Inseego Corp (INSG) 2025 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Hello and welcome to Inseego Corp's 3rd quarter 2025 financial results conference call. (Operator instructions). On the call today are Juho Sarvikas, Chief Executive Officer, and Steven Gatoff, Chief Financial Officer.

During this call, certain non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed. A reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included in the earnings release, which is available on the investors section of the company's website. An audio replay of this call will also be archived there.

Please also be advised that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are not historical facts but rather are based on the company's current expectations and beliefs. For a discussion on factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations, please refer to the risk factors described in the company's form 10k, 10Q, and other SEC filings which are available on the company's website.

Please also refer to the cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements section contained in today's press release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Juho Sarvikas, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us today. Q3 was another strong quarter for NIO. We generated revenue of $45.9 million and adjusted EBITDA of $5.8 million, both above guidance and marking our second consecutive quarter of sequential growth in both metrics. Operationally, we continue to execute on the growth strategy I laid out earlier this year. Our strategy focuses on scaling our core FWA and mobile solutions in the enterprise market while also evolving into a solutions company that integrates hardware, network management, and software into a single platform, enabling enterprises, carriers, MSOs, MSPs, and bars to build their wireless practice on Ngo.

Our progress in executing and advancing these strategic value creation goals this quarter is reflected on three key accomplishments. First, we extended our FWA leadership while continuing to drive mobile performance. On FWA we did this by driving growth with the FX4100 and expanding our portfolio with the announcement of our premium FX 4200, which extends our time.

As we announced on our last call, we also added a third tier one US carrier across both FWA and mobile, starting to contribute revenue later in Q4. Second, we advanced the realization of our solution strategy with a major new release of Insego Connect, expanding our software foundation for growth. And third, we further strengthen our leadership bench with the addition of seasoned C-level executives and 2 new operating experts on our board of directors, further enhancing our ability to scale and deliver a sustainable, profitable growth.

On today's call, I'll walk through these 3 key accomplishments beginning with FWA. We continue to see strong demand for the FX4100 with T-Mobile, where deployments have scaled meaningfully across key verticals including retail and utilities. These wins underscore the FX4100's ability to deliver enterprise grade requirements across a broad spectrum of industries and company sizes. It's clear that our FWA solutions are gaining traction beyond early adopters and becoming a trusted primary option for mission critical connectivity.

In Q3, FWA customer demand exceeded our joint expectations with our partner T-Mobile. On the supply side, our team executed with precision, ensuring products reach customers quickly and reliably to capture a meaningful amount of upside. This was a direct contributor to our Q3 financial results.

Overall, FWA shipment volumes were up more than 50% year over year, underscoring the strong and growing enterprise adoption of our FWA solutions and the effectiveness of our go to market execution with carriers. Along that line, carrier diversification has also been a key area of progress. As we highlighted on our last call, we secured a new tier 1 US carrier win during Q3, which will begin selling both our FWA products and soon to be announced new Wi-Fi device. With this addition, Inseego is now aligned with 3 major US tier one carriers, broadening our reach and supporting share gains in both FWA and mobile hotspots. Building on this momentum, last week we introduced the FX4200, the next phase of our FWA growth story, with shipments beginning in Q4.

This premium tier enterprise grade product eliminates the traditional trade-off between capability and ease of use, delivering both advanced performance and simplicity. It creates a higher value tier in our portfolio, broadens use cases, and expands our market opportunities while maintaining the reliability and security Inseego is known for. When paired with the X700 mesh access point and our Inseego connect SAS platform, the FX 4,200 becomes a complete enterprise solution, expanding our TA, creating SAS attached opportunities and supporting incremental reoccurring revenue growth. Importantly, the FX4200 also enables us to move upmarket into larger enterprise and creates a new path to market via MSOs who can augment their existing networks with cellular capabilities.

For enterprises, the need is clear, reliable connectivity that is cost effective and easy to deploy. For carriers, FWA creates new revenue streams and a faster return on network investment. What's been missing is the right solution, one that combines enterprise great features with ease of use and strong economics. That's where Inseego comes in. With our FX 4200 platform and integrated solutions stack, we're uniquely positioned to meet this need and create value for both carriers and enterprises. Together, these factors make FWA a compelling connectivity option, and Ego is well positioned to capitalize by expanding our product portfolio, adding new carriers, and deepening our engagement with MSOs, MSPs, and VRs.

Moving to our mobile business. In Q3, mobile remained a solid revenue contributor driven primarily by our largest tier one carrier. We are also refreshing our MIFI lineup and expect to be in the market with all three carriers in Q1. Collectively, our FWA and mobile businesses are performing well. FWS gaining momentum with new products and customer wins while mobile provides a steady revenue base that will expand as our new tier one carrier ramps. Together, these businesses create a stronger and more diversified growth platform as we head into 2026.

On our second topic, solutions. In Q3, we advanced one of the two key growth vectors of our strategy with a major new release of Inseego Connect, our cloud native SAS platform for Inseego FWA and mobile devices and network management. This release elevates Connect from a supporting tool to a core part of our enterprise offering tightly integrated with the FX4100 and the new FX4200. With zero touch provisioning, integrated security and APIs for large scale deployments.

Inseego Connect enables carriers, MSOs, service providers, MSPs, and enterprises to deploy and manage 5G edge networks more efficiently. Importantly, it also creates SAS attached opportunities that expand our TA and support reoccurring revenue growth. Also on the solution side, our wireless provider subscriber management platform Inseego Subscribe as further value by enabling carriers and service providers to manage users of wireless networks across any device. From onboarding and authentication to entitlements, policy controls and billing. In doing so, subscribe simplifies operations, improves visibility into network usage, and creates new monetization opportunities through subscription-based services to lower service providers, customer acquisition cost and operation cost. This overall progress underscores how we're executing on our strategy to evolve into a solutions company. As we scale these solutions and broaden adoption, having the right leadership in place will be critical to sustain this momentum.

Which brings me to our 3rd topic, further strengthening our leadership team to support our next phase of growth. Along that line, we recently added a proven leader in marketing and a senior technology promotion on the leadership team. Donna Johnson joined as Chief Marketing Officer, bringing more than 20 years of enterprise marketing and channel experience. She most recently served as CMO of Ericsson Enterprise Wireless Solution following its acquisition of Cradle Point, where she was a founding leader who helped establish the company as a pioneer in enterprise wireless edge solutions.

Vishal Donthireddy was promoted to Chief Technology Officer, reflecting his two decades of innovation at Inseego. Since joining in 2005, he has led product development from 2G to 5G Advanced, spearheading industry firsts and delivering award-winning hardware and cloud managed solutions. In addition to these management team ads, I'm thrilled to welcome two accomplished operating executives to. Board of directors Nabil Bukhari, President AI Platforms and CTO at Extreme Networks, has led the company's transformation into an AI and SAS-driven networking leader. Nabeel brings deep expertise in product innovation, subscription models, and scaling cloud platforms with a track record of turning advanced technologies into customer-ready solutions.

And Steven Bai, President and CEO of UCL, who brings more than 30 years of leadership across carriers and broadband providers worldwide, including Dish, Echostar, Sprint, Cox, AT&T, Telstra, and Optus. Steven has been at the forefront of connectivity evolution from dishes 5G build out to the emerging frontiers of 6G and satellite services with extensive operational and strategic expertise in scaling networks. Both Nabil and Steven are recognized thought leaders whose operating experience in SAS, AI, and carrier strategy will be invaluable as we expand our solutions portfolio and accelerate in Sego's transformation.

With these leadership petitions combined with the execution we've delivered through 2025, we are well positioned to build on our momentum as we close the year and move into 2026. Since joining ICO in January, I've been proud of what the team has accomplished. In less than a year, we've set out a compelling strategy, broadened our customer base, refreshed and expanded our solution portfolio, and strengthened our leadership bench, creating a scalable platform for sustainable growth.

Looking ahead, our focus is clear drive sustainable growth, SA enabled solutions, deeper customer partnerships, and disciplined execution. With that, I'll turn it over to Steven to review our financial results and outlook in more detail. Over to you, Steven.

Thanks you Juho. Hi everyone. Thank you for joining us. I'd like to cover three topics today. First, I'll take you through our Q3 2025 financial results. Second, I'll provide a brief update on our capital structure. And third, I'll share some colour on the financial profile of the business and provide guidance for Q4 2025. As we always do, we'll wrap up by opening the call to your questions.

Let's start with Q3 results. We delivered our second consecutive quarter of sequential revenue growth, as you just heard you highlight. That performance was again paired with strong growth margins and with an efficient spend profile, we also delivered meaningful operating leverage and sequential growth in adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin.

On the top-line, total revenue for Q3 was $45.9 million and was driven by three dynamics. One, a particularly strong ramp in our FWA FX4100 product following its Q2 2025 launch, as you have talked about. Two, solid volumes of our MIFI M3100. And three, continued solid contribution from our software services offerings.

It's notable to call out that FWA revenue was the second highest in company history and surpassed mobile hotspot revenue again this quarter, which is now the 3rd time that's occurred. That crossover is a tangible data point of our strategy at work, scaling FWA over time, shifting the revenue mix, and positioning the company for durable growth.

As we've communicated, mobile revenue came in lower year over year as expected, reflecting the record carrier promotion in 2024. As a bit of a preview to our guidance, we see mobile revenue growing sequentially in Q4 2025 from a more fulsome contribution from an expanded customer set and products as new programs launch and our product line refresh begins to hit the market.

And our software services revenue, which is comprised of our Inseego Connect MDM cloud offerings for Inseego devices, and our Inseego subscribe SAs offering for mobile subscriber acquisition and management came in at a consistent $12 million as expected and providing stable high margin revenue and profitability. Non-GAAP gross margin was 41.8% in Q3, reflecting a favourable product mix year over year and particular strength in FWA. Non-GAAP operating expenses came in at $15.6 million reflecting some non-recurring one-time items in G&A and an increase in DNA on our decided investments in new products that are coming to market.

Pulling this all together, Q3 2025 adjusted EBITDA was $5.8 million subsequentially and at a margin of 12.5%, the third highest in more than a decade. We ended Q3 with a solid $14.6 million in cash and healthy working capital and leverage metrics to provide that. Flexibility as we continue executing on our growth initiatives. We also closed the quarter with a very manageable total debt balance of $40.9 million or approximately 2 times LTM adjusted EBITDA.

That balance sheet strength is the foundation for how we run the business, and it leads directly to my second topic, our continued capital structure strengthening. Last month we took the prudent step and filed a universal shelf, a move that we believe enhances our financial flexibility and ensures we remain well positioned to execute on our growth strategy.

The shelf complements other actions we've taken to increase financial flexibility, including the $15 million revolving credit facility that we put in place in August and of course the reduction of more than $130 million in debt over the past year or so. Altogether these actions strengthen our balance sheet, provide additional flexibility to invest when and where needed to drive growth, and support long-term shareholder value.

With that context, our capital position, let me now turn to our guidance for Q4 2025. 2025 has been a foundational year as we invested in and scaled new products, advanced our software platforms, and won the third tier one carrier customer on both mobile hotspot and FWA. We're starting to see the business evolve along the strategic lines that you have set out and for 2024 for Q4 2025 rather reflecting those initiatives we're looking to drive continued sequential revenue growth over Q3.

That's particularly notable as our business has been somewhat seasonal with Q4 being marginally lower than Q3 for each of the previous three years, and we expect growth in Q4 2025 despite the fact that Q3 was just a record FWA quarter. Q4 2025 mobile revenue is showing particular strength and is expected to generate solid sequential growth in Q4 2025. We're seeing higher volumes in our carrier customers, a nice reflection of our expanded offerings across our customer base.

On FWA, while we expect our offerings to deliver a strong quarter in Q4 2025, we also just saw a record quarter in FWA in Q3, and so we're not expecting that same elevated revenue levels in back to back quarters and finally, software services revenue is expected to remain consistent at approximately $12 billion.

In terms of margins, non-GAAP growth margin is expected to be modestly lower in Q4 2025 on a greater proportion of mobile hotspot revenue, more consistent with historical levels in the high 30s on a percentage basis.

One aspect of COGS that we'll talk more about as we move into 2026 is the global dynamic of rising costs in the memory market that is impacting everyone. We don't see a material impact for Q4 2025, but with a large player shifting capacity to cater to AI along with other buyers across the industry, we're seeing a tightening in the market. We're comfortable with the current dynamics and have fully factored that into our expectations for Q4 2025. We'll keep you posted as we move into 2026.

Turning to non-gas operating expense. For total OpEx dollars in Q4 2025, we expect an increase in sales and marketing to drive growth and in R&D as we fund new products, as we've discussed our robust new product launch. And are also expected to drive higher levels of capitalized software development costs in Q4. Importantly, we're driving efficiencies across the company and expect G&A to improve as a percentage of revenue going forward.

Pulling this all together, we're providing the following guidance for Q4 2025. Total revenue in a range of $45 million to $48 million and adjusted EBITDA in a range of $4 million to $5 million. With that, we appreciate your time and support. We're glad to open the call for questions. Operator.

Thank you. (Operator instructions).

Scott Searle from Roth Capital.

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Nice job on the quarter, guys. Hey, Steven, may, maybe to start on subscribe and connect. As you started to make some changes in investment, I'm wondering if you could take us through how the monetization changes, and how you go to market and access to the channel, how we should be thinking about how that ramps up in 2026 and beyond.

Let's go, maybe I'll start with the Inseego connect part. Today, we have a strong attach with our FWA together with the lead big carrier partner. What we've done and what's really important to understand with this FX4200 launches that we've graduated Inseego Connect from what you could look at as a support tool to a core part of the enterprise platform and we're driving usage to the cloud. The FX4200 will do a couple of things for us. It's going to expand our presence with the MSPs and MSOs as well as provide expansion with the carrier channel. So what you can expect to see with the FS4200 and with sequential launches is a richer value capture when it comes to the what I would call device cloud

And then, good question on subscribe the counterpart on the software services, it's in a piece of the business, Scott, that you know and as others know we've begun to invest in it's a really compelling part of the portfolio that complements what we do with our carrier customers and our MSOs and all of the strategic service providers that have similar, wireless subscriber models and so we continue to invest in that we just. Onboarded and hired two executives in that business and so they're getting up to speed right now and so 2026 is what we look to be a growth here in that part of the business on the software side.

Okay, thank you, very helpful. And maybe looking out into the 1st quarter, I think you addressed that, sequential growth within the 4th quarter. There's typically a little bit of seasonality within that. I think as carriers have historically kind of worked down their inventory levels, but given the new product launches that you're expecting, it sounds like across my FY in addition to, new carrier winds starting to ramp up. Does one, does the first quarter have different seasonality where we see sequential growth, starting a little bit higher, in the first quarter as we start to progress into 2026?

Yeah, it's a really good point and also just to clarify a bit. Part of the reason that Q4 is seasonal is just fewer selling days and weeks at the risk of stating the obvious with the last two weeks of December and the Thanksgiving week is just the 3 fewer weeks and so there's a little bit of math less so industry dynamics, whereas what you said in in our view, Scott, is that you do see some end of year buying and inventory management so that sometimes January is a slower month and so Q1. It's been a little bit, different year to year here, but you know we, are focused on, making the most as we go into the year.

And hey Scott, on your note on this, new carrier ramp and brought renewal, I believe we mentioned this in the prepared marks but when it comes to MIFI, the new carrier cost, will start. Their revenue in Q1. In addition, we're renewing the existing two MIFI customers in Q1. What you should expect to see us do is to enter a, I'll call it a higher velocity. Price point in the market drive significant shares, share gain when it comes to volume share, and with that continue to drive, MIFI growth. Meanwhile, in the FWA, the new carrier, we will start shipping a bit later in Q4, and then of course with that we'll be in full motion with the new carrier and with the FX4200 come Q1.

Got you. And if I could, just one last one, Yo, I guess from a higher-level conceptual view of the industry, there's been a lot of different dynamics going on, starting with AT&T, buying EchoStar Spectrum. So, a couple of things. I'm wondering, how are you seeing that kind of play out into 2026 in terms of investment and growth in FWA in general, with the 4200 as well, you've put a stake in the ground with more processing power at the edge, and I'm wondering how that's. Driving not only adoption cycles from a carrier perspective but also revenue generating opportunities for Inseeigo with recurring and otherwise and then maybe just some thoughts as well in terms of the competitive landscape. It seems like you guys continue to gain share. Just kind of curious as to your high-level thoughts in terms of what you're seeing on the competitive front. Thanks.

It’s got an excellent set of questions. Let me start with the with the opportunity when it comes to wireless broadband. You're correct. Like if you look at the addressable market today, I would say that it's heavily constrained by available spectrum, right, because the carrier needs to make sure that they take care of the high RP mobile customers.

What happened with the EchoStar transaction with AT&T is that AT&T's Midband assets dramatically increased, and that's really the sweet spot for FWA deployment. You might have seen there was some new news from FCC this week that they're looking at releasing more upper CPA, I believe it was 150 megahertz. All of this creates significant Opportunity for the carrier to drive more FWA deployment.

Why I think that we're extremely well positioned to capture that opportunity is that we operate in the enterprise or in the business segment of the carrier portfolio, which obviously has a higher R for the carrier than the consumer FWA. In addition, if you look at the business FWA or enterprise FWA, it consumes on average 1/8. Of the network resource or bandwidth of a consumer household.

So I think that trend is going to be extremely favourable for us, and we look forward to being the partner of choice for the carriers with our solution offer which is really designed to deliver enterprise grade wireless broadband that's easy to use, easy to deploy, and fits well with the carrier go to market motion where we also have significant investment. The opportunity space is huge, and to your point, continues to expand. One of the key things here becoming the spectrum availability.

There's competition in the marketplace, but my very simple view here is that I think we have a unique position. On the other end of the spectrum, you have consumer grade, you could call white label FWA, and then you have very heavy complex. High cost of ownership solutions. We want to be that partner that's capable of driving mass scale deployment in strong alignment with the carrier and also starting with the MSOs and the MSPs like we mentioned, the preferred markets.

Great, thanks so much. I'll get back in the queue.

Thanks. Thanks, Scott.

Christian Schwab from Craig-Hallum.

Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on the great quarter. If you look at the new customer ramping on both 6 wireless and mobile, can you give us an idea of the range of potential outcomes over the calendar 2026, from revenue from this customer?

So if you look at the new cost edition, the hotspot or MIFI market is roughly, this is not like exact accurate science, but you can think of it as 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 across the three carriers and now what we've done is that we've unlocked the missing 1/3. So, we expect to see significant volume growth. There is ASP erosion in the category, but that will be offset by.

That will be offset by the increase in volume and that gives us good confidence on the MIFI side. On FWA we have this unique motion with one of the largest tier ones, T-Mobile. Today that I was just describing, we're super excited to establish the same partnership on FWA, also with our new carrier customer.

Great, thank you. My second question has to do with the software, business, given, the broadening of this customer in particular but also some of your other tier ones, I'm under the impression that a substantial portion of your software revenue comes from T-Mobile. Is there an opportunity at some point in calendar 26 that they would that any that other tier one customers could adopt the same software platform to manage the network that T-Mobile uses?

Yeah, Christian is a really good question and it's spot on what we were just talking about a moment ago which is we do share that view and see a lot of opportunity for subscribe and see go subscribe is the wireless subscriber, IOT, device management, across agnostic across all devices and carriers. Platform, and so, you may have heard me mention we just onboarded and created new roles, new leadership roles that did not exist at the company, and so, the board, the exec team are investing, time, energy, people, and capital to build the platform because of what you said. We see a decided opportunity, awesome that we have a large customer at tier one. Great, no reason in the world why we shouldn't have more.

And if you look at the Inseego Connect, which is the device attached cloud, obviously the name of the game is install base. So, I'm very happy with the solution that we've built, and now it's a matter of scaling that in the marketplace with a strong FWA attached. So if you take a longer time horizon, a couple of years out, that's going to be a meaningful growth trajectory for us as well.

Great, and if I could just sneak in one last question, regarding Scott's question on the market share gains in the competitive environment, do you see an opportunity as, you roll out, new products targeted to the distribution channel and potentially, less foreign competition?

I'm sorry, can you repeat the last part? I'm not sure if I heard you.

Potentially, the competitive front and some competitors, may not be able to sell here is that an opportunity for you or not really?

Yeah, definitely, so we're actually uniquely positioning that we have our engineering team here in San Diego, critical IP created in San Diego. If you look at the latest, movement and, everything that's, being discussed, should there emerge a, environment where, for national security or for other reasons. US and North America would prefer a domestic supplier. It's a great opportunity for us, absolutely.

Great, no other questions, thank you.

Awesome thanks Christian.

Lance Vitanza from TD Cowen.

Hi guys, can you hear me okay?

Hey, how are you?

Yeah, hey, great, good, thanks. So let me start with just sort of two follow-ups on the tier one carrier contract, you mentioned. That the FWA shipments begin over the next month or so versus mobile shipments beginning early in 2026 and I'm wondering, are we supposed to read anything into that staggered timing? Is FWA definitively a bigger priority either for you or with this customer or for the customer in general. And related to that as you as you look out 1 to 2 years from now when sort of the dust is sort of settled, so to speak, how should we think about the volume mix in terms of units between FWA and mobile with this new tier one customer?

Hey Lance, great question. You might remember, earlier in the year what I was saying is that the product development and let's call it design win cycle is 9 to 12 months. It's a simple matter of when we closed on the opportunity and how long it took to develop the solution, the right maturity that we're able to ship. So we're equally excited on both Hotspot and FWN.

And then if you look at the from a mobile to FWA mix perspective a mobile again because it's a large market controlled by a couple of large carriers you will see a significant uptake from a volume standpoint of view when we start shipping with the with the new customer but the mobile is also a fairly confined space, so I don't necessarily expect. To see significant market growth in mobile. Meanwhile, our thesis is that the FWA enterprise opportunity be that carrier MSL or MSP's, we're only at the early stages of that, and we expect to see market growth and of course share gains within that market.

Thank you, that's helpful. And then, one other question, there's been action at the FCC against quote untrustworthy gear coming from foreign adversaries, and I'm wondering if this is something you're following. It looks like the FCC voted last week to close loopholes which could cause network operators to actually. Go ahead and replace components in their networks, is this something that could favourably bear on results in 2026 for you? And are you contemplating any of that, or is this just, beyond the scale? Thanks.

Hey, Lance, I think this is a really important opportunity space for Inseego and again, as a North America's US OEM we're uniquely positioned to capitalize on that. I think it's very good that the focus is, in addition to the infrastructure, the macro network where actions have already been taken. To me, it makes a whole lot of sense that the focus is now moving into the CPE or the broadband devices, whether that's hotspot or FWA and even looking at a level deeper where the IP is designed in US as opposed to perhaps white labelling Chinese design, Chinese software. So I see this as a significant upside opportunity for us as a company.

Thanks very much.

Oh, thanks man.

Nick Rubino with Stifel.

Hi, this is Cam Tierney on behalf of Tore Svanberg at Stifel. First of all, thanks for taking my questions and, congrats on the quarter. I wanted to drill down a little bit into, the Inseego Connect, API that you guys, rolled out, I believe it was last quarter. I'm curious if you're, what sort of like early read read-throughs you guys are seeing from that, any feedback from customers about how they're using it or whether that's driving, service revenue attached rates.

We actually, that kind, that's a great question. Thanks for joining us. So, we just had our, Channel advisory, council, when was it 2 weeks ago. One of the, like my biggest takeaway was that the APIs that we spent. The bulk of this here in building was a fantastic investment. The feedback was, overwhelmingly positive. Look, we want to be the best partner whether you're an MSP, MSO, or a carrier, and there are instances where it makes sense to consume our NSL connect device management to the service provider single pane of glass, if you will, so that we can integrate our solution offer. As a part of a total solution offer and that's exactly what the APIs does. The APIs are very important as we extend to MSOs, MSO cell or failover use cases, and it is a requirement when engaging with the MSP community.

Okay awesome thank you and then, second question is, I just wanted to drill down a little bit more into the FWA sort of longer-term view obviously the last couple quarters it's, sort of exceeded the mobile business significantly. I'm curious if that's sort of more of a longer-term trend, that you guys are seeing and we could we expect that it's 2026 and beyond or is that sort of more short-term, chop in the in the business?

Yeah, no, good question and a very important, clarification to get out there for sure for how you're thinking about it, which is FWA is an important growth driver now and going forward, so we don't see it as chop and. If you go backwards in time, it probably was, it was more kind of one-off for various reasons, but the product portfolio, the technology, the customer breadth is much more diverse, now and going forward and so you're seeing a more steady, growth ca going forward and so we see that, contributing to both dollars and growth rate going forward.

Yeah, maybe you could double click on that. The, strong Q3 on FWA was driven by our large carrier customer. In Q4 we diversify both in terms of at incremental revenue streams both in terms of the new product and also in terms of new channels so you should absolutely expect to see us ex further expand our portfolio as well as our market reach in terms of channels and market share as we go into 2026.

Okay, awesome thank you.

Right on, thanks.

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the call back over to Juho for any closing remarks.

Thank you for the insightful questions and for joining our call this afternoon. Steve and I, Steven and I will be attending a few sales-site conferences this month. We will be at the Greg Hallam, Roth, and Needham conferences in New York in two weeks. We're particularly proud to be celebrating Inseego's 25th anniversary as a public company hosting the closing bell on NASDAQ on Monday, December 8th. A meaningful milestone for our employees, shareholders, and the company as a whole. Thank you again for your time today, and we look forward to speaking with you soon.

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