeing that happen, which is why we raised the guidance a little bit. I wanted to get through the first quarter and kind of see how that played out. We thought that that's how it would be, but we wanted to get through the first quarter and watch what happened before we raised the guidance. So that's where we are where we are.

  • Sharon Zackfia - Analyst

  • Very helpful. And then on the traffic improvement you saw in November (technical difficulty) pretty meaningful, we can all kind of do the math. I mean, is there anything in particular you attribute November to or, in hindsight, that you attribute prior two months to be in a little bit than November?

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • (interpreted) We wouldn't attribute the acceleration in traffic in November, largely for our new rewards program. We're very pleased with its capabilities. Part of it was in November, we were just making a push to migrate more of our existing users a final push, and so we had a promotion around that. In December, we started a promotion where this is the first time we've ever done this and something that we could only do because we have a rewards program that could track this kind of thing, where we made an offer where if you come twice in December, you get a 20% off coupon for January.

  • And so that leaves very good for driving tracking traffic in December. And obviously, it's going to be a topic driver in January, as well when people come to redeem that coupon.

  • Sharon Zackfia - Analyst

  • The robotic dishwasher, which I know we're all very excited about (technical difficulty) in the spring, I'm just wondering if that's still on plan and went really well. What could we look at the timeframe look like for a rollout into new units going forward?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Yeah, we are still on pace for a test in spring. I'm very much looking forward to it. I'd say the technology is largely ready, it's just a matter of getting it battle-tested. It's a little bit tricky to go from the prototype to the mass produce model, just given that there are some material changes. And so I think it's safe to assume that it's going to be at least 12 months from when the mass produce model is finalized.

  • At that point, I can get the actual parts list and bring it to the regulatory organizations. But that's a pretty opaque process. And so it would probably be 12 months minimum from testing. And then it would just be the timing for which stores we can get out but plan ahead in terms of a layout to accommodate robot dishwasher.

  • Sharon Zackfia - Analyst

  • Thank you and happy new year.

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Thank you. Happy New Year. Thanks, Sharon.

  • Operator

  • Jeffrey Bernstein, Barclays.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Great, thank you very much. A couple of questions on the comp trend. The first one, I think for the fiscal quarter, you did it [three eight], and I think you said the pricing was nine and the traffic, if I heard right, was a 3.3. So that would imply, I guess, a negative eight or so mix and I think you said the plates were flat.

  • So I guess it sounds like an ongoing maybe non sushi check management. I'm just wondering how you think about that negative offset whether you see that as a concern or whether that concern is abating that missing component of presumably the meaningfully negative mix shift, how you think about that?

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • (interpreted) So in terms of the negative mix, it's certainly there, but we don't really think of it as a concern. Our focus remains traffic. Our marketing is geared around that. Our overall strategy is geared around that. We think that's the hardest part, and really, where we shine brightest, especially in comparison to our peers.

  • In terms of average check management, we think that that actually as a unique feature for guests that comes from our service model. Guests can come in no matter what their budget is. We never price people out, and that's one of the reasons that our traffic soon so strongly. But in spite of that mix pressure, our restaurant-level operating profit margin is 19.5%, a meaningful improvement over the 18.2% last year. And so our thought, again, is traffic is our focus. We can leverage our fixed costs against traffic. And that's that gets us the margins that we like.

  • That being said, of course, we love it when our guests do have greater attachment, side menu items, et cetera. And so we do have some promotional campaigns in the pipeline that are geared towards improving guest spend.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Understood. And then as we as we look forward, I think I piece together from an outlook perspective on comps based on the September October, it seems like the November was roughly a 6%. And I guess if the pricing was similar, for sure that's a nice uptick. So I'm just wondering what I wanted to confirm that was right.

  • And then and on December, I thought you said you were really pleased. I wasn't sure if that was a reference to the overall comp or how we should just think about the outlook, whether or not fair to assume a mid single digit type comp sustains with still positive traffic and the pricing in that 3% range. I'm just trying to figure out the outlook first on the December and then what we should be thinking about for the rest of the year based on those components.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • (interpreted) So, yeah, in terms of the November coming in at about 6%, your math is right there. Looking at December, we did lap at 7% pricing in the first week. But as we said, we were very pleased with our traffic performance, our overall comp performance. We're confident that with our ongoing traffic strength, our marketing efforts, the IP pipeline that we have, many development, that we'll be able to maintain this very strong momentum through the remainder of the fiscal year. We're very happy.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Understood. Now that's encouraging despite, I guess, concerns of a slowing consumer. So good to hear. My last question was just on the cost side of things. Just a clarification, I think you said the commodities were 4% deflation in the first quarter. I'm just wondering what the labor was for the first quarter and maybe the expectation for each of those for full year fiscal '24?

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • (interpreted) In terms of labor, we have seen about mid-single digits in inflation year-over-year. But we are overcoming 30-basis-points below the prior year, 31.6% against last year's 31.9%. And so we're feeling that the operational efforts that we've made the as well as the pricing that we've taken all come into play there. And we're very pleased that we were able to not just stay flat, but actually improve our wafer margins.

  • Benjamin Porten - SVP of IR and System Development

  • (multiple speakers) From quarter one of fiscal '23 to this year Q1, it was about 4% deflation. And then sequentially, from Q4 of this past fiscal year one, it was about 2%.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • And just to clarify, Ben, did you say I mean, I know depending on how we look at restaurant margins, it varies. But based on your calculation, it was 130-basis-points of expansion. But you said you expect the restaurant margins flat in fiscal '24 with the 3% price for the rest of the year, or are you referring to the labor line? I think that prior question was asking about labor.

  • But I thought you had mentioned that you were comfortable with restaurant margins flat. So just wanted to clarify if you have any kind of forward-looking thoughts on the remaining three quarters from an overall margin perspective? Thank you.

  • Benjamin Porten - SVP of IR and System Development

  • Yeah, if you look at our historical margin, they tend to lever pretty meaningfully every quarter. And so you can just assume that the same as historically, they're going to continue to improve as we have greater traffic and greater sales that we can leverage against our fixed costs. The comment about the 3% pricing that we took we thought was enough to offset not just our labor costs are we've got a COGS tailwind. We do have some other costs, general inflation, but the 3% that we felt was enough to pretty much offset all of those inflationary pressures.

  • And on the all add to, Jeff, on the restaurant-level operating profit as a percentage of sales, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we had 130-basis-points of leverage there, from 18.2 to 19.5. So with a lot of tailwinds our pricing, the commodity deflation, the easing of labor inflation. So the tailwinds have been great this past quarter, and we fully expect that continue for the remainder of the year.

  • Jeffrey Bernstein - Analyst

  • Sounds great. Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Jon tower, CITI group.

  • Jon Tower - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Just a few, if I may, and I apologize if you might have hit this earlier at our time here and some stuff. But on the loyalty program, I'm curious how have registrations hit versus your own expectations? And how is it? It seems as if, per Ben's comments earlier at least around the promotion of in December where you can come in twice and get 20% off in January.

  • What I don't know if that was only reserved for loyalty members or not, but and how is this working overall the loyalty program to drive frequency ticket and or frankly, any customer insights that you might not have had previously?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Yeah, obviously, generally speaking, whenever you're talking about a promotion, you can assume that it's limited to our rewards members on. I don't know if you recall on the last earnings call this November -- our rewards program, and that's been out for a couple of weeks. And we mentioned that the registration rate has doubled as compared to the prior program. We assume that would level off that that was due to the initial excitement.

  • But I'm not sure if you heard in today's call, because the audio is a little bit garbled but the registration has actually tripled in comparison to the last program. So it hasn't leveled off, it's actually accelerated. So I think it's very fair to say that it's it's far exceeded our expectations. We're very pleased with it. I think it's still a little bit premature to be discussing guest insights, but engagement is great. The things that we can do, the kind of campaigns that we can deploy are at a completely different level. Certainly, the next earnings call, we'll have a lot of good news that we'll be able to share with you.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • (interpreted) That twice price in December to get that 20% off in January that's slipped only to rewards members. In fact, the improved rewards platform is what enabled us to use that to actually do that for the first time.

  • Jon Tower - Analyst

  • Got it. Thank you. And just I know last quarter you'd also discuss the idea about communicating some of the upgrades on the waitlist system and or kind of rolled out cellphone ordering at the table to consumers as a potential lever. Did you guys push that during the quarter at all? And if so, what was the uptake of either?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Yeah, in terms of the waitlist app, so guest attrition has dropped from 25% to below 20%, a very meaningful improvement. We're very, very happy with it. We think it's one of the reasons that our traffic is continuing to improve. In terms of the mobile phone ordering, that is still limited to two restaurants, we're going to start -- the testing is complete.

  • Really, I think the biggest factors that we've had some trouble figuring out exactly what to name it. When we when we have a button called mobile ordering or I think our guests are assuming it's like a takeout button, and so we're changing into smartphone ordering, which I think is a clear explanation of exactly what it can do. And for people that are I'm new to this on the call, this program allows you to use your cell phone to place orders as well, which doesn't sound very exciting until you've been at a restaurant with a party of four more and you're sitting on the outside and you can order from the panel and you don't want to reach over people and grab stuff.

  • We're very excited about this, especially in terms of mix. We think it's a meaningful opportunity for side menu attachment rates to go up. And so, yeah, that's the rollout is starting in January. And it's going to be on a rolling basis. It should be -- my expectation is that it will be done in the next few quarters, hopefully next quarter.

  • Jon Tower - Analyst

  • Got it. Thank you. And then just, I guess a follow-up on the US TAM, I know you've previously talked about the idea of getting to about 300 stores and it seems like new store productivity volumes and certainly traffic all seem to indicate that your brand is resonating particularly well with consumers, despite whatever the macro had been doing over the past 24 months, and obviously, prior to that as well. So I'm curious if and when you guys think about that number. It appears dated at the moment. Do you guys have any more thoughts on where that should go over time?

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • (interpreted) So it still remains a topic of discussion, in terms of when we're going to commission the new whitespace study. Obviously, we know that people are excited for that. And so we're excited to share that with the street whenever we do decide to commission the whitespace study. We've communicated many times in the past that the 300 units that we initially gave at the time the IPO, we think is conservative, not just because it was a conservative number to begin with, but because of the market fragmentation and the sheer number of restaurant closures in the Japanese segment as a result of COVID.

  • We think that's fundamentally changed our opportunity in the United States. But again, as you mentioned, we're rolling along. We've got 56 units inside the initial 300. And so we're not in a rush necessarily. We don't see a need to see how everybody hundreds of units into the future. But I don't think anybody, certainly not anybody on this call, expects 300 to be our ceiling.

  • Jon Tower - Analyst

  • Got it. Thank you for taking the questions.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • Of course, thank you.

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Thank you, Jon.

  • Operator

  • Todd Brooks, Benchmark Company.

  • Todd Brooks - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks for taking my question. Just a couple left here. Jeff, on the other cost line, given the success in accelerating the opening pipeline, is it safe to take the end of Q1 level of spend, and then obviously apply low leverage as volumes increase in the back half? But how should we be thinking about that level of spend as we got forward to the year?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • That's exactly how you should think about, Todd. We're going to continue our opening pace. As you know, we raised the guidance to 12 to 14 units. So we're going to continue to open units as quickly as we can. So we're going to continue to see those large preopening expenses, and that's really what impacted other costs, the most throughout the quarter was the preopening expenses associated with opening these restaurants.

  • As you know, a lot of restaurant companies in the past, have broken out preopening expenses as a separate line item on the financials. Let's just look down upon now, so we don't do that. But you can see what our preopening expenses were and our adjusted EBITDA reconciliation in the queue. So as we continue to open restaurants and we have more top line revenue to get the leverage, you're thinking about it exactly right: it's going to leverage a little bit, but they're still going to remain elevated.

  • I wouldn't take to think about a lot of leverage going forward necessarily this year on the preopening costs. But as we get through the year, you will get some, and again, next year, more next year. Similar to G&A, really, as how I'm thinking about it. Because unless we start opening 50 stores sometime, we're going to we're going to continue to have enough stores where that additional revenue from the stores we have opened will significantly offset that.

  • But right now, it is giving us some higher costs in the other cost line. And in the labor line as well. Our preopening costs are sprinkled throughout our P&L. They're not stuck in just one line, there are it's in labor, it's an occupancy. That's another reason the occupancy was high, too. Nobody asked about occupancy yet, but we have to start booking rent expense on restaurants when we take possession of the building.

  • So when it takes four or five months to build the restaurant, we're having non-cash rent expense hit our books. And because of the accelerated openings, that's why you see our occupancy line a little bit higher than I think some people expected it to be this quarter as well. But it's a good thing. We're opening restaurants and they're going to start pushing for revenue and make profits, and we're excited to see this happening.

  • Todd Brooks - Analyst

  • That's very helpful. Thanks, Jeff. And I agree that if it's tied to accelerate unit openings that's a great thing. I'll just one follow-up there and then I'll hop back in the queue, within the other expense you talked about marketing costs being up. Is this just pre-opening marketing for new units or is there something that you're doing additionally on the marketing side that would bump that cost line up?

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • (interpreted) So in some context, last year in December, we started investing in targeted marketing search engine optimization with Google across its channels. It's been exceptionally. It's been very cost effective, and we're very happy with it, which is why we've kept it as part of our marketing suite.

  • But so this is really just a year-over-year comparison given that we started in on December. This was the first and last Q1 where we didn't have that cost last year. As of Q2, we're going to be doing an apples to apples comparison. So it's not like we started something new in Q1. This is really just the tail of the year-over-year comparison.

  • Todd Brooks - Analyst

  • Perfect. Thank you, both.

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Thank you.

  • Benjamin Porten - SVP of IR and System Development

  • Thank you, Todd.

  • Operator

  • George Kelly, Roth Capital Partners.

  • George Kelly - Analyst

  • Hey, everyone, thanks for taking my question here. So it was twice just been asked, but I'm just one last one for you related to CapEx. And I was curious what's a good sort of percentage of sales to use just generally for maintenance CapEx? I know it's [2.5] per restaurant, but wondering about maintenance CapEx. And if we look back over the last year or two, has there been a post COVID catch up on some maintenance CapEx. Just curious if there's been anything sort of not normal in the more recent periods?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • So a couple of things, George. So we're maintenance CapEx we've said in the past, it runs about $100,000 per rep. Once the restaurant is opened, your ongoing maintenance stuff that we're capitalizing. And in terms of catch up there, not necessarily so much of a catch-up.

  • But when you look at our depreciation line on the P&L, what you're seeing is a lot of accelerated depreciation in there because we've done several remodels. We changed our logo sometime before I joined the company, but we haven't changed the sign. It yet. So we're changing a lot of our signing to the new logo. And when we make that decision and we have a date for when that time is coming down, we have to accelerate the depreciation.

  • We also have a lot of protective equipment that we have in the restaurants for COVID that we've kept on the books just so we made sure the COVID emergency is over and now that, so are we have to write those off as well. So there are some it's several unusual things hitting our depreciation lines, but that's how I think you should look at it like that [100 gram] as well for us for maintenance CapEx.

  • George Kelly - Analyst

  • Okay. So that's good. That's all I had. Thank you.

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Thanks, George.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • You're welcome.

  • Operator

  • Mark Smith, Lake Street Capital.

  • Mark Smith - Analyst

  • Hi, guys, similarly, I think most questions have been asked here, but just one for me. As we look at G&A, there's a little bit of a litigation accrual. Did that fall in there and was there anything else that was one-time-ish? It looks like you're expecting some pretty good leverage there. Just wanted to see if there's anything else that was maybe one-time-ish in nature?

  • Jeff Uttz - CFO

  • Yes, the litigation accrual [205,000] was the biggest one-time fees. And if you back that out, the number almost exactly where we expected it to come out for the quarter. The things that you're going to see going forward for the rest of the year. And we if you look at our guidance, we're projecting about 50-basis-points of leverage when we had 80-basis-points last year.

  • And the reason we're not expecting as much leverage this year is this is our first year because this is our sixth year as a public company, which means that we now have to be 404b compliant, which has created quite a bit of additional auditor costs and some consulting costs to make sure that we are completely 404b compliant when we need to be. So the additional public company costs create a little bit of a headwind there. But you know what? 80 last year plus 50 this year, 130 bps over two years is pretty good.

  • Mark Smith - Analyst

  • Excellent. Thank you.

  • Jimmy Uba - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Mark.

  • Mark Smith - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. And with that, this will conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

  • Editor^ Portions of this transcript that are marked (interpreted) were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call. The interpreter was provided by the company sponsoring this event.