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  • Operator

  • Good day, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the IRIDEX first quarter earnings release conference call. During today's presentation all parties are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions. (Operator Instructions). This conference is being recorded today, May 3, 2012. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Dominik Beck. Please go ahead.

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Good afternoon and welcome to IRIDEX Corporation's first quarter 2012 conference call. I am Dominik Beck, President and Chief Executive Officer. I am joined by Jim Mackaness, our CFO.

  • Before we get started, Susan Bruce, our Executive Administrator, will read the required Safe Harbor statement.

  • Susan Bruce - Executive Administrator

  • This conference call will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended and Section 21E of the Securities Act of 1934 as amended, relating to the Company's growth strategy including acquisitions, technology investments and strategic relationships, global and domestic market conditions, health care spending, market direction and trends, product demand and market acceptance of new products, gross margin, operating expense, controls, and the Company's 2012 financial outlook. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and actual results may differ materially from those described in these forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors.

  • Please see a detailed description of these and other risks contained in our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2011 which is filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Forward-looking statements contained in this conference call are made as of this date, and will not be updated.

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Susan. On last quarter's call, I spent time outlining the opportunities that I see for IRIDEX. And at the end of this call, I will return to these themes so that you can gain a better understanding of the opportunities and what we are doing to capitalize them on.

  • For my opening remarks, I will focus on our most recent quarter. We continued to make progress. We close the sale of our aesthetics business to Cutera for $5.1 million, and now have close to $14 million cash in the bank.

  • This provides us with a very good platform from which to take the Company forward with single focus on ophthalmology, which has always been the core expertise of the Company. And I will contain my remarks to our continuing ophthalmology business.

  • Our revenues increased compared to last year's Q1, although marginally. We recorded $8.3 million, up from $8.2 million. We did end the quarter with approximately $100,000 in backlog and consumables.

  • Early in the year we launched a couple of marketing programs to reposition certain consumable products in the glaucoma market, because we felt we had identified some good near- and long-term opportunities for our current products. As it turns out, our expectations were accurate and the market responded favorably. The corresponding increase in demand outstripped our planned Q1 supply of these products. We will be looking to build on that momentum going forward.

  • On the capital equipment side of the business, we did see some softening in orders for the domestic systems which we attributable to customers' uncertainty and a lingering reluctance to commit to capital purchases. We anticipate that the equipment business will in part be driven by macroeconomic factors until the technology paradigm we are driving gets more traction, at which point we believe we can accelerate the replacement cycle and grow the market independent of its natural or historic cycle.

  • Our gross margins were 48%, and I feel confident that with the modest increase in revenues, we will meet our short-term goal of 50%.

  • As part of our internal efforts to increase efficiencies, we did hire a new VP of Operations, Ron Steckel. The position had been vacant, and we have been looking for the right person to bring on board to ramp up manufacturing of our new products and drive internal manufacturing efficiencies as we plot our way forward achieving our long-term goal of gross margins above 55%. I believe Ron is an excellent addition to our management team and will play an important role in the future performance of the Company.

  • I mentioned on the last call that we plan to continue investing strategically in R&D programs as well as marketing and sales initiatives, and consequently our operating expenses were likely to increase to approximately $4.4 million with our Q1 coming in close to breakeven. Our operating expenses, in fact, came in at $4.2 million. But we did produce a small loss from continuing operations of $300,000 or $0.03 per share.

  • During the quarter, I am pleased to announce that we did complete the sale of our aesthetics business, and I am going to let Jim cover this further in his comments on discontinued operations.

  • We are well into the process of reorienting the Company to a more commercial focus to take advantage of opportunities driven by strong new market trends in ophthalmology. We were at the American Academy -- the American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgeons last month, and I was impressed by the direction and speed of new developments in glaucoma surgery and the steady output of new technologies that aim to enhance outcomes in cataract surgery.

  • In glaucoma, for example, several current technologies include the use of surgical drainage devices. These devices have attracted much attention, but thus far have not produced clear data indicating safety and effectiveness and are difficult to implant. Safe and easy to apply surgical options will always have greater appeal to physicians, and at least 10 companies are currently developing advanced glaucoma implants and devices targeting either the comprehensive ophthalmologist, for office-based procedures, or the cataract surgeon who will place an implant while performing cataract surgery.

  • This field is gaining traction and is driving -- and is driven by the goal to reduce medication. IRIDEX is already participating in this field, and we are aggressively developing technologies that will advance in-office laser procedure and devices that will fill the need of a larger segment of primary users.

  • As part of our growing commercial focus we have recently taken a number of steps that we consider to be just the beginning of the numerous market-facing initiatives. For example, we launched a new noninvasive in-office glaucoma procedure using MicroPulse targeting the glaucoma specialist and comprehensive ophthalmologist.

  • We also introduced marketing programs to reposition our G-Probe device for use in transscleral cyclophotocoagulation treatment. There is mounting evidence that this mentally invasive glaucoma surgical procedure can be safely used on patients much earlier in the disease state, and that our G-Probe is an excellent tool to achieve excellent outcomes.

  • We introduced the bridge-to-buy program targeting new users who want to enter the market and perform noninvasive glaucoma surgeries in their office.

  • And finally, we launched a physician and patient education website for the treatment of diabetic macular edema patients with MicroPulse, and conducted webinars, one taking place tonight, with live physician Q&A sessions to improve communications within the physician community.

  • These programs are representative of a range of activities that are in place or planned in the coming month. Although there are no guarantees that all these programs will produce the anticipated results, I am confident that the range of activities and initiatives will begin to impact our topline and further establish IRIDEX as an active driver of technology in the ophthalmic market.

  • In addition we are also making progress in optimizing MicroPulse technology for broader market adoption. The outcomes being produced and reported continue to be very compelling, and as that evidence mounts, we plan to have products that can be adopted by the entire range of practitioners from the specialist to the general eye care practitioner.

  • So now I'll turn the call over to Jim to go over more of the details of our financial results and then I will have some concluding remarks. Jim.

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Thanks, Dominik. As Dominik mentioned, we sold our aesthetics business unit to Cutera in February for $5.1 million, and therefore our financial statements reflect the results from our aesthetics business as discontinued operations, and the results of our ophthalmology business as continuing operations. Most of my following remarks will relate to our ongoing ophthalmology business.

  • Revenues for the first quarter 2012 were $8.3 million, up from $8.2 million from Q1, but down 3% from $8.6 million reported for the fourth quarter 2011.

  • Our fourth quarter is typically a seasonally high for us for system sales, because system sales are reflected -- affected by our customers' annual budgeting cycle. System sales for Q1 2012 were $3.9 million compared to $3.9 million for Q1 2011 and $4.4 million for Q4 2011.

  • Recurring revenues for the first quarter 2012 were $4.4 million, representing 52.7% of our total revenues. This was up $0.2 million or 5% from Q1 2011 and also up sequentially $0.3 million or 7% from Q4.

  • For retinal consumables we are benefiting from a ramp-up in sales from our distribution and licensing partner Alcon, although we need to do more to address the challenges we face on the rest of the retinal consumable product portfolio. And we are benefiting in the increasing sales of our glaucoma consumables, and in fact ended up the quarter with $100,000 in backlog. And this uptick may be the result of early returns on specific glaucoma marketing initiatives we launched in Q1, although it is too early to tell for sure.

  • Gross margins were 48.0% for the first quarter 2012 compared to 49.8% for Q1 2011 and 49.6% for Q4 2011. Overall direct margins on products improved slightly, and there was an increase in manufacturing expenses due to rebalancing of reallocated cost as a result of carving out the aesthetics business. Our near-term target remains 50%.

  • Operating expenses were $4.2 million for the quarter, up from $3.8 million for Q1 2011 and down from $4.4 million, which represents Q4 2011 operating expenses excluding the $1.3 million settlement credit we booked in Q4. The increase in expenses year-over-year is in product development as we look to accelerate the flow of new products, and marketing, as we embark upon new commercialization programs. In addition, we incurred $100,000 in severance payments in G&A relating to non-aesthetic employees who were terminated following the sale of the aesthetics business.

  • Taking all of these items into consideration, we did report a loss from continuing operations for the quarter of $0.3 million or $0.03 per share compared to net income of $0.2 million or $0.02 per share for Q1 2011, and net income of $0.8 million or $0.08 per share for Q4 2011. The Q4 result includes the $1.3 million settlement credit.

  • Overall net income including discontinued operations was $1.6 million for the quarter or $0.18 per share, compared with $0.6 million or $0.06 per share for Q1 2011 and $0.8 million or $0.08 per share for Q4 2011.

  • With regards to discontinued operations, we booked a book gain on the sale of $1.1 million. However, for tax purposes, the sale created a tax loss of [$18.5 million]. We were able to carry the tax loss back to 2010 and 2011 to reclaim taxes paid in those periods. So we booked a tax benefit of $0.6 million in anticipation of filing a receiving a tax refund.

  • We have also booked an additional tax benefit of $0.3 million because we were able to reduce our FIN 48 tax liability for those years and recovered $0.5 million in other credits. We have approximately $14.5 million of NOLs to carry forward to use against current year and future year profits.

  • Looking to the second quarter for fiscal 2012, we are anticipating revenues between $8.5 million to $8.8 million, gross margins between 49% and 51%, and operating expenses between $4.2 million and $4.4 million.

  • In closing, but Company continues to execute its share repurchase program, although we are limited by FCC regulations in how active we can be in the market. During the quarter we purchased approximately 47,000 shares at an average of $4.10. And the Board of Directors has approved an extension of the program through March 2013 and an increase in the amount of cash available for the program to a total of $4 million.

  • And with that I'll turn the call back over to Dominik.

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Thank you, Jim. I have received a lot of feedback from investor community curious about our plans to invest in people and projects necessary to grow the Company. We know the replacement markets we serve grow on average in the single digits, and we know from our past performance that we were able to participate well in those replacement markets and growing at single digit, managing those sales to be profitable and cash flow positive.

  • We also understand that driving shareholder value will require more than that. Fortunately, the markets we serve are very large and very dynamic because the diseases in question -- retinal diseases and glaucoma -- currently have no long-term cures. Those markets are poised for next-generation therapies and surgeries, and we have key solutions for key clinical challenges in those areas.

  • Therefore, we fundamentally believe that there are opportunities for IRIDEX to generate a growing footprint in these markets, and as a result, grow on average by more than 10% organically on a regular basis. To do this, we must reorient the Company to a more commercial focus and invest in people and programs to execute upon the opportunity.

  • To provide a specific example, IRIDEX offers the aforementioned G-Probe as a single use disposable delivery device that allows the glaucoma specialist to treat the patient in the office for glaucoma. Historically this procedure has been relegated to final stage glaucoma. That is, all other options have been tried first and this is the last stop.

  • However, there is no medical reason why G-Probe is used last. In fact, if you talk to physicians and discuss the use of the G-Probe, they quickly come to the realization that the procedure can be very beneficial to the patient and should be introduced much earlier in a disease progression.

  • Since the G-Probe is a single use device, a small uptick in number of early use procedures could increase that high margin revenue stream by a couple of million dollars per year.

  • As a result of this and other similar opportunities, we think it makes sense to invest. Historically on a carved-out basis, our operating expenses were approximately $3.8 million per quarter. Our plans call for us to make additional quarterly investments of approximately $600,000 per quarter in the following areas.

  • First, and the majority in product development and marketing in support of our glaucoma initiatives including the G-Probe I have mentioned, and to bring additional glaucoma consumables products to the market is what the underlying reason for making our investment in the Alcon [ethics] in the fourth quarter of last year.

  • Second, an ongoing investment in development of delivery devices to accelerate market adoption of MicroPulse. And third, investments in our sales channel to capture the additional revenue from the additional progress and programs.

  • We have added one salesperson in Q1 and we'll be adding 1 to 2 new salespeople to the field between now and the year-end. While such additions rarely make immediate impact, we believe that a shifting equipment paradigm and gaps in our current sales coverage represent an opportunity worth investing. We will continue to report on our progress as we grow the commercial team.

  • I am convinced that these investments are measured and the expected returns on each will be significant. We will keep you posted on these programs' progress and as they bear fruit in the marketplace.

  • In addition to these 2012 internal initiatives, the strength of our balance sheet and our current cash position will help us to identify and execute on new commercial alliances, in-licensing and M&A opportunities that the Company did not have just a few quarters back. We are assessing a number of such opportunities and will continue to entertain solid ideas point forward.

  • I am very enthusiastic about the opportunities that lie ahead, and I am impatient, as I'm sure you are, to see these opportunities show up as revenue growth.

  • I'll now open the line for questions. Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Larry Haimovitch, HMT.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • Dominik, question for you. My understanding is that the patent on Selective Laser Trabeculoplasty will come off in about 15 months. To the extent you are comfortable talking about it in a public sense, what can you tell us about IRIDEX and the opportunity to enter SLT?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • So, at the recent ACRS show in Chicago, we did actually launch an MLT program, which is a MicroPulse Laser Trabeculoplasty procedure, together with our IQ532 green laser. So this is a new approach we just launched which we felt quite comfortable will actually fill some of that market that will open up.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • So does that -- I'm assuming that that means you don't have to worry about the SLT patent, then, by doing MLT rather than SLT? You are going around the patent, so to speak?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • That is pretty much our approach yes.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • And I missed the share buyback. I thought you said the Board authorized an additional $4 million. Did I catch that right?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Authorized up to $4 million.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • Up to $4 million.

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Took it from $2 million up to $4 million. Yes.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • And that's -- so theoretically, if you could buy as much as $4 million this year, you would. Is that what you're saying?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Correct. Yes.

  • Operator

  • Stan Mann, Mann Family Investments.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • First I have some questions on just the numbers reported. I'm puzzled by the share count moving down from 10 million something to 8.9 million something, and I'm wondering if that's correct.

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • The reason on this quarter was because we have a loss in the continuing operations, we actually have to use the basic share number both in the basic calculation and in the diluted calculation. That is a GAAP requirement that we have to do it that way.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • So, our outstanding real shares are the 10 million as reported, 10 million something as reported last year?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Yes. 10.2 million is what you and I would normally refer to as the fully diluted number. Correct.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. The other thing is, in your fourth quarter report, you had a buyback of seemingly more than you had in total buybacks this year. And I'm puzzled. You had 168,000 and now you have 157,000. I'm just trying to understand. These are not my major questions; I'm just trying to clarify.

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • That is a good point. The 168,000 included 76,000 shares bought before we put the stock purchase plan into place. When we made reference to the 157,000 on his earnings release we excluded, because we were trying to refer to just shares bought under the stock purchase.

  • The easiest way to think about it is, current, we bought in total 233,000 up through the end of April. And I apologize for the confusion.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. Just one other cleaning up the sheet. You have current assets that are aesthetic of $1.398 million. I assume that is receivables you kept.

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Correct. Predominantly receivables, yes; we didn't sell the receivables.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • So those are collectible and really -- those are collectible?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Yes. At this stage we did go through them to make sure we put what we thought was a sensible reserve against any doubtful accounts and the remainder are ones that, yes, we should be collecting and turning into cash.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. So you really have close to $15 million in cash when you collect those?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Yes.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. Now my real question; I'm trying to understand how you are going to sell all of these new programs. How many current salesmen direct do we have?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • In the US there is 12 direct sales people.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. OUS, Europe?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Well, we are dealing with 4 area sales managers OUS that serve in the order of 70 distributors. We don't have an actual count of how many sales individuals are within those distributors, but assuming that there's at least one per country, so there is at least an additional 70 individuals out there.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. And your plan to add strictly US direct -- the one you've added -- the 12 includes the one you added this quarter?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • That is correct. 12 includes the one individual that I added in quarter one. And the 1 to 2 does include an additional in-US and eventually additional OUS.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay, so you -- is that 1 to 2 per quarter or -- 1 to 2 for the rest --

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • For the rest of the year.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay, so that would expand -- not a lot. So, my basic question is how are you going to move significant volume through that small sales group, and one that is not expanding rapidly?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • The products that we are looking at and the programs that we are looking at can actually, in terms of capital equipment, very well be moved through our current channels and current direct sales force. The consumable pieces, there is one aspect of additional product in the consumable product range where we eventually will have to pick new channel partners or additional channel partners to the existing ones.

  • So, for example, also with Alcon, as we did in Q4, where we signed our distribution agreement, part of the consumable piece and the growth in the consumables is relying on partners such as Alcon.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. So you feel you can grow double-digit with the plan you have in place?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Correct.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay, outside, are you satisfied with your distribution model outside the US? I ask this -- (multiple speakers)

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • With a model -- excuse me. Yes, with the model moving forward I am satisfied. With the model I currently have existing, I definitely have identified gaps and we do have plans to expand our direct footprint eventually as well.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • And like Germany or UK, where you have --

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • I wouldn't go into specifics at this point, but pointing in the right direction.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay domestic -- what is our split, domestic and OUS? Just -- I'm sure everybody's interested.

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • It is about 50%/50%.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • It is 50%/50%. And growing similarly?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Yes. It has been around 50%/50% for the last couple of quarters.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay, and so they are kind of equivalent performance?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Yes.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. Last question is on your acquisition program, and I think we've talked, Dominik, that I think using the money to try and accretively add is a better way than buying back stock, but that is your call and the Board's. Do you see near-term acquisition that you've -- that you are far enough along to say in the fiscal year we will see something significant?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • I have one relationship in mind which I'm very excited about, and we are working hard to make it happen in this fiscal year.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • You are. And it would be sizable or significant?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • In regards of our targets, growth targets, it will have a significant impact.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • It would have -- so it is -- unlike prior recent acquisitions, it could add -- it would add sales?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Correct. It would add sales.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • It would. And my other part of that is, would it be accretive? Since the acquisitions a long time ago that you didn't have anything to do with nearly destroyed the Company, so would you consider these accretive or safe or balanced?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Balanced is a good word. (laughter)

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • (inaudible) is a good word. Okay. That's good. Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Larry Haimovitch, HMT.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • This is for Jim. I'm just following up on Stan's question. The public release for the Cutera deal said $5.1 million in cash. It sounds from -- to me, from what I've just heard, is that did not include the receivables, which would in fact make the purchase price $5.1 million plus the receivable. Is that logical?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Yes, we received $5.1 million from Cutera for the assets they bought. And they did not buy the receivables.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • So you get to keep the receivables, which thus becomes cash.

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Correct. And -- but we did also have some exiting costs, again, because it wasn't as though -- it wasn't a share purchase, if you like. So the $5.1 million, we used something like about $800,000 in cash to extinguish the liabilities related to the aesthetics business. But we also got the receivables to keep -- to collect going forward.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • So what is the net of all of that, Jim? I mean is there a way to net it out? Or is it really more than $5.1 million? Or how would you net it out?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • I would say it comes out right around $5.1 million. With the receivables we got, offset the liabilities we had to pay.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • Okay, so $5.1 million is a good round number, then?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Yes.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • Dominik, you and I have talked about this, of course, in the past and to the extent that you are comfortable expanding at all on acquisitions, strategic alliance opportunities, have you had much opportunity of late to start focusing on that? You just mentioned the one deal you're working on, but can you give us sort of an update on where you stand there?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • The first quarter was difficult for me to really go out and explore a lot. There is more effort following that, but there was one -- at least that one relationship we strengthened that seems to have followed a very good timely path, and I'm looking forward to getting that done here in the near future.

  • Besides that, if we look at our -- and I alluded to that earlier. The need to grow adoption for MicroPulse is dependent on additional technology, and those technologies have been more are less identified. So we have now at least a good understanding what are we targeting in those technologies, and we have identified targeted technology carriers.

  • So, that is the extent that I can talk to in regard of MicroPulse and adoption of MicroPulse. The next move we're doing is clearly catering towards the consumables and recurring revenue piece.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • Okay. And those are things you are actively looking at?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Correct. Yes.

  • Larry Haimovitch - Analyst

  • Okay. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Stan Mann, Mann Family Investments.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Gentlemen, just a last question. On your quarterly report, what part of the -- what's reported is non-recovering one-time, so that we can actually assess the statement as it would be without the nonrecurring event?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Are you particularly like focusing price -- you mean on the operating expense line item? Is that where you are focused on?

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Wherever you think there is nonrecurring. I'm trying to take your reported quarter and look at it with just the expenses that are normal, quarter to quarter.

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Right. So, for the continued operations, we came in with a margin of 48%. We said we think that's going to -- should be able to get up 50% in the near term. That is our target there.

  • You know, so there's -- and as Dominik mentioned, privately driven by revenue growth. There's not really much that we see non-normative in our expense side.

  • On the operating expenses, you know, we had $4.2 million. There was $100,000 we referenced in severance costs in the $4.2 million. But our target is looking to be somewhere between the $4.2 million and the $4.4 million going up. So those are kind of our steady-state goals.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. So -- and the only other part of it, of course, is the sale -- the gain on the sale of the aesthetics business.

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • Yes, and that is all put down in those discontinued -- we call that out in the discontinued operations.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. And the severance costs are all done?

  • Jim Mackaness - CFO

  • All done. Yes.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • And the new -- the operating individual. Is he new?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Yes, he's new. (technical difficulty) April.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • You added an operations manager.

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Well, we had the VP of Operations and that was a vacant position for quite some time now. Prior to vacating this position, the prior VP of Operations was actually operating from a remote location. So, now we brought one in that has a tight focus on efficiency and productivity improvements and increases. So, and on internal programs, also addressing our probe manufacturing and assembly.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay, so there are not two individuals. You said somebody was from remote. Is that person or individual gone?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Yes. This individual is terminated.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. So it is a balance. You've got --?

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Right. Right. It's a wash.

  • Stan Mann - Analyst

  • Okay. Now I understand. Okay. Thank you very much.

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • You're welcome.

  • Operator

  • There are no further questions. I would like to turn it back over to Management.

  • Dominik Beck - President and CEO

  • Thank you for participating in this call and for your interest in IRIDEX. We look forward to sharing our progress with you at our next call.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the IRIDEX first-quarter earnings release conference call. If you'd like to listen to today's replay, the phone number is 1-800-406-7325, access ID 453-3749. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.