Gaia Inc (GAIA) 2021 Q3 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss Gaia, Inc.'s financial results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2021. Joining us today is Gaia's CFO and Office of President, Mr. Paul Tarell. (Operator Instructions) Before we get started, however, I would like to take a minute and read the safe harbor language.

  • The following constitutes the safe harbor statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The matters discussed today include forward-looking statements that involve numerous assumptions, risks and uncertainties. These include, but are not limited to, general business conditions, historical losses, competition, changing consumer preferences, subscriber costs and retention rates, acquisitions and other risks and uncertainties detailed from time to time in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our reports on Form 10-K and Form 10-Q. Gaia assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements. With that, I would like to now turn the call over to Gaia's CFO and Office of President, Paul Tarell. Please go ahead.

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Thank you, Cody, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm stepping in for Jirka today as he is currently at home battling a stomach bug.

  • Revenues are up 22% year-to-date with third quarter revenues up to $20.4 million and gross margin steady at 87.1%. We ended the quarter with 790,500 paying members, which we believe to be a solid result when considering Q3 last year reflected the heart of the pandemic. Total member acquisition costs during the quarter were $7.8 million or 39% of revenues.

  • As we've noted on prior earnings calls, the digital advertising market continues to be crowded and competitive. While the recent trend in CPA is elevated from the levels we saw during the initial COVID period in 2020, it is still favorable compared to our historical trends.

  • We are continuing to execute on our strategic plan to reduce dependency on paid media to drive member growth with a concerted focus on scaling our ambassador program globally. Despite the challenging paid media market, we were able to drive over 20,000 net adds during the quarter while staying within our overall target spend level. This was primarily the result of improvements in our overall retention as our member base continues to season.

  • Selling and operating expenses, excluding marketing and member acquisition costs in the third quarter were $7.7 million or 38% of revenues. Corporate and G&A expenses in the quarter were $1.5 million or 7% of revenues. For the 9 months ended September 30, 2021, we improved total operating expenses to 84% of revenues compared to 98% of revenues in the year ago period. The current year reflects the stabilization of our cost structure since turning profitable in the third quarter of 2020.

  • EBITDA improved to $4 million or 20% of revenues in the quarter from $3.4 million or 19% of revenues in the year ago quarter. This marks our sixth consecutive quarter of generating positive EBITDA. Year-to-date, we've generated $11.5 million of EBITDA compared to $3.9 million in the prior year. The current year results reflect a flow-through of 72% of the incremental revenues generated during 2021 to the EBITDA line compared to 2020. We generated net income of $0.6 million or $0.03 per share during the third quarter of 2021 compared to $0.2 million or $0.01 per share in the year ago period, which excludes the $6.1 million gain we recorded in the prior year quarter related to the sale of a portion of our corporate campus.

  • Year-to-date, we have generated $1.6 million of net income or $0.08 per share. Cash flow from operations increased to $5.1 million during the quarter, an improvement of $1.8 million from Q3 2020 and our eighth consecutive quarter of generating positive cash flows from operations.

  • We increased our content investment during the year as planned while also increasing our overall cash balance to $14.4 million. We continue to see 80-plus percent of our monthly viewership on our original programming. With our end-to-end content production fully in-house, we continue to focus on investing in our content library at a cost per hour that allows us to recoup our initial cash investment quickly.

  • In addition to this quick recovery of our initial investment, we also benefit from the long-tail viewership of our content to improve the overall return on our content investment. We held successful live events at the Gaia Sphere, our state-of-the-art event center, in September and October with sold-out crowds, which allowed us to promote our premium Events+ $299 annual subscription to those that couldn't attend in person. Events+ is the rebranded name for what we previously called our Live Access annual plan. The early results of our focus on promoting Events+ to our existing members has been positive.

  • With that, I would like to open up the call for questions. Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) We'll take our first question from Eric Wold with B. Riley Securities.

  • Eric Christian Wold - Senior Equity Analyst

  • So a couple of questions. I guess, one, obviously, you talked about the digital ad market continuing to be tough and competitive. Maybe just additional thoughts on how you've adapted your spending around that. Is it a function of being more efficient, looking for better ways to do the same spending? Or you actually cut back on the spending a little bit to watch how the market plays out?

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • I think we're not purposely cutting back on the spend to see how the market plays out. We're definitely being opportunistic as we see pockets of volatility that we can take advantage of. The paid media market works very similarly to the stock market. And so with the supply and demand, as it ebbs and flows through the weeks and the months and the quarters, we're poised to act. But when it starts to get above our thresholds, we pull back by design. So I think it's a combination of both.

  • And as we've seen this upward pressure in the CPMs, which is the cost of the media, we've been focusing on improving our conversion rates from guest to member, which helps us bring down our calculated CPA. But we've also been focusing on building out, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, the ambassador program and really focusing on that as a long-term investment because we don't really see this dissipating as it relates to paid media, but we have the method that we need to offset it from our perspective. So we're right on track.

  • Eric Christian Wold - Senior Equity Analyst

  • And what are the best methodologies you found to improve conversion to a paid subscriber?

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Well, I think the biggest thing that we're doing is really targeting our -- the ad that we're presenting with the payoff when they get to the site. And we've been making some investments in our infrastructure to be able to do more one-to-one what we call merchandising. So when someone comes to the site from an ad that they clicked on, the site is going to look very much relevant to that ad.

  • And this is critically important for us because with 8,000 pieces of content that span the wide variety of topics that our library does, we have to be very crisp in terms of connecting that marketing message to the payoff when they come to the site.

  • Eric Christian Wold - Senior Equity Analyst

  • Got it. And then lastly, on the ambassador program, any metrics you can provide around the early success of that early kind of progress of that in terms of how successful they've been at signing up members and maybe the mix of members are signing up. I'm assuming they're weighted more towards annual and previous subscriptions, maybe just a little help there.

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Sure. There's not a lot of quantitative data that I'm ready to share yet, as we've just been kind of scaling it up since our SVP of Sales joined in March and has been building the team and getting ramped up. But I will answer the last part of your question there.

  • We are seeing a bias towards annual and Events+ as part of our focus. And it makes sense because they get -- the ambassador ends up getting paid based on what we get paid. And so to ramp them up quickly from a cold start, we're trying to focus them on building a revenue base rather than a subscriber base so biasing towards the higher dollar plans.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) We'll hear next from Mark Argentino (sic) [Mark Argento] with Lake Street.

  • Mark Nicholas Argento - Senior Research Analyst, Founding Partner & Head of Institutional Equities

  • Paul, congrats on the new title as well, office of President. So exciting. I wanted to dig in a little bit on kind of unit economics or subscriber economics. Just translate a little bit here for me. So it sounded like retention hasn't either stabilized or improved. So in other words, churn, again, stable or maybe even modestly improved. Is that a fair statement?

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Yes. When you look at it as a function of the percentage of our member base, we're actually improving as a percentage, which means the absolute numbers of lost members each month is staying flat. So as we continue to grow, that means we have to replace less members each month to get forward progress.

  • The summer is obviously a time period where, especially this year, consumers are not typically looking to sign up for new devices. So we talked about this on the August call, that July and the first part of August, we were seeing some of those challenges. But as you get into Labor Day, we saw our historical pattern kind of reemerge that was gone in 2020, which was that once it starts to be fall and kids are getting back to school, you start to see more interest in demand as it relates to the new customer acquisition.

  • Mark Nicholas Argento - Senior Research Analyst, Founding Partner & Head of Institutional Equities

  • And on the new customer side, is it -- is there seasonality in when you can acquire a sub under more of an annual contract or have a better shot at doing that versus monthly?

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Yes. I think it echoes what I just said around the summer being typically a more challenging time in a "normal year".

  • But as we look to coming back into the fall, we've actually been doing some work to focus on, can we skew the annual versus the monthly take rate by doing what we call bonus materials. So a download of a PDF with incremental content in there, some bonus footage that you may not be able to get. So we're actually able to influence what plan people sign up for based on how we present it, which gives us the flexibility as we're looking at different times of year, which way we want to go.

  • $11.99 a month for the revenue benefit or $99 a year to get the cash and retention tied up. So something that we've been exploring the ability to toggle back and forth. But yes, we can absolutely influence it.

  • Mark Nicholas Argento - Senior Research Analyst, Founding Partner & Head of Institutional Equities

  • Great. And then just pivoting to content and content costs. I know you guys are producing more and more of your own content in studio versus buying already preproduced content or scripted content. What's the mix? What do you anticipate the mix of content going forward is going to be? Is it going to be -- are you going to see more type either live or quasi-live or self-produced content versus the scripted content? And maybe just talk a little bit about trends and costs for both your own in-house but also a second or third-party content.

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Sure. So we really look to bias towards doing original productions for the majority of our spend because it's just so much more economically favorable to us, and it's a much more targeted ability for us to produce content into the demand. We typically use licensing for 2 primary things. One, content expansion into topics that we're interested in exploring from a production perspective, but it's a little bit further out from a time horizon. So it makes sense for us to be able to license it to get a better signal of what the interest is there before we ramp up the original production.

  • And then the second area where we're focusing on licensing of content is in our non-English languages as we focus on building out French and German going into '22 to supplement what we have done with Spanish to date. So either of those areas is really to get us into the market as quick as possible to start to be able to mine the data for us to then direct our internal production resources to where we think the biggest opportunity is.

  • Operator

  • We'll take our next question from Rai Reyes with Abbey Investments.

  • Rainerio Reyes

  • Paul, can you hear me?

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Rai, I can.

  • Rainerio Reyes

  • Okay. I want to add my congratulations to -- for a well-deserved promotion. And a lot of my questions have been answered. I just have one additional one. Given the supply chain issues and trouble getting physical goods on shelves, is there an opportunity to sell Gaia memberships as a unique gift idea to the membership base?

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Yes. I think there is definitely an opportunity there as a virtual good. I don't know that it's really set into the consumers' mind yet. I don't want to speculate on people deciding whether they can get what they want for Christmas or not.

  • But what we've typically seen historically is that there's a big push from Thanksgiving through kind of the week before Christmas, that it puts a lot of pressure on the ad market for retailers that have physical goods that they want to ship. So if this dynamic plays out the way that you're indicating it, we might be able to see some favorable opportunities on the ad market, not only for being able to promote last-minute gift opportunities, but also just a dissipation in some of the headwinds that we would normally see during the holiday period.

  • We don't know if that's actually going to be how it plays out. But with what you're hearing from everyone in the shipping challenges, it's a possibility.

  • Rainerio Reyes

  • What about reaching out to the current membership base is an idea to involve their loved ones or friends and family in the Gaia experience?

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Absolutely. That's one of our core tenets of our ambassador program is kind of this refer a friend, invite a friend or share content so that we can get the word out. We haven't formalized a concerted effort or plan to try to try to promote that, but it's definitely something that has a secondary or tertiary message in all of our e-mail communications to our members.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. And at this time, this does conclude our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Tarell for closing remarks.

  • Paul C. Tarell - CFO, Secretary & Office of President

  • Right. Thank you, Cody, and thank you to everyone for your participation today. And I look forward to speaking with you again when we release Q4 results sometime in late February. And I hope everyone has a great day.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you all for your participation.