Jewett-Cameron Trading Company Ltd (JCTC) 2025 Q4 法說會逐字稿

Good afternoon and welcome to the Jewett-Cameron Trading Company's review of financial results for the fiscal 2025 full year and fourth quarter ended August 31, 2025. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host. Please go ahead.

Thank you very much, operator, and thank all of you for joining us today to discuss Jewett-Cameron's operational and financial results for the fiscal 2025 full year and fourth quarter for the period ended August 31, 2025.

With us on the call representing the company today are Chad Summers, Jewett-Cameron's Chief Executive Officer; and Mitch Van Domelen, the company's Chief Financial Officer.

At the conclusion of today's prepared remarks, we will address questions that have been submitted to the company. Before we begin with prepared remarks, please note that statements made by the management team of Jewett-Cameron during the course of this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of US securities laws.

Forward-looking statements describe future expectations, plans, results, or strategies and are generally preceded by words such as may, future, planned, will, should, expected, anticipates, or similar words. Listeners are cautioned that such statements are subject to a multitude of risks and uncertainties that could cause. Future circumstances, events, or results to differ materially from those identified in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors and other risks identified in the company's 100 for the fiscal year ended August 31, 2025 and other filings made with the Securities and Exchange Commission. A webcast replay of today's conference call will also be available online on the company's investor relations page.

With that said, let me turn the call over to Chad Summers, Chief Executive Officer for Jewett-Cameron. Chad, please proceed.

Thank you, Robert, and good afternoon. I appreciate the opportunity to speak with everyone here today.

As I stated in the press release, we began fiscal 2025 with a positive outlook and a focus on continuing to increase sales, improve margins, lower costs, introduce innovative products, and monetize surplus assets.

Throughout the first two quarters of the fiscal year, many of management's key objectives were achieved. Specifically, our metal fence business was on a clear growth trajectory, resulting in first half 2025 revenue growth compared to the first half of 2024.

This momentum was driven by the continued success of our Lifetime Steel post and adjusted gate products, the expansion of our innovative in-store displayer placements, and the launch of new offerings.

Further, our new supply source partners were increasing production to support our sales, lessening our dependence on China and the higher tariff impacts. With new lifetime steel post displayers in place in the right stores in the right aisles, we were set for seasonally strong second half of the year when professionals and do it-yourselfers are most active leveraging our products to enrich outdoor spaces.

Unfortunately, the rapidly escalating and unpredictable across the board tariffs first announced in February 2025 on sourced goods created unprecedented market turmoil which resulted in deferring retailer purchases, straining logistics, and driving higher costs. All of which significantly impacted our second half results.

It was not just our ability to understand and calculate the complex and rapidly changing executive orders, but also getting our customers to accept price increases in a timely manner.

For the past number of months we have taken aggressive steps to mitigate the impacts of the tariffs in the short-term. Some of these we were able to move quickly and decisively on, including realignment of our workforce through the reassignment of some employees to new roles and an overall headcount reduction in 2025 of 27% year over year.

Further, the actions taken over the past couple of years to institute multi-country sourcing initiatives have allowed us to somewhat mitigate a portion of these new tariff costs by shifting production away from China as the highest tariff country.

We believe that retailers are becoming acclimated to the new tariff environment and the realities of new associated costs. Our customers are increasingly accepting the new prices, which will help alleviate a portion of this cost pressure going forward. We will continue to work with our suppliers and customers to find solutions to these tariff challenges while reducing our cost as much as possible.

Furthermore, we are working with our customers to better align our cost with the price we charge for our products. This structural alignment is critical to ensuring our long-term profitability and minimizing the risk to the business against future volatility. While the tariffs had a short-term impact on our business during the second half of fiscal 2025, it further forced us to accelerate our internal strategic review.

For years, Jewett Cameron Trading Company had been a collection of businesses, products, and brands that included pneumatic tools, seed cleaning, engineered plywood flooring, as well as dog kennels, gates, and fence boards. As the world evolved, we began to shift our long-term strategic focus to the business we felt could scale and deliver meaningful profits. We shut down the pneumatic tool business, closed down our seed cleaning facility, and rebranded Jewett Cameron to capitalize on our strengths of differentiation, innovation, and channel presence with a focus on improving the lives of pros and do it-yourselfers in the backyard.

Our metal fence products remain our best margin producing category and not only maintained their growth trajectory post pandemic but matched last year's sales even with the tariff volatility this year.

Jewett-Cameron Fence will continue to be the primary focus of our operations and resources as we expand our in-store presence and introduce innovative products.

With thousands of display units already deployed and our Lifetime Steel Post program on track to be in over 500 stores, a small fraction of its potential, we see significant opportunities to grow through broader retail placement, new channels, and continued product enhancement.

As global conditions stabilize, we believe a significant opportunity remains to accelerate growth and rebuild margins by deepening key partnerships, improving purchasing discipline, and bringing our core fencing products to more customers than ever before. Mitch will touch more on this section, but it's in his section, but it's important to note that despite the challenges from tariffs for the year, metal fence products were essentially flat compared to the previous year.

Let me expand on each of these actions just a bit more. First off, on the overhead and administrative expense reductions, we are executing on a plan to initially reduce operating expenses by approximately $1 million to $3 million. It is our intent to match our operating expense level with our gross profit levels to achieve profitability in the long-term.

Jewett-Cameron was originally founded as a lumber brokerage business and has maintained strong lumber sales for many years. In 2023, we had the opportunity to help one of our larger customers who had recently lost their primary source of Western red cedar fence pickets, and they asked us to assist by participating in their lumber consignment program.

This program helped stabilize the year over year lumber sales fluctuations we were commonly experiencing as a secondary supplier to multiple big box retailers. However, the increased demand to keep sufficient quantities of inventory on hand, the inflexibility to accept price increases, and longer cash conversion cycle greatly reduced the profitability of our lumber program.

Under the consignment arrangement, we were required to purchase and warehouse increased volumes of inventory to support the quick replenishment of stock at our customers' distribution centers, which placed a significant liquidity burden on the company as it had to outlay cash but would not receive payment until store supplies were replenished.

Our lumber consignment customer recently provided notice of their intention to transition away from our consignment arrangement in calendar 2026. Although the consignment arrangement provided us with meaningful revenue, it was low margin, demanding of internal resources, and not as profitable as we would like.

We are currently in discussions with this customer as well as other third parties regarding the purchase of our remaining lumber inventory, which is, which, as mentioned, adds warehousing and other costs to maintain.

On the pet product front, as we have communicated for the past few years, demand for certain of our pet products remains slow as the pet market continues its overall weakness. As a result, we continue to have excess pet inventory at our warehouse. This excess inventory has placed a strain with working capital tied up in inventory. In recent months, we have successfully implemented programs that are beginning to accelerate sales of our pet products. Additionally, we are working with third-party liquidators to sell the remaining high-quality but slow moving inventory which will provide us with cash and clear our warehousing costs for these products.

We are working to sell most, if not all, over the next few months because we expect to sell this inventory at lower prices. We have increased our allowance for obsolete inventory by $650,000 in fiscal 2025 over our allowance in fiscal 2024.

Going forward, we are reviewing potential changes to our pet business as we expect the overall pet industry to remain challenging in the foreseeable future. At Greenwood, sales in fiscal 2025 rose by 2% over our sales in fiscal 2024.

Although demand for transit-focused products continues to rebound from the pandemic lows as more workers return to the office, a transit seat shortage during fiscal 2025 restricted new bus construction and orders for our transit products.

Demand for these transit products improved as the steep shortage was largely resolved by the 4th quarter of fiscal 2025. We have recently realigned some personnel to provide support to Greenwood by working to open new sales channels and add new customers. We believe this segment has significant growth potential in both our primary transit sector and in new industrial markets.

While our Greenwood subsidiary is generally a lower risk profitable business, it is somewhat outside of our core differentiated operations and may present more value to us as part of a strategic collaboration. Thus, we are in the process of reviewing transactions that would enhance overall value for our industrial wood products subsidiary and our company. If our preliminary discussions materialize into something more definitive, we will provide appropriate additional disclosures at that time.

Transitioning to my eco world, while we have seen good growth since we rebranded, we have not matched our $2.5 million in sales when we first launched our compostable dog waste bags a few short years ago.

One part of our growth strategy for this line was to enter the grocery store segment during fiscal 2025. We secured our first placement with the launch of pet waste bags into 59 tops friendly markets across the Northeast beginning in late February.

However, the imposition of the new tariffs first announced in February 2025 made our products less price competitive and growth in the grocery segment much more challenging. Instead, we will be focusing on expanding upon our successful introductions into big box stores where we have existing strong supplier relationships and into foreign markets that are unburdened by the US tariff tariffs, making these products more competitive.

A big value opportunity is clearly our seed cleaning property. It sits on our books for just $566,000 unencumbered, and it is our belief that the value of this facility is much higher.

That said, the current sluggish economic conditions within both the nearby cities and in Greater Portland has reduced the previously perceived need among the nearby cities to quickly expand the urban growth boundary which prioritize our property throughout the consideration process.

Therefore, any inclusion of this property in expanded urban growth boundary or reclassification of the property from its limited rural industrial classification now appears less likely in the short-term given the prevailing economic and political environment in the surrounding area.

Accordingly, we have re-listed the property based on comps, its corner location along a major highway, and its unique zoning classification at a price of $7.223 million. In addition to our seed cleaning property, we also own a property in North Plains, Oregon we refer to as our innovation studio that contains a photo studio and meeting space which we are listing at a price of $795,000. This property is also unencumbered.

After a promising start to our fiscal year 2025, the second half experienced unprecedented challenges that required us to shift our focus, as I hope you can hear, Management and the board are highly focused on evaluating strategic alternatives that prioritize the company's and shareholders' overall value.

Obviously, there can be no assurance that any strategic discussion with third parties will result in definitive agreements or the completion of any transaction, but we recognize that the status quo is not an option. We will provide further updates on these preliminary discussions if and when a definitive agreement is reached, of which there can be no assurance.

As we look forward, we believe there is value to be created in our business. Our goal first and foremost is to create an operating structure that gets us to operating profitability as quickly as possible.

While the market is still tough, we believe the best pathway forward is by focusing on our core strengths, by improving the lives of professionals and do it-yourselfers with innovative products that enrich outdoor spaces and leveraging our extensive distribution footprint with the industry's leading home improvement retail locations.

Through a focused approach that allows for better correlation between our cost and the prices we sell our products for, reduction in our exposure to carrying excess levels of inventory by adding direct import sales, which reduces our working capital needs. And a lean operating structure, we can exit fiscal 2026 in a dramatically improved financial position. And then as we monetize certain non-core assets, we can deliver added value to shareholders.

With that, let me now turn the call over to Mitch to review the financials in a bit more detail. We will then look to address your questions, Mitch.

Thank you, Chad. Good afternoon to everyone on the call today. My comments will focus on adding some color to key areas and events that had material influence on the fiscal year and the 4th quarter.

Now, let's start on the revenue line. For the year, total revenue was $41.3 million, down $5.8 million compared to the $47.1 million from last year. For the fourth quarter revenue was $10.4 million versus $13.2 million for the fourth quarter of last year. Despite the impact from the tariffs, our metal fence business was essentially flat from last year. This highlights our rationale to lean into our differentiated metal fence operations as the normalization in the market occurs and we come to the other side of this with better contractual structures with our retail customers.

Looking at the remainder of our operations, our lumber sales were down due to supply challenges and profitability to support this program remained undesirably low, due to the customer resistance to accept new prices, in a timely fashion.

As Chad mentioned, our primary lumber customer gave notice of their intention to transition away from our consignment arrangement in calendar 2026. We currently have about $5 million in excess lumber inventory which we acquired to meet the needs of the customer under our consignment arrangement. We're currently in discussions with this customer as well as other third parties regarding the purchase of this excess lumber inventory.

Our pet business was $4.3 million compared to $7.6 million last year, reflecting the overall weakness in the pet industry in general. Our greenwood industrial wood business saw 2% growth for the year, coming in at $3.8 million compared to $3.7 million while the sustainable or my eco world business, had revenue of $800,000 versus $1.5 million in, last fiscal year.

Turning the gross margins. Overall gross profit margins for the year were 15.1% compared to 18.8% in fiscal 2024. For the fourth quarter, gross margins were 8.2% compared to 14.5% in Q4 of last year. The declining gross margins were due to a combination of higher tariff costs, higher shipping costs, expenditures, on the continued rollout of in-store in-store display units, and a shift by customers towards lower margin products during the quarter.

Our 2025 margins were also negatively affected by an increase in our obsolete inventory reserve of 650,000 to 1.2 million, grom the 550,000 in fiscal 2024. We've made strenuous efforts to adjust our selling prices to correctly reflect the new tariff rates, but the rapid and unpredictable announcements of new rates, has made that process extremely difficult, which is largely dependent on our customers consenting to these higher prices in a timely manner.

Chad had mentioned this process in his remarks, but progress has been made, and we expect prices to normalize as the global economic situation stabilizes.

Turning to operating expenses. As a result of our cost reduction initiatives implemented through fiscal year '25, operating expenses decreased from $10.7 million last year to $10 million this year for the fourth quarter. Operating expenses were $2.3 million compared to $2.2 million in Q4 2024. As Chad mentioned, we have initiated a plan to further reduce operational expenses by an additional $1 million to $3 million annually moving forward. Net loss for the year was $4.1 million compared to 722,000 net income last year.

Looking specifically at the fourth quarter, net loss was $2.2 million compared to a $191,000 net loss, for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2024. For the year, the impact of tariffs was the primary driver that impacted a decrease in both sales and gross margins. Please remember that the last fiscal year also included a $2.45 million gain from a settled arbitration case against one of our former distributors.

Finally, a few comments on the balance sheet. Our inventory balance at August 31, 2025 was $15.9 million. And yes that does include the obsolete inventory reserve of $1.2 million. We are currently in discussions with the lumber customer as well as other third parties regarding the purchase of the remaining lumber inventory. We are also working with third-party liquidators to sell our high-quality but slow moving pet inventory which will provide us with cash and clear our warehousing and maintenance costs for these products.

As I communicated last quarter, based on the seasonality of our normal cash cycle, we typically see our working capital needs spike in the early spring as we transition our inventory to sales and collection. For this reason, coupled with the slower movement of certain inventories, we once again drew on our credit line at the end of the fiscal year. We had drawn $2.1 million against the credit line. However, as of November 28, 2025, our borrowing under the credit line was about $4.3 million.

Under the current terms of the credit line, our lender North Rim provides a short-term operating capital by purchasing the company's accounts receivable invoices and as a loan against our inventory position. The maximum we may borrow against the line is $6 million. We are currently discussing with North Rim to adjust the credit line to increase the maximum borrowing computation, which would provide us with additional financial flexibility and to raise the maximum amount available to us.

As Chad discussed, we will continue to focus on our operational strengths while reducing costs where possible in our efforts to increase our sales and margins and return to profitability. In addition, we're currently evaluating several different strategies to strengthen our liquidity position, many of which we discussed during this call and are otherwise detailed in our public reports.

With that, let me turn it back over to Chad.

Thanks, Mitch, for the overview. Clearly fiscal 2025 didn't go as we or anyone else expected. The results of the first half of the year versus the second half show a tale of two stories one pre-tariffs where we were in a growth trajectory, and one post-tariffs, which highlighted significant slowdown in sales and impact on our gross margins.

Our goal first and foremost is to create an operating structure that gets us to operating profitability as quickly as possible. We are executing on a plan to further reduce operating expenses by approximately $1 million to $3 million annually, and through a lean operating structure, we can exit fiscal 2026 in a dramatically improved financial position.

I look forward to communicating with you in the months to come as we continue to execute on these reformulated strategic initiatives. I thank you all for your continued interest and support of Jewett-Cameron and will now be happy to take any questions.

Robert, can you let me know if there are any questions?

Yeah, Chad, there's a couple of questions here. First off, can you provide, maybe some more details about the customer slow adoption of your price adjustments? Anything you can expand upon there?

Yes, absolutely, our customer relationships are such that, any of our price increases must be consented to by the customer. The customer may not agree to any increase or negotiate lower price increases, and any change may only be accepted after 30 to 90 days or longer, if at all.

Ultimately, many of our customers did not immediately accept higher prices for our products, which we adjusted in response to the increased costs associated with the tariffs and global trade disruption. The frequent changes to tariffs rates since February also caused some of the price changes we instituted in response to become obsolete before we could even pass them on to our customers.

This forced us to spend time to recalculate the new prices and begin the process of presenting them to and negotiating with our customers again, which further affected our ability to recapture our higher costs through increasing our sales prices.

All right, the next question here is, maybe you can discuss why your lumber customer decided to move forward without you.

Yes, good question. Jewett-Cameron, we have a long history of being a reliable secondary supplier of cedar fence boards, able to step in and fill gaps if and when primary suppliers face delays or challenges. We were honored to be able to step in and help our customer in a time of crisis when they were in need of a primary supplier for multiple distribution centers.

However, as I mentioned earlier, the consignment model slowed our cash flow, reduced our margins, and demanded additional internal resources to support the program. In addition to greatly increasing our lumber inventory requirements and tying up our capital, I presume their decision to switch suppliers aligns with their long-term strategic direction for the category.

While the program, did provide meaningful revenue for our business, we believe this transition will reduce our inventory burdens and allow us greater, focus on our metal fence products moving forward.

All right, thanks for that. Maybe you could expand on your decision to focus on the metal fence business as sort of the go forward strategy here.

Yes. Well, the Jewett Cameron, fence products, best represent our innovative abilities to deliver functional solutions to both pros and do it-yourselfers.

For example, our patented adjusted gate family of products is, virtually unrivaled as it prevents gates from sagging and provides an adjustable gate frame kit to perfectly fit the opening.

Our latest innovation, the Adjusted Gate Unlimited, is the only complete four corner gate on the market, and its low profile design offers a no sag technology that is low profile, so the metal is barely noticeable on a wood gate.

Developing these differentiated products that deliver value to end users is something Jewitt Cameron has excelled at throughout our history.

The Jewitt Cameron fence continued to grow post-pandemic, as I mentioned earlier and held steady in the midst of the tariffs this past year. We believe there's room to grow.

Our existing customers are requesting us to expand our fence products into thousands of stores. Our sales team is actively pursuing expanding channels and prospecting to make our products available wherever pros and do it-yourselfers want to buy these products.

And I would add too that our fence category offers a diversity of products that are well positioned for growth, such as our perimeter patrol, temporary fencing, and our high-quality, low maintenance composite EUR fence products in both existing and new sales channels.

All right. Thank you for that, Chad. Maybe we could talk a little bit about the timeline, for the and any asset sales.

Yeah, asset sales, as I mentioned earlier in my prepared remarks, we are engaged in a variety of preliminary discussions and we'll provide additional disclosures if and when definitive arrangements are entered into.

All right, there's a couple of additional questions here. Maybe we could expand a little bit on the increase in the credit line usage, from $2 million to $4 million. Is there anything that could be expanded upon there?

Well, I can take that. What I'd say is to fully capitalize on reformulated business strategy, we're actively pursuing strategic financing to accelerate our business plans.

To fund the core growth initiatives and to ensure robust operational capacity in the face of continuing global economic volatility.

So securing the capital is key to maintaining our ability to consistently purchase and deliver products.

Thereby supporting our customers in the normal course of our business of their business.

All right. Very good. Next question here is specifically as it relates to collateral, for the North Rim line of credit, is there anything you can expand upon there on what specifically is the collateral?

Currently our, agreement with, North Rim, provides for, the sale of accounts receivable and, they advance against, current, inventory and.

That's how we currently have that structured and that would remain in place.

All right. Very good. Maybe you could discuss, what range of cash do you estimate freeing up in the next six months from pet product liquidation and excess lumber inventory?

To the extent that you're able to provide any details on any of that.

Yeah, Mitch, I can speak to that, we won't be able to disclose that beyond what we've already kind of highlighted in the 10-K, I can't guarantee the value we're going to receive for that, but again, as previously mentioned, we are motivated.

And we'll be able to share that at a later date.

All right, very good, I think we're sort of at the top of the hour here on questions. If there's any additional questions, we'll look to to get these, addressed, directly I guess with that I will turn it over to, management for any closing remarks.

Well, again, thank you again for your interest in Jewitt Cameron, and I look forward to communicating with you in the months to come as we continue to execute on these reformulated strategic initiatives.

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.