Hackett Group Inc (HCKT) 2013 Q2 法說會逐字稿

Welcome to The Hackett Group's second quarter earnings call. (Operator Instructions) Please be advised that the conference is being recorded.

Hosting tonight's call are Mr. Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO, and Mr. Rob Ramirez, Chief Financial Officer.

Mr. Ramirez, you may begin.

Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss The Hackett Group's second quarter results. Speaking on the call today and here to answer your questions are Ted Fernandez, Chairman and CEO of The Hackett Group, and myself, Rob Ramirez, Chief Financial Officer.

A press announcement was released over the wires at 4.27 p.m. Eastern time. For a copy of the release, please visit our website at www.thehackettgroup.com. We will also place any additional financial or statistical data discussed on this call that is not contained in the release on the Investor Relations page of our website.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you that in the following comments and in the question and answer session we will be making statements about expected future results which may be forward-looking statements for the purposes of the Federal Securities laws.

These statements relate to our current expectations, estimates and projections and are not a guarantee of future performance. They involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict and which may not be accurate. Actual results may vary. These forward-looking statements should only be considered in conjunction with the detailed information, particularly the risk factors, contained in our SEC filings.

At this point, I would like to turn it over to Ted.

Thank you, Rob, and welcome everyone to The Hackett Group's second quarter earnings call.

First, let me review the agenda. I will open up by providing some highlights of our second quarter. I will turn it back over to Rob and ask him to comment on operating results, cash flow, and also provide details on guidance. Rob will then turn it back over to me, where I'll be able to provide some market and strategic overview comments, and then we will open it up for Q&A.

So let me start with the highlights of the quarter. We were pleased to report revenues of $59 million and pro forma EPS of $0.13 in our second quarter of fiscal year 2013. As we mentioned on our first quarter call, the revenue ramp in the U.S. at the beginning of the year materialized a little later in the first quarter than planned. As expected, this momentum exiting the first quarter resulted in strong U.S. sequential growth in the second quarter, which totaled 14%.

Internationally revenues were down 11% sequentially as the expected European weakness came in better than planned and international results also benefitted from solid Asia Pac sequential growth.

In the U.S. we experienced solid sequential improvement across nearly all of our practices, led by the strong performance of our Transformation and EPM, or Enterprise Performance Management, Groups.

Specific to our EPM Groups, whose revenues are now in excess of 40% of total Hackett U.S. revenues, it's important to note they were recently recognized as Oracle's number one EPM influence partner. When you consider our much larger consulting and technology competitors this is a significant recognition.

On the balance sheet side our strong cash flow allowed us to pay-down $5.5 million in our credit facility during the quarter, bringing the total outstanding to $15 million and our net debt position to $4 million. Given this accelerated pay-down the Company also announced today that it intends to launch a modified Dutch auction tender offer to purchase up to $35.75 million in value of its common stock at a price ranging from $5.75 to $6.50. The tender offer would allow the Company to repurchase approximately 17% of its outstanding common shares at the high end of the pricing range. The Company intends to pay for the share repurchase from the expansion of its credit facility.

On the investment front we continue to develop and attract talent and expand our brand and intellectual property through the constant best practice research that we publish that emanates from our proprietary benchmarking and performance study insight, as well as the development of our new Hackett Performance Exchange offerings. I will comment about these opportunities in more detail in my strategic overview section of our call. I will also comment further on market conditions and specific go-to-market initiatives, but let me first ask Rob to provide details on our operating results, cash flow, and also comment on guidance.

Thank you, Ted, and welcome, everyone.

As I typically do I will cover the following topics during our call -- an overview of our 2013 second quarter results, along with an overview of related key operating statistics. I'll also cover an overview of our cash flow activities during the quarter, and I will then conclude with a discussion on our financial outlook for the third quarter of 2013.

For purposes of this call any references to The Hackett Group will specifically exclude ERP Solutions. Correspondingly, I will comment separately regarding the financial results of The Hackett Group, ERP Solutions, and the total Company. Please note that all references to gross revenues in my discussion represent net revenues plus reimbursable expenses.

As mentioned previously, we exited our Oracle ERP implementation practice during the first quarter of 2013, as such historical information discussed on this call has been recast for comparability purposes. Additionally, references to pro forma results specifically exclude noncash stock compensation expense, intangible asset amortization expense, results of discontinued operations, and assume a normalized tax rate of 40%.

Now turning over to our second quarter results, for the second quarter of 2013 total Company gross revenues were $59 million and above our second quarter's guidance. This represents a sequential increase of 8% and a year-over-year increase of 2%. Pro forma EPS was $0.13, which was also above our guidance and up 18% from prior year.

Total Company international gross revenues accounted for 21% of total Company revenues in the second quarter of 2013 as compared to 23% in the second quarter of 2012. International revenues were down 11% sequentially and 15% on a year-over-year basis.

Gross revenues for The Hackett Group, which excludes ERP Solutions, were $47.7 million in the second quarter of 2013, representing a sequential increase of 9% and a year-over-year decrease of 5%, primarily due to lower revenue from our International Groups and longer than expected ramp on U.S. client engagements at the beginning of 2013.

Hackett Group annualized gross revenue per professional was $358,000 in the second quarter of 2013, this compared to $379,000 in the second quarter of 2012, and $329,000 in the previous quarter.

Gross revenue from our ERP Solutions Group, which now consists of our SAP Implementation Group, totaled $11.3 million, up 5% sequentially and a year-over-year increase of 44%. ERP Solutions' hourly gross realized billing rate per hour was $130 in the second quarter of 2013 as compared to $122 in the second quarter of 2012. This includes the impact of our offshore resources, which approximate 40% of our total ERP Implementation resources. ERP Solutions consultant utilization was 83% for the second quarter of 2013 as compared to 71% in the second quarter of 2012.

Total Company pro forma cost of sales excluding reimbursable expenses and stock compensation expense totaled $32.5 million or 62.1% of net revenues as compared to $31.4 million or 61% of net revenues in the previous year. This was primarily attributed to European revenue declines and an increase of subcontractor use in our EPM Technology and ERP practices.

Total Company consultant headcount was 735 at the end of the second quarter of 2013 as compared to 719 in the previous quarter and 749 at the end of the second quarter of 2012. This year-over-year increase was primarily attributable to increased hiring activities and a higher level of utilization of subcontractors in our EPM Technology and SAP Groups commensurate with market demand.

Total Company pro forma gross margin was 37.9% of net revenues in the second quarter of 2013 as compared to 39% in the second quarter of 2012. Hackett Group pro forma gross margins on net revenues was 38% in the second quarter as compared to 38.7% in the second quarter of the prior year, primarily due to the European revenue decline and a higher use of subcontractors in our EPM Technology practice when compared to Q2 of the prior year.

ERP Solutions pro forma gross margins on net revenues was 37% in the second quarter as compared to 41% in the second quarter of the previous year, due to headcount increases in our SAP Group, as well as higher than expected use of subcontractors to service demand.

Pro forma SG&A was $13 million or 24.8% of net revenues in the second quarter of 2013 as compared to $14 million or 27.2% of net revenues in the second quarter of 2012. This improvement is primarily due to cost containment measures enacted during the latter part of fiscal 2012.

Interest expense on borrowings under our credit facility was $125,000 during the quarter. This compares to $247,000 of interest expense in the prior fiscal year. This decrease is a result of the debt repayments that we have made.

Total Company pro forma net income for the second quarter of 2013 totaled $4.1 million with $0.13 per diluted share and was above our second quarter's guidance. This performance compares to pro forma net income of $3.5 million and is up 18% from the $0.11 per diluted share that was reported in the second quarter of 2012.

As expected, second quarter 2013 results includes approximately a one penny impact due to our development, internal launch, rollout of HPE, which is comparable to the prior year.

Total Company pro forma net income for the second quarter of 2013 excludes noncash stock compensation expense of $1.6 million, intangible asset amortization expense of $151,000, and assumes a normalized tax rate of 40% or $2.7 million.

Pro forma EBITDA on net revenue in the second quarter of 2013 was $7.3 million or 14% of net revenues as compared to $6.5 million or 12.7% of net revenues in the second quarter of 2012.

GAAP diluted earnings per share were $0.09 for the second quarter of 2013 as compared to $0.12 in the second quarter of 2012. As previously discussed, we released the remaining balance of our U.S. Federal evaluation allowances in the second quarter of 2012, which resulted in a GAAP tax benefit of $0.04 in that quarter. Excluding this valuation allowance release we would be comparing the second quarter 2013 GAAP results of $0.09 to $0.08 in the second quarter of 2012. As previously stated, the GAAP booked tax provision effective rate should approximate our current pro forma rate of 40% as we move forward.

At the end of the second quarter of 2013 the Company had approximately $26 million and $14 million of income tax loss carry forwards remaining in the U.S. and in foreign tax jurisdictions, respectively. As a result, for tax purposes we will continue to have the ability to offset most of our U.S. and international tax liabilities until these net operating losses are fully utilized.

Now turning to cash balances, the Company's cash balances were $11.3 million at the end of the second quarter of 2013 as compared to $12 million at the end of the first quarter. This cash decrease in Q2 was primarily attributable to debt repayments, capital expenditures, stock repurchases, and offset by cash generated from operations.

During the second quarter of 2013 the Company repaid $5.5 million of its existing credit facility, which now stands at $15 million. However, in light of the proposed modified Dutch auction, that Ted mentioned, we will be expanding the term loan under our facility to fund the tendered transaction.

Capital expenditures for the quarter were $563,000 for the second quarter of 2013, primarily related to the continued development of The Hackett Performance Exchange and other benchmark related offerings.

During the second quarter cash was utilized to repurchase approximately 124,000 shares of the Company's common stock at an average price of $4.80 for a total cost of $594,000. This took our remaining repurchase authorization to approximately 5 million.

Net cash generated from operating activities in the second quarter of 2013 were $5.7 million, which was primarily attributable to net income adjusted for noncash items, the timing of accounts payable and U.S. payroll cycles and payroll related items, and partially offset by an increase in accounts receivable.

Our DSO, or days sales outstanding, at the end of the second quarter of 2013 was 55 days as compared to 59 days at the end of the fourth quarter of 2012 and 56 days at the end of the previous quarter.

I will now turn over to guidance. Before I discuss guidance I want to make sure that everybody understands that consistent with seasonal third-quarter trends we expect the impact of the additional U.S. holiday and the typical increase in vacation utilized in both the U.S. and Europe to unfavorably impact available days by approximately 5% on a sequential basis as we head into the third quarter.

Having said that we expect total Company gross revenues for the third quarter of 2013 to be in the range of $57 million to $59 million, with a reimbursable expense estimate of 12.5% on net revenues. This compares to a prior year gross revenue amount of $55.6 million, which was recast to reflect the Oracle ERP divestiture and had a reimbursable expense ratio of 12% on net revenues.

We expect U.S. gross revenues to be up on a year-over-year basis by approximately 7% to 10%, with Hackett U.S. estimated to be up strongly and ERP Solutions to be down.

International revenues, primarily derived from Europe, are expected to be down on a year-over-year basis by approximately 3% to 5%.

As a result, we expect our pro forma diluted earnings per share in the third quarter of 2013 to be in the range of $0.11 to $0.13. Our pro forma guidance excludes amortization expense, noncash stock compensation expense, the impact of discontinued operations resulting from the sale of the Oracle ERP implementation practice and includes a normalized tax rate of 40%.

Sequentially we expect pro forma gross margin in the third quarter to benefit from the seasonal reductions in U.S. payroll related taxes resulting from reaching FICO limits and the utilization of vacation accruals, offset by decreasing available days due to summer vacations.

As a result of our revenue guidance we expect pro forma gross margin on net revenues to be approximately 36% to 37% in Q3. We expect pro forma SG&A and interest expense for the third quarter to be approximately $12.5 million or down sequentially by approximately $500,000. We expect third quarter pro forma EBITDA on net revenues to be in the range of 12.5% to 14.5%. We expect our cash balances excluding the impact of debt repayments and share buyback activity to be up on a sequential basis, consistent with our earnings guidance.

At this point, I would like to turn it back over to Ted to review our market outlook and strategic priorities for the coming months.

Okay, thank you, Rob.

As we look forward, consistent with reported and future estimates of global GDP, economic recovery and related demand for our client services continue to be slower than desired. Our strategy is to ensure that we continue to expand our capabilities and intellectual capital in order to serve our clients strategically and allow us to continue to improve our profitability and cash flow regardless of the economic environment.

In the U.S. we are seeing solid demand for our services. As Rob mentioned, our U.S. business is expected to be up nicely sequentially, with Hackett U.S. up strongly, and our SAP or ERP business down but only after a very strong first half of the year.

It is worth noting that our SAP Group was also recognized as Integrator of the Year by SAP in 2012. These acknowledgements validate our strategy to focus on technology integration areas where we can highly differentiate and distinguish ourselves.

Relative to Europe activity remains good, but volatile. Overall we expect to be down sequentially as we are impacted by the traditional summer vacation period, but down low single digits on a year-over-year basis, as Rob mentioned.

Overall our activity remained healthy as clients continue to value our benchmarking and transformation expertise and unique intellectual capital that it generates to quickly respond to the complexity of the global business environment.

With that demand overview as a backdrop, let me now comment on some of our strategic priorities. We continue to work hard to innovate new ways to develop continuous relationships that leverage our intellectual capital, as well as create an opportunity to serve clients more broadly.

IP based services enhance our opportunities to serve clients remotely, continuously, and more profitably. The goal is to use our unique intellectual capital to establish a strategic relationship with our clients that have high profitability and predictability and to further use that entry point to introduce our business transformation and technology consulting capabilities. This strategy should allow us to increase our client base, profitability, as well as increase revenue per client. The best example of this strategy has been the revenue leverage that we've experienced from the Executive Advisory client base.

Speaking of our desire to have continuous client relationships, our long-term goal continues to be to be able to ascribe an increasing percentage of our total annual revenues to clients who are continuously engaged through our Executive Advisory programs and eventually through our Hackett Performance Exchange.

At the end of the second quarter our Executive Advisory members totaled 825 across 242 clients. Consistent with prior quarters, approximately 45% of our Hackett quarterly sales were also Advisory clients continuing to show a strong relationship leverage. To give you an idea of the strategic touch points that come from those relationships, year-to-date we are responding to approximately 400 inquiries per month from our Advisory clients, which is up from last year.

On the Hackett Performance Exchange front we have nearly completed our planned enhancements for both Oracle and SAP offerings. We are finalizing some key algorithms and presentation alternatives to our dashboard and are now fully engaged in testing and feedback with clients. Our plan is to increase the client participation in this process through the balance of the year to ensure that our offerings are working as intended by no later than the beginning of next year.

In addition to our fully automated CFO Ops Dashboard, which is the key component of our Hackett Performance Exchange, we are also developing functionality that will allow our clients to complete and upload cost and fulltime equivalent data similar to our existing functional benchmarks in less than half the time it currently takes them. We call this capability [CFO Ops Plus]. These new offerings will allow us to offer unmatched data capture capabilities which complements our unmatched benchmarking database.

As I repeatedly mentioned, this is an ambitious new offering, but if successful it could enhance our business model by creating a powerful and possibly continuous relationship with our clients. Although we continue to learn about how best to sell and leverage our HPE offerings, we believe it could represent a new way to monitor and benchmark a client's performance, which could result in a new revenue stream and a significant increase in data capture and operating insight, which we know our clients value.

Lastly, even though we believe we have the client base, offerings, and market coverage to grow our business we will continue to look for acquisitions and alliances that can add scope, scale and capability to accelerate our growth.

In summary, we reported solid quarterly results that provided us with improved momentum going into the second half of the year. We also believe that our unique ability to combine proprietary intellectual capital with terrific talent to help our clients optimize their performance in this complex environment we're operating in allows us to remain top of mind with leading global companies and bodes well for our prospects.

As always, let me close by thanking our Associates for their tireless efforts and always urge them to stay highly focused on our clients, our people, and the exciting opportunities available to our organization.

Those conclude my comments. I will now turn it back over to the Operator to start our Q&A. Operator?

Thank you, sir. (Operator Instructions)

And the first question comes from Morris Aizenman with Griffin Securities. Your line is open.

Hi, guys.

Hi, Morris.

Hi, Morris.

Hi. Well, I applaud you on the Dutch auction again, I think it's the right thing for shareholders. My question, let me start with Europe, sequentially, I think it was sequentially -- yes, you were down 11%, and in the previous quarter you -- I think you inferred you might be down 20% or so. Not that we should be happy with down 11%, but what happened in Europe, is there a change for the better? Again, an 11% decline is nothing to jump up and down about, but just give us a sense of a handle on what's happening there? Again, I think you guided a 3% to 5% decline, but I think that's year-over-year for the third quarter, is that correct?

Well, let me start with your first question, Morris.

Okay.

First of all, the 11% you're quoting is total international, which includes both Europe and Asia Pac, which is really Australia for us, primarily Australia. So Europe was down approximately 15% instead of the, if you want to call it 18% to 20% that we were expecting. So, yes, it did come in better than planned, and I mentioned that in my comments. And that was -- their 15% was a further offset by strong sequential growth in Asia Pac, which then brought that number to 11%.

Now relative to the third quarter guidance, yes, we're saying, look, we expect that same number to be about 3% to 5%. So in essence what we're saying is, look, if anything, two things. The quarter played out a little better than we thought for Europe and, secondly, the negative, if you want to call it, impact on a go-forward basis is going to be cut by at least half going into the third quarter.

Is it any one country, any one company that stands out or it was just an overall European moderating integrated decline?

No, really if you remember I characterized the volatility of clients' decision-making -- no, I really can't characterize it to one country or another. Generally speaking, I will say right now we feel that Germany is performing, let's call it stronger than the UK, France and the Netherlands, which are the primary countries in Western Europe which we operate in.

Okay, and, lastly, the revenue improvement for U.S., is that a year-over-year 10% or a sequential improvement? The 7% to 10% guidance you gave us?

Are you talking about Q2 or are you talking Q3?

Q3, you gave us guidance, I'm not sure if that was year-over-year or sequentially?

It's a sequential improvement from Q2 to Q3, and it's 6% to -- I forget, Rob, go ahead, and I think it's 6% to 8% for total U.S. So we're saying that the strong Hackett U.S. momentum it will be offset by the SAP finally slowing down from just impossible growth numbers if you want to characterize it -- we characterize it that way.

And a last question, and I'll get back in queue -- HPE, is it still a target for first quarter 2014 to start getting paid for the service?

Well, we actually hope to get paid by some clients before the end of the year, and we actually have some clients who have some contracts that are giving now some free period that will go into a paid relationship now if the product performs as intended here before the end of the year. But we need that feedback to know whether or not, as you know, we would provide any extension or the like. But our goal now, as I mentioned on the call, have the product fully vetted, tested, and in full commercial use by no later than the beginning of next year.

And how many paying customers do you think you'll have by the first quarter of '14?

Oh, I don't -- you know, I wouldn't even -- I don't want to guess. Let's complete the product, let's get the feedback, and then let's allow that to happen and for us then comment as we actually have the facts, Morris.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. (Operator Instructions)

George Sutton with Craig-Hallum, your line is open.

Hi, guys, this is [Charlie Graham] filling in for George Sutton.

Hi, Charlie.

I just had a few questions. First off, Ted, can you give us a sense of how the linearity of the quarter came in for revenues?

It was pretty solid across the board. It started with nice momentum and that momentum has carried across through the quarter, and that's why you're seeing then the sequential guidance comments that I made relative to Q3. I would say that would be -- that would apply to The Hackett U.S. business. I would say stable for Europe. And then the piece that is going to be sequentially down would be SAP, so the sequential trend in SAP was pretty solid throughout the quarter, but that revenue run rate, which has a 44% year-to-date growth rate it just will not be sustainable into Q3, so it will hurt us sequentially in Q3.

Okay, okay. Second, can you give us some more color on any key takeaways you had on your best practices conference?

Well, I think the most significant thing that we're seeing with clients it's just watching our strategy play out. I mean these are clients that are there for different reasons, so a large number are there because they're Executive Advisory members, but when we look at those Executive Advisory members, as you've seen me report quarter-on-quarter, an increasing number of them have now gone from initiating an Executive Advisory relationship into a significant transformation for a technology consulting relationship.

So, for us, the big takeaway is the value and the uniqueness of our IP is absolutely recognized by leading global companies, and when we deliver that well and we establish a strategic relationship it allows us to expand that relationship beyond intellectual capital, beyond benchmarking, beyond research into a meaningful consulting relationship.

So it's really kind of watching these comments that I try to make throughout, on each call, and they are kind of hard to visualize. We can run into clients who say, well, I started with this relationship, it's moved to this, or I now supplement my consulting relationship, when I'm not doing consulting with you I'm utilizing some of your Executive Advisory support. Or clients who simply come to us and say please size the price, and they come to us because they know our benchmarking capability is second to none. They come in with that mindset, not with the intention of extending their relationship beyond that, realize that our capabilities in implementing these solutions are every bit as good as they are in benchmarking, and then allow us to participate in these significant transformation and technology relationships, so a combination of all of the above, and thank you for allowing me the commercial.

Yes. Last question, with interest rates starting to pick-up a little bit, at what point would we see a REL benefit?

That's a great question. REL's business in Europe stabilized during the quarter. It was also stable throughout the U.S. But, yes, it'd be nicer if they were working in a higher interest rate environment to just increase the number of [inaudible] that they get. But I would say that it would have to increase significant for that specific impact to be noticed in their business.

So we've always said in that business it's a business where we work with about 25 to 30 clients a year and serve a number of them then very meaningfully, so we'd love to have broader increase of [inaudible], but I always remind our REL leadership that the opportunity that we need to hit and exceed our plan relative to the number of clients is not significant. It should never be an excuse for that Group not performing where it should be.

Okay, well, thank you, thank you for that.

All right.

(Operator Instructions)

Bill Jones with Singular Research, your line is open.

Hi, guys.

Hi, Bill.

Thanks for taking my question. Obviously, you know, the numbers are pretty good for the quarter, top and bottom line, so I'm going to focus more on the announced Dutch tender offer, $35 million is obviously pretty significant vote of confidence for the stock. Maybe you can give some color on why that amount, why Dutch tender versus a more traditional buyback? Any color on that would be appreciated. I think it's a good move, by the way.

Yes, I would say two things. Look, I think we've been very consistent in saying that, you know, we want to make sure that we're utilizing our balance sheet given the credit facility and terms that we have, and we believed this was an appropriate time to return capital to shareholders given the alternatives that we had in front of us. It doesn't preclude us from doing acquisitions. I believe we've got an increasing stock price that provides us both the ability to use credit, as well as equity, which as you know we really have not wanted to use in prior years, but it doesn't preclude us from doing that as we move forward.

So, no, look, we want to make sure that we're actively trying to create value for shareholders, and we believed when we looked at our alternative that this was a great opportunity to do that and we thought the price would be meaningful for shareholders, and then when we looked at the overall percentage of stock that we would like to acquire, one of the great things that we found out is that our trading activity post our initial Dutch has actually improved when most people thought that it could actually hurt us.

So I think generally by being active, by putting the dividend in place at the end of last year there's just more attention in our stock, there's more for us to talk about. Shareholders know we're actively engaged in share value creation, and we think those are the things that we should be doing in addition to, as you said, making sure that we're continuing to grow our business, grow cash flow, grow profitability.

Excellent. Thank you for that, and I think the share price will reflect the quarter and the offering tomorrow, but earlier in the call I think that you had talked about your NOL and I missed the balance?

In the U.S. we have $26 million of NOLs remaining, and we've got $14 million internationally, which are comprised of obviously various different countries across Europe.

Excellent. Thank you for that, and I think my other questions have been answered.

Thank you.

Thank you.

At this time I show no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Fernandez.

Thank you, Operator. And let me, again, thank everyone for participating in our second quarter call. We look forward to updating you once we complete the third quarter. Thanks, again.

Thank you.

Thank you for your participation in today's conference call.