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Good day, and welcome to the GEO Group Fourth Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Pablo Paez, Executive Vice President of Corporate Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for today's discussion of The GEO Group's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2017 Earnings Results.

With us today are George Zoley, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Brian Evans, Chief Financial Officer; Ann Schlarb, President of GEO Care; and David Donahue, President of GEO Corrections & Detention.

This morning, we will discuss our fourth quarter results and current business development activities. We will conclude the call with a question-and-answer session. This conference call is also being webcast live on our investor website at investors.geogroup.com.

Today, we will discuss non-GAAP basis information. A reconciliation from non-GAAP basis information to GAAP basis results is included in the press release and supplemental disclosure we issued this morning.

Additionally, much of the information we will discuss today, including the answers we give in response to your questions, may include forward-looking statements regarding our beliefs and current expectations with respect to various matters. These forward-looking statements are intended to fall within the safe harbor provisions of the securities laws. Our actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors contained in our Securities and Exchange Commission filings, including the Forms 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K reports.

With that, please allow me to turn this call over to our Chairman and CEO, George Zoley. George?

Thank you, Pablo, and good morning to everyone. We are pleased with our fourth quarter results by our diversified business units, which achieved several important operational milestones during the past year.

Our GEO Transport division transported more than 747,000 passengers while driving 19 million miles without any significant accidents or incidents. GEO Corrections & Detention processed over 500,000 combined admissions and released as well managing an average daily population of more than 60,000 individuals in the U.S. And GEO Care served approximately 620,000 individuals while managing an average daily census of 193,000 program participants. So on a daily basis, GEO serviced more than 250,000 individuals through our diversified programs and facilities.

This past year, we doubled our annual expenditure from $5 million to $10 million to expand our GEO Continuum of Care department. It is headed by the Executive Vice President overseeing more than a dozen subject matter experts in offender rehabilitation as well as an entire division with dedicated case managers who provide post-release support services.

We are pleased that our efforts in this important area of criminal justice reform have begun to attract national attention. This past month, I was honored to represent GEO at the American Correctional Association Winter Conference where our GEO Continuum of Care received the Innovation in Corrections Award. We're extremely proud of this important recognition, which was based on the implementation of our GEO Continuum of Care at the Graceville Correctional Facility in Florida.

Since 2015, the facility has completed 900,000 hours of programming, awarded more than 2,900 program completions and conducted approximately 8,400 individual cognitive behavioral sessions. The facility has also provided assistance to 617 post-release program participants with more than 400,000 in company funding being allocated for crucial community needs by those participants. These programs have also resulted in improved safety and security outcomes at the facility with a 42% reduction in grievances filed and a 45% reduction in major disciplinary reports.

Since the launching of this pilot program in 2015, we have now enrolled out of our Continuum of Care programs at 14 state correctional facilities and 1 federal correctional institution in the U.S. This past quarter, we also completed the development of the 1,300 bed Ravenhall Correctional Centre in Australia, which we believe will have the most comprehensive rehabilitation program in the world. We believe our GEO Continuum of Care programs are having a positive impact in the lives of more than 17,000 individuals in our care every day.

In line with these efforts, this past year, we've also completed the acquisition of Community Educational Centers, considered a leading provider of reentry and treatment services, for $360 million. This important transaction further diversified our real estate portfolio in earnings and positioned us to expand our delivery of tailored real estate management and programmatic solutions.

Today, we own or manage over 96,000 beds worldwide, making GEO the fifth largest unified correctional organization in the world. Looking forward to 2018, even though we expect some headwinds related to rising interest rates, we remain optimistic about our future and growth prospects.

Our core business remains stable, and we believe our dividend is supported by predictable operational cash flows that remains well within our guided payout ratio of 75% to 80% of AFFO.

We have issued our initial financial guidance for the year, which should provide assurance about the sustainability of our current dividend payout despite the expected interest rate headwind.

We're also currently pursuing several organic growth opportunities, which could represent upside to our initial guidance. While several of these potential growth catalysts have experienced some delays, partly due to the uncertainty surrounding the federal budget process, we remain optimistic about future prospects and are hopeful that these opportunities will materialize during 2018.

We also recognize that we can enhance our shareholders' value with the repurchase of our common shares at times when we believe our stock is undervalued. For this reason, our board has authorized a stock buyback program of up to $200 million. We expect to implement this program with an opportunistic strategy that maximizes the expected returns for our shareholders and balances our capital needs. We believe this share repurchase program could be as much as $0.16 per share accretive to the bottom line if fully implemented at approximately our current share price.

Finally, I'd like to say a word about our workforce. Every single day, more than 23,000 GEO employees make a difference in the lives of men and women entrusted in our care. Their dedication underscores our continued belief that as a company, we are at our best when we're helping those in our care reenter society as productive and employable citizens.

Now I'll ask CFO, Brian Evans, to review our results and guidance.

Thank you, George. Good morning to everyone. Today, we reported our fourth quarter GAAP earnings per share of $0.30 and AFFO per share of $0.67 on quarterly revenues of $569 million.

Our fourth quarter reflects better-than-expected results from our equity and earnings of affiliates, largely driven by a favorable tax settlement for our South African joint venture. While we had anticipated this benefit in our previously issued guidance, the effect of this item was $2 million to $3 million more than we had anticipated during the quarter.

Our fourth quarter results also reflect approximately $1 million in M&A related expenses and $9.6 million net charge related to the remeasurement of our net deferred tax assets as a result of the recently enacted Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which lowered the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% at the federal level. Excluding these items, we reported adjusted earnings per share of $0.38.

Compared to fourth quarter 2016, our fourth quarter 2017 results reflect several items, including the activation of the new ICE contract at our company-owned 780-bed Folkston, Georgia facility in January 2017; the issuance of 10.4 million shares of common stock on a post-split basis in March 2017; the refinancing of the term loan under our credit facility also in March 2017; and the acquisition of CEC, which closed in April 2017.

Moving to our outlook for 2018, we have issued our initial guidance for the full year and the first quarter of 2018. We expect our full year net income attributable to GEO to be in a range of $1.27 to $1.37 on a full year revenue of approximately $2.3 billion. We expect our full year AFFO to be in a range of $2.40 to $2.50 per diluted share.

Our full year guidance for 2018 reflects several factors. First, our guidance reflects a year-over-year increase of approximately $10 million in higher net interest expense domestically. More than 2/3 of this increase is directly related to the expected rise in interest rates, with the rest being attributable to higher overall average outstanding debt balances compared to 2017.

Our guidance also reflects revised pricing terms under the new 10-year contracts for our Big Spring Texas facilities, which as we previously disclosed began on December 1 of last year. As you may recall, those contracts were awarded under the Bureau of Prisons CAR 16 procurement, which was very competitive in nature since it restricted the ward to no more than 3,600 beds.

Our outlook does not presently assume the reactivation of our approximately 7,000 idle and underutilized beds, which could represent upside to our initial guidance.

Finally, our guidance does not reflect any share buybacks under the share repurchase program we announced this morning.

For the first quarter 2018, we expect total revenues to be in a range of $556 million to $561 million. Our first quarter 2018 net income attributable to GEO is expected to be in a range of $0.26 to $0.28 per diluted share. We expect AFFO for the first quarter 2018 to be between $0.55 and $0.57 per diluted share.

In addition to the items impacting our full year guidance, compared to our fourth quarter 2017 results, our first quarter 2018 guidance reflects $0.03 to $0.04 in additional employment tax expense as a result of normal seasonality in unemployment taxes, which are front-loaded in the first quarter of the year.

Looking at our liquidity position. We have approximately $560 million in available capacity under revolving credit facility in addition to an accordion feature of $450 million under the credit facility.

In terms of our uses of cash, our growth CapEx is expected to be approximately $103 million in 2018. We also have approximately $10 million in scheduled annual principal payments of debt.

Earlier this month, our board declared a quarterly cash dividend of $0.47 per share or $1.88 per share annualized. Our dividend payment is well within our guided payout range of 75% to 80% of AFFO, and we believe it is supported by predictable operational cash flows.

As we disclosed earlier this year, our dividend payments for 2017 received more favorable tax treatment for our shareholders than in prior years, and we expect the more favorable treatment for our dividend payments to continue in '18 and future years.

Finally, as George mentioned, we recognize that we can enhance value for our shareholders by buying back our stock at times when we believe our share price is undervalued. This morning, we announced that our board has authorized a stock buyback program of up to $200 million. We expect to implement this program opportunistically to maximize the returns for our shareholders and to balance our need for capital to pursue growth opportunities.

At this time, I'll turn the call to David Donohue for a review of our GEO Corrections & Detention segment.

Thanks, Brian, and good morning, everyone. Our GEO Corrections & Detention business unit achieved several important operational milestones during 2017.

Our combined GEO facilities achieved operational excellence with the successful completion of more than 50 audits by entities such as the American Correctional Association or ACA, the National Commission on Correctional Health Care and several other entities.

During the year, 25 of our facilities company-wide received accreditation from ACA, with an average accreditation score in excess of 99.8%. And 18 of these facilities received a perfect accreditation score of 100%.

Looking at our state segment, our 8 state correctional customers have stable budgets, and our facilities have been able to provide high-quality services without being impacted by budgetary constraints. Across these 8 state customers, we have been expanding the delivery of our GEO Continuum of Care programs, which have now been launched at 14 GEO state correctional facilities. We are excited about the opportunity to expand our relationships within those states, and we also remain optimistic about the opportunity to partner with new states across the country.

Several states continue to face capacity constraints, and many of our state customers are facing challenges related to older prisons, which need to be replaced with new and more cost-efficient facilities. In the states where we operate, the average age of state prisons range from approximately 30 to 60 years. The state of Kansas recently awarded a contract for the development of a new 2,400-bed facility to replace the state's oldest prison facility. Similarly, the state of Wisconsin has discussed the potential development of a new facility to replace one of the state's oldest prison facilities located in the Green Bay area as well as other potential replacement facilities for some of the state's oldest prisons. And the state of Vermont is also exploring a privately developed and financed option for a new correctional facility with up to 1,000 beds.

In Idaho, the Department of Corrections has issued a solicitation for up to 1,000 out-of-state beds. Proposals were submitted earlier this month, and we expect an award decision during the second quarter.

The state of Idaho has also recently entered into an emergency contract with GEO for the ability to house up to 250 inmates at our company-owned Karnes correctional center in Texas in the immediate term.

Moving to our Federal segment. We have enjoyed a 3-decade long partnership with the Federal government, and we currently provide services for the BOP, ICE and U.S. Marshals Service.

In Texas, we are developing a new 1,000-bed ICE Processing Center in the Houston area under a new 10-year contract we were awarded by ICE last year. The new center is expected to cost approximately $120 million and will be completed in the fourth quarter of this year with expected annualized revenues of $44 million.

As it relates to new opportunities, the BOP has 2 pending procurements for the housing of criminal alien populations. Under the CAR 19 procurement, the BOP expects to award up to 9,500 beds at existing facilities. The proposals were submitted last July with an award decision expected in late 2018.

Under the CAR 18 solicitation, the BOP is rebidding the management contract for the government-owned, 2,355-bed Taft, California facility. We previously operated the facility for 10 years until 2007 and submitted our proposal last June to manage the facility under our new 10-year contract. An award decision is expected from the BOP by the middle of this year.

We are encouraged by a recent DoJ directive regarding increasing population levels in private correctional facilities in order to relieve overcrowding in BOP-operated facilities. GEO has 7,000 idle or underutilized beds and is well positioned to compete for future BOP opportunities.

Turning to ICE. 2017 was a transition year for the agency with a number of enforcement policy changes and a decline in border apprehensions during the first half of the year compared to 2016. During the second half of the year, crossings and apprehensions along the Southwest broader steadily increased and have currently normalized, consistent with historical levels.

ICE has a pending procurement for the management of their government-owned 700-bed Florence, Arizona processing center. Proposals were submitted last year. We are currently awaiting an award decision. ICE also has a solicitation for secure transportation services in the San Antonio, Texas area. Proposals were submitted last year with an expected award decision in the near future.

Last year, ICE also issued a request for information for facilities, which could be existing or new sites to be located in the Detroit, Chicago, St. Paul and Salt Lake City areas. On a combined basis, these facilities are expected to have up to 3,000 beds. We have submitted our proposed solutions and are awaiting additional guidance from ICE at this time.

We believe that the timing of these ICE opportunities have been delayed in part due to the uncertainty surrounded the federal budget and appropriations process. As you may be aware, the U.S. Congress has passed several short-term continuing resolutions this fiscal year starting last September.

Last week, the Congress approved the 2-year budget plan, which increases the overall spending caps for nondefense discretionary funding by $131 billion over fiscal years 2018 and '19.

While there is a positive step towards bringing budget certainty for all federal agencies, the U.S. Congress has not yet approved the individual department and agency appropriations bills required to fund the government through the balance of the fiscal year. Last week, in tandem with the 2-year budget agreement, the Congress also approved an additional short-term continuing resolution, which funds the federal government through March 23. As with prior versions, the continuing resolution provides funds consistent with the prior fiscal year spending levels for ICE, but does not yet provide any additional new funding for the agency.

As we've reported in the past, the House of Representatives had previously approved and appropriations markup for the Department of Homeland Security, which included funding for 44,000 detention beds and 1,600 additional ICE officers, agents and support staff. The previous house appropriations markup for the Department of Justice included an increase of approximately $82 million for the U.S. Marshals and an increase of $61 million for the BOP.

As Congress works toward approval of the appropriations bills that will fund the government for the balance of fiscal year 2018, which ends on September 30, earlier this week, the President released his budget request for the fiscal year 2019, which begins on October 1. The President's proposal -- proposed budget for fiscal year 2019 includes the funding request for ICE to support the hiring of 2,000 additional ICE law enforcement officers and 750 border patrol agents as well as a total of 52,000 detention beds, an increase of almost 13,000 beds over the funding levels under the current continuing resolution.

Moving to our international markets. We're pleased to have completed the development and activation of the 1,300 bed Ravenhall Correction Centre in Australia on November 1 last year. The $700 million project, inclusive of a $90 million investment by GEO, is expected to generate approximately $75 million in annual revenues based on the 1,000-bed occupancy level under a 25-year contract with Corrections Victoria. This important contract will provide for quarterly fixed payments for the operation of the facility plus a service-linked payment tied to the delivery of rehabilitation, reentry and recidivism reduction outcomes.

Growing inmate populations have created the need for additional capacity in other state jurisdictions in Australia. 2 of our facilities in New South Wales, the Junee and Parklea centers, are undertaking expansion projects totaling 680 and 650 beds respectively, which are expected to be completed later this year.

Finally, our joint U.K. venture submitted a proposal to the Scottish government for the provision of court custody and prisoner escort services, and we're awaiting the contract decision.

At this time, I'll turn the call over to Ann for a review of our GEO Care segment. Ann?

Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. GEO Care had a very active year, and we are pleased with the operational milestones achieved by our 4 divisions. Our GEO Reentry division completed the integration of the facilities and programs acquired from Community Education Center, CEC, and we have overall been pleased with the integration of our new CEC facilities.

We remain optimistic about our expanded reentry and treatment services platform following the acquisition of CEC. With this new expanded platform, we've already identified a number of new business opportunities and have submitted several proposals for residential and nonresidential programs. These new potential projects represent more than $50 million in incremental avenue annual revenue opportunity.

In terms of our Youth Services business, we continue to experience stable utilization rates across our facilities. Our Youth segment has been stable for the past couple of years after our team undertook a number of consolidation and marketing initiatives.

Moving to our BI electronic monitoring division, the utilization of our ISAP contract with ICE remained stable throughout 2017 after increasing rapidly in the preceding year. We expect the utilization of the program to remain stable in 2018. At the state and local level, BI continues to pursue a number of new business opportunities.

Finally, we remain very excited about our GEO Continuum of Care programs. Our GEO Continuum of Care division oversees the integration of our industry-leading, evidence-based rehabilitation programs with post-release support services. We have now implemented these enhanced programs in 14 state correctional facilities operated by GEO and also in our Rivers Correctional Institution, which houses Washington, D.C. individuals on behalf of the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

On a combined basis, these facilities have completed over 11.7 million hours of Continuum of Care programming over the last 2 years. Our academic programs have averaged close to 12,000 daily participants and have awarded close to 4,500 high school equivalency degrees in that time period. The average daily attendance for our vocational courses totaled more than 24,000 participants, leading to more than 15,000 vocational training completions. And almost 4,000 individuals attended substance abuse treatment on a daily basis with more than 16,000 participants completing their substance abuse programs during that time span.

We have also provided post-release support services to more than 1,200 individuals returning to their communities in the last few years. And we believe we are already starting to see meaningful results and improved outcomes and reduced recidivism. We believe these remarkable achievements are making a difference in the lives of the men and women who have been entrusted to our care.

As George mentioned, we are incredibly proud to have recently received the Innovation in Corrections Award from the American Correctional Association for the implementation of our GEO Continuum of Care at the Graceville Correctional Facility in Florida, which was our pilot program. This prestigious award underscores our industry-leading position in the development and implementation of evidence-based rehabilitation practices and recidivism reduction programs. We believe that our focus on improved rehabilitation and community reentry programs is in line with criminal justice and prison reform efforts being undertaken by government agencies to invest in meaningful rehabilitation and recidivism reduction. We expect our efforts to drive future growth opportunities across our diversified services.

At this time, I'll turn the call back to George for his closing remarks.

Thank you, Ann. We are pleased with our financial performance during the year and the important operational milestones achieved across our diversified business units.

Despite some headwinds associated with a rising interest rate environment, we believe our core operational cash flows remain stable and predictable. Our management team is focused on capturing new growth, and we remain optimistic about the demand for our services. We continue to carefully evaluate our capital allocation to create sustainable, long-term value for our shareholders.

We recognize that we can enhance shareholder value by opportunistically repurchasing our shares. And to that end, our board has authorized a $200 million stock buyback program.

We are proud of the continued success of our company. I'd like to thank all of our employees worldwide. Their dedication and professionalism are unmatched and have allowed GEO to become the fifth largest corrections organization in the world and to be recognized by our customers as best-in-class.

We look forward to furthering our commitment to better the lives of those entrusted to us through our GEO Continuum of Care. We believe strongly that we are at our best when helping those in our care return into society as productive, employable citizens.

We're now we are happy to open the call to your questions.

(Operator Instructions) And our first question will come from Kevin McVeigh of Deutsche.

Helpful as always. George or Brian, obviously, it seems like there is a lot of optimism at the federal level, but still trying to get caught up in the budget process. Is there any way to think about those 7,000 beds, what the probability would be when some of those start to come online? George, just anyway, as you think about kind of 2018 -- I know we don't have any of that in the guidance. But is there anyway the probability what some of those beds coming online would look like as we think about the year?

A good portion of them could come online, I believe, in the second quarter, given that 2 of the facilities, 1 BOP and 1 ICE, are presently operational facilities and would merely involve the transition to new management. And all of that could take place in the second quarter. And I think the comment on our ICE facility, that could be completed and opened, I think, in our third quarter, not the fourth quarter.

Got it. And then just in terms of the buyback, obviously, the stock is undervalued. Any thoughts on -- is there a certain -- I mean, the stock even at current levels looks pretty compelling. Any thoughts on -- I know we don't have any of that in our guidance. But just how should we think about that over the course of the year?

Well, I think other than what we said, we'll look at share pricing where we think it's undervalued, we will make some opportunistic repurchases. So there's a reasonable chance that, that may occur in the near to mid-term.

It's helpful, Brian. And then just real quick, the interest expense, it sounds like 2/3 was rates, 1/3 higher average balance. Is that -- what are the higher kind of average balances coming on?

Well, I think during 2018 compared to 2017, you have obviously debt related to the CEC acquisition that's now going to be outstanding for the full year. We've got borrowing to fund the growth of the -- or the completion of the Ravenhall -- not the Ravenhall, but the ICE facility in Texas and some other miscellaneous smaller projects, but that's the bulk of it. So I think it's just an extra quarter of having the CEC-related acquisition debt outstanding and then the construction primarily related to that facility in Texas.

The next question comes from Tobey Sommer of SunTrust.

Could you comment on what you're seeing in terms of ICE detainee populations? And then what your assumption is for the balance of the year in your guidance?

Well, I think we said that last year was a transitional year where there was actually a decline in the census population because of the reduction in border crossings. But in the first half of the year, that steadily increased in the second half. And today, we're, I believe, higher than we normally are at this time of the year. And we expect that to continue to not increase for the balance of the year.

Okay. You mentioned that as early as 2Q, perhaps some of your idle and underutilized beds could become more productive.

Well, I meant to -- I think I said that some of the contracts we were referencing could be awarded in the second quarter, and some of them are active operations presently and merely require the assumption of new management, which could take place in the second quarter. As far as CAR 19, for example, that wouldn't be awarded till later on 2018.

Would the ICE RFI that's out there in the funding request for increased beds and border patrol agents, et cetera, do you think that the -- this RFI can bring to a formal RFP and that lengthy process is likely? Or in intergovernmental service agreements, probably a more likely mechanism for that to proceed forward?

I think, on those, it would be RFP process on those particular locations. But additionally, ICE is still interested in building up its capacity and could enter into such agreements on an intergovernmental basis.

So for locations apart from those?

Aside from those 3.

Okay. With respect to what you mentioned about Idaho in kind of emergency contract in the Karnes facility, when would the intake of inmates begin? And what's the bottom line impact in '18 of that?

Tobey, this is Dave. So we've already begun the receipt of additional Idaho residents, if you will, at our Karnes facility. So that intake process is underway.

This week.

Okay. And what is the financial impact of that?

It's 250 beds. So it's probably an average per diem rate. I don't know if we disclosed the amount of revenue associated with that. And it's only a 4-month contract, but it has the ability to be extended month-to-month. And that's essentially gave them some time as they roll through this RFP process and a 1,000-bed procurement.

Can the facility be profitable at that level? Or is it a drag, at least initially, at the 250 beds...

This is a facility that the Karnes Correctional Center already has some U.S. Marshals in there. So it's a little bit underutilized. So we're making use of incremental capacity at that facility.

Understood. And -- let me see. Do you have any plans to adjust the floating versus fixed proportion of your debt? How do you think about that at this point?

We'll continue to monitor the interest rate environment and the forward curve and look at the swap rates. But at this time, we're not looking to make any changes.

And last question from me and I'll get back in the queue. What does the M&A pipeline look like? The company was able to consummate something in the early part of last year. And just curious if there's ongoing opportunity?

We're always looking at things. But we acquired CEC last year, and that was a fairly significant acquisition. I don't think we're looking at anything of that magnitude at this time, but certainly some smaller ones.

And next, we have a question from Mark Strouse of JPMorgan.

Most of our questions have been asked. But just wanted to ask about the ISAP contract. So I think you mentioned that you expect that to be stable during 2018. But can you share what you know about the ISAP 4 contract, when that could potentially be awarded? And is that an opportunity for potentially (inaudible) to that program?

The ISAP 4 contract will be rebid late 2018, early 2019. And we have not yet heard from the government what that might look like. And so we'll be watching that closely.

And then how should we think about just kind of at a high level the decision to announce this buyback versus potentially paying down some of the floating rate debt?

Well, on a cash flow basis, it actually improves the cash flows, given that the dividend is approximately 9% to 10% and our floating rate debt is at about 3.5% to 4% right now. So even with the projected increases in interest rates, I think it's still cash flow beneficial to the company at the current prices. And that's obviously something that we'll take into consideration as we look at when to opportunistically make repurchases.

Okay. And then just lastly, are there any limitations on buyback? Is there a window period that you have to get through here, should investors maybe assume that these can begin immediately?

Just our normal corporate window. Unless there is a plan put in place, which we haven't done, and we don't currently plan to do, it would be whenever our windows open, which -- our window reopens 48 hours or 2 days after our press release.

(Operator Instructions) And our next question will come from Kevin McClure of Wells Fargo.

This is for Brian. You guys have the buyback program now. You're optimistic about some of the opportunities with federal government. So I'm curious, what's your appetite for additional greenfield development, and how high would you be willing to take leverage in order to fund those projects?

Well, we still have the ATM if we need to fund projects with that. We have plenty of capacity on the revolver. So we can easily handle another greenfield site of $100 million, I think. And as we said, we'll balance the stock repurchases with our other capital needs and capital outlays. Obviously, growth I think is the best use of that capital. So that's going to be the first choice.

Got it. Okay. And then following up on that, what would cause you to tap the accordion on your loan versus issuing bonds or putting the excess cash or the cash needs on your line? That's it from me.

I don't know that we have any plans to tap the accordion. I think it's just a feature that's there that's maybe a little bit easier to access than bonds or redoing the credit facility. So no specific intent to use it right now.

And the next question comes from Andrew Berg of Post Advisory Group.

Just going back on stock repurchase. You note in the press release, you've got $120 million of availability under the revolver to make repurchases. I believe the bonds don't have any significant restricted payment issues. Is there anything under the term loan that would further restrict your ability to repurchase stock? Or what is the amount you're allowed to do under that term loan agreement? I just don't recall.

Well, the term loan is part of the credit facility. So debt covenants are the same. So there's no differences.

Right. So the term loan and revolver cap you at the $120 million currently?

Those are consistent.

And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to George Zoley for any closing remarks.

Well, thanks to everyone for joining us today. We look forward to addressing you in the next quarterly conference call.

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.