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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by.

Welcome to the Hormel Foods first-quarter 2017 conference call.

(Operator Instructions)

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Thursday, February 23, 2017.

I would like to turn the conference over to Nathan Annis, Director of Investor Relations.

Please go ahead, Mr. Annis.

Good morning.

Welcome to the Hormel Foods conference call for the first quarter of FY17.

We released our results this morning before the market opened, around 6:30 AM Eastern.

If you did not receive a copy of the release you can find it on our website at www.hormelfoods.com under the investor section.

On our call today is Jim Snee, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Jim Sheehan, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Jim Snee will review each segment's performance for the quarter and also provide an outlook for the remainder of the FY17.

Jim Sheehan will provide detailed financial results for the quarter and further assumptions relating to our FY17 outlook.

The line will be open for questions following Jim Sheehan's remarks.

As a courtesy to the other analysts please limit yourself to one question with one follow-up.

If you have additional questions you are welcome to get back in the queue.

An audio replay of the call will be available beginning at 11 AM Central Standard Time today, February 23, 2017.

The dial in number is 888-468-2440 and the access code is 562-6388.

It will also be posted to our website and archived for one year.

Before we get started with the results of the quarter I need to reference the Safe Harbor statement.

Some of the comments made today will be forward-looking and are made under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the statements we will be making.

Among the factors that may affect the operating results of the Company are fluctuations in the cost and availability of raw materials and market conditions for finished products.

Please refer to pages 31 through 35 in the Company's annual stockholders report for the year ended October 30, 2016 for more details.

It can be accessed on our website.

Additionally, please note the Company uses non-GAAP results to provide investors with a better understanding of the Company's operating performance by excluding the sales and volume impact of the divestiture of the Diamond Crystal brands business, the divestiture of the Farmer John business, and the acquisition of Justin's specialty nut butters.

Discussion on non-GAAP information is detailed in our press release located on our corporate website.

Please note that during our call today we will refer to these non-GAAP results as adjusted sales and volume.

I will now turn the call over to Jim Snee.

Thank you, Nathan.

Good morning, everyone.

Earlier today we announced record first-quarter results of $0.44 per share, up 2% from last year.

Sales for the quarter were down 1% on a 2% decrease in volume.

Adjusted sales grew 3% while adjusted volume grew 5%.

For the quarter three of our five segments reported earnings growth.

Refrigerated foods, international, and grocery products grew earnings, while specialty products earnings were flat.

Jennie-O Turkey Store had a difficult quarter versus last year with earnings down 25%.

Sales were up 13% and volume was up 22% compared to last year.

Segment profit margin declined from over 24% in the first quarter last year to 16% this year.

As a reminder, last year we made dramatic shifts to product mix and cut operating expenses as we managed through avian influenza and a substantial decrease in volume through our system.

As we communicated during our fourth-quarter call, we knew the first half of the year faced difficult earnings comparisons.

However, the erosion in market conditions was deeper and faster than we expected.

Three main issues affected Jennie-O Turkey Store's profitability this quarter -- declining Turkey prices, increased expenses, and increased competition.

We can handle any one of these issues during a given quarter or year but all three factors in the same quarter created a difficult operating environment that we did not expect.

First, turkey prices, such as breast meat, have fallen over 60% year over year to seven-year lows, which were much lower than we expected.

Jim Sheehan will discuss our outlook for key commodities, but given the industry now appears to be in an oversupply situation we do not see near-term relief on commodity prices, which will pressure our pricing in the marketplace.

Second, we incurred higher operating expenses primarily for biosecurity measures in our live production system and lower yields in our plant operations.

We will continue to make investments throughout our business, including additional investments in biosecurity to protect our business from an avian influenza outbreak.

Third, as we have addressed in the past, competing proteins continue to pressure our business in addition to increased competitive pressure.

We experienced this across all three sales divisions -- foodservice, retail, and deli.

The team at Jennie-O Turkey Store is taking the appropriate actions to address near-term operating conditions and challenges.

We remain very optimistic about the demand for Jennie-O branded products.

We have been through similar turkey commodity cycles before and we always emerge in a stronger position.

We will continue to support the brand, deliver innovative new items and invest in the business.

Refrigerated foods had another strong quarter.

First-quarter operating profit increased 4% with sales and volume down 3%.

As previously announced, we completed the divestiture of the Farmer John business on January 3, 2017.

Excluding the divestiture, adjusted sales were down 1% while adjusted volume was flat.

Refrigerated foods continues to benefit from growth in both retail and foodservice value-added products.

In foodservice, innovative items such as Hormel Bacon1 fully cooked bacon and Hormel Fire Braised meats delivered solid growth.

In our retail business, items such as Applegate bacon and breakfast sausage, Hormel Gatherings party trays, and Hormel Natural Choice meats delivered very nice growth.

International operating profits increased 5% while sales decreased 2%.

Our fresh pork exports during the quarter were very strong.

We did experience a temporary slowdown in our branded export business due to changes in import regulations in certain countries, which have since been resolved.

Our SKIPPY business in China performed well, while our meat business in China continues to experience high pork raw material prices.

Specialty foods operating profit was flat, while sales declined 19% and volume declined 30%.

Excluding the divestiture of Diamond Crystal brands, adjusted sales were up 10% while adjusted volume was up 12%.

CytoSport posted growth this quarter driven by our success in the food, drug, mass and convenience channels in addition to growth in CytoSport powders.

Innovative new items such as Muscle Milk bars and Muscle Milk yogurt smoothies continued to perform well.

We saw strong sales growth once again in grocery products.

Sales were up 7% with volume up 4%.

Adjusted sales grew 3% while adjusted volume grew 2%.

The addition of Justin's specialty nut butters and strong sales from brands such as Wholly Guacamole, Herdez and SKIPPY, all contributed to sales and volume growth.

We completed the integration of the Justin's business during the quarter and the business is on track to meet our valuation expectations.

Segment profit for grocery products was up 1%.

As we look to the remainder of 2017, the balance model we have intentionally built in our business will allow us to overcome the challenges at Jennie-O Turkey Store.

We expect refrigerated foods results to be better than we projected for the remaining three quarters.

We see continued growth in many of our brands across both retail and foodservice, such as Hormel Natural Choice, Hormel Gatherings, Hormel pepperoni, Hormel Bacon1 fully cooked bacon, and Hormel Fire Braised meats.

Grocery products will continue to build momentum, especially in the back half of the year.

We continue to see sales growth aided by product lines such as SKIPPY Peanut Butter, Justin's specialty nut butters, and our Mexican foods portfolio.

Specialty foods is expected to perform slightly better than projected for the full year.

The team has done an excellent job offsetting the Diamond Crystal brands divestiture.

And as a reminder, we will lap the Diamond Crystal brand's divestiture in May.

International will perform as planned for the full year.

We anticipate strong sales for SPAM luncheon meat, SKIPPY Peanut Butter and CytoSport protein products in the international segment for the year.

We expect the Jiaxing plant to begin producing products in the third quarter, enabling us to produce SPAM in China for the first time.

We also expect relief in China pork prices in the second half of the fiscal year, which will improve the operating environment for our China meat business.

We continue to see positive demand trends for Jennie-O branded products but market conditions are expected to cause full-year sales to be flat to last year.

Percentage declines in earnings for the second quarter will likely be similar to the first quarter; while decreases in the back half of the fiscal year are expected to be in the mid single digits.

While it is early in the year, our assessment of the impact of turkey prices at seven-year lows creates challenges for Jennie-O Turkey Store and the total Company's full-year outlook, despite expected growth in other segments.

As such, we are adjusting our full-year guidance to $1.65 to $1.71 per share.

We are confident in the balance we have purposely built into our business and expect strong performance from our other segments to overcome the market headwinds at Jennie-O Turkey Store.

At this time I will turn the call over to Jim Sheehan to discuss the financial information relating to the quarter and additional key drivers for the remainder of 2017.

Thanks, Jim.

Good morning, everyone.

Volume for the first quarter was 1.2 billion pounds a 2% decrease compared to last year.

Sales for the first quarter were $2.3 billion, a 1% decrease.

Excluding Diamond Crystal brands, Farmer John and Justin's, volume increased 5% and sales increased 3%.

Net earnings for the first quarter were $235.1 million, flat compared to last year.

SG&A expenses on a dollar and percentage of sales basis were flat to last year.

General corporate expenses were lower in the first quarter compared to last year primarily on lower employee-related and legal expenses.

We expect general corporate expenses to be lower than last year for the balance of the year.

Advertising expenses for the quarter were $52 million compared to $48 million last year.

Depreciation and amortization for the quarter was $31.3 million compared to $31.8 million last year.

We expect depreciation and amortization to be approximately $125 million for 2017.

Equity and earnings for the quarter was $13 million, up 16% compared to last year.

The increase was due to strong MegaMex results, including Herdez and Wholly Guacamole brands.

Our effective tax rate in the first quarter was 33.7% compared to 33.6% last year.

For 2017 we expect our effective tax rate to be between 33% and 33.5%.

Cash flow from operations was $178 million, down from $278 million primarily due to the changes in working capital.

Capital expenditures totaled $38 million compared to $33 million last year.

We expect capital expenditures to be approximately $200 million this year.

Projects include completion of our plant in China, numerous capacity expansions for our value-added products, and ongoing investments for food and employee safety.

We paid our 354th consecutive quarterly dividend effective February 15 at an annual rate of $0.68 per share.

We repurchased nearly 870,000 shares of common stock, spending $31 million in the first quarter.

We have 12 million shares remaining from the current authorizations and will continue to repurchase stock to offset dilution from stock option exercises.

Total Company operating margins fell 10 basis points to 15.6% compared to last year.

The Jennie-O Turkey Store segment was the primary driver for the reduction.

Jennie-O Turkey Store incurred higher expenses, including increases in biosecurity measures, upgrades in our facilities and investments into consumer trends such as our raised without antibiotics products.

Input costs for the first quarter were mixed.

Feed costs were lower compared to last year but bird yields under-performed.

The Jennie-O Turkey Store team continues to make adjustments to improve performance in live reduction.

Barring any unforeseen weather events we expect favorable grain prices for 2017.

Although we anticipated decreases in turkey markets, the decline, especially in breast meat, was deeper and faster than we expected.

Breast meat prices are now down 60% since last year's record levels.

Since October most turkey markets are down 20%.

Based on current inventory and production levels we do not expect a material change to prices for the balance of the year.

Beef prices were lower for the quarter which provided a benefit to many of our value-added products.

However, lower beef prices are putting pressure on the ground meat category, including ground turkey.

We expect slightly lower beef prices for the full year.

Hog and belly prices experienced significant increases in January.

Hog prices increased 17% and belly prices increased 20%.

72% pork trim prices were over 20% higher than last year.

Higher trim prices and the rapid increase in belly prices created short-term margin pressures for some of our value-added products.

Belly prices are being impacted by lower cold storage levels and higher demand for bacon.

We project belly prices to be significantly higher compared to last year.

We expect pork trim markets to be similar to last year for the balance of the year.

Based on the futures market, we expect hog prices to be slightly higher than last year.

As we assess the long-term future of the hog industry we see three areas of focus -- export demand, domestic consumption, and total US harvest capacity.

The majority of the new harvest capacity is reportedly coming online in late summer too early fall, representing an eventual capacity increase of about 8%.

In our opinion, utilization of the additional capacity is dependent on increases in exports and domestic consumption.

We will closely monitor the market dynamics as the new capacity comes online.

At this time we believe Hormel is at the right level of capacity given the current market conditions.

We are well-positioned to make the necessary adjustments in our business to address changes in the pork industry.

We remain confident in our balanced model.

While Jennie-O Turkey Store may struggle this year, our growth in our other segments will be able to offset the declines.

At this time I'll turn the call over to the operator for the question-and-answer portion of the call.

(Operator Instructions)

Farha Aslam, Stephens Inc.

Hi, good morning.

The first question is on Jennie-O.

Are you able to adjust your internal production to buy more from the outside to take advantage of some of the low prices in the open market?

Farha, Jim Snee here.

We do already purchase some meat on the outside.

And we do have flexibility at times.

But our production cycle is a relatively long production cycle so the flexibility doesn't really allow you to capitalize on all that opportunity.

But certainly our team is looking at that and watching those market dynamics and taking advantage of it as they can.

That's helpful.

And then the second question is regarding M&A.

I think you have a debt-free balance sheet.

Could you share with us what opportunities you are seeing out there and where Hormel's focus is right now?

Sure, Farha.

We are very active on the M&A front.

Like most quarters, we feel good about the pipeline we have.

For us the biggest issue continues to be getting it across the finish line.

That's always the most difficult part.

But as we think about what we are focused on -- the need to become more global, businesses or items that afford us the opportunity to become more healthy, holistic, on the go, multicultural -- are all things that are squarely in our wheelhouse.

And then we also, of course, are looking for those right opportunities that will add scale or support existing businesses, with the idea that we want businesses that are margin accretive, that are one or two in the categories where they compete.

And we want to make sure we are bringing more than just a check, that we really can add value to the business.

But I think the important thing to understand is that Fred and his team are very active, the pipeline is full, and we will continue to work hard in that area.

Thank you.

Adam Samuelson, Goldman Sachs.

Yes, thanks.

Good morning, everyone.

Maybe, first, continuing in Jennie-O, hoping you could dimensionalize a little bit, and you did a little bit of this before, but how much of the guidance reduction for the full year was really just the first quarter realized versus a weaker expectation for pricing and maybe some operations stuff in the balance of the year?

And, then, I think you alluded, Jim, in the prepared remarks to refrigerated, actually the implicit guidance coming up a little bit, a $0.03 reduction at the total level, the Jennie-O decrease versus refrigerated increase, and how we should think about the size of the two of those?

Adam, as we've put together our new guidance, on the JOTS side of the business we do expect in Q2 to see similar decreases that we saw in the first quarter.

And of course in half two we're calling for mid single-digit declines for JOTS.

We don't feel like we're being overly optimistic there.

We're taking a realistic look at the business.

We do expect stronger performance in refrigerated foods, have very strong value-added sales.

We expect that to continue.

Specialty foods group, the business and CytoSport, which of course includes Muscle Milk, continues to perform well.

So, we are expecting stronger performance throughout the year.

And then grocery products has seen a lot of good sales momentum.

We expect that to continue.

International, same thing.

So, we are expecting that those two business units will meet expectations.

And then, as we said, when we roll that all up, what we tout is our balanced business model that will offset some of those challenging market conditions for JOT.

Okay, that's helpful.

And then within refrigerated, the pork packing environment in November and December were exceptional, frankly.

And I'm just wondering if you can talk about the contribution of that to the refrigerated and the international business a little bit on the export side versus maybe some of the pressures you felt on the belly inflation that you saw in January and how those dynamics impacted the quarter.

Adam, this is Jim Sheehan.

You are right, we did have good market conditions -- more in the early part of the quarter -- for us, November, December.

What we saw in January was that there was a freezer report that showed that there was some low levels of inventory, especially in the belly areas.

You saw some drastic increases in belly prices, trim prices were up and hogs were up.

Hogs were up, I think, 17%, bellies were up 20% in that one month alone.

So, that created some short-term pricing pressure.

But as those prices increase so quickly it's hard to keep up with the pricing.

There is generally about a 30-day delay before we can reset our prices.

And with that type of an increase it put pressure in refrigerated foods.

And if I can just squeeze in one final quick one, in grocery, Justin's, it seems like there's only $13 million of sales in the quarter.

I think the guidance for the year was $100 million.

Can you talk about what was going on there?

Adam, your number is right.

For us, what it is, it's the seasonality in the business.

We learned through the rollout of our innovative SKIPPY PB Bites items that once you get past Halloween there is some seasonality downturn in the confectionary business.

So, it wasn't totally unexpected.

But we are on track for the $100 million and the $0.01 EPS accretion this year.

So, still really good.

I think at its core, the volume for Justin's year over year was up 20%, so the business is doing quite well.

That's helpful.

Thank you.

Jeremy Scott, CLSA.

Thanks.

Good morning.

And thank you for the new disclosures in the press release.

It's very helpful to break that out.

I think in the past you have talked about how ground beef wouldn't be a major challenge to turkey demand as it came back online.

Are your views changing on this?

Have consumers reacted to the drop in retail beef prices more actively than you previously thought?

Good morning, Jeremy.

Jim Snee.

I don't know if we've ever said that ground beef wouldn't be a major challenge.

They obviously have a very strong position.

Our position has been that we've seen growth in ground turkey because it is continues to be on trend for consumers.

And we expect over time that we are going to see growth in the share, we're going to see growth in the category.

Obviously in given quarter or any given year you run the risk of the supply cycle.

And I think that's what has happened here.

Obviously from a pricing perspective we have seen some discounts.

The one thing that I would point out is that our tray pack volume is still very strong for the quarter.

The tray pack volume is up 15%.

That tells us that the product is on trend with consumers.

But ground beef is certainly going to be a challenge for us as we continue, but we feel like we've got the right product connecting with the right consumers.

Jeremy, this is Jim Sheehan.

One of the things I would remind you is with our balanced model, the lower beef prices are providing lower input costs for both refrigerated foods and grocery products, as beef is a major input for both of those segments.

So, there is a bit of an offset of the challenge in the turkey business.

Okay.

Just on that point, we saw the ramp-up in futures, and to a certain extent has continued, for beef that is, throughout the first couple of months of 2017.

But it almost seems like we're starting to reverse that and turkey is getting more future support.

So, are these new numbers just a conservative outlook on 2017?

Can we see upside to what you are currently posting at 15%, 16% margin?

As we looked at the roll-ups, Jeremy, we really feel like we've done a deep assessment of the business and this is a realistic outlook for the business.

We've got some good strong sales growth even in the first quarter in retail, foodservice, deli.

But the fact is, there is competition out there.

We understand that.

We understand the market dynamics.

So, so we feel like this guidance is a very realistic look not only at JOTS but all the business segments.

Okay.

If I could just squeeze in one last one -- we're hearing that some of the plants coming online are having difficulty finding labor, an issue that seems to be pervasive throughout the industry.

Can you address that?

Can we expect capacity to maybe be a little bit slower than originally thought in terms of the ramp?

That's a hard one Jeremy, and we have talked about that a lot in terms of, when we have been asked the question about what does it mean to you, one of the things we've responded with is -- tell us when.

Once we know when this is all going to happen we will be able to give you a better answer.

And I think labor is certainly one of the variables that comes into the mix.

From our perspective, clearly we've got a great long-term workforce in many of our facilities, so we're well-positioned.

We will be watching the timing of these plants coming online very closely and trying to better understand what that means.

Okay, thank you very much.

Heather Jones, Vertical Group.

Good morning.

I was wondering if you could give us some color on refrigerated foods, specifically with regards to Q2.

You said your outlook for the rest of the year was incrementally more bullish than previously.

But for Q2 the comparisons are difficult on the fresh pork margin side, and the belly prices have been high.

So, I was wondering if you could give us some color on how quickly you're able to pass through those higher belly prices with your bacon pricing.

And if you could just give us some sense of the cadence as far as year on year for the rest of the year for refrigerated.

Sure, Heather.

This is Jim Snee.

From our perspective, as Jim Sheehan described earlier, we did see a spike in belly prices.

We took appropriate pricing action.

That's going to take a little while to work through the system but we feel really good about our ability to continue to take pricing in that category.

We have also seen some competitive pricing action in that category, as well, which bodes well, we believe, for our future, especially in bacon.

In refrigerated foods, also, let's not forget about our strong foodservice business.

They had another great quarter in the first quarter and there are no signs of that business slowing down.

So, we feel really good about that.

So, the second quarter should be a good quarter for refrigerated foods and that's what's leading us to say we do expect it to be a stronger performance for the full year.

Okay.

So, we should expect Q2 refrigerated to be up year on year despite the margins we are seeing on the packer side?

This is Jim Sheehan, Heather.

Again, we are less concerned about the packer margins.

We are more concerned about our input costs.

We do expect belly prices to be higher.

Trim we think will be similar to last year, so we think it's going to decline a little bit.

And hogs we believe will still remain a bit high.

We have those input pressures but we are confident about refrigerated foods.

Okay, thanks.

And on the Jennie-O side, could you give us a sense of where you are seeing the most -- you mentioned breast meat prices being down roughly 60% year on year, and you mentioned there's pricing pressure in all the channels, but is there any specific channel that is seeing the most price pressure?

Heather, I would say it's pretty consistent across retail, foodservice and deli.

Okay.

Thank you.

Ken Zaslow, Bank of Montreal.

Good morning, everyone When I think about the $0.03 guidance reduction, how does this change your earnings power in 2018 and 2019?

Ken, it's early.

First thing obviously is we're looking at the balance of the year driven by JOTS.

As we get throughout the year we will be able to take a closer look at that.

But it's early for us to be looking out into 2018 and 2019.

Let me rephrase it a little differently.

I'm not looking for guidance.

I'm saying, does that change your ability to deliver the 5% and 10% and your margin expansion opportunities in 2018, 2019 and 2020, going out?

How much does this structurally change how you think about your business going forward?

Okay, thanks for the clarification, Ken.

I don't think that it structurally changes our business going forward.

We're obviously in a market cycle.

That cycle will correct.

When we think about JOTS in particular, from our perspective we know that there's history here.

History has been on our side.

We've seen this in 2003 and in the 2008-2009 timeframe.

In each case we have emerged stronger.

We know that it's important for us to stay disciplined.

And JOTS, as you know, is a key part of our balanced model and a key part of our business.

So, in terms of structural change, we don't see it.

We just have to get through this cycle, and we will.

My next follow-up question to this is, on refrigerated foods you indicated that it's going to be better than expected this year.

Again, pork pack margins coming down, belly is higher.

Help us understand how your business actually functions because I think those indicators would suggest otherwise, and yet you're saying it's stronger.

So, help us understand how this business can actually operate in a subsiding pork packer margin environment.

This is Jim Sheehan, Ken.

Our refrigerated foods segment is the hardest segment to model.

It's difficult to model because of the focus on not only providing raw materials for their own products in refrigerated foods but it also provides products to other businesses, especially international and grocery products.

For instance, this quarter fresh pork was actually transferred to international because international margins were greater than the margins that could be obtained in fresh pork.

What you are referring to is the packer margin.

You are really seeing some of that benefit in international and not in refrigerated foods.

We had a strong quarter for the value-added products within the division.

We are focused on what our input costs are.

And I think we've given you some idea as to what input costs are going to be.

There will be some commodity benefit but, in general, we think that spread will be offset by higher belly and trim prices.

So, again, focus on what's happening with the hog markets, what's happening with belly and trim prices.

Great.

I appreciate it.

Akshay Jagdale, Jefferies.

Good morning.

I wanted to just get a little bit more clarification on the turkey shortfall.

And your disclosure, again, we really appreciate the extra disclosure.

But it looks like profits are going to be off for the year by close to $100 million.

I'm trying to break that down into its components.

You said there is competitive pressure, and it looks like competitive pressure can be broken into two things, which is competing needs, and I'm not sure if there is any competing brands that are causing any pressure.

It looks like it's all competing needs.

So, can you break down the pressure into buckets, whether it's competing needs and lower turkey prices versus higher costs that are in your control?

Maybe just give us some sense of order of magnitude of those three.

Sure, Akshay.

Jim Snee.

The first part around competition, competitive pressure, we are seeing it in the markets, or in the meats, as you say.

And we are also seeing it from competitors.

We are not the only company that is coming back out of AI looking to regain distribution, regain business.

There is an element of market pressure and competitive set pressure.

So we are seeing that on both sides.

And then when we think about the next piece, when you talk about expenses, Jim Sheehan referenced some of the bird performance on the live production side.

And we know that those are cycles.

And our team, again, coming out of AI, is already working on addressing that in the live production side of the business.

Competition does have both parts, the expenses with bird performance.

The other thing that we mentioned which is going to be a very big thing for us over the long term is our venture into raised without antibiotics.

Right now, obviously, we are making investments in that business.

We know that it's the right thing to do.

That includes feed, supply chain, densities.

There's a lot of things that go into that.

And the last thing, Akshay, and I want to make this part just clear, on your opening comment, we are not projecting a $100 million decline year on year for Jennie-O Turkey Store.

We would expect it to be less than that, maybe half of that.

Yes, I meant relative to what your expectations were.

Your guidance basically points to a $50 million decline, but relative to what you maybe were expecting before the delta might be that much.

But that was helpful.

I just want to delve into those issues a little bit more.

When you look at your projections now going forward, have you taken into account -- I'm at CAGNY, there was a very large competitor in chicken that is getting into the ground poultry business, if I may.

Is that included in your guidance?

Do you think that's going to have a major impact this year?

Akshay, we saw that release earlier this week, as well.

Obviously chicken has been in that space for a long time.

It's too early to tell.

We haven't seen the product, haven't really heard what the consumers think, haven't heard what retailers think.

So, it's really too early to tell on that specific product line.

But clearly we will be watching it closely.

Okay.

Just last one -- prior to this quarter you were guiding refrigerated EBIT growth to be flat for the year.

Obviously now you are saying it's better.

Can you give us an order of magnitude how much better?

It looks like refrigerated food projection being better is the major offset to JOTS being lower.

So, it looks like there's a significant positive change in your refrigerated food operating margin assumption.

But can you just give us some order of magnitude what you expect EBIT growth in refrigerated foods for this fiscal year?

Thank you.

Thanks, Akshay.

Really, we've got stronger performance for the balance of the year in both refrigerated and specialty foods.

On the refrigerated side, the big driver there is going to be continued strong value-added sales, both on the retail side of the business and continued strong performance from our foodservice team.

And then on the specialty food side, like we said, the CytoSport business continues to do well, gaining distribution, but also some great new innovative items that are really starting to take hold in the marketplace.

Between those two things that's really what is going to offset some of the difficult market conditions for JOTS.

Thank you.

Sean Naughton, Piper Jaffray.

Good morning.

Thanks for taking the questions.

On the grocery products side, is it fair to say -- and I think you broke this out in the release, I'm just trying to clarify -- that the category was up about it 3.1% on the top line?

And as a follow-up there, we didn't really see a lot of operating profit growth in that category but we did see a little bit of advertising jump in Q1.

Is it fair to say that we expect to harvest some of those advertising investments as we get through the remainder of the year?

Sean, it's Jim Snee.

That's a fair statement.

In terms of expenses, obviously advertising was up on the quarter there.

As you would expect, expenses associated with the Justin's integrations that are one-time expenses.

So, certainly advertising will play a benefit for the rest of the year.

We won't have the ongoing integration charges.

But the bigger driver in all of this is really the sales momentum for grocery products.

SKIPPY continues to do really well.

Our MegaMex portfolio of products is doing well.

And then we do see some favorable market conditions that will help them out.

And then, again, the full-year benefit of Justin's.

That's really what's driving our outlook for grocery products.

Okay, that's great.

And then a follow-up would be just on the refrigerated foods segment.

There's been a lot of discussion about different commodities that are happening out there.

Is there anything that you can talk about just in terms of structural changes that have been made in this segment?

And I'm thinking specifically about the mix of sales and value-added versus commodity within that segment which may limit some of the downside pressure that you may have experienced 5 to 10 years ago.

Just any sort of delta in the value add there.

I think, Sean, we have talked a lot about the continued growth, the migration up the value ladder, if you will, in our refrigerated foods segment.

And it occurs not just in packaged items.

We are doing it across the entire refrigerated foods organization, in fresh pork, in meat products.

It's happening everywhere.

So, we will continue to work on that and we have been very successful.

The other part to really consider is the, once again, strong growth of our foodservice business.

That's a business that continues to deliver quite well for our organization.

We don't expect that to slow down.

And then a lot of the innovation work that we are doing on the go with our party trays and some of our other items that we have developed.

So, is it a structural difference?

It certainly is a structural shift.

And we will continue to be working on that so that we do eliminate volatility over the long term.

Okay.

Thank you.

Robert Moskow, Credit Suisse.

Hi.

I think most of the questions have been asked here.

But two things.

A follow-up to Ken Zaslow's question about your long-term margin aspirations, I think we need to hear it from you, Jim.

Are you adhering to that long-term goal of being in your top quartile of your peer group and the range being 15% to 19%?

Can you stick with that?

And then the second thing, just more a technical thing, I think you said tray pack sales up 15% in Jennie-O.

Is that a true consumer demand number or does that also reflect being on shelf more with an easy comparison to the AI from last year?

Thanks, Rob.

To your first question, the answer is yes.

We are committed to that long-term margin guidance.

And clearly the impact of Jennie-O on just this one quarter moved us back a little bit.

But we do believe that this business is going to rebound and will emerge stronger.

It's going to be a key part of that journey in the margin improvement.

So, so the answer is yes, we are committed to that.

And to your second question, certainly there are elements of both, I think.

We're still gaining back some distribution, but you're gaining back distribution because there is consumer demand.

Again, the underlying fundamental there is we feel really good about the business.

It's connecting with consumers and it's on-trend and we expect to continue to see that.

Okay thank you.

Rupesh Parikh, Oppenheimer.

Good morning and thanks for taking my questions.

I have two questions related to the recent acquisitions.

First, on Justin's, do you still believe you can achieve that $100 million sales target for this fiscal year?

And then on Applegate, I was just curious how that's performing versus expectations.

And as you look at the environment, clearly seeing deflation in more of the conventional offering, just wondering if that's at all challenging the Applegate offering.

Sure, Rupesh, good morning.

Jim Snee.

Just following up on the earlier question around Justin's, the $13 million in the first quarter does account for some seasonality in the business in the whole confectionary space.

But we do want to point out that the volume is up 20% year over year.

So, we do believe that we are on track for $100 million for the full year, and still remain very positive about that acquisition and that business going forward.

As you get to the Applegate business, our team there continues to work through the rebound of the supply situation, both on the pork side, and then that was compounded with turkey supply shortages through AI.

And as you think of that business in specific parts of the store, the walled deli space is extremely competitive.

The team is making progress there but that's been a battle.

Really, a lot of continued success in the meat case and the freezer.

Hot dogs, dinner sausage, the nuggets, the chicken breakfast sausage -- those items are doing well.

And we're working now on developing business in the foodservice channel, as well.

So, we think that that business is very healthy and is going to continue to do well.

Thank you.

Eric Larson, Buckingham Research.

Good morning, everyone.

Thanks for getting me worked into the Q&A.

Really, a follow-up on the grocery sector, Jim and Jim.

When you look at certain commodities, obviously you've had some cost inflation with avocados, you've got trim costs.

Is that leading to some higher pricing in your guacamole and maybe even your SPAM division?

I think guacamole prices have actually gone up a little bit.

And then can you just talk about -- your revenue growth is really strong there and I would think that that would be more of a positive mix, with SKIPPY growing, et cetera.

Obviously, with one-time expenses in the quarter it held back your margins and your profits this quarter but isn't there also a positive mix shift going on here, as well, for grocery which would be beneficial to margins as you move forward?

Eric, good morning.

Jim Snee.

Thanks for those questions.

I'll try to break those down here.

The first one around avocados -- and you are correct, we have taken pricing increases on Wholly Guacamole.

Those prices have been in the marketplace a little while now but consumer demand remains strong for the products.

In terms of the avocado market there are a couple of things.

Prices are historically high but they are down from some of their October peaks.

The other thing to understand is that there is adequate supply.

We have a lot of supply that comes out of Mexico but we have other sources for supply, as well.

So, there is adequate supply in that space and we, again, feel really good about the business going forward.

From a grocery products perspective, our guidance is consistent with what we laid out in the fourth-quarter call.

The business is very healthy, a lot of sales momentum.

And you are right, once we get through some of these one-time expenses we will be able to deliver the guidance we laid out.

And, yes, there is a mix shift as we think about the Justin's and SKIPPY and all of those product lines that really continue to build a nice broad base in the grocery products portfolio.

So, we feel really good about what grocery products is doing and where they are headed.

Okay, thank you, Jim.

Mario Contreras, Deutsche Bank.

Hi, good morning.

I just wanted to follow-up on the 5% sales growth target that had been laid out in the previous quarter, 5% excluding M&A.

I didn't really hear much mention of that today.

So, my first question would be, is that intact, and if it is what is going to allow you to get to that?

It would require some amount of acceleration over the upcoming quarters here.

You're not going to have the benefit of the turkey supply normalization.

That will have already been lapped at some point this year.

So, is there any additional detail you can provide on that?

Thank you.

I think we're on track for the 5% organic growth number.

As you go around all the differences and segments, refrigerated foods, the strong value-added sales, will continue to deliver there.

JOTS will be slightly lower.

We are going to see some volume growth but obviously we understand the market conditions.

Specialty foods will continue to perform well.

And then international grocery products are all on track for what we said they were going to do.

So, we do believe, Mario, that we're going to be able to deliver that 5% organic number.

Okay.

And is there any specific segment that is going to contribute more than what we've seen so far?

Or is it going to be fairly evenly balanced?

We said our stronger performance will come from refrigerated and specialty, but there are some really nice sales momentum in grocery products and we don't expect that to slow down.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

That's all for me.

Jeremy Scott, CLSA.

Thanks for the follow-up.

Just on that point, your organic growth in specialty has been very strong, and it's a little bit different than what we are tracking.

So, if you can just point to that.

I know you're just bottling up all the different segments to get to your 5% number but could you give some indication on what specialty foods organic volume growth could be this year?

Specialty foods, you've got to remember that that is still a mix of CytoSport, HHL, and our specialty products group.

So, when we talk about that business we're talking across all those different categories that are performing well.

We expect that business to continue to be strong.

And even within that segment there's a bit of a balance that goes on at any given time.

We have seen some nice growth with CytoSport in some more traditional channels.

Remember, the C-store business, which is a big part of the CytoSport business, isn't measured.

The team has done a great job not only gaining distribution but creating innovative new items to meet the needs of that channel.

So, it's all of those things that are really setting it up for a strong 2017.

Okay.

Thank you.

Heather Jones, Vertical Group.

Thanks for taking the follow-up.

I just had a quick question on exports.

Historically, Hormel has not been a big exporter on the pork side, but you guys mentioned that this quarter they were strong.

I was wondering, the Chinese pork market continues to be strong but it has cooled some.

So, should we expect that strong export volume to continue for the rest of the year?

Or how should we think about that?

Heather, just as a reminder, fresh pork exports, they are a decent sized part of the international business.

They are not, I would say, a huge part of the overall company.

And on any given year obviously we've had strength and then we've had some challenges with pricing pressure with products coming out of the European markets the last several years.

But it does look like the markets are setting up for a strong full year.

Certainly you've got the China conditions, but I think we've also all read what's happened or what is happening in South Korea, which is a strong export market for us.

So, we do feel like it will continue to be strong throughout the year.

But am I correct in thinking -- and maybe I misunderstood this -- because the industry as a whole, it's roughly a quarter of the volume goes to export.

I had thought that Hormel's, their exposure was less than that, but are you all in line with the industry?

We are less than that, Heather.

Okay.

Thank you.

Akshay Jagdale, Jefferies.

Thanks for the follow-up.

Just on turkey, can you just help me understand the dynamics of lower commodity prices on your portfolio, because 80% or so is value-added, so lower commodity needs should be good for a majority of your business?

I'm trying to understand why that is causing such a big impact negatively on your margins.

Thank you.

Akshay, this is Jim Sheehan.

Really, what's happening with the lower commodity prices is the pricing pressure that it's putting on to the sales price.

That's really where we are feeling the impact.

Right, but, because you are value added, typically you would be able to have a better margin, right?

Your inputs, when you are doing value-added, are down so your end price shouldn't be coming down as much, typically?

I think to understand what occurred in the first quarter, one of the things you shouldn't lose sight on is the bird performance, because the birds that we raise, we've talked about that we had some additional cost in those flocks.

The flocks that we raise cost more and then they provided less meat than they typically will provide, especially less breast meat.

So, the cost of raising the birds was the same price.

Yes, there is some advantage in the commodity prices for breast meat that we are buying on the outside, but it's really the pricing pressure.

Got it.

That's super helpful.

Thank you.

There are no additional questions at this time, gentlemen.

Thank you all very much.

While unfavorable market conditions in the turkey industry challenged our Jennie-O Turkey Store business, the balance we have intentionally built into all of our businesses allowed us to deliver earnings growth this quarter.

Our team has a track record of delivering results and we clearly understand what needs to be done this year to deliver the guidance range we provided.

On behalf of the team here at Hormel Foods, thank you for joining us today.

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