Kennametal Inc (KMT) 2024 Q1 法說會逐字稿

Good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to Kennametal's First Quarter Fiscal 2024 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, that this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Pici, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Thank you, operator. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review Kennametal's first quarter fiscal 2024 results. This morning, we issued our earnings press release and posted our presentation slides on our website. We will be referring to that slide deck during today's call.

I'm Michael Pici, Vice President of Investor Relations. Joining me on the call today are Christopher Rossi, President and Chief Executive Officer; Pat Watson, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Sanjay Chowbey, Vice President and President Metal Cutting and Franklin Cardenas, Vice President and President of Infrastructure. After Chris and Pat's prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions.

At this time, I'd like to direct your attention to our forward-looking disclosure statement. Today's discussion contains comments that constitute forward-looking statements and as such, involve a number of assumptions, risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by such statements. These risk factors and uncertainties are detailed in Kennametal's SEC filings.

In addition, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial measures on the call today. Reconciliations to GAAP financial measures, that we believe are most directly comparable can be found at the back of the slide deck and on our Form 8-K on our website.

And with that, I'll turn the call over to you, Chris.

Thanks, Mike. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I'll start the call today with a review of the quarter and some end market commentary, as well as an example of the industry-leading innovation we're bringing to market. Then Pat will cover the quarterly financial results and the fiscal year '24 outlook.

Finally, I'll make some summary comments at the end and then open the call for questions. Beginning on Slide 3. For the quarter, sales were flat year-over-year with flat organic growth and no meaningful effect from the net of negative workdays and positive foreign currency. Price realization was offset by anticipated seasonal volume declines. At the segment level, metal cutting grew 2% organically and infrastructure declined 3%. On a constant currency basis, EMEA posted 8% growth, driven primarily by Aerospace and Defense, General Engineering and Transportation. Americas declined 3%, mainly driven by Energy and General Engineering. Asia Pacific declined 8%, driven by General Engineering, Transportation and Energy, and reflects year-over-year and sequential declines in China.

By end market, Aerospace and Defense reported 17% growth, Energy declined 12%, General engineering declined 1%, Transportation declined 1% and Earthworks was flat. This performance was largely as expected, with declines in General Engineering, oil and gas and in the latter part of the quarter, China. Sequentially, as expected, Q1 sales declined 10%, which is below our historical average of approximately 8%, but generally in line with the 10% decline from the midpoint of our outlook. However, China was lower than anticipated.

Now let me take a moment to provide some color on the end market conditions that led to the year-over-year decline in sales. In Aerospace and Defense, we once again reported strong year-over-year growth of 17%. Metal Cutting benefited from continued execution of our growth initiatives and continued strength in Aerospace. And Infrastructure growth was driven by Defense order timing. General Engineering declined 1% versus prior year with Metal Cutting growth in the Americas and EMEA, offset by declines in Infrastructure.

Asia Pacific declined in both segments due to China. Transportation declined 1% this quarter, with a decline in Asia Pacific, due to lower demand in China and a slight decline in the Americas, partially offset by strong EMEA performance, which was driven by continued supply chain easing and new EV project wins, further improving our position in the hybrid and electric vehicle market. Our Transportation results this quarter were not affected by the labor dispute between the UAW and the big 3 U.S. automakers. Energy declined 12%, driven by the lower year-over-year U.S. land-based rig counts and continued customer inventory adjustments and Earthworks was flat during the quarter.

Turning now to profitability. As mentioned earlier, price was offset by volume and product mix and the pricing actions taken in both business segments substantially covered all forms of inflation on a dollar basis. Metal Cuttings adjusted operating margins increased 170 basis points year-over-year, driven by improved price realization, operational excess productivity initiatives and restructuring savings. As anticipated, Infrastructure's operating margins were a headwind in the quarter.

The year-over-year operating margin decline was driven by unfavorable price raw material cost timing and product mix, offset by restructuring benefits and operational excellence productivity improvements. Adjusted EPS increased to $0.41 compared to $0.34 in the prior year quarter. Cash from operating activities increased significantly to $26 million from negative $11 million in the prior year quarter, driven mainly by lower inventory levels. And finally, we continue to repurchase shares this quarter with $14 million of shares bought back, bringing the total amount of repurchased since the beginning of the program to $148 million. Our share repurchase program reflects the confidence we have in executing our strategic initiatives for long-term value creation, despite quarterly macroeconomic headwinds and uncertainties.

Turning to Slide 4. I want to take a moment to provide some additional commentary on our end markets for the full year. As we talked about on our last call, there were several drivers for our expected second half growth acceleration. And despite continued uncertainty, these drivers remain intact. Overall, U.S. land-based rig counts are still forecasted to increase slightly during the second half of the year. In addition, public commentary from oilfield service customers indicate that they expect their North American revenues to grow in calendar year '24.

General Engineering is expected to improve in the second half of fiscal year '24, as ISI's EMEA IPI's forecast indicates gradual improvement starting in calendar year '24. And in the U.S., according to the National Association of Manufacturers Survey, manufacturing production is expected to grow 2% through September of 2024. Additionally, we're also encouraged by the latest S&P Global Flash U.S. PMI data which shows an improvement from 47 in August to 50 in October.

Earthworks is anticipated to improve during the second half of the year, in line with normal seasonality. And we continue to make progress on our growth initiatives to expand into underserved applications. For example, I want to highlight a win in infrastructure that demonstrates our focus on gaining share in underserved mining applications, which we discussed at our last Investor Day. Recently, the team secured an order for our KenCast Wear Protection Solution, which typically is applied to coal mining applications to reduce maintenance downtime. This particular win, however, was for a gold mining customer in Brazil. This demonstrates our ability to leverage our existing solution portfolio to expand into new applications.

In Transportation, per IHS, light vehicle production is projected to grow globally low single digits in the second half of fiscal year '24. And we anticipate Aerospace and Defense to continue its strong performance in both segments during the second half. Aircraft build rates still remain below pre-pandemic levels and major OEMs are continuing to project second half build rates to increase over the first half of our fiscal year. And our strategic focus continues in this end market to drive share gain. As it relates to China, we're optimistic that we'll experience improvement, as the PMI indices are approaching 50. So that's a bottom-up view of the drivers for an improving end market environment in the second half. We know, of course, that there are an increasing number of risk factors that could affect our end markets. And as always, we'll be monitoring the end market conditions and will adjust if conditions differ from our expectations.

Now on Slide 5, I'd like to highlight an example of our innovation advantage. This slide shows our latest HARVI VI end mill for Metal Cutting. Notably, this end mill is used in applications with difficult-to-machine materials, such as titanium, high-temperature alloys and stainless steel. These applications across all end markets, including engine and suspension parts in Aerospace and surgical cutting guides for use in medical applications. The value proposition for customers is a lower cost of ownership including 400% longer tool life and 40% higher metal removal rates.

Now let me turn the call over to Pat, who will review the first quarter financial performance and the outlook.

Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I will begin on Slide 6 with a review of Q1 operating results. The quarter's results show that we continue to execute our initiatives in the face of challenging market conditions.

Sales were flat year-over-year, with flat organic growth and no meaningful effect from Workdays or foreign exchange. As Chris pointed out, we performed as expected in our outlook, but for the lack of recovery in China. The decline in China pressured both segments but had a much larger effect on Metal Cutting and sales in several end markets in the Asia Pacific region. Once again, price remains a key strategic lever, as we price for value and offset cost inflation. From a sales perspective, favorable price mitigated the lower volumes, we experienced this quarter. Operating expense, as a percentage of sales increased 80 basis points year-over-year to 22.7%, as a result of wage inflation and the effects of foreign exchange, partially offset by our savings from our restructuring program.

Adjusted EBITDA and operating margins were 16.6% and 9.9%, respectively, versus 15.9% and 9.8% in the prior year quarter. As in prior quarters, higher pricing offset higher raw material, wage and general inflation in the quarter on a dollar basis. Additionally, during the quarter, we realized approximately $4 million in savings from the restructuring program we started in June and we remain on pace to achieve our stated run rate savings of $20 million annually by the end of FY '24.

Our results this quarter include a $5 million headwind from pricing ahead of raw material costs in the prior year. The adjusted effective tax rate decreased year-over-year to 21% primarily due to a benefit of approximately $6 million from a onetime tax item, which was expected, partially offset by a settlement related to tax litigation in Italy of approximately $3 million. Adjusted earnings per share were $0.41 in the quarter, versus EPS of $0.34 in the prior year period.

The main drivers of our EPS performance are highlighted on the bridge on Slide 7. The year-over-year effect of operations this quarter was neutral. This reflects price, operational excellence initiatives and restructuring savings offsetting lower volumes, higher raw material costs and wage and general inflation headwinds. You can also clearly see the effects of the lower tax rate, which reflects the onetime benefit and the Italian tax settlement of $0.05 in total. Foreign exchange and a lower share count contributed $0.01 each. There was no material change in pension income compared to last year, and our U.S. pension plan remains overfunded.

Slides 8 and 9 detail the performance of our segments this quarter. Reported Metal Cutting sales were up compared to the prior year quarter with 2% organic growth and a favorable foreign exchange effect of 1%. This marks the fourth consecutive quarter, where we have demonstrated growth that outperformed the market, when compared to select peers on a constant currency basis.

We achieved growth in EMEA and the Americas with Asia Pacific declining due to China. The Transportation and Energy end markets performance on a constant currency basis was also the result of the slowdown in China. By region, EMEA led at 8%, followed by the Americas of 3%, while Asia Pacific was negative 13%. EMEA's year-over-year performance reflects growth driven by general engineering and OEM supply chain improvements and EV wins in Transportation. Americas year-over-year growth this quarter was driven by the execution of our growth initiatives in Aerospace and Defense and the General Engineering end market. Asia Pacific's decline, as Chris noted, was primarily from market conditions in China included lower auto build rates.

Looking at sales by end market. Aerospace and Defense grew 7% as our strategic initiatives continue to drive results in this end market. General Engineering grew 1% with the strongest growth in EMEA and the Americas partially offset by market softness in China. Energy declined 3% this quarter, driven by the Asia Pacific region due to lower activity in wind energy. And lastly, Transportation declined 1% year-over-year with improving customer supply chains in EMEA, more than offset by weaker conditions in Asia Pacific. As Chris noted earlier, we did not experience any effect this quarter from the UAW strike.

Metal Cutting took a meaningful step forward in profitability this quarter, while operating in a weak volume environment with adjusted operating margin increasing 170 basis points year-over-year. Adjusted operating margin improvement was due to higher price realization, operational efficiencies and restructuring savings. These factors are partially offset by higher wages, general inflation and lower sales volumes.

Turning to Slide 9 for Infrastructure. Reported infrastructure sales were down year-over-year, due to an organic sales decline of 3%, with foreign exchange headwinds and unfavorable business days contributing negative 1% each. Regionally, EMEA grew 11%, Asia Pacific was flat and Americas sales declined by 10%. Looking at the sales by end market on a constant currency basis, Energy declined 17% and mainly in Americas due to lower U.S. land rig counts and destocking of inventory at our customers. We expect this to continue into the second quarter.

But as Chris noted earlier, customer feedback is indicating a recovery in the second half of our fiscal year. General Engineering declined 8%, due to softer market conditions across all regions. And Earthworks was flat with underground mining growth offset by lower construction volume in the Americas.

Lastly, Aerospace and Defense increased 67% due to Defense order timing when compared to the prior year. Adjusted operating margin declined year-over-year to 8%, primarily from 2 factors: first, lower sales volume, primarily in the Energy and General Engineering end markets in the Americas. The second significant factor affecting the margin this quarter was higher raw material costs, compared to the prior year, which benefited from price raw material cost capability that did not repeat, in addition to higher wages and general inflation. These headwinds were partially offset by operational excellence initiatives.

Now turning to Slide 10, to review our free operating cash flow and balance sheet. Our first quarter cash from operating activities was $26 million, up from negative $11 million in the prior year. Our free operating cash flow increased to negative $3 million from negative $40 million in the prior year quarter, a significant improvement year-over-year.

Primary working capital this quarter was flat to the prior year. The company continues to focus on optimizing inventory levels and remains focused on driving improved working capital. On a percentage of sales basis, primary working capital increased to 32.7%. Net capital expenditures were flat at $29 million, compared to the prior year quarter. In total, we returned $30 million to shareholders through our share repurchase and dividend programs.

We repurchased $14 million of shares in Q1 for a total of $148 million or 5 million shares, representing approximately 7% of outstanding shares, since the inception of the program. And as we have every quarter since becoming a public company over 50 years ago, we paid a dividend to our shareholders. Our commitment to returning cash to shareholders reflects our confidence in our ability to execute our strategy to drive growth and margin improvement. We continue to maintain a healthy balance sheet and debt maturity profile. At quarter end, we had combined cash and revolver availability of approximately $772 million and we're well within our financial covenants. The full balance sheet can be found on Slide 17 in the appendix.

Turning to Slide 11 regarding the second quarter outlook. We expect Q2 sales to be between $490 million and $515 million, with volume ranging from negative 5% to flat. Price realization of approximately 3% and we expect foreign exchange to be about a 1% tailwind. Let me share some detail on the sales assumptions and trends in the Q2 outlook. Our Q2 range at the midpoint reflects growth that is generally in line with our historical norms.

On a year-over-year basis, Aerospace and Defense growth continues, Energy declines due to inventory destocking continuing, General Engineering declined slightly but will remain at a similar level to Q1, Transportation increases, however, generally flat with Q1, as we monitor the lingering UAW FX in North America, Earthworks experience is modest growth, and we anticipate a slight improvement in China. Encouragingly, in China, we began to see order intake improving late in Q1. We expect the sequential price raw material headwind of approximately $13 million compared to Q1. This headwind will primarily affect Infrastructure and to slightly more than the previous estimate due to some favorability timing experienced in Q1. Foreign exchange is expected to be neutral on an operating income basis. We expect adjusted EPS in the range of $0.20 to $0.30.

Turning to Slide 12 regarding the full year outlook. For the full year, we are maintaining our outlook as we continue to expect growth to accelerate, as the year progresses. With the second half outpacing the first half. We continue to expect FY '24 sales to be between $2.1 billion and $2.2 billion, with volume ranging from negative 2% to positive 3%, net price realization of approximately 3%, with our inflationary pricing actions, partially offset by lower prices for customers with index pricing.

Aerospace and Defense volume remains strong. Earthworks and Transportation increased slightly and we anticipate General Engineering and Energy to be flat. From a cost perspective, we expect the current inflationary environment to persist, but it is assumed to moderate. We expect to offset raw material, wage and general cost increases on a dollar basis. Assuming the pricing level for tungsten remains constant in the second half of fiscal '24, we will begin to see a benefit from lower material costs in the fourth quarter. This will largely affect our Infrastructure segment.

Foreign exchange and noncash pension income is expected to be neutral on an operating income basis. Approximately $15 million of savings from our previously announced restructuring initiative has been included. We remain on target to achieve an annualized run rate of approximately $20 million at the end of FY '24. And we expect interest expense of approximately $28 million, an effective tax rate of approximately 24% for the full year. We expect adjusted EPS in the range of $1.75 to $2.15. On the cash side, the full year outlook for capital expenditures is $100 million to $110 million, and the outlook for primary working capital is between 30% and 32%. Taken together, we continue to expect free operating cash flow at approximately 100% of adjusted net income, in line with our long-term target.

And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Chris.

Thank you, Pat. Turning to Slide 13. Let me take a few minutes to summarize. Overall, although the operating environment continues to be challenging, we remain focused on executing our strategic initiatives to drive long-term value. For example, Metal Cutting delivered a fourth consecutive quarter of above-market growth, when compared to select peers.

Also, our operational excellence initiatives contributed to driving improved margins in Metal Cutting, despite lower volumes. And an Infrastructure to mitigate the market-driven volume declines we experienced. These results give us confidence in our ability to drive above-market growth through our innovation advantage and commercial excellence initiatives and to extract even greater operational efficiency from our modernized plants, as part of the $100 million cost out margin expansion plan, we discussed at Investor Day.

And with that, operator, please open the line for questions.

(Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Julian Mitchell from Barclays.

Maybe -- just wanted to start with the second quarter guide. So I think before you talked about Q2 looking very similar to Q1 and then now we have this decent sized sequential step down in EPS. So there's a lot of that to do with the Infrastructure margin assumption changing? And I just wanted to understand, when we think about that full year guide, are we sort of thinking Infrastructure margins are low to mid-single digit in Q2. And then ending the year at sort of low double digit, helped by the material cost tailwind you just mentioned.

Yes, Julian. So yes, a couple of things. Just in terms of thinking about Q2, and then Patrick will just talk through Infrastructure here for the year. Absolutely, as we think about the margin progression throughout the year, Q2 is going to be our trough, and that's really driven by what is happening from a material cost perspective. I think as we thought about Q2, I would say, 90 days ago, I thought about that material headwind being around $10 million, our current estimate for that. So it's around $13 million, as we talked about in the prepared remarks.

And that primarily will affect Infrastructure. Progression of margin there as we get through the back half of the year, will come up for both segments. And we'll see that not only from a volume perspective, at the midpoint as we move throughout the year. But also as long as those material costs hold at the current tungsten price level, we will see that flip to a tailwind for us by the time we get out to Q4.

That's helpful. And then just my second question is around the, I suppose, General Engineering segment and also Earthworks. So General Engineering, maybe help us understand sort of what gets better there in the second half? I realize it's tricky given it's called general. It can be part to be specific, but any impression of kind of regionally, what you expect to get better in the back half. And then for Earthworks, you've talked about a sort of flattish 2024 sales. I think a lot of other companies get excited about stimulus and so on in the U.S. next year. Just wondered what your perspective on that was vis-a-vis the Earthworks market?

Yes, Julian, I think from a Gen Eng perspective, I went through a number of sort of the bottoms-up metrics that would drive that. So we largely touched on the European IPI, which is expected to improve in the second half of our year.

And the National Association of Manufacturers sentiment for growth in the U.S. industrial base is also expected to grow. And that was 90 days ago, those metrics were exactly the same. So that's the basis of why we think Gen Eng is going to improve. China is also a situation where, as Pat talked about, it was weaker than we thought in Q1 because we were expecting this improvement to start in Q1, but it's looking like now that's moving out to Q2. And we were encouraged in the latter part of September that our order intake started to increase. We started to see that.

And in fact, I'll tell you, in October, it met our expectations in terms of our outlook for Q2. So there's some positive momentum there on that side. And then also Gen Eng is also affected by Transportation and light vehicle production, first half versus second half is still expected to increase. So those would be the big drivers there.

I think from an Earthworks perspective, if you remember, last year, Q4, our road milling business was actually below what we would normally expect. And talking to our customers, the main driver for that was that they only had -- so the municipalities only having so much budget to spend, and they had to reduce the number of road milling miles because of inflation and the costs associated with road milling was up so significantly, they could -- they had to limit the number of road milling miles. And so this year, we expect to see actually greater than seasonal growth, in particular, in Q4 for Earthworks because our feeling is that the -- to your point, via the Infrastructure bill, is that a lot of those municipal budgets have been replenished or certainly backstopped by some funding from the Infrastructure bill.

The next question comes from Tami Zakaria from JPMorgan.

And good quarter. So on Aerospace and Defense, another very impressive growth quarter. Can you remind us where you are in terms of volume in that segment versus pre-COVID levels?

Yes. The production rates are still below pre-Covid levels. I don't know, Mike, if we have that specific statistic, but we definitely see, I think the other thing is, Tami, is that Airbus and Boeing and the other OEMs are still projecting the second half production pace to actually increase. Now there is still -- they're still experiencing some supply chain delays that are kind of limiting that. So I don't know that they get back to pre pandemic levels this year. I think they're still below by what, Mike, what is it?

That 10 or so percent and you've got 17% growth in the second half build rates based on the OEMs.

Got it. Got it. That's helpful. And then just on Energy, I know you spent some time talking about it. And you said in the second quarter, you expect a slight decline as destocking continues. Stepping back, what do you think is driving this weakness? Any specific categories within Energy, you're seeing the softness? And do you see sort of like light at the end of the tunnel, where you think after 2Q, it's going to be largely done? Or do you think it can linger a little bit longer?

Yes. I think, Tami, the big driver for our particular business is the U.S. land-based rig count. And that has been -- that has stepped down significantly year-over-year and declined sequentially in Q1 also. So from Q4 to Q1. Now the other thing that was happening simultaneous to that is that as supply chains began to mitigate the oilfield service companies started to reduce their safety stock inventories. So, we've been talking about that for a number of quarters. We do talk to the customers every quarter, and they have now -- they now think that, that sort of inventory reduction is behind us in Q2. And they're optimistic that, that will start to recover in the second half of our year.

The other thing that I would say, Tami, with some of the oilfield service customers is that, when they go through this destocking effort, it's not uncommon that they overdo it and there is a pickup on the back end, where they have to do some recovery because they may be under understocking. That can be a typical scenario that happens.

The next question comes from Mike Feniger from Bank of America.

Just with the pricing guidance of plus 3, I believe this quarter, you probably did something similar to that number. Just to get to that full year number, just help us -- do you have to put in price increases in Q2 or in the back half to achieve that full year? Is that kind of already set based on your contracts and whatever you have in the backlog? Just curious if you kind of help us understand the cadence of that and to achieve that full year number.

Yes. So I think, Mike, the way to think about that pricing, 2 things. Number one, we price for value, and we do that all the time. And in particular, when we think about the custom solutions portfolios, in both businesses, the things we get to quote live, we get to adjust those prices. I'll say, relatively dynamically. The other thing just to think about here as we think about the pricing for FY '24, is we did put some price into selected markets here in the first quarter. And so those actions are underway, and they will benefit us, obviously, throughout the entire fiscal year.

Helpful. And just my second question, the follow-up is just, I'm curious, you talked about oilfield services, the destocking there, and that seems like that, that's ended. I'm just curious what you're seeing with your General Engineering, some of those customers, are there destocking you're seeing there on the rise and other inventories, you feel like okay? And then maybe just if you could touch on your own inventories, you guys have been working through that. I'm just curious how we should kind of think about that through the rest of the year?

Okay, Mike. So in terms of General Engineering, as we've talked about coming out of this pandemic recovery, our distributors and our customers seems to me have been fairly disciplined about not getting out over their skis, in terms of adding inventory. So we -- so normally, when there's a recovery in these type of markets, in particular in Gen Eng, there is a restocking that happens. And we really did not see a strong restocking. We saw a lot of caution.

And where the restocking happened was in areas to support customers like Aerospace, where clearly the growth was there. So consequently, as things have softened around the globe in terms of general industrial production, we really haven't seen any destocking because in -- my theory is that really -- they never really got over the ski. So that's still our view is that we're not seeing significant destocking other than what we talked about in oil and gas. And then I think you had a question on our particular inventory situation, which I'll let Pat take.

Yes. As you think about the inventory, I reflect back on the primary working capital outlook, we've got out there, it really implies that we'll get some improvement in working capital, as we get throughout the year. That's really that improvement is going to be driven primarily at this point in time from our inventory position. As we talked about at Investor Day, this is going to be one of the areas of focus for us on an ongoing basis, we think we have opportunity to improve our working capital efficiency.

The next question comes from Chris Dankert from Loop.

Wondering if you could kind of help us triangulate what the impact of operational excellence was in the quarter. I know it's a lot of factors, but it seems like that was the majority of the metalworking operating income improvement. Is that correct? And if you could just kind of give us some signposts or what the impact was?

Yes. I think -- as we think about Metal Cutting, there absolutely was an improvement, I'll say, an overall efficiency in Metal Cutting. And we think about the drivers in terms of what's going on from a margin perspective. Certainly, I would say, overall, they had a little bit of headwind from a -- excuse me, a tailwind from FX. Obviously, a little bit of a tailwind from the restructuring program as well. And we're continuing to see some cost inflation, but we've been able to manage that from a pricing perspective as well. So overall, I'd say excellent operational performance from a cost structure perspective in Q1.

I think, Chris, the other thing I would add is, as we talked about in our Investor Day, we still have opportunity to drive higher operational efficiency from our modernized factories. And I think you're seeing that start to flow through in the Metal Cutting margins. It's one thing to modernize and get all the equipment put in. But as we ramp that up and now are getting better at operating and putting in smart factory applications to try to do data analytics to improve the factory processes, I think you're starting to see the benefits of that flowing through.

Got it. Got it. And then forgive me if I'm a little bit slow on the uptake. But just the price cost impact for the full company, you were saying was neutral on a dollar basis. Can you kind of remind us what the impact was by segment, then you said headwind in Infrastructure, was it an equivalent tailwind in Metal Cutting. Is that the way to think about it?

Yes. I think that's right. One of the things as we think about the margin and the price dynamic relative to raw materials and Infrastructure, we do have these contracts that are indexed. We have seen the price of tungsten come down. There's a natural repricing that occurs. Again, that's going to continue as we move through in Q2 here. But that's how that affected Infrastructure in the quarter.

The next question comes from Steve Barger from KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Chris, you've talked about some of the factors around reacceleration in the back half. But if I look at consensus 3Q revenue, relative to the midpoint of your 2Q guide, it implies about a 9% increase, which is above seasonal, which is like 6% ex the pandemic. So when you think about timing of back half improvement, does that seem reasonable? Or should we assume more normal seasonality and then maybe you exit the year a little bit better? Just trying to get a sense for cadence.

Yes. I think generally, I would say it's pretty even, but there are a couple of factors that -- one of which I talked about with Tami was on the Earthworks side that road milling was very low and construction was low for us last year, and even if it just get back to normal seasonality, we think that it will -- that's going to drive a little bit higher fourth quarter. So I think it's generally even, but there is a little bit of a ramp-up in the fourth quarter.

Got it. And you mentioned energy decline from both lower oil and gas and then delays in wind energy products. And I think we've all seen the stories around how the economics of some one projects are less favorable due to inflation and interest rates. Can you just remind us how big that business is for you?

Yes, I don't think we broke out a win, but I -- separately, but I can tell you that if you look at our Energy business in Asia for Metal Cutting, that's -- the preponderance of that is wind. There is some power gen and stuff in there, but the preponderance is wind.

And the other thing about the China wind, it seems to us that what's happening is that a lot of these wind farms are to be located in Taiwan straights. And what we've seen is that given the dynamic between China and Taiwan, there's been some uncertainty about continuing investing in those wind farm fields. And so we've seen a little bit of delay. But that according to our customers, that's what's driving it. They don't expect that to last forever, but that's put a little damper on that wind business in China.

The next question comes from Steven Fisher from UBS.

Just coming back to the second half improvement. I mean, you gave some of the factors. Again, I'm just curious how you actually translate some of those indicators you talked about into the magnitude of the growth forecast that you have, how much science is there in it? Are you sort of just using historical seasonality percentages. I mean I know -- I guess there was an automotive forecast that you could apply. Just curious how you get to the actual magnitude of what's implied in the second half growth rates?

Yes. Over the years, we have models that tie, for example, IPIs by region or light vehicle production and how that translates into business for us, Steve. So, there is some math behind it. But obviously, it starts with a forecast of what those IPIs are going to do and I kind of laid out the third-party prognosticators and their view of that. But then we always have the ability to balance that with customer -- customers. So in the Infrastructure business, where that's a lot of project business, we do rely heavily on what our customers are telling us. But those are -- so there is math behind part of it. And then certainly, there's what the customer sentiment is.

Okay. That's helpful. And then in the event that some of that doesn't play out, to the extent that you hope what's the potential to accelerate any restructuring benefits that you might have for going forward? Could you pull that forward? Or would you just sort of let that play out in the timing of what it's supposed to be?

Yes. I think, Steve, that's a good question. As we talked about at Investor Day, we've got $100 million of cost-out actions and improvements. It's productivity based and we're moving some structural costs associated with plants and a number of other things. And the down payment on that was our project. We call it Project Rebalance, the restructuring, Pat just spoke of, which is $20 million. So the point is that we have -- we already have active projects that are in flight. And we'll certainly look to -- we're always looking to accelerate those anyway. But if the environment worsens, the good news is we're not starting flat-footed because we've already got some things moving forward.

The next question comes from Steve Volkmann from Jefferies.

My question is on Europe.

I can't really hear you there, Steve.

All right. Is this better? Sorry about that.

Yes. Much better, much better.

Helps to speak into the mic, I guess. So my question about Europe and it seems like you have really strong growth over there in both segments and sort of contrary to a lot of what we're hearing from others in Europe. So I'm curious why you think that is the case? And I guess you're probably seeing some share gains over there. But maybe there's a different mix, maybe a little more Aerospace over there or something. I don't know. Just any commentary on why that is sort of the standout growth area?

Yes. I think the -- in terms of Metal Cutting, Steve, Gen Eng was up. And that, as you know, a big chunk of Gen Eng is actually Transportation. And if you think about the light vehicle production in Germany, in particular, last year versus the Q1 this year, they were way down, they were producing at very low levels. And so what we attribute the improvement is, is that there was a year-over-year improvement off a low baseline.

The good news is that their supply chain issues are behind them and they're still trying to fill some of the backlog. And so then the other thing that I think is equally important and a big driver is that their transformation to EV is happening and we're winning those EV projects. So as you pointed out, some of this is also just share gain of winning -- winning a good number of those projects.

I think if I -- and then the other thing is we're focused on Aerospace and Defense, and that certainly was up in Europe. And that's a combination of just continued strong markets there, but we also feel like we're picking up share. For Infrastructure, it was -- I think that was largely driven by our Aerospace and Defense business. And for obvious reasons, the Defense business is up in Europe.

Okay. Great. That's helpful. And then fit for purpose, Chris, just an update there. Is that still adding to share as well?

Yes, it is. We -- as you know, we brought the 2 segments together, WIDIA and the normal Metal Cutting business. We've put them both together. We've now -- we're now going to market with a strategy, where we offer the broad portfolio to our distributors and our customers that have need for both fit-for-purpose applications and sort of the higher end custom solutions that the Kennametal brand brings. So we feel like that strategy is working and we are picking up share across the globe.

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back to Chris Rossi for closing remarks.

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