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  • Operator

  • Good morning, and welcome ladies and gentlemen to the Gulf Island Fabrication Incorporated 2011 fourth quarter earnings release conference call. (Operator Instructions). At this time I'd like to turn the conference over to Ms. Deborah Knoblock for opening remarks and introductions. Deborah, please go ahead.

  • Deborah Kern-Knoblock - IR

  • I would like to welcome everyone to Gulf Island Fabrication's 2011 fourth quarter teleconference. Please keep in mind that any statements made in this conference that are not statements of historical fact are considered forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the results predicted in the forward-looking statements.

  • These factors include the timing and extent of changes in the prices of crude oil and natural gas, the timing of new projects and the Company's ability to obtain them and other details that are described under cautionary statements concerning forward-looking information and elsewhere in the Company's 10-K filed February 28, 2011. The 10-K was included as part of the Company's 2010 annual report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission earlier this year. The Company assumes no obligations to update these forward-looking statements.

  • Today we have Mr. Kerry Chauvin, Chairman and CEO; Mr. Kirk Meche, President and COO and Mr. Roy Buddy Breerwood, our interim CFO. Buddy?

  • Roy Breerwood - Interim CFO

  • Thank you, Deborah. I would like to review Gulf Island's press release issued for the fourth quarter of 2011. The press release consists of two pages. Page one is text and page two is an income statement. I would like to review page two, which is the income statement, first. The following are the results of operations for the three months ended December 31, 2011 compared to the three months ended December 31, 2010.

  • Revenue was $88.4 million compared to $43.0 million. The cost of revenue was $83.2 million compared to $40.8 million. Gross margin was $5.2 million, or 5.9% of revenue, compared to $2.2 million, or 5.1% of revenue. The increase in revenue for the quarter is mainly contributed to the increase in pass-through costs and the increase in man-hours worked. The increase in man-hours worked also contributed to the increase in gross margins. Although gross margin increased by comparison, we experienced some delays in our production hours at our Texas facility due to delayed drawings on one of our large projects while still incurring staffing costs and facility maintenance costs in preparation of both our facilities and staffing levels to accommodate our large increase in awards.

  • General and administrative expenses were $2.4 million, or 2.7% of revenue, compared to $1.9 million, or 4.4% of revenue.

  • Operating income was $2.9 million compared to $300,000.

  • We had net interest income of $455,000 for the three months ended December 31, 2011 compared to net interest income of $2.7 million for the three months ended December 31, 2010. The net interest income for the period ended December 31, 2011 is related to the financing agreement with one of our customers regarding the collection of an $11 million [retainage] balance on a completed contract. Whereas, the period ended December 31, 2010 is related to the financing arrangement we had with ATP on the fabrication of the MinDOC hull. On November 29, 2010 our financing arrangement with ATP was completely settled following the sale of our limited overriding royalty interest.

  • Other income or expense was an $8,000 loss resulting from the sales of miscellaneous equipment in 2000 and the period of 2011. The loss of $40,000 from last year was also from the sale of miscellaneous equipment.

  • Income before taxes was $3.33 million compared to $3.0 million. Income tax expense was $1.5 million compared to $1.3 million. The income tax rates were 46.6% compared to 43.1%. The income tax expense rate increased because of the decrease in our federal qualified production activities deductions in 2011 and also an increase in our Louisiana State income tax apportionment in 2011 as compared to 2010.

  • Net income was $1.8 million compared to $1.7 million. Basic and diluted earnings per share were $0.12 for both periods.

  • Weighted average and adjusted weighted shares outstanding were 14.4 million shares for the period ended December 31, 2011. Weighted average shares outstanding were 14.3 million shares and adjusted weighted average shares outstanding were 14.4 million shares for the period ended December 31, 2010.

  • Depreciation expense was $5.5 million compared to $4.9 million. We declared and paid cash dividends of $0.06 per share during the quarter ended December 31, 2011 compared to $0.01 per share during the quarter ended December 31, 2010.

  • The following are the results of operations for the 12 months ended December 31, 2011 compared to December 31, 2010. Revenue was $307.8 million compared to $248.3 million. The cost of revenue was $303.3 million compared to $225 million. Gross margin was $4.5 million, or 1.5% of revenue, compared to a gross margin of $23.3 million, or 9.4% of revenue. Included in our 2011 gross margin was the $7.7 million pre-tax charge in the first quarter related to the impairment of an insurance claim.

  • Also we experienced some delays in our production hours at our Texas facility due to delayed drawings on one of our large projects while still incurring staffing costs and facility maintenance costs in preparation of both our facilities and staffing levels to accommodate our large increase in awards.

  • General and administrative expenses were $8.2 million, or 2.7% of revenue, compared to $7.9 million or 3.2% of revenue. Operating loss was $3.7 million compared to operating income of $15.3 million.

  • We had net interest income of $902,000 compared to net interest income of $5 million. Again, the 2011 net interest income is related to the financing agreement with one of our customers regarding the collection of an $11 million retainage balance on a completed contract. Whereas 2010 is related to a financing arrangement we had with ATP on the fabrication of the MinDOC hull. On November 29, 2010 our financing arrangement with ATP was completely settled following the sale of our limited overriding royalty interest.

  • Other income or expense was $309,000 gain in 2011 resulting from the sale of miscellaneous equipment compared to $1 million in 2010 from the settlement of claims relating to damages incurred in connection with the hurricanes of 2008.

  • Loss before taxes was $2.4 million compared to income before taxes of $21.4 million. Income tax was a benefit of $644,000 compared to an income tax expense of $8.3 million. The income tax rates were a benefit of 26.3% for 2011 compared to an expense of 38.7% for 2010. The income tax benefit rate decreased in the current year because of the decrease in our federal qualified production activities deduction in 2011 and an increase in our Louisiana State income tax apportion in 2011 as compared to 2010.

  • Net loss was $1.8 million compared to net income of $13.1 million. Basic and diluted loss per share was $0.13 compared to basic and diluted earnings per share of $0.90. Weighted average shares and adjusted weighted average shares outstanding were 14.4 million shares for 2011 compared to 14.3 million shares for 2010.

  • Depreciation expense was $20.7 million compared to depreciation expense of $19.3 million.

  • We declared and paid cash dividends of $0.24 per share for the 12 months ended December 31, 2011. And $0.04 for the 12 months ended December 31, 2010. Please refer to page one of the press release for a review.

  • We had a revenue backlog of $614.5 million with a labor backlog of 4.6 million man-hours remaining to work at December 31, 2011 as compared to revenue backlog of $486.1 million with a labor backlog of 3.8 million man-hours remaining to work at December 31, 2010.

  • The following represents selected balance sheet information for December 31, 2011 compared to December 31, 2010. Cash and cash equivalence were $55.3 million compared to $88.1 million. Total current assets were $177.9 million compared to $130.6 million. Property, plant and equipment net of depreciation was $216.7 million compared to $197.7 million. Total assets were $395.9 million compared to $334.9 million.

  • Total current liabilities were $76 million compared to $18.5 million. Long-term debt was zero for both periods. Shareholders' equity was $282.8 million compared to $287.2 million. And total liabilities and shareholders' equity was $395.9 million compared to $334.9 million.

  • Other financial information for the three months ended December 31, 2011 compared to December 31, 2010 consists of; pass-through costs were 42.0% of revenue compared to 30.8% of revenue, man-hours worked were 832,000 compared to 443,000, deep water revenue represented 59% of revenue compared to 3% of revenue, foreign revenue represented 16% of revenue compared to 13% of revenue.

  • Other financial information for the 12 months ended December 31, 2011 compared to December 31, 2010 consists of; pass-through costs were 45.3% of revenue compared to 36.1% of revenue, man-hours worked were 2.7 million compared to 2.4 million, deep water revenue represented 40% of revenue compared to 7% of revenue, foreign revenue represented 16% of revenue compared to 3% of revenue.

  • Other financial information for December 31, 2011 compared to December 31, 2010 consists of; revenue backlog was $614.5 million compared to $486.1 million, remaining man-hours to work was 4.6 million compared to 3.8 million, revenue backlog for deep water was $509.8 million, or 83%, compared to $343.4 million, or 70.6%. Of the backlog at December 31, 2011 we expect to recognize revenues of approximately $537.2 million not including any change orders, scope of growth or new contracts that may be awarded during 2012, and approximately $77.3 million of backlog is expected to be recognized as revenue in 2013.

  • We had approximately 1,950 employees and 90 contract employees compared to 1,250 employees and 10 contract employees.

  • CapEx for the 12 months of 2011 was $41.5 million. Approximately $36 million of expenditures are planned for 2012 which consists of approximately $14 million for the purchase of equipment and $22 million for additional yard and facility infrastructure improvements.

  • We are approaching our desired employment levels at our Texas facility, and although we experienced delays in receiving some drawings on one of our large projects, production hours increased in the fourth quarter of 2011. We expect to further increase in production in the beginning of 2012 as additional workforce is added and drawings are received. We still have large amounts of material to purchase which will keep pass-through costs relatively high. I would now like to open the call to questions of analysts.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Our first question comes from Martin Malloy with Johnson Rice.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Good morning, Marty.

  • Martin Malloy - Analyst

  • Good morning. Could you talk a little bit more about the timing of the ramp up and receipt of the receipt of the designs that you need to move forward thus far in the first quarter? Can you give us any help in terms of how this might ramp up in the first half of this year?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Sure, Marty. This is Kerry. Look, we have received as of probably the last couple of weeks the bulk of the drawings that we need. So we're in pretty good shape now. We're waiting on some material to come in at this point in time. Employment levels, as of Monday, of course, we've ramped up to about 2,240 employees and we have 114 contractors which gives us a total workforce of about 2,354, if you count the contractors. So now this is as of Monday.

  • So we've been ramping up for January and all through February. We'll see it taper off in that in the next two or three weeks and we'll try and maintain our employment levels somewhere between this 2,240 and upwards of maybe getting into about 2,350 workers, or employees. So we will try and maintain that at that point in time.

  • But basically the bulk of the drawings are in. Still a few material drays because the drawings were so late. But other than that we should be working pretty much at full capacity starting in March.

  • Martin Malloy - Analyst

  • Okay. And then as far as future bidding opportunities for deep water top sides for the Gulf of Mexico, could you talk about the timing and maybe number of potential bidding opportunities there are out there?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Sure, Marty. Basically we see probably two deep water projects to be bid in the second half of 2012. After that in 2013, there's probably an additional three that could be bid somewhere maybe in the first half of 2013.

  • Of course, this could slide to the right depending on our clients and their drilling activity at this point in time. But basically we see two.

  • Of course, in the beginning of 2013 we also see a substantial amount of modules, potentially, for the Alaska Slope. So we possibly could have some bids coming out on that.

  • And there are a couple of small shallow water projects that could develop too, within the next three or four months. That might be beneficial for us for the second half of 2012.

  • Martin Malloy - Analyst

  • Are you seeing any module opportunities for projects along the Gulf Coast? Chemical, petrochemical type projects?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Probably not, Marty. That has dried up. There was an over expansion of most of the refineries and some of the chemical plants, probably about two or three years ago. And I don't see a lot of that happening.

  • There is a new plant going up on the Mississippi river, however, a steel plant that we have a potential of bidding some modules and some construction work on site. But that is still premature on that. But we might see some of that coming about sometime in the next 90 to 120 days.

  • Martin Malloy - Analyst

  • Okay. Thank you.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Okay, Marty.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Matt Tucker with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

  • Matt Tucker - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Good morning, Matt.

  • Matt Tucker - Analyst

  • Just curious on the design delays. It sounded like on the third quarter call you felt pretty good about getting those delays in the near-term, and you expect it to burn about $99 million of your backlog in the fourth quarter at that point in time. Can you give us a little sense of what specifically changed following the third quarter call? And then could you compare your visibility or confidence in getting back on track today versus what you thought back then.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Sure. Basically we all thought we'd get these drawings in. But needless to say, there was more delays and so that pushed some of the work into 2012. Now most of the work that we thought we'd do in the fourth quarter will happen in 2012. So we're not as concerned about it. It did affect us in the fourth quarter. But going forward we think that we're in pretty good shape drawing wise.

  • A few little material discrepancies that we're looking at now. But that should correct itself sometimes in the first quarter, and we should be hitting on all cylinders going forward.

  • Matt Tucker - Analyst

  • Thanks. And then is there any possibility of recouping from your customer some of the increased staffing and facility maintenance costs that you incurred in the fourth quarter when you expected to be able to ramp up more on the project?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Well, we're negotiating that right now. So I can't give you very much information on that. But it certainly is something that we're under negotiations and discussions.

  • Matt Tucker - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks. And based on your comments about getting really back on track more in March, would it be safe to assume that these delays had some pact on the first quarter, but we should still expect some ramp up in the first quarter versus the fourth quarter?

  • Roy Breerwood - Interim CFO

  • That's correct.

  • Matt Tucker - Analyst

  • Thanks. And then just last question. Can you give us an update on the CFO transition or the search process right now?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Well, we are going to have a search for a new CFO. Of course, Buddy, who is here with us today, his name is certainly in the hat for that particular search, but the Board felt they wanted to go ahead and do a search. So we're going to move forward with that.

  • Of course, getting the 10-K and everything we have to do at year end, it was impractical to run the search prior to filing our 10-K. So we will start that process in the near future, and hopefully we'll have some resolution on that sometime within the next 30 days, or definitely the next 60 days.

  • Matt Tucker - Analyst

  • Thanks. I'll jump back in the queue.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Joe Gibney with Capital One.

  • Joseph Gibney - Analyst

  • Thanks, good morning.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Good morning, Joe.

  • Joseph Gibney - Analyst

  • Just a quick question on G&A as you guys ramp from roughly, 2,000 employees up to 2,300, 2,400 as you get on a full [blown] rate. How should we be thinking about G&A first half of the year? Perhaps it's a question for Buddy. Should we be ramping towards 2.5 per quarter, a little bit higher? Just trying to get a little granular there on your G&A expectations as you guys staff up here.

  • Roy Breerwood - Interim CFO

  • Well, G&A should remain relatively flat. Now there are costs associated with possibly increased earnings potential that could add to our G&A. But just by their nature, we're pretty ramped up as far as administrative and those costs go.

  • Joseph Gibney - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Joe, the main thing on our G&A that would cause it to fluctuate like Buddy said, is our executive bonus situation. Because we as executives get a very small percentage of the pre tax earnings of the Company. So that will be the fluctuation, but the basis for the G&A should stay the same. We don't expect to hire any more people in a G&A level.

  • We did experience some costs, however, in staffing up in the fourth quarter, but more to manufacturing level. When you bring new employees on the payroll there's additional expenses you have to go through whether it's pre-employment physicals, buying a lot of equipment and tooling to be able to more or less outfit these employees, as well as you have some downtime with these employees which is an overhead expense, which is basically going through orientation and training and things of that nature. So when we were staffing up and getting to this level, there was a considerable amount of expenses and concern with the staffing up that we didn't break out. But we should see a reduction in those types of expenses going forward.

  • Joseph Gibney - Analyst

  • All right. That's helpful. In terms of tax rate, I see some moving parts in fourth quarter, but still high 30% levels. A good run rate within our models?

  • Roy Breerwood - Interim CFO

  • I would say about 37%. We should reach closer to our normal tax apportionment between Texas and Louisiana once we're hitting on all cylinders.

  • Joseph Gibney - Analyst

  • Okay. Helpful. And last one for me. Kerry, anything new on the marine side? Anything relative to OSV hull work, tow boats? Any signs of that picking up at all?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Well, there's a lot of talk out there right now.

  • Joseph Gibney - Analyst

  • Indeed.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • A few contracts that were put out here early. And again like our philosophy is, we're going to wait until a little later in the cycle before we pick up too much work in that area.

  • But we are in discussions with several customers about supply boats and other types of vessels similar to that. So hopefully we could pick up some work, but again, I think that particular work will come around probably about the summertime is when we'd be looking at picking up that type of work.

  • Joseph Gibney - Analyst

  • All right. I Appreciate it. I'll turn it back.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Okay.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Jim Rollyson with Raymond James.

  • James Rollyson - Analyst

  • Good morning, Kerry.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Good morning, Jim.

  • James Rollyson - Analyst

  • Just a follow-up on Joe's last question. Do you normally think of the marine business, or you've told us in the past maybe, it's a $75 million to $100 million a year type of business. Is that something, recognizing it's seasonal as you just mentioned, is that something that's a fair thought for just modeling for this year?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • I'd say that's correct. We're probably going to be on the low end of that number, only because we may have to allocate some of the marine employees back to oil and gas projects to make sure we stay on schedule. We're going to attempt to at least get somewhere around the $75 million to $100 million range.

  • James Rollyson - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. And I think last quarter you said at the time you were expecting about $565 million of your backlog to run off in 2012. Obviously you've had some delays. What are you thinking about that now? And as you ramp up beginning in March, do you think you can pick up some of the slack from the delays, or is that number going to get pushed to the right a little bit?

  • Roy Breerwood - Interim CFO

  • No. A lot of the work pushed into 2012 will be performed in 2012 with some -- and this is Buddy -- with some of the revenues pushing into 2013 with some of those other projects that are just slated to start a little later, like early 2012.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Jim, we stated earlier that about $537 million of our backlog should run off in 2012. Not counting any change orders or additional work that we might pick up.

  • James Rollyson - Analyst

  • Right. And does that stuff getting pushed off into next year, mess you up at all on the ability to bid on these projects that you mentioned might come second half, or not really?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • No, not really. We'll be ready to go on these other projects. In fact, we do have some space available for us starting on some projects, probably around the third quarter of this year.

  • James Rollyson - Analyst

  • Very helpful. And last one, just thoughts on CapEx for 2012? Where are you spending it?

  • Roy Breerwood - Interim CFO

  • Oh let's see. Well, we broke down to about $14 million in equipment, $22 million in yard improvements. And we've got a little more detail in our 10-K which we're filing later on in the week.

  • James Rollyson - Analyst

  • All right. Great. Appreciate it.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Okay.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Our next question comes from Will Gabrielski with Lazard Capital Markets.

  • Will Gabrielski - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Good morning, Will.

  • Will Gabrielski - Analyst

  • Good morning. I was wondering if you could talk about the competitive landscape, now that there's a slight lull in bidding activity? But you have a bunch of competitors that are fairly full on capacity right now and utilization is probably going to be pretty high through 2012 and into 2013. If you are seeing any changes or anything that might impact the bidding as you move into those projects later this year?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • No, Will. I think everything is pretty much business as usual. Our competitors apparently have some work at this point in time. But I think we're all in about the same mode at this point in time. And we'll be looking for work to replace some of the work we're working off now.

  • Will Gabrielski - Analyst

  • Okay. And the same hold true for hiring specialty employees; welders, scaffolders? If you're looking at a stronger US maybe commercial and industrial or manufacturing mark that might utilize some of those people? Is there any change there?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Well, labor has still been very difficult to get, even with unemployment nationwide running at a relatively high rate. The unemployment in Louisiana, especially in our area, is very low, and we're having somewhat of a difficult time in Louisiana hiring additional personnel.

  • In Texas, however, the market is a little better for labor in Texas. But it's tightening up in Texas also as more people are going to work. But we've been very fortunate to get in the pre upswing cycle in employment and put quite a few people on the payrolls which really helped us out. But as far as getting additional employees, I think it's going to get harder and harder for us to be able do that as the overall economy improves.

  • Will Gabrielski - Analyst

  • Okay. If you were to see a handful of these US LNG export projects go forward, would there be a fair amount of modular fabrication work you could bid on for those types of projects?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Probably not for us. We'll pursue that. But I would think that it's not an area that we have a lot of expertise in, especially when you get into cryogenics and things of that nature.

  • So I think probably oil and gas, and modules for other areas such as Alaska, and possibly the tar sands of Canada are more likely for us at this point in time.

  • Will Gabrielski - Analyst

  • Okay. Maybe just a follow-up since you mentioned Canadian oil sands. What your view is there, and maybe just a history lesson on what you maybe have done in the past.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Well, we haven't done very much. But we are seeking, of course, some work from that area. But our history is pretty slim in that area. We have a better history in Alaska than we have in Canada.

  • Will Gabrielski - Analyst

  • All right. Great. Thank you so much.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Okay.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is a follow-up from Matt Tucker with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

  • Matt Tucker - Analyst

  • Hey, guys. Just wanted to follow-up on the bookings run rate. It's been close to $40 million the past couple of quarters. I think you've done a pretty good job for a while now indicating that your big opportunities this year are more second half weighted. But you made some comments about marine opportunities, some smaller projects. It sounds like it could hit in the first half. So just wondering should we be assuming the bookings stay down at this $40 million level, or do you think some of these smaller things could add up to a higher level in the first half?

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • No, I don't think it will affect us very much in the first half. I think what we're looking at is probably second half-type work. Because even if we got awarded it towards the end of the first half, by the time we got drawings and received drawings and receive material, most of the work would start somewhere probably towards the end of the third quarter.

  • Matt Tucker - Analyst

  • Thanks again. That's all I had.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • Okay.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). And it appears there are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the conference back to management for any additional or closing remarks.

  • Kerry Chauvin - Chairman, CEO

  • We just appreciate everybody calling in to the conference call. And we're going to close this call out, and we'll talk to everybody next quarter. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference. For a replay of today's call, it will be available February 28, today, at 12 PM Central Standard Time and run through March 13 at 12 PM Central Standard Time. And that number is 888-203-1112. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation.