Gaotu Techedu Inc (GOTU) 2024 Q4 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Gaotu Techedu Inc fourth quarter and fiscal year 2024 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing then 0 on your telephone keypad. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press 2. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conferences over to your first speaker today, Ms. Katherine Chen, head of investor relations. Please go ahead, Catherine.

  • Catherine Chen - Head of Investor Relations

  • Thank you, operator. Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining Gaotu's fourth quarter and physical year 2024 earnings conference call. My name is Catherine, and I'll help host the earnings call today. Gaotu's earnings release for the quarter was distributed earlier and is available on the company's IR website at IR.gaotu.cn as well as through PR Newswire services.

  • Joining the call with me tonight from Gaotu to Senior Management is Mr. Larry Chen, Gaotu's founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Ms. Shannon Shen, Gaotu's Chief Financial Officer.

  • Larry will first provide the business highlights for the quarter and then afterwards Shannon will discuss our financial performance in more detail.

  • Following their prepared remarks, we'll open the floor to questions from analysts. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that this conference call will contain forward-looking statements made under the Safe Harbor provision of the US Private Security Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

  • These forward-looking statements are based upon management's current beliefs and expectations. As well as the current market and operating condition, and they involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the company's control and may cost the company's actual results, performance, or achievements to differ materially from those contained in any forward-looking statements.

  • Further information regarding this and other risks is included in the company's public filing with the US SEC. The company does not undertake any obligations to update any forward-looking statement except as required under applicable law.

  • During today's call, management will also discuss certain non-gap measures for comparison purpose only. For definition of non-gap financial measures and reconciliation of GAAP to non-gap financial results, please refer to our fourth quarter and physical year 2024 earnings release published earlier today.

  • As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. In addition, a live and archived webcast of this conference call will be live on Gaotu's IR website.

  • It is now my pleasure to introduce our founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Larry. Larry Please.

  • Xiangdong Chen - Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

  • Good evening and good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us on Gaotu's fourth quarter and the fiscal year 2024 earnings conference call. I would like to take this opportunity to express my gratitude to each of you for your interest and the support of Gao.

  • Before I start, I would like to remind everyone that all financial figures discussed today are quoted in RMB unless stated otherwise, driven by our dual pillars of a strategic focus and organizational capability enhancement. The value for the customers had been comprehensively improved. This quarter, we made a substantial progress in both revenue growth and the user expansion.

  • Utilizing profound insights into user needs, we have developed a comprehensive spectrum of products and services that cover various learning scenarios. Further enhancing the user experience and. Having substantial high-quality growth. What is particularly exhilarating is the breakthrough in cognitive reasoning achieved by AGI technologies represented by deepSeek coupled with its outstanding cost efficiency.

  • This innovation is not merely a technological leap. It acts as a powerful catalyst, sparkling the development of a new generation of intelligent educational resolutions. Not only does this technological advancement aligns strongly with our existing AI strategy, but it also significantly accelerates our efforts to enhance learning effectiveness and boost organizational performance.

  • And this once so the years opportunity as the intersection of technology and education, we are proactively and vigorously pursuing the deep integration of AI within educational frameworks.

  • We are steadfast in commitment to the core educational principles of providing personalized and adaptive learning experiences for every learner. Our fourth quarter financial results underscore this positive momentum and a dynamic growth, as well as a strong resilience of our business.

  • Revenue increased by 82.5% year over year to nearly RMB1.4 billion, with growth billions significantly exceeding our expectations up by 69.0%. To over RMB2.1 billion loss from operations narrowed by 20.6% with operating margin improving by 13.9% points, demonstrating our continued progress in profitability. And the tangible impact of our efficiency-driven initiatives. Additionally, we generated a net operating cash inflow of RMB783.6 million this quarter, bringing our cash equivalents, restricted cash, short- and long-term investments to RMB4.1 billion as of December 31, 2024. This robust cash position provides a solid foundation for our further strategic initiatives and the long-term sustainable growth. Now, I will introduce our strategic progress and the key highlights for this quarter from three perspectives.

  • First and foremost, fully embracing our AI strategy. We are dedicated to creating a personalized, efficient and scalable system for learner growth and the support.

  • As a persistent innovation and a pioneer in the field of education, we firmly believe that the next generation of AI technology will suddenly transform the learning experience and the significantly enhanced learning efficiency. Our years of focused efforts in the education sector and the hands-on teaching experience have enabled us to accurately grasp the diverse needs of students and the parents. Deeply understand their pain points in the learning process and the develop keen insights into the fundamental principles of education.

  • These invaluable real-world insights from the foundation of our innovation development enabling us to offer students more tailored and targeted learning support, making the learning process more precise, intelligent, and the personalized. Moving forward, we will continue to invest in key areas such as technological development, talent cultivation, and the resource integration.

  • We remain committed to exploring diverse AI-driven solutions in education and the fostering more personalized learning environments that help students learn in ways that best suit their needs and lock their full potential and support their personal growth.

  • As we continue to optimize the user learning experience, we are simultaneously translating our technological price into tangible educational outcomes, achieving mutual reinforcement through a through systematic implementation. Our AI driven co-pilot intelligent teaching platform is a methodically upgrading the entire educational services value chain.

  • In certain user acquisition scenarios, our intelligent customer service system dramatically reduces the response time and the elevates efficiency by ninefold. Leveraging key insights into user needs and generating dynamic content regarding homework. AI assisted engines are boosting teacher grading efficiency by over 50%. In study planning, the deep seek powered cross selection model is providing students with tailored data-driven decision making support.

  • This technological penetration now extends to core aspects, including research and development and the curriculum design, creating a precise intelligent, and a personalized educational service loop.

  • Second, we remain commitment to the essence of education, driving sustained growth through teaching excellence. We firmly believe that refining educational products, enhancing teaching quality, and optimizing learning services are fundamental. To building a lasting competitive edge. To this end, we continue to invest in product development, fine tuning content, and the fostering close collaboration between doctors and tutors to ensure seamless integration of a curriculum and teaching services. In terms of curriculum development, we have built a diverse portfolio encompassing online large classes, one on one sessions, study aids and the books, among others, supported by AI driven recommendations and adaptive learning technology, we are able to deliver personalized learning solutions that cater to each student's unique needs.

  • This quarter, the retention rates for new enrolments in both our non-academic tutoring. And the traditional learning services show the steady improvement, highlighting the effectiveness of our efforts in enhancing educational products and learning services and the strong recognition of our teaching outcomes by users. Third, we actively uphold the social responsibilities aligning long term shareholder value with broader societal impact.

  • Staying true to our regional aspirations, we remain dedicated to promoting educational equity as a part of this effort, we have established the Beijing G Foundation, leveraging our advanced technology and high quality educational. Resources to support the holistic development of rural students, broadening their perspectives and elevating the overall teaching capabilities of rural educators. We have also made solid progress in enhancing long term shareholder value.

  • As of February 21, 2025, we have allocated nearly USD47.5 million in aggregate for share buybacks, including over RMB8.1 million ADS bought back for USD28.8 million US dollars in 2024.

  • Represents 3.2% of our total outstanding shares as of the end of 2024, reflecting a further improvement from 2023. These actions highlight our unwavering commitment to shareholder returns and reinforce our strong confidence in the company's future.

  • Looking ahead to 2025, guided by our healthy growth strategy, we will further advance our AI initiatives, driving innovation across the education industry while creating long-term value for our shareholders, users, and the society at large.

  • Thank you very much, everyone. This is the end of my prepared remarks. Now, I will pass the call over to our CFO Shannon to walk you through the financial and operational details of the quarter.

  • Shannon Shen - Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you, Larry, and thank you everyone for joining our call today. I will now walk you through our operating and financial performance for the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2024.

  • This year, we demonstrated strong strategic perseverance in a rapidly evolving and changing market landscape. Achieving key milestones in our business.

  • As the scale of our business reaches new heights, we have established flexible and dynamic resource allocation mechanisms to continuously calibrate and guide our approach to steer the business toward sustainable growth. We ended the year on a high note with solid financial results and major business breakthroughs.

  • Further strengthening the competitive edge of our core operations. During the fourth quarter, our revenue grew by 82.5% year over year, reaching an annual peak. And increased by 29.4% sequentially driven by the continued extension of our active user base and long-term accumulation of teaching excellence.

  • Meanwhile, gross buildings maintained strong growth momentum, rising by 69.0% year over year. These results not only underscore our business success in expanding market scale but also highlight the increasing strength of our brand influence and growing market recognition.

  • On the profitability front, a growing base of existing users contributed to improve margins fully supported by the economics of scale. As a result, loss from operations for the quarter narrowed significantly year over year.

  • This progress reflects our success in maintaining a healthy union economics model and driving greater operational efficiency. Laying a solid foundation for long-term growth. For the full year, net revenues increased by 53.8% year over year to approximately RMB4.6 billion. Well, growth billings grew by 68.1% year over year to over RMB5.6 billion. We generated RMB258.0 million in net operating cash inflow for the year. As of December 31st, 2024, our total cash position, including cash and cash equivalents, restricted cash, and short and long-term investments to do at RMB4.1 billion.

  • Excluding the impact of share repurchase, our cash reserves increased by RMB183.9 million compared to the same time last year, ensuring ample financial flexibility to support business development and provides a sufficient margin of safety for our strategic investments.

  • Next, I will walk you through the progress we have made during the quarter. Learning services contributed more than 95% of those revenues.

  • Breaking it down. Nearly 85% of total revenues came from non-academic tutoring services and other traditional learning services. Representing a triple digit year over year increase.

  • Focusing on the academic tutoring services, our new initiatives remain dedicated to driving continuous innovation in educational products and learning services to enhance teaching effectiveness and the overall learning experience. By introducing new products and diverse interactive course formats.

  • We are constantly igniting students' interest in learning, fostering cognitive growth, improving practical skills. [C] waiting critical thinking and instilling lifelong learning abilities.

  • During the quarter, this segment sustained strong growth momentum. Achieving triple digit year over year growth in gross bids for the third consecutive quarters. Our ongoing refinement of both educational products and teaching approaches has also contributed to improved retention.

  • With retention rate for new students rising by more than 5% points year over year. Our traditional learning services continue to maintain a leading position in the online education sector. On the product development front. We further enhanced our content mode by building a comprehensive. Multi-tiered ecosystem of teaching assistants and books to meet the diverse learning needs of students at different levels.

  • Our self-developed book series has been adopted by schools across multiple provinces in China. This highlights the strong demand for our products and expands our brand presence and market range.

  • In terms of teaching quality and services, key performance indicators such as retention rates and user satisfaction remain at industry-leaning levels.

  • Reaffirming the strength of our offerings and supporting sustained healthy growth of our business. The other crucial component of our learning services is educational services for college students and adults. Through strategic focus and streamlined optimization. Core offerings in this segment gained robust growth momentum.

  • Contributing nearly 15% of total revenues in the quarter. We have leveraged AI technology to enhance the teaching model for our educational services for college students, significantly improving teaching efficiency and enabling a sustainable increase in the tutor to student ratio.

  • Additionally, ongoing enhancements in product and service quality further optimize the overall user experience, leading to a steady rise in referrals and creating a self-reinforcing word of mouth effect. From a financial perspective, [Gaotu's] feelings for this segment grew by high double digit growth year over year this quarter.

  • Well, revenue doubled compared to the same period last year. On a full year basis, both revenue and gross bids experienced rapid expansion. And for the first time, the segment hit profitability on an annual basis. With operating net cash inflow reaching 3.5 times that of the prior year. This marks a major milestone in our path toward more sustainable operations. Our overseas tax private business continues to demonstrate its professional value.

  • This year, we successfully help students gain admission to Harvard, Columbia, Cornell, and other yale League schools and other prestigious international universities, highlighting the effectiveness of our service offerings. These achievements stem from our deep understanding of user needs and our ongoing commitment to service quality and process excellence.

  • Looking ahead, we will remain focused on the technological innovation and deepening user value to drive high quality growth. By leveraging cutting edge AI technologies, a diverse product portfolio, and unique advantage of rich learning scenarios.

  • We aim to deliver user-centric, personalized, and high effective learning solutions. Establishing ourselves as the most trusted partner in every learner's journey. I will now present our financials in more detail. Our cost of revenue this quarter was RMB440.3 million.

  • Gross profits increased 77.8% year over year to RMB948.3 million with a growth margin of 68.3%. Total operating expenses during the quarter increased 52.2% year over year to approximately RMB1.1 billion.

  • Breaking it down, selling expenses this quarter increased 58.1% year over year to RMB736.2 million. Accounting for 53.0% of net revenue. Research and development expenses increased 6.6% year over year to RMB145.1 million, accounting for 10.4% of net revenues. General and administrative expenses increased 81.1% year over year to RMB216.4 million, accounting for 15.6% of net revenues.

  • The notable increase was attributable to our proactive talent acquisition efforts to support the expansion of our product portfolio. Including on boarding industry professionals with extensive experience and strong management capabilities. As well as certain one-time expenses associated with business adjustments. Loss from operations was RMB139.3 million, narrowing by 20.6% year over year.

  • Operating margin improved by 13.9% points year over year to negative 10.7%. Non-gap loss from operations was RMB137 million and no GAAP op margin was 9.9%. The loss was RMB135.8 million and that income margin was 9.8%. Non-gap net loss was RMB123.5 million and no GAAP net income margin was 8.9%. Net operating inflow was RMB783.6 million.

  • Now turning to our balance sheet. As of December 31, 2024, we held RMB1.3 billion in cash equivalents, and restricted cash along with RMB1.8 billion in short-term investments and RMB922.7 million in long-term investments. This comes to a total of RMB4.1 billion. As of December 31st, 2024, our deferred revenue balance was approximately RMB2.1 billion.

  • Primarily consisting of tuition received in advance. As of the most recent trading day, we repurchased an aggregate of approximately RMB16.3 million ADS on the open market for approximately RMB3,150 million under the existing share repurchase program.

  • We will accelerate the execution of shared buybacks in the forthcoming open window in accordance with the board of directors guidance to create long-term value for our shareholders.

  • Before I provide our business outlook for the next quarter, please allow me to remind everyone that this contains overlooking statements which involve risks and uncertainties beyond our control and could cause the actual results to differ materially from our predictions. Based on our current estimates, total net revenues for the first quarter of 2025 are expected to be between RMB1,408 million and RMB1,428 million, representing an increase of 48.7% to 50.8% on a year-on-year basis. This concludes my prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready for the QE section. Thank you everyone for listening.

  • Operator

  • We will now begin the question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions), The first question comes from. Elsie Shun with CL SA. Please go ahead.

  • Elsie Sheng - Analyst

  • Thank you for taking my question and hello Larry, Shannon and Kathleen. So my question is mainly on the guidance. You provided a strong growth, venue growth in the first quarter. Could you also elaborate more on the margin outlook and also the guidance for 2025 for year? Thank you.

  • Shannon Shen - Chief Financial Officer

  • Okay. Welcome, Elsie, and thanks for your question. So, during our last earnings call, we shared our expectations for the overall financial performance in 2024. So, looking at a full year, last year, we achieved RMB5.6 billion in gross billings and RMB4.55 billion in revenue, in Q4 alone, our gross billings already exceeded RMB2.16 billion. Contributing around 39% of the year's total. At the same time, our student enrolment actually hit a record high after the new initiatives. So given the relatively fast growth targets for 2024, we gathered extensive student data and feedback on our products.

  • Which provided a more clear direction for enhancing our product quality. This also laid a solid foundation for our data accumulation and experience optimization in our AI era. So also through all the faster growth process, our team has undergone significant development with improvements in capabilities. A cohort of outstanding leaders has merged those who excel in teaching quality, particular services, and operational excellence. These are all the most valuable assets and achievements for our organization in the year of 2024.

  • So looking ahead to 2025, we will place greater emphasis on enhancing the inspiration and engagement in student learning, optimizing our user experience, and ensure the scientific solution of our comprehensive learning. Well, at the same time, our operation will be more focused on a more efficiency-driven approach.

  • On one hand, as our business continues to expand, we want to further strengthen and refine our top teaching talents. And on the other hand, we have already embedded AI into basically all aspects of our operations from content creation, data feedback, and teaching support in like real-time Q&A section as well as internal [projectization], etc.

  • We've been working closely with major AI large scale models to optimize all the above-mentioned processes. As a result, we are highly confident in achieving greater operational efficiency and enhancing profitability in 2025.

  • So, leveraging the momentum of strong growth in the Q4 in 2024, we anticipate achieving profitability at the net profit level in Q1 2025 while maintaining the fast revenue growth momentum. Thanks, Elsie. Hope that addresses your question.

  • Elsie Sheng - Analyst

  • Yes, it's very clear. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from Crystal Li with China Merchants Securities. Please go ahead.

  • Crystal Li - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you. Thanks for taking my questions and congratulations on your strong results. I just have one question on AI. Given the rapid, development in AI, how integrating AI into your core operations and what measurable improvements have you seen in your business. Thank you.

  • Shannon Shen - Chief Financial Officer

  • Thanks, Crystal, for your question. AI is a really hot topic right now and it's become more popular after DeepSeek launched their R1 model. So, AI is reshaping education in multiple ways, including personalized learning, automated assessment, intelligent tutoring, and enhanced operational efficiencies. So, for us it's both an opportunity and a challenge requiring a strategic approach to integration. AI can also provide personalized learning paths for each student by analysing their data dynamically adjusting content based on the students' learning progress, their interest, and even their weakness. AI-driven adaptive learning platforms will significantly enhancing learning efficiency, and it can solve the problem that all the educators have been dreaming for thousands of years that we can provide a more adaptive learning. Content to each of the individual. So, and at the same time, AI can automatically generate educational content such as exercises, course outlines, and even video lectures and continuously optimize them based on student feedback and the cost of producing those educational content will decrease significantly. Update cycles will shorten, and content quality will improve through AI-driven optimization.

  • Right after this earnings call, we just received a message saying [DeepSeek] that they further reduced their cost and AI will handle more repetitive and fundamental teaching tasks, freeing teachers to focusing on individual students. Needs and fostering creative thinking. AI should argument not replace educators, especially that AI for efficiency while maintaining human integration, sorry, interactions for creativity and emotional intelligence.

  • AI technology will profoundly reshape the education product in the medium and long term, driving innovations and personalized learning, intelligent tutoring and content generation and data analytics. So we would actively embrace these changes, invest in AI research and applications, especially for the scientific learning solutions and address data privacy and ethics concerns to ensure that these technologies can serve the long-term interest of education.

  • And through continuous innovation and optimization, we maintain a competitive edge in the market and provide students with more efficient, actable and personalized learning experience. And our investment in AI will focus on applications and solutions aiming to provide our students and parents with the learning journeys that the students really enjoy, and the parents can trust and that also carry warmth and inspirations. Let's build upon our deep understanding of education products and our insights into the education system. And our investment will also be flexible, adapted, and adjusted in response to the development and evolution of the AI technology.

  • And also, as I just mentioned in my prepared remarks, we actually have embedded AI. Into basically all aspects of our operations. We already started to leverage the power of AI to improve our learning contact and basically like all the operating processes and hopefully in the near future we can develop a really innovative and really the student can really like the learning product that we provided to them. That's crystal.

  • Operator

  • Thanks. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Catherine Chen for any closing remarks.

  • Catherine Chen - Head of Investor Relations

  • Thank you, operator, and thank you everyone for joining the call today. If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to contact our, investor relations department or our management via email at ir@gaotu.cn directly. You are also welcome to subscribe to our news alert on the company's IR website. Thank you very much again for your time. Have a great night.

  • Operator

  • The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.