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  • Operator

  • Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Garmin Ltd. Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded.

  • I will now turn the conference to your host, Ms. Teri Seck, Director of Investor Relations. Ma'am, you may begin.

  • Teri Seck - Manager of IR

  • Good morning. We would like to welcome you to Garmin Ltd.'s Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2021 Earnings Call. Please note that the earnings press release and related slides are available at Garmin's Investor Relations site on the Internet at www.garmin.com/stock. An archive of the webcast and related transcript will also be available on our website.

  • This earnings call includes projections and other forward-looking statements regarding Garmin Ltd. and its business. Any statements regarding our future financial position, revenues, earnings, gross margins, operating margins, future dividends or share repurchases, market shares, product introductions, future demand for our products and plans and objectives are forward-looking statements. The forward-looking events and circumstances discussed in this earnings call may not occur, and actual results could differ materially as a result of risk factors affecting Garmin.

  • Information concerning these risk factors is contained in our Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In particular, there is significant uncertainty about the duration and impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. This means that results could change at any time, and any statement about the impact of COVID-19 on the company's business results and outlook is the best estimate based on the information available as of today's date.

  • Presenting on behalf of Garmin Ltd. this morning are Cliff Pemble, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Doug Boessen, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Cliff Pemble.

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Teri, and good morning, everyone. As reported earlier today, we ended 2021 with fourth quarter revenue of $1.39 billion, up 3% over the prior year, representing a new record for Garmin. During 2021, quarter-by-quarter comparisons to the prior year have been difficult to interpret due to pandemic-driven swings of 2020. It's interesting to note that revenue grew 12% on a CAGR basis compared to Q4 of 2019. We believe this comparison better reflects the underlying strength of the business and we are very pleased with our development over these past 2 years.

  • Operating profit came in at $315 million, down 15% over the prior year. Gross margin declined due to pressure that every business is facing, notably higher freight costs. In addition, operational expenses increased for a variety of reasons, including higher associate head count, increased compensation costs and the increase of certain operational expenses as business activities normalize. Even with these headwinds, operating margin remained very strong at 22.6%.

  • 2021 was our sixth consecutive year of revenue and operating income growth, establishing new records for the company. Revenue increased 19% to nearly $5 billion and operating income grew 16%, exceeding $1.2 billion. Each segment delivered strong double-digit revenue growth. I'm very proud of what we accomplished, especially considering the challenging operating environment everyone is facing.

  • The availability of electronic components has been a major topic of conversation over the past year. While we are not always able to get everything we need, we believe we've been very effective in managing this situation as evidenced by our results. Our vertically integrated business model gives us greater levels of agility and flexibility in this dynamic supply chain environment. However, it's the creativity, determination and teamwork of our associates that made these accomplishments possible. I'm very proud of our associates, and I'm grateful for all they have done.

  • Looking forward, we are encouraged by the opportunities of the new year. We have a great lineup of recently introduced products, with additional introductions planned throughout the remainder of the year. We anticipate consolidated revenue will increase approximately 10% to $5.5 billion, driven by new product introductions and strong market trends in many of our segments. Our results and outlook for the new year give us confidence to propose a 9% dividend increase, which will be considered by shareholders at the upcoming annual meeting.

  • Before moving on to segment highlights, it's important to share context on how we see the business and markets evolve in 2022. The pandemic drove additional demand in certain product categories, which is starting to normalize from peak levels. This will create additional dynamics to consider for the coming year, and I will note these as I covered each segment. The nuances of individual categories are not a major concern for us. Rather, it's our strategic focus on diversification that brings many opportunities for growth, which is the basis for our outlook for 2022.

  • Starting with the fitness segment, revenue increased 16% for the year as strong demand for advanced wearables and cycling products fueled our growth. Full year gross and operating margins were 53% and 24%, respectively, resulting in operating income growth of 17% over the prior year. In the fourth quarter, fitness revenue was flat over the prior year as growth in wearables was offset by lower revenue in cycling.

  • Product differentiation is a key factor in our ability to compete in the market for wearables. Lily is a great example, with its small form factor, appealing design and unique display that hides when not in use. Customers buying Lily are overwhelmingly new to the Garmin brand, demonstrating the power of differentiation to attract new customers.

  • The cycling category has more than doubled over the past 2 years, fueled by pandemic-driven demand for both indoor and outdoor cycling products. The market is starting to normalize at levels below recent peaks but well above pre-pandemic levels. With this in mind, we expect Fitness revenue to be flat year-over-year as growth in wearables is offset by lower revenue in cycling products. In addition, we expect revenue to decline in the first half as we compare against stronger periods from the prior year. In the back half of the year, we expect to return to growth as the cycling market stabilizes and with contributions from new products.

  • In the outdoor segment, full year revenue increased 14%, with growth across multiple categories, driven by strong demand for adventure watches. Full year growth and operating margins were 65% and 38%, respectively, resulting in operating income growth of 9%. In the fourth quarter, outdoor revenue decreased 8%, primarily due to component constraints in our traditional handheld and dog product categories. We ended the year with unusually high back orders, which were pushed into the new year.

  • On January 18, we announced sweeping updates to our fenix adventure watch series, featuring a distinctive new design and a touchscreen display. We also announced the all-new epix with a bright AMOLED touchscreen display and class-leading battery life up to 16 days. Last week, we announced the all-new Instinct 2 series in 2 sizes, which will expand the addressable market for this unique adventure watch. Select Instinct 2 models with solar technology can operate indefinitely using only the power of the sun, which is a breakthrough achievement in the smartwatch market. Demand for these new products has been very strong, and we expect them to be a significant catalyst for growth in the coming year. With these things in mind, we anticipate Outdoor revenue will increase approximately 20% for the year.

  • Looking next at the aviation segment, full year revenue increased 14% due to contributions from both OEM and aftermarket categories. Full year gross and operating margins were 73% and 27%, respectively, resulting in operating income growth of 40%. In the fourth quarter, Aviation revenue was up 13% driven by growth in OEM categories. Aftermarket sales were flat due to component supply constraints. Aviation also ended the year with unusually high levels of back orders, which carried into the new year.

  • The pandemic highlighted the unique value proposition of General Aviation. Aircraft OEMs are reporting robust orders from both new and existing customers. Aftermarket demand is also strong as customers invest in new cockpit systems. We expect these trends to drive revenue growth of 10% for the year, with revenue exceeding the peak we experienced during the ADS-B mandate. We expect incrementally stronger growth in the back half as production levels increase over the course of the year.

  • Moving to marine. The segment delivered another year of impressive results. Revenue increased 33% with broad-based growth across all categories, led by strong demand for chartplotters. We benefited from both market expansion and share gains driven by our strong product portfolio. Full year growth in operating margins were 57% and 28%, respectively, resulting in operating income growth of 39%. In the fourth quarter, marine revenue increased 14% as the strong trends we experienced throughout the year continued.

  • We recently acquired Vesper Marine, a company specializing in the design of modern VHF radio systems for the marine market. Looking forward, we anticipate the strong interest in boating and fishing will remain strong. Boat builders continue to report strong sales and retail partners are preparing for another year of growth. With these things in mind, we anticipate revenue from the Marine segment will increase 15%, surpassing the $1 billion threshold for the year.

  • Moving finally to the auto segment. Full year revenue increased 26% with contributions from both auto OEM and consumer auto categories. Full year gross margin was 39%, and we recorded an operating loss of $71 million driven by investments in auto OEM programs. In the fourth quarter, auto revenue was up 21%, with contributions from consumer specialty categories and new OEM programs. In consumer auto, we continue to launch new specialty categories that lead to growth opportunities.

  • At CES, we announced the Tread series for side-by-side vehicles, bringing off-road specific features and in-reach communications to the side-by-side market. Last week, we announced the Instinct dezl edition, the first smartwatch designed specifically for the trucking market. BMW recently unveiled their vision for in-car entertainment, bringing a truly cinematic experience into the vehicle. This immersive entertainment system is powered by a multimedia computing platform designed and built by Garmin. We continue to invest heavily to bring this and other BMW systems to market. The investment has been more significant than anticipated, and these investments are expected to continue throughout the remainder of the year as we fulfill our obligations to BMW.

  • This will result in auto OEM operating loss for the year that is roughly comparable to that of 2021. We expect to start production of the next-generation BMW computing platform later this year at low volumes, with a more meaningful production ramp occurring in 2023. With these things in mind, we expect total auto revenue to grow approximately 5% for the year.

  • So that concludes my remarks. Next, Doug will walk through additional details on financial results and our updated guidance. Doug?

  • Douglas Gerard Boessen - CFO & Treasurer

  • Thanks, Cliff. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to begin by reviewing our fourth quarter and full year financial results, provide comments on the balance sheet, cash flow statement, taxes and 2022 guidance.

  • We posted revenue over $1.3 billion for the fourth quarter, representing a 3% increase year-over-year. Gross margin was 55.5%, 300 basis point decrease from the prior year quarter. Decrease was primarily due to higher freight costs and favorable impact of foreign exchange rates. Operating expense as a percentage of sales was 32.8%, 170 basis point increase. Operating income was $315 million, a 15% decrease. Operating margin was 22.6%, 480 basis point decrease from the prior year. Our GAAP EPS was $1.48. Pro forma EPS was $1.55, a 10% decrease from the prior year pro forma EPS.

  • Looking at the full year results. We posted revenue over $4.9 billion, representing a 19% increase year-over-year. Gross margin was 58%, 130 basis point decrease from the prior year. The decrease was primarily due to higher freight costs. Operating expense as a percentage of sales was 33.6%, [3 basis point] decrease. Operating income was $1.2 billion, a 16% increase. Operating margin was 24.5%, 70 basis point decrease from the prior year. Our GAAP EPS was $5.61. Pro forma EPS was $5.82, a 13% increase from the prior year pro forma EPS.

  • Next, look at fourth quarter revenue by segment and geography. During the quarter, we achieved consolidated growth of 3% with double-digit growth in the aviation, marine and auto segments, partially offset by a decline in the outdoor segment. Fitness segment was relatively flat year-over-year. By geography, 8% growth in APAC and 5% growth in Americas was partially offset by a decline of 2% in EMEA, which was negatively impacted by foreign exchange rates during the quarter. For the full year 2021, we achieved 19% consolidated growth with solid double-digit growth in all of our 5 segments. By geography, we achieved double-digit growth in all 3 regions, led by 21% growth in APAC, followed by 19% in Americas, 18% EMEA.

  • Looking at operating expenses, fourth quarter operating expenses increased by $37 million or 9%. Research and development increased $22 million year-over-year, primarily due to engineering personnel costs. SG&A increased $15 million from the prior year quarter, primarily due to increases in personnel-related expenses, information technology costs. Our advertising expense was consistent with the prior year quarter.

  • A few highlights on the balance sheet, cash flow statement and dividends. We ended the quarter with cash and marketable securities of approximately $3.1 billion. Accounts receivable increased sequentially $343 million due to strong sales in the fourth quarter and was relatively flat year-over-year. Inventory increased year-over-year to $1.2 billion. The increase was due to several factors including preparation for first quarter product launches, increased levels of indoor cycling products, expansion of our global manufacturing footprint and executing our strategy to increase supply to support our increasingly diversified product lines.

  • During 2022, we expect our inventory balance to continue to grow to work to optimize the mix of ocean versus air freight shipments, produce efficient level of safety stock to mitigate increased lead times and generally manage the supply of raw materials.

  • During the fourth quarter of 2021, we generated free cash flow of $49 million. For the full year 2021, we generated free cash flow of approximately $705 million, a $245 million decrease from the prior year, primarily due to increased inventory levels and higher capital expenditures.

  • In 2022, we expect free cash flow to be approximately $725 million with approximately $310 million of capital expenditures. For 2022, we expect to continue to make investments, platforms for growth, including our Taiwan manufacturing facilities, continued renovation of our Olathe facilities to increase work space capacity and IT-related projects. Also, we announced our plans to seek share approval for an increase in our dividend beginning with the June 2022 payment, proposal of a cash dividend of $2.92 per share or $0.73 per share per quarter. This is a 9% increase from our current quarterly dividend of [$0.67] (corrected by company after the call) per share. For full year 2021, we report an effective tax rate of 10.3%.

  • Turning next to our full year guidance. We estimate revenue of approximately $5.5 billion, an increase of 10% over the prior year, with double-digit growth in 3 of our 5 segments. We expect gross margin to be approximately 57.5%, which is lower than our full year 2021 gross margin, primarily due to higher supply chain costs and less favorable foreign exchange rates, partially offset by increases in selling prices. We expect an operating margin of approximately 22.8%. The full year pro forma effective tax rate is expected to be approximately 10.5%. This results in expected pro forma earnings per share of approximately $5.90.

  • Finally, I've discussed the changes in our methodology for classification of certain expenses and allocation of certain expenses among the segments. We plan to reflect these changes in our reporting for the first quarter of 2022, and prior periods will be recast to conform to revised presentation. The new expense classification result in less indirect SG&A costs being classified as R&D expense, which we believe will provide a more meaningful representation of the cost incurred to support R&D activities, consistent with the way management will use the information in decision-making. We estimated approximately $61 million expense as classified as R&D in 2021 will be reclassed as SG&A.

  • Future reports will also reflect a refined methodology to allocate certain SG&A expenses to the segments in a more direct manner, based on analysis of activity supported by the expenses. We believe this refined allocation approach result in a more meaningful representation of segment operating income. We estimate that fitness and outdoor will be allocated more S&A expenses, resulting in lower operating margin while other segments will be allocated less SG&A expenses, resulting in higher operating margin. These changes have no impact on our consolidated operating income or net income.

  • This concludes our formal remarks. Valerie, please open the line for Q&A.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Nik Todorov of Longbow Research.

  • Nikolay Todorov - Analyst

  • Yes. And congrats on great execution and results. Cliff, I think I heard you mentioned during the prepared remarks that you're raising prices in some segments. Can you talk in which categories or segments are you able to mitigate the rising input cost? And how should we think about the cadence of that mitigation throughout the year? I'm assuming in some segments, it's harder to pass through to increase prices immediately?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. Nik, we have a diversified business. And so each segment and sometimes within each segment's different product categories have different considerations when it comes to pricing. We're looking at a combination of both more broad price increases where we are able as well as resetting product pricing as we introduce new products.

  • I think that's most of what I would probably comment on right now. And I think it will take some time for some of these changes, of course, to come through, but I'm confident that we'll be able to see a difference as time goes on.

  • Nikolay Todorov - Analyst

  • Okay. Got it. And as a follow-up, can you talk about how are you navigating through the component constraints? I think particularly in aviation, something we've heard is that, obviously, component lead times have stretched quite a bit, but some components that are used in avionics have been announced as end of life. So I'm just curious, are you facing any redesigning activity? And how should we think about potentially that impacting aviation margins in the near term?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. I think component constraints have been a challenge for a while now. As I mentioned in my remarks, vertical integration is a huge differentiating factor for us because we're able to use alternative components and we're able to redesign things when we need to. And we have maintained very good relationships with the suppliers. They're under a lot of pressure at this time, too, and they certainly get a lot of people beating them up. We try to focus on relationships.

  • But that said, particularly in Aviation, you mentioned end of life as a potential issue. That's really not a new thing in aviation. I think avionics designs tend to have longer life cycles. So consequently, we've dealt with that issue for a long time, and we manage through that mostly through a combination of redesigns and also safety stock. So again, I think we're able to handle this situation better than most because of our strong R&D and our focus on vertical integration.

  • Nikolay Todorov - Analyst

  • Got it. Very helpful. And Doug, if I can sneak one in for you. Just can you talk about OpEx puts and takes in 2022? I know you mentioned you're going to be changing the -- and reallocating expenses. But based on the current reported basis, how should we think about OpEx parts moving as a percent of sales?

  • Douglas Gerard Boessen - CFO & Treasurer

  • Sure. So yes, a percentage of sales for the full year and looking at the different categories, yes, I'll talk about it on the new methodology, from that standpoint, that's what we were reporting in 2022 when we were recasting '21. So we expect on overall operating expenses as a percent of sales year-over-year, probably about 120 basis point increase year-over-year.

  • And looking at the various categories, first, advertising. We expect advertising sales to be up slightly, maybe about 10 basis points. And looking at R&D, we expect that to be up probably about 40 basis points as a percentage of sales. There, we're continuing to make investments in head count as well as compensation-related items impacting R&D. Then in SG&A, we expect that to be up about 70 basis points as a percentage of sales year-over-year. There, the big driver is primarily IT costs, but also we'll see increased costs in other parts of our business such as product support operations, just because of increased volume as well as more consumers and users.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Paul Chung of JPMorgan.

  • Paul Chung - VP & IT Hardware Analyst

  • Very nice print. So just on margins, given the very strong kind of outdoor, aviation revenue guide, I would have thought that kind of overall margins would have seen some benefits there, even with the kind of negative auto contribution this year? So can you quantify maybe the freight components kind of headwind baked in the margin guide?

  • Douglas Gerard Boessen - CFO & Treasurer

  • Yes, this is Doug. We don't give a breakout of the different components of gross margin on freight. A little bit of background on what's driving that. The 50 basis point decline, so we do expect to see higher supply chain costs year-over-year. Freight increased during the year in 2021, so we're going up against tougher comps in freight the first part of the year. Also, we will see some headwinds relating to FX, also foreign exchange rate in there, too, that will give us some headwinds in that too.

  • So -- and then as Cliff mentioned, we're looking to increase selling prices where we can. But as you mentioned, there's a lot of puts and takes, a lot of moving parts in that gross margin. You have, like you've mentioned, some different things relating to segment mix. And there, we factored in new product launches. But there are overall still some headwinds on the supply chain side of things and FX that are bringing that, I'll say, from an overall basis, down about 50 basis points.

  • Paul Chung - VP & IT Hardware Analyst

  • Got you. And then just on outdoor with handhelds and dog products maybe pushing into '22, should we expect a little less seasonality in 1Q as a result? And then if you could expand on the outdoor guide, which is quite impressive. What's driving the confidence in that guide? And how is the fenix refresh been received?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. I think the handheld and dog products, as I mentioned, Paul, the back orders for those, of course, push into the new year. And those were driven by supply constraints that we experienced at the end of last year. Those are getting incrementally better, although we still are taking a wait-and-see attitude, but we're building and shipping everything that we can. I think that those categories are meaningful but small in the overall scheme of the outdoor segment. So I don't think you're really going to notice a lot of seasonality effect because of that.

  • In terms of the guide and the potential impact on -- from the new adventure watches that we introduced, the reception of those watches has been very strong, as I mentioned. And of course, the interest in those products and the momentum from them is behind our 20% estimated growth for the year. So we're very pleased with that, and we think we'll have a very good year in Outdoor.

  • Paul Chung - VP & IT Hardware Analyst

  • And then lastly, on aviation, your guide implies revenue is now well above the record '19 levels on ADS-B. But what's driving the guide this year? How has the product portfolio evolved? And then how should we think about operating margins for '22 in aviation? Can we end the year kind of approaching that 30% or exceed that?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. So definitely, we've recovered a lot of revenue that went away after the ADS-B mandate. We expected that revenue to go away because it was a once-in-a-generation mandate from the FAA to equip every general aviation aircraft, which once that's done, that opportunity, of course, is gone. But we've been able to recover those revenues through a strong product line. Particularly our flight control systems are very strong, very well received in the market, and that's driven upgrades in cockpits.

  • And as I mentioned in my remarks, the general sentiment around OEM aircraft makers is that order books are strong. Customer interest is very strong. And of course, we're in the bell curve of General Aviation, which gives us the ability to grow along with the market there.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Jeffrey Rand of Deutsche Bank.

  • Jeffrey A. Rand - Research Associate

  • Congrats on a good quarter and year. Your auto OEM business is clearly a good growth opportunity for you going forward but at a lower margin compared to some of your other businesses. How do you think about the revenue growth opportunity versus the headwind to gross margin for the overall company for this business?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, I think, Jeffrey, the opportunity in auto OEM, of course, is the large scale that comes with these big programs. So that's what we've been investing to, to bring to market, as I mentioned. They do come with a different margin profile. That hasn't really been our concern relative to the rest of the business because we're focusing on the revenue growth and the scale opportunity. But the challenge for us in -- going forward, of course, is proving that we can get that scale and also be profitable in the business.

  • Jeffrey A. Rand - Research Associate

  • Great. And as a follow-up, you noted a reduction in your cycling products in your prepared comments, and there have been some demand concerns at one of the largest indoor cycling companies recently. How do you think about this business going forward? And if there was some pull-in during the earlier part of the pandemic, how long do you think this takes to work through before the business kind of returns to typical growth?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. I think your question is interesting. We're not here, of course, to talk about specific names, but I think I understand your comment. And I would say that our indoor cycling products are very different from some of the headline companies that have been talked about a lot recently. Our products are focused on athleticism and performance, and we're not really in the spin bike business, which has been hit pretty hard by people returning to gyms.

  • But in terms of pull-in, there probably was some. People got interested in those kinds of products, so they did equip their bikes, they did equip their homes with training devices. But as I mentioned, we're seeing the market sell out, normalize around levels above that of 2019, which was the last normal year in that cycle. So there's some high channel inventory right now, not necessarily specific to our product lines, but every trainer maker rushed into the market and filled the channels. And so that will take some time to work through. We expect probably the better part of this year before things really normalize.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Ben Bollin of Cleveland Research.

  • Benjamin James Bollin - Senior Research Analyst

  • Cliff, I guess it's been danced around a little bit, but when you look at the spread in terms of your 2022 guidance for outdoor and fitness, it's the widest gap we've seen since -- I guess, 2017, it ended up being about a 35-point spread between the 2 in terms of year-over-year growth. But I guess I'm interested in your thoughts on the high-end wearables within the segments. Do you see any secular changes out there, which are moving the difference between the 2 outlooks and the growth rates? Or going back to that last question, do you think it's just inventory and cycling? What's driving that spread?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, lots of moving pieces, Ben, and you've kind of hit on the major ones. The one thing I would just highlight in addition is that product life cycle differences between the 2 segments can definitely impact the growth patterns between the segments. We're coming off a super strong launch in outdoor, as I mentioned, with the new fenix, the epix and the Instinct products. And the cadence of introductions in fitness is a little bit different, combine that with the overall normalizing of the cycling market, that's why there's the difference between outdoor and fitness.

  • Benjamin James Bollin - Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay. And the last one for you is, if you look through the elevated auto OEM investments that are happening right now, when you're on the back end of this, when you're into 2023, any thoughts on what a normalized margin might look like within that business over time?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • I think we've mentioned before and is very typical in the auto business that the margins can be in the mid to high teens on certain highest volume product line. So that's what we're expecting. I think that's what we've communicated before to the market.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Will Power of Baird.

  • William Verity Power - Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay. I guess a couple of questions. Maybe circling back on fitness. I know, Cliff, you noted some of the cycling headwinds, which probably aren't a big surprise. But would love to get a bit more color on the confidence and key drivers within the wearables segment that you expect to help offset some of the cycling pressure. And I guess within that, any color on Forerunner and what you're seeing there? Is that something that you think can grow as we kind of come out of the pandemic? Just thoughts there, too.

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. I think we put out our view of the year based on a high level of confidence that we can achieve what we say. I think that we've seen a continual strength in the advanced wearables. That's really all products with GPS smartwatch capability in our fitness product line. So we -- that includes Runner, that includes Venu and vívoactive and all those kinds of products. We're coming off of strong releases from last year in some of the advanced consumer wearables, and then our running products have refreshes coming as well.

  • So all of those things coming together, we feel like will be positive things. And when you consider that events, particularly, races like 10Ks, half marathons, marathons have been mostly canceled during the last 2 years, as some of those start to come online, we think it will drive additional interest in running products.

  • William Verity Power - Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay. And then just second question. On marine, how do we think about the potential pull-forward impact you saw there? Obviously, you're confident in a continuing strong growth outlook. So it feels like you're not expecting as much of a comp issue there, but would love any kind of color there. And then any thoughts on Vesper Marine and the impact that would have on the '22 guidance?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • In terms of potential pull forward in Marine, it's always a possibility, I suppose. But in general, the marine market has been very constrained with the supply of boats, whether it's new boats from manufacturers or used boats. People are not letting go of their boats. And so consequently, they're equipping their boats. There are a lot of boats out there in use that have very old equipment. These are long-lived assets on the boat. So there's plenty of opportunity for retrofit in the market. And as the new boats are built, many of them are equipped with Garmin products. And so we believe that the growth opportunity in Marine is still very good.

  • In terms of Vesper, just to quickly comment on that, I would say that it's a technology and engineering acquisition for us. So it's not material in terms of revenue or cost structure, but the group had very significant design capabilities in the area of VHF radios, and so that's an area we want to build our capability in.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Erik Woodring of Morgan Stanley.

  • Erik William Richard Woodring - Research Associate

  • Maybe if we just stay on marine for one second. Can you help us just better understand how the drivers of the marine business are changing at all? Meaning we know there are still backlog that's in the OEM business that's typically a smaller part of your marine business. But what are you just seeing in 2022 versus 2021 that give you the confidence in the 15% growth?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. I would say, Erik, it's really the same factors that drove 2021 that carried forward into 2022. We see strong demand from the boat builders as they ramp up production to fill the demand. They've got historic back orders on their books as well. So they're increasing their production. That benefits us. And then generally, the enthusiasm around new technologies in marine, particularly the fishing area and the advanced sonars that we offer, continues to be strong, bringing new people into the market, causing them to replace their old equipment, including both sonars and chartplotters. So these trends have been the same for a while now, and we expect those to continue in 2022.

  • Erik William Richard Woodring - Research Associate

  • Okay. And then maybe if we just touch on the cost side. I guess based on the kind of the revenue -- and segment revenue and then total gross margin disclosure, we do have to assume that gross margins are down across most segments. Is that fair to think? Or should it be more acute in certain segments?

  • And then on the operating side, just -- is the pressure mostly blamed on investments in autos? Or again, is there investment outside of autos that is going to be more elevated in 2022 relative to, say, 2021?

  • Douglas Gerard Boessen - CFO & Treasurer

  • Yes. Regarding the gross margin, it's -- a lot of factors in place there, product launches, new products, take that into consideration, some are more impacted on FX than other ones. And as Cliff mentioned, some are related to selling prices. So we do expect probably some kind of depressed overall consolidated, but I think it's going to be a mix among the various segments to get that overall one.

  • And I probably would say auto OEM, one we probably would see that gross margins, we'd say that would be down year-over-year just because the BMW will be a bigger piece of that overall business; and then fitness also as some of the pressures that they have will probably be down there, too. I mean other ones are probably depending upon what the product launches and all those different things.

  • Relating to the cost side, yes, auto side, the R&D expenses will probably be up over the previous year in 2021. But also, we're seeing increased investments across all of our businesses, R&D. We'll make those investments to really drive innovation. As well, we'll see some, from the SG&A side of things, IT type of costs increasing, those type of things, just a higher level of our business, larger footprints. We have manufacturing operations, those type of things are driving some expense in there also.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Ron Epstein of Bank of America.

  • Ronald Jay Epstein - MD in Equity Research & Industry Analyst

  • In your supply chain relative to aviation, right, I mean the private aviation market is pretty much on fire, right? So I would imagine the demand signals you're seeing from some of your OEM customers, if they're not really strong right now, they will be, soon. I mean how are you set up for that potential ramp?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, we're prepared with plenty of factory capacity. We have always focused on a strong supply chain in aviation so that we can meet the needs of our customers. And as I mentioned in my remarks, absolutely, we see the demand from the OEM side and they're reporting robust orders. And so we feel like we're very prepared for the increases that they're looking at.

  • Ronald Jay Epstein - MD in Equity Research & Industry Analyst

  • Great. And then what -- in terms of -- if you can even shed any light on it, because I know it's a sensitive thing to talk about, but what's going on in the new platform side? I mean are you guys actively working with OEMs on potential new platforms?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Sure.

  • Ronald Jay Epstein - MD in Equity Research & Industry Analyst

  • That's it? Sure?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, we're always working on things. And of course, we can't share anything in advance, but we're always working with new customers and new platforms.

  • Ronald Jay Epstein - MD in Equity Research & Industry Analyst

  • All right. Fair enough. I know that's a tough question. But -- and then with the fenix and the epix, the fenix 7 and the new epix, which are you seeing a better response to? Because they seem to be pretty similar products.

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • They're -- I suppose they're similar in some respects, but they're really very different and they probably appeal to different users, but they've both been very strong. We're especially pleased, of course, with epix. I think people have embraced that very quickly. And in both of those product lines, we're seeing very strong demand, which exceeded our expectations.

  • Ronald Jay Epstein - MD in Equity Research & Industry Analyst

  • Got it. And I mean the natural question is, it exceeded your expectations, so do you have the supply chain to meet that demand?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • We feel like we have plenty of contingencies, and we're working on increasing our supply.

  • Ronald Jay Epstein - MD in Equity Research & Industry Analyst

  • Got it. Got it. Got it. And then maybe just one last question around just logistics, given that you've got a relatively complex supply chain, meaning you've got stuff coming from Asia and then you've got stuff built here in the U.S., how are you seeing the kind of the transpacific logistics of product?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • I think the situation is challenging, like everyone is reporting. So we are no different than that. We see the same things, and we're working on managing that situation the best we can. It's a pragmatic balance between product availability, which speaks to shorter, faster shipment methods, which, of course, are more expensive versus inventory levels, which allow us to get inventory on slower modes of transportation, which are more affordable. So we're doing our best to balance, and I think we have a lot of levers that we can use in doing that.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Derek Soderberg of Colliers Securities.

  • Derek John Soderberg - Senior Research Analyst

  • Cliff, just curious if you could talk more about the retail channel broadly. There's been some reporting that a lot of Q4 growth came from inventory building. So if you could just share what you're seeing as it relates to sell-in, sell-through broadly, that would be great.

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • I think retail channels were very dry for all the reasons that we know. And so certainly, retailers wanted to have inventory available so that they could sell to customers. But at this moment, we feel like sell-through is very good. We can definitely track sell-through, through our product registrations and our app platforms, and we feel good about what we see there. And we don't believe there's any imbalances that are material out in the channel except for the ones we've noted, which is really the trainer market.

  • Derek John Soderberg - Senior Research Analyst

  • Got it. And I also wanted to ask about supply. You guys have done a really good job on inventory. It seems like you've done better than most. Now you have more capacity online with our new facility. Have you been, to any degree, benefiting at all from supply chain issues, relatively speaking, versus competitors and I guess in terms of Garmin just getting more product on the shelves?

  • Clifton Albert Pemble - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. I think we have been the beneficiary of some of the challenges that others have faced. So our investments in inventory, our investments in capacity and our ability to be agile with our product designs has helped us a lot in several segments.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Teri Seck for any closing remarks.

  • Teri Seck - Manager of IR

  • Thanks, everyone. As always, Doug and I are available for callbacks throughout the day. Have a good one. Bye.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.