Kodiak Gas Services Inc (KGS) 2025 Q4 法說會逐字稿

Greetings and welcome to Kodiak Gas Services conference call and webcast to review fourth quarter and full year 2025 results. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. (Operator Instructions)

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Graham Sones, Vice President, Investor relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Good morning and thank you for joining us for the Kodiak Gas Services conference call and webcast to review fourth quarter and full year 2025 results. Participating from the company today are Mickey McKee, President and Chief Executive Officer; and John Griggs, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Following my remarks, Mickey and John will review recent developments, discuss our financial results and 2026 outlook, and then we'll open the call for Q&A. There will be a replay of today's call available via webcast and also by phone until March 12, 2026. Information on how to access the replay can be found on the investors tab of our website at Kodiakgas.com.

Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, February 26, 2026, and therefore you're advised that such information may no longer be accurate as to the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Comments made by management during this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of United States federal securities laws.

These forward-looking statements reflect the current views, beliefs, and assumptions of Kodiak's management based on the information currently available.

Although we believe the expectations referenced in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, various risks, uncertainties, and contingencies could cause the company's actual results, performance, or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in the statements made by management, and management can give no assurance that such statements or expectations will prove to be correct.

The comments today will also include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Details and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in yesterday's earnings release, which can be found on our website. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Kodiak's President and Chief Executive Officer Mr. Mickey McKee

Thanks, Graham, and thank you all for joining us today. I'd like to begin today's call, as we do with all meetings at Kodiak by discussing safety. I've said this before, but our goal is for each of our employees to return home safely to their families at the end of every day.

We made great strides in our safety performance in 2025, but our goal remains zero work-related injuries. I want to thank our safety and training teams who work hard to equip our employees with the knowledge and tools to do their job safely, our customers for embracing our safety culture, and lastly, our technicians who embody our safety-first mindset.

2025 was another record setting year for Kodiak. We entered the year with a plan to continue to high grade our compression fleet by divesting underutilized, non-strategic small horsepower units and to exit operations in non-core areas, allowing us to focus on our core large horsepower operations. I'm proud to say that we ended 2025 with 100% of our operations located in the US.

And with the largest average horsepower fleet in the industry. The work we did high grading our fleet also allowed us to deliver strong increases in fleet utilization, adjusted gross margins, and free cash flow.

Given the high margins and stable operations, our core compression business generates predictable, growing, contracted cash flows that we reinvest both in our compression fleet and in tools and technologies that set us up for future success.

Some of our highlights from the last year include successfully implementing a new ERP system to provide us enterprise-wide real-time information in order to make more informed business decisions. Our team did an amazing job with the rollout of the new software.

We've been operating in the new system without issues since August 1, and at year end, we closed our accounting books in record time, an extraordinary execution by Kodiak.

Investing further in AI and machine learning technologies to drive operational excellence and better customer outcomes, we've deployed our custom large language model to help our technicians quickly diagnose issues encountered in the field and are using Agentic AI to source repair parts across our system.

Our technology roadmap for 2026 includes wearable devices and autonomous solutions to enhance our technicians' capabilities. Collect more data on our fleet, reduce risk, and allow our people to focus on high value activities.

And we also broke ground on a new state-of-the-art training and operations facility in Midland. The new industry-leading facility is expected to be the largest of its kind, allowing us to continue to train and develop the best workforce in the industry. We plan to move in in May.

Financially, we successfully managed the exit of our former private equity sponsor. Eliminating any perceived equity overhanging. As a recap, EQT owned approximately 76% of our shares after we went public in 2023. Over the last year and a half, through a series of secondary offerings, EQT completely exited its Kodiak investment. Much earlier than originally expected. We appreciate everyone who participated in the stock offerings.

Additionally, we overhauled our balance sheet, turning out a large portion of our ABL. This further reduced our reliance on secured bank debt, increased liquidity, and extended our weighted average debt maturity, providing us with enhanced balance sheet strength and financial flexibility. Also at your end, I'm proud to say that we delivered on the promise we made at IPO and achieved our leverage target of 3.5 times.

Lastly, we maintained our commitment to return capital to shareholders. We increased our dividend with Q4's declared dividend up 20% year-over-year, and we bought back over $100 million in common stock at an average price of $33.79 per share. In total, we returned over $260 million to our shareholders this year.

By all measures, 2025 was a great year for Kodiak. And with the recently announced acquisition of Distributed Power Solutions, we're starting 2026 with a lot of positive momentum.

We'll give more details after we close, but I can say that we've received a lot of inbound interest in our new distributed power offering since the announcement and are already working to procure additional power generation capacity through our existing network of vendors to deploy this year after we close.

We think the market will continue to move in our direction as large power consumers are increasingly looking to lock in 10 year plus deals for base power. On the contract services, as we've said before, we're really excited about compression. Compression and power are very synergistic and align well for our customers and ongoing relationships.

We ended 2025 with $4.35 million revenue generating horsepower. Average horsepower per revenue generating unit was 970, a figure that continues to lead the industry and has increased each quarter since we closed the CSI acquisition.

For the year we added approximately 150,000 new large horsepower to our fleet. Our investments to grow our fleet, along with strategic divestitures of non-core units, drove our fleet utilization to 98%, another industry leading metric.

As we will discuss later in our outlook for 2026, despite slowing oil production growth, the outlook for natural gas supply growth remains highly visible. Last year, Permian natural gas production grew 10%, or roughly 2 BCF per day. Keep in mind this production growth happened in a limited takeaway environment with negative pricing in West Texas for most of the year.

Given the increase in gas to oil ratios, we expect sustainable. Gas growth out of the Permian Basin, even in a flat oil environment. This favorable backdrop is driving strong compression demand, one of the many reasons why I'm excited about our 2026 capital spending program, which I'll discuss later.

Yesterday we released our fourth quarter and full year 2025 financial results. I'll hit the highlights and let John provide more details. For the year, Kodiak set new records in total revenue, adjusted EBITDA, discretionary cash flow, and free cash flow.

Total revenue grew by 13% to $1.3 billion and adjusted EBITDA grew by 17% to $715 million. The growth was driven by the outstanding execution of our core strategy by Kodiak personnel and our ongoing investment in organic, large horsepower growth and the deployment of our technology and AI initiatives.

Our technology advances are the result of several years of development, and we're just starting to see the efficiency improvement of our investment. We've significantly reduced the cost of major repairs to our fleet by using data to identify abnormal operating conditions and address them before they turn into expensive component failures.

These early wins give us confidence to continue to invest in technology, allowing us to increase equipment availability and reduce mechanical failures, driving additional value to our customers and increasing our operating margins.

We generated $230 million of free cash flow in 2025 after investing to grow our large horsepower fleets and high grading our overall fleet. Our strong free cash flow led to an industry leading free cash flow yield and allowed us to reduce outstanding debt and achieve our stated leverage ratio goal of 3.5 times at year end.

Now diving into fourth quarter results, we once again delivered year-over-year growth in contract services revenues and adjusted gross margin. Impressively, our contract services adjusted gross margin percentage increased 247 basis points year over year to 69.2%, exceeding the high end of our guidance.

Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was up 9% year-over-year to $184 million setting a new company record. Given strong customer demand, historically high industry-wide utilization, and capital discipline in the contract compression industry, pricing conversations with customers continue to be constructive.

During 2025, we recontracted approximately 40% of our fleet and exited the year with only 10% of our contracts on a month-to-month basis, with the rest under multi-year contracts. While we have a smaller percentage of our horsepower up for recontracting in 2026, the compression market remains tight with horsepower pricing continuing to increase.

In our other services segment, fourth quarter results reflected a sequential pickup in activity as we had a positive uptick in shop services and station construction revenues. Overall, this segment generates free cash flow with minimal capital investment.

Next, I'd like to discuss the evolving natural gas market and increasing lead times for large horsepower engines. Over the next three quarters, approximately 4.5 BCF per day of incremental Permian gas pipeline takeaway capacity is expected to come online.

And there's another 7 BCF per day of additional Permian takeaway pipelines expected by the end of the decade. What's more, we've seen estimates from research firms of more than 2 BCF per day of in-basin gas consumption for power generation by the end of the decade, including distributed power like DPS and major power plants.

This is on top of the highly visible increase in feed gas required for US LNG. After ramping up by roughly 3 BCF per day in 2025, LNG export capacity is set to increase by another 2 BCF per day in 2026, with an additional 13 BCF per day of LNG export capacity expected by the end of 2035.

These developments will have a resoundingly positive impact on gas pricing and production in the Permian Basin. A combination of higher in basin demand, increased takeaway capacity, better pricing, and ever-increasing gas to oil ratios is expected to lead to substantial Permian Basin gas volume growth in the back half of this decade.

The significant step up in midstream and compression capacity needed to support the gas growth in the Permian Basin, in addition to the rapidly growing demand for distributed power generation, has driven lead times for new large horsepower compression equipment to greater than 100 weeks.

The combination of extended lead times and highly visible compression demand has required our commercial team to engage with customers about longer-term plans. We've already begun receiving commitments from customers for new compression equipment in 2027 and 2028.

On the supply chain side, we're using our buying power and leading position in the industry to secure new compression equipment and are confident we'll be able to hit our long-term horsepower growth targets despite historically high lead times.

As we've already secured engine deliveries and shop space into 2028. In total, we expect to deploy over 750,000 new large horsepower compressions between now and the end of 2030.

Now turning to our outlook for 2026, we have a lot of positive momentum heading into the year. Despite the increased lead times for new equipment, we plan on delivering approximately 150,000 new units of horsepower in 2026, with an average horsepower per unit of approximately 1,700 horsepower.

Further solidifying our position as the industry leader in large horsepower compression. We're also in discussions with a handful of our customers about purchase leaseback opportunities and expect to announce one soon.

We view purchase lease back transactions as low-risk acquisitions. They have the benefit of accelerating our growth and compelling returns on invested capital without adding additional compression capacity to the market. The strong pricing environment we've seen for the last several years continues, and we expect to deliver further margin increases as we capture operating efficiencies.

And we're seeing positive signs in the station construction business, part sales, and our other services segment. In summary, we had a great year.

Our adjusted EBITDA significantly exceeded both our initial guidance for the year and our latest update, driven by operational efficiency and cost management. We hydrated our fleet, exited international operations, and achieved our leverage target of 3.5 times.

We have numerous tailwinds heading into 2026 as demand for contract compression remains strong and utilization rates continue to be at record highs. We're extremely excited to add distributed power to our business offerings and believe the outlook for that business will allow us to increase our underlying growth rate and drive higher margins.

And now I'll pass the call to John Griggs to further discuss our financial results and our outlook for 2026. John.

Thank you. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, 2025 was an outstanding year. There's just no other way to say it. From a financial perspective, we exited the year with the lowest leverage, most liquidity, and highest EBITDA free cash flow and contract services adjusted gross margin in our company's history.

Our new enterprise-wide business system meaningfully reduces so related risks and is increasingly providing us with enhanced visibility into our operating financial performance, giving our company's leaders far better data and insights to ultimately make faster and better business decisions. Our financial strength has never been better equipped to capture all of the growth opportunities that are in front of us today.

Before I tackle the financial highlights, I'd like to give a shout out to my team. I am so proud of everything they've accomplished over the past couple of years, an IPO and all that that entails, the CSI acquisition and integration, several capital markets transactions, more than $2 billion in bond issuances, and ERP implementation, and more recently, moving to full compliance. It's been a big lift, but they've risen to the occasion time and time again. I'm privileged to lead them, and I look forward to seeing them continue to do great things as we move forward.

Let's turn to the financial highlights. For the year, we reported total revenue of approximately $1.3 billion 13% increase over 2024. The growth was primarily driven by the addition of new horsepower, price increases from recontracting activity, and solid operational execution.

We reported adjusted net income of $139 million and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $715 million up 51% and 17% respectively in the prior year.

For the fourth quarter, total revenues were nearly $333 million up 3% sequentially as we benefited from a large amount of recontracting that happened around the beginning of the fourth quarter.

Revenue for any horsepower was $23.10 at year end, a 2% increase from the previous quarter and up approximately 5% from the previous, all new horsepower being set in Q4 in conjunction with solid pricing for new units set during the third quarter, plus recontracting during Q4 at ever higher rates.

Our contract services adjusted gross margin percentage for the fourth quarter exceeded 69%. That's up 90 basis points sequentially and 247 basis points year-over-year.

Margin improvement is a reflection of the success we've realized in achieving higher average pricing for horsepower alongside lower operating expense for horsepower, which itself was a function of new technology, process, and training initiatives that either reduce costs, defer spend, or improve labor productivity, or some combination of all three.

In our other services segment, revenues were just over $31 million in Q4 with an adjusted gross margin percentage of 13%. The sequential increase in revenues is driven primarily by an increase in shop services and station construction revenues.

Reported SG&A for the quarter was $38.9 million, and after adjusting for non-recurring or non-cash items, it was $29.7 million, down nearly 6% in the prior quarter.

Net income attributable to common shareholders for the fourth quarter was almost $25 million or $0.28 per diluted share, excluding asset impairment, severance and transaction expenses, and other one-time items, adjusted net income was $35 million or $0.40 per diluted share.

Now let's turn to capital expenditures. Maintenance cap for the quarter was approximately $22 million, and it was $76 million for the year, which was at the low end of our annual guidance range. The same investments in technology and the insights we're gaining from them are also allowing us to extend overhaul intervals and thereby defer associated spend on a major portion of our fleet.

As expected, growth CapEx declined sharply this quarter to approximately $25 million for the year, we added approximately 150,000 in new unit horsepower in line with previous expectations.

Other CapEx was just under $12 million for the quarter, slightly down from the prior quarter. Discretionary cash flow came in at $113 million an increase of approximately $5 million versus the comparable quarter from last year.

Free cash flow, which we define as discretionary cash flow, less growth and other caps, plus the proceeds from asset sales was $79 million a new quarterly company record. For the year we generated approximately $462 million in discretionary cash flow.

Our discretionary cash flow is one of our most important business metrics. It drives our growth and it funds the return of capital to shareholders. The long-term growth of our core compression business and therefore our discretionary cash flow is directly correlated with the nearly irrefutable secular growth in domestic natural gas production.

And our cash flows are heavily contracted undertake or pay contracts with inflation escalators. As a result, we tend to produce growing but stable discretionary cash flow even in times of severe commodity price volatility, which is something we can't emphasize enough.

With regard to the balance sheet, as Mickey highlighted earlier, we delivered on a promise we made to investors at the time of our IPO that we'd get our leverage down to 3.5 times by the time we exited 2025.

We exited the year with the strongest balance sheet we've ever had, with approximately $1.5 billion in undrawn liquidity in over three years before our first debt maturity.

To recap, in 2025 we turned out $1.4 billion of our bank debt in the bond market, including the first issuance of a 10 year bond in the compression sector. And we amended our ADL to reduce interest rate spreads and enhance financial flexibility. Last, our board declared, and we paid last week a dividend of $0.49 per share. Even with two increases totaling nearly 20% in 2025, our dividend was well covered for the quarter at 2.6 times.

Let's turn to our '26 guidance. We provided our customary metrics in yesterday's release. Keep in mind our guidance metrics don't include the recently announced DPS acquisition. We plan on revising our guidance for the inclusion of that business after we close the transaction, which we would expect to occur around the beginning of the second quarter.

For the year we expect overall revenue to range between $1.37 billion and $1.43 billion. We expect the adjusted gross margin percentage within the contract services segment to range between 67.5% and 69.5%. Our 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance range is around $750 million to $780 million, with the midpoint representing annual growth of approximately 8%, directly in line with the upper single-digit percentage annual growth rate that we believe is possible in our core compression business for the foreseeable future.

We expect maintenance caps to be in a range of $75 million to $85 million, essentially flat with last year, something that would not have been possible had we not been investing in the people processing systems that have allowed us to meaningfully defer maintenance spend without harming our assets or their long-term performance.

We see growth capital expenditures landing between $235 million and $265 million. The vast majority of our growth CapEx goes towards buying and installing new units while the balance gets invested in things like fleet-oriented enhancements and conversions, emissions related projects, and operation centric technology.

Other capital expenditures, which includes fleet upgrades, make ready expenditures, rolling stock, real estate, capitalized aspects of our training programs, are expected to range between $40 million and $50 million. In terms of capital allocation, returning capital to shareholders is important to us.

We expect to grow our dividend annually and opportunistically repurchase stock. Prior to the acquisition of DPS, our stated goal was to invest organically at a level that allowed us to deliver long-term annual growth and adjusted EBITDA in the upper single-digit percentage range.

Following the acquisition of DPS, we believe we can grow faster than that and have similar or better returns on invested capital.

To wrap it up '25 was another record setting year at Kodiak. We're extremely proud of all that we accomplished and the work we did to lay the foundation for future growth. The outlook for contract compression and related services is stronger than ever, and by our by our estimation, it looks like it will remain that way for a while.

We're in the process of further increasing our earnings growth rate with the pending acquisition of distributed power solutions. So, with that, I'll hand it back Mickey.

Thanks, John. It's an exciting time to be at Kodiak. Our business model, which generates highly visible, stable, and recurring cash flows, is performing well. The demand outlook for contract compression remains robust, demonstrated by our ability to maintain strong pricing and continued growth in our industry leading horsepower utilization.

Our new unit horsepower order book is fully contracted for 2026 and into 2027. And we're actively working on finishing 2027 and 2028 as we capitalize on the robust outlook for growth in natural gas. Besides the top-line growth, we took steps to increase margins by divesting non-core units and investing in technology to reduce costs and increase uptime.

The pending DPS acquisition will further increase our earnings potential and growth outlook, enhancing our ability to return capital and drive ongoing value for Kodiak shareholders. Needless to say, we're excited about our future. Thanks for your participation today, and now we're happy to open up the line for questions operator.

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions)

Jim Rollyson, Raymond James.

Hey, good morning, Mickey, John, everyone. Mickey, maybe just starting with the lead time comments. Obviously, all of you guys are seeing the same thing, and I'm curious, it's great to see the CapEx commitment on the compression side that just underscores, I think, your view there.

But as you think about '27, '28, and where lead times have escalated to here pretty rapidly, how are customers thinking about that? How are you guys planning for that because I'm imagining. That not only impacts your ability to grow on the compression side, but it's also on the power side once you get that close, so maybe just some kind of color how you navigate that.

Yeah, hey, good morning, Jim. Thanks for joining us today. Yeah, it's been a challenge and it's a very fluid environment right now. We've been working really hard over the last couple of weeks to make sure that we secure our supply chain, and we've, like I said in my prepared comments, we've got shop space and engines, actually secured right now throughout 2027 and into 2028 and, doing our best to stay ahead of that and make sure that we have, adequate supply for what would the amount that we want to grow in the compression, segment here.

So, I think, as most of our customers also own their own compression equipment, partially in their fleets, and so, that all of our customers already understand the tightness in the supply in the market and they're willing to engage in those conversations, well and, well ahead of time for us to, make sure that we have their needs covered, so. Our commercial team's doing a great job of staying ahead of it, and we're making sure that we're monitoring that situation on a real-time basis because I can tell you it is changing by the hour.

Understood, thanks for that. And the other thing, you guys have had a slide in your deck since you [IPOed] kind of about, the cost of equipment up 50%, let's say, pre-COVID to relative today, and obviously that's driven a lot of pricing growth over time as you price new units and mark your fleet up over time.

Curious with recent conversations with Caterpillar given their lead times today, are they talking about more material pricing increases? And if so, wouldn't that allow you overtime to kind of reap the same benefits going forward at some point?

Yeah, I mean two parts to that question, right? I mean, I would expect, that going forward that we'll have some pricing power and to be able to have constructive conversations with our customers there because, the cost of replacement equipment, naturally I would think with 100+ lead times with Caterpillar would increase.

So like I said, they, our customer base is all very, cognizant of what's going on there in that pricing dynamic there, so, we haven't heard of significant price increases coming out of Caterpillar yet, but it's something that I would probably expect.

Appreciate that guys thanks I'll turn it back.

Yeah, thanks, Jim.

John MacKay, Goldman Sachs.

Hey guys, thank you for the time. Maybe we'll pick up on that first question from earlier. Could you talk a little bit more about what is driving the tightness in the market right now, kind of specifically? I think we understand some of the broader trends but would love to hear a little bit more from you on kind of why we've gotten so tight so quickly here.

Thank you. Yeah, hey John thanks for joining us this morning. Yeah, it's really a pretty interesting, discussion that we've had with Caterpillar over the last, several months on what's driving the tightness in the market here, and I think it, a lot of people would assume that it is power that is driving, kind of the increased lead times here, and it really is, a power discussion. But a lot of the Permian, power or processing plants for rich natural gas that are going in in the Permian Basin right now, which there's a lot of them being built.

They don't have the access to grid power, so traditionally in those power plants you'd see 75,000 horsepower worth of electric motor driven units for inlet compression for, propane compression for residue compression in those plants within the four walls, because of the limited access to power that these guys have out there, specifically in the Permian.

They're having to turn those electric motors within the four walls of those plants into large horsepower, natural gas driven engines to drive those, to drive that compression within those plants. So I think that that's a dynamic that really nobody saw coming towards us, and it's really a driver from the limited access to grid power that people have today and the extended lead times to get hooked up to the grid which.

You know we've heard it can be 7 years to 8 years at some point, in time. So, like I said, these midstream guys and the people that are building these plants out here are having to turn to gas-driven engines versus electric motor-driven, electric motors in the, in those, plants. So, it's creating a kind of a new level of demand that we haven't seen previously.

That’s interesting. Sounds like a good time to get into the power business, but we can talk about that more in April second one for me is just on gross margins. Fourth quarter is really strong. You guys have been generally doing very well on that front. I think the '26 guide points to it being a little flatter.

Would love just to hear your general comments on the trajectory there. Maybe some conservatism baked in, maybe some of the cost savings you've talked about in the past on the AI side. Kind of walk us through that. Thanks.

Yeah.

Sure.

So John, I'll thank you. This is John Griggs. So, we thought a lot about that as we put the guide out. We anticipated we'd get some questions. And one thing that we know is the fourth quarter was a really clean quarter. Our business is highly predictable, but you're always going to have some gremlins that happen within your cost of goods sold, and we really just didn't see many of those.

Whether that's, a lot of hard work, a lot of technology, a lot of planning, great operations, and a little bit of luck, we're not exactly sure, but it happened, and when I look at, everybody kind of focuses on our dollar per ending horsepower, we also study our dollar per our contract services cost of operations for ending horsepower, and it's been really flat until the fourth quarter where it dropped meaningfully.

So I think we probably have a little bit of conservatism in case it gets back on trend to where it was for the prior three quarters. Now with that said, I think you hit the nail on the head and that pricing continues to be strong and all the investments we've made in say two big buckets technology, the operational technology, we're starting to see a return on those investments during '25 and we expect to continue to see it in '26.

And all the investment we've made in our people around training those absolutely have an impact on that cost of goods sold, and we expected to see it. So hopefully, as the year goes along, we, we'll be able to walk that number up, but that does explain kind of where we guided.

That's great I appreciate the time thank you guys.

Yeah, thanks, John.

Doug Irwin, Citi.

Hey, thanks for the question. Maybe to add one more on lead times to start, great to hear that that customers are already having conversations out in 2028, but just curious, just in the context of potential two year lead times if that changes just your general risk appetite to potentially look to maybe order some capacity on spec just to be able to make sure you're able to secure it in advance.

Yeah, hey, good morning, Doug, this is Mickey, yeah, I mean, look, it's a different conversation that we're having with our board today than it was, 6 months ago to where, we were looking at capacity and lead times that were inside of a year and having contracts to back those up so we're having to do a little bit more of spec ordering today and making sure that we've got some shop space, locked up and engines locked up.

So, we are having to take a little bit more risk there. However, I would say that is mitigated a little bit by the fact that we don't have to commit to 100% of that CapEx cost, two years out. We might have some engines, some extra engines and that kind of thing that are there if the demand doesn't come through like we fully expect it to.

But so there is a little bit more risk appetite to order some equipment on spec out a little bit farther out right now, but again, like I said, that's not for 100% of that cost, it's for, a portion of that cost.

And I do want to add on there too, I think it's really important as we think about this, and we have like a macro view of the future where we think production levels are going to be, and we've stated over and over and over again really since IPO that we think we can grow our fleet volumetrically by that 3% to 5% per year.

So, everything, and I should say we have really like sophisticated customers today with long-term development plans, and we're in close communication with them. We view them as partners. So virtually everything that we're buying that is ahead of that commitment we think it's completely in line with kind of our base case and where that market is headed to where our customers will be so it feels like a really low risk proposition to us.

Yeah, that, that's helpful, and then maybe a quick one on power. Realize you haven't given guidance there, but just curious in the context of the guidance you just gave for the base business, just how you're thinking about your capacity to invest in power here over the near term.

Yeah, Doug, I mean, look, we bought the DPS platform because we, we've been looking at the power business for over a year now. Looking at the right entry point, we want to make sure that we could pair up our operational expertise with high-quality commercial and engineering expertise on the power side, and we settled on this, on the DPS acquisition because they really checked all those boxes. It's a really high-quality platform that we think we can put. A strong operational platform behind as well as a strong balance sheet behind and our full intention is to grow that business and we'll come back after we close, and give a little bit better guidance on kind of what we think, the growth opportunity looks like but we fully intend to grow that business and we think that there's some opportunity to acquire some megawatts of power, even this year to be able to deploy this year. And we're leveraging our relationships that we have with existing vendors and our caterpillar network to make sure that we can secure some of that equipment and put it to work this year and then come back to you know after close with kind of a more fulsome view of what we think the long-term growth outlook looks like for that business but we fully plan on growing it, starting this year and putting some, significant growth capital behind that side of the business as well.

Got it, thanks for your time.

Gaby Cerny, Gabrielle Cerny.

Hey, this is Neal Dingmann. Hey, guys, can you just talk about, Mikey, you've always talked about, just, external growth, and I know again you have the backlog right now with compression, so I'm just wondering, would you approach some of your, compress.

Some of your customers more aggressively to try to add that way. Thank you.

Yeah, Neal, you kind of broke up a little bit on us there. Can you, do you mind repeating the question?

Well, we might have lost. Yeah, are you there, Neal? Well, I think that the just of the question, sorry about that, I think the gist of the question was kind of approaching our customers with kind of a two-pronged approach on compression and as well as power needs, and we certainly think that is an opportunity for us going forward.

We've got a lot of customers specifically in the Permian that. That that are looking at micro grid development and establishing their own power out there in the Permian and we definitely are having those conversations with them already and definitely think we can leverage those relationships and the operational expertise to grow that business with our existing customer base as well.

That was exactly it, Mickey. Thank you. And then just secondly on the LNG, Mickey, you've always talked about kind of a formula, I think early in the IPO process you even talked about a formula for potential LNG demand. Does that formula still exist? And so, you can kind of remind me about where potential is around maybe that LNG upside demand.

Yeah, absolutely. Look, we think that there's a significant amount of LNG feed gas that's going to be required throughout the United States and as we talk about the Permian a lot, but we're also in every major oil and gas producing region in the United States with commercial and operational presence there.

So we're positioned well to provide compression for no matter where that gas is going to come from, we know there's going to be a significant amount of gas production, but for both behind the meter, power and for LNG feedstock. So, we think we're in a great position to be able to be there, I think you're referencing, we're significantly in the Permian Basin. You're probably referencing the compression intensity metric that we talked about.

One of the reasons why the last five years of our business have been so robust is because of the amount of compression it takes to produce one molecule of natural gas out of the Permian Basin. Because there's compression needed for gas lift, there's compression needed within four walls of processing plants gathering, all those things.

So we still firmly believe that the Permian Basin with oil prices being relatively resilient over $60 that there's great economics for our customer base to not only continue to at a minimum keep oil production flat. But given gas to oil ratio increases and that kind of thing. There's going to be significant gas growth out of the Permian, which is going to require a ton of compression to produce that, especially with these new, takeaway capacity lines coming into play in the, in the Permian basin.

So, we're really excited about the opportunity. We think it's going to be a massive amount of natural gas growth over the next, throughout the end of the decade and into the 2030s, and we're positioned well to take advantage of that both on the compression and the power side.

Thanks, Mickey.

Yeah, thanks, Neal.

Eli Johnson, JPMorgan Chase.

Hey, thanks everybody, maybe just wanted to start on the visibility you're seeing in the contract compression business, you talked a little bit about seeing 750,000 horsepower through 2030.

Maybe just the conversations you're having with customers that kind of support that, and then, it seems that would support sort of this mid-single-digit even a growth in just the contract compression business alone based on your historical execution. Is that a fair way to think about it, just continuing this strong growth that we've seen? Thanks.

Yeah, hey, good morning, Eli. Good to hear from you this morning. Yeah, that is absolutely our intent is to continue that, up into the right trajectory in the compression business and then layer the power business on top of that. We've got very high, visibility into our growth. Like I said, we're engaging in conversations with customers right now for 2028 capacity.

And there's a very large appetite for multiple of our customers that we're in discussions with right now for multiple, multi-year, recontracting and renewals on the existing quiz, equipment that we're seeing elongated types of renewal time frames right there. We're in discussions with multiple customers about. 7 years and 10 year renewals on that stuff which is a really great development for our business and the visibility of our existing asset base and the growth of that over time.

So, we've never really given multiple year kind of guidance or indications of what we expect for, horsepower growth, but we feel pretty good about it right now and that's why we brought it into this this call and our prepared remarks today that that we really do see a. Multi-year, growth case that is going to underpin kind of our cash flows and, stable earnings for a long time.

It's awesome, and maybe just sticking with the contract, services business. I know you know you guys talked a bit about sort of operational execution driving gross margins higher and you did give us a guide there, but maybe just on the overall pricing outlook I think previously you've talked about exciting, this year at around $24 per horsepower per month. Any reason to think that would be different, or higher or just high level what you're seeing right now on the overall sort of fleet pricing? Thanks.

Yeah, as we said, conversations with customers have been very constructive and continue to be, we're not seeing any, significant change in pricing on equipment going forward, I think John did mention it in his prepared remarks, we do have less of a percentage of our fleet that's up for recontracting this year.

I think last year we recontracted 40% of the fleet this year it's kind of in a low 20%, so. I would say that that our ability to raise prices on the existing fleet is just as strong as it ever has, albeit it might be a little bit more muted of a of a contribution this year because of the limited amount of equipment that we have kind of coming up for recontracting.

That being said, our goal is still to reach that $24 of horsepower by the end of the year and we feel pretty good that we're going to get there, by the end of the year and feel good about that target.

Awesome I'll leave it their thanks guys.

Thanks, Eli.

Nate Pendleton, Texas Capital Bank.

Good morning. Congrats on the quarter. I wanted to dive a bit deeper into your prepared remarks regarding applying AI and machine learning to improve business. Can you provide your view on how these developments can further improve financials from here and perhaps how all those technologies can apply to the newly acquired power assets?

Yeah, hey, good morning, Nate. Thanks for joining us. Yeah we're really excited about what we've done in the technology space we think we've got some first mover type of advantages there we've really done a great job through our technology group and our operations group and adopting that kind of stuff.

And we've already rolled out kind of conditions-based maintenances to where we're not just saying hey, you need to change this oil in this equipment every 90 days, but we're letting the equipment tell us today when that oil needs to be changed based on kind of operating conditions and oil sampling and that kind of stuff, and we're able to recognize when that equipment is operating outside of the bounds of kind of where it should be.

And that's provided a pretty significant uplift in our gross margins because we're able to kind of extend maintenance intervals. Based on the health of the machine, not necessarily based on time. I've said it many times before. We used to change the oil in our cars every 3,000 miles. Now, we're going 10,000 miles in our cars and trucks, and they tell us when they need the oil changed in them.

So, that's a result of technology and looking at the status of the equipment rather than how it is actually, rather than a time-based type of a of an interval. We're also applying that on our on our major maintenance cycles as well and extending those major maintenance cycles which is why you've seen growth in the fleet but our maintenance capital line items staying flat throughout the year, the last couple of years and we're happy to see that.

The upside that we have there is we haven't, applied those, that stuff across the whole fleet yet. We've tested it, in '24 and '25. We've rolled it out to a much larger portion of the fleet now and now we have the ability to roll it out to an even larger portion of the fleet, going forward, so we should see continued, impact on technology through deploying that, technology and then Looking at how that applies to the power world.

we think that that we have, a long history of operating cat equipment. We've got, we've, we're acquiring a business that has a significant amount of power that's driven by 35, 16 Caterpillar engines, and we think we can apply the same metrics to on the power side and, apply our technology there.

So we're really excited to be kind of move first movers in that space too. As kind of one of the first, companies that has significant operating history and Caterpillar equipment to be able to apply that expertise and operating kind of regimen to really the same engines that are just driving power generators versus gas compressors, so we're excited about that and we think we'll be able to have the same kind of impact there on that operation.

Thanks for the detail there. And as my follow-up, I guess going to the DPS acquisition, I know there's limited you can say at this point, but can you provide any high level details about the inbound interest since announcing the deal that you alluded to in the prepared remarks?

Yeah, I can't talk a ton about it obviously yet, but we have to stay a little bit at arm's length with the DPS right now on the commercial side just for antitrust issues and that kind of thing. I think everybody understands that.

However, independent of our discussions with DPS, we have received inbound calls from multiple data centers and several customers who have recognized that we are bringing operational expertise into a market where there is a great deal of competition. Despite this competition, it is clear that many of these competitors do not have anywhere near the level of experience that we have in operating large‑horsepower equipment.

and, they, the customer base out there is really starting to take notice of the of the ability that we'll have to apply that operational expertise in the power world as well, I said it a little bit earlier we really were hunting for a company that really had a significant commercial expertise in the power division.

As well as engineering expertise, DPS is one of the only companies that's has a multi-year contract and has been operating for multiple years already on a data center, project, right, so, they have experience, they understand AI load data man load management, that is required for some of the. The challenges that go along with powering a data center, and we feel like we've got a really great opportunity to make a big impact in that business, by combining the commercial and engineering expertise of DPS with Cody X, operational expertise.

Got it. That's exciting. Can't wait to hear more. Thanks for taking my questions.

Yeah, thanks, Nate.

Selman Akyol, Stifel.

Thank you. Good morning. Two quick ones for me and just more little follow-ups. In your previous question, I think you referenced sort of 40% of contracts, recontracted, and then, 10% in your opening comments for '26. The question is this How much are recontracting for 2027?

Oh, that's a good question. I actually haven't run those numbers. Selman, thanks for joining us. Sorry, I, good morning. To be honest with you, I don't have that number at my fingertips. It's something that we'll be looking at, but I can tell you that kind of on average we expect 25% to 30% of our fleet recontracts every year, and we would expect that to be in the 2027 outlook.

To be honest with you though, we actually are having some really constructive conversations with customers right now about pulling forward some of those, recontracting efforts. I mentioned earlier we're in conversations with some customers about some 7 year and 10 year renewals right now, and quite frankly some of that stuff is stuff that's not even up for recontracting in 2026, and it would be pulling that forward from '27 and '28 in some cases too.

so. We're really excited about that and so it's kind of a moving target a little bit right now, but for argument's sake, really 25% to 30% of our contracts any given year would come due, and that's what our full expectation for '27.

Okay, great. I mean repricing into a stronger environment then the other one just real quick so you talked about potentially ordering some engines on spec, and then you said you wouldn't have to commit 100% of the capital, but could those engines be swapped over to DPS if you didn't have a need for them?

Yeah, we think they can, no we definitely can we'll be looking at how we do that and how we manage that supply chain, but we can definitely, would be able to kind of buy some of the slots and maybe hopefully be able to kind of manage whether they, support compression or power.

Great I appreciate the additional color thanks cheers.

Yeah, thanks, men.

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Kodiak CEO Mickey McKee.

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