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  • Operator

  • Good morning. Welcome to Fiverr First Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, this event is being recorded.

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to Maya Tracey, Investor Relations manager. Please go ahead.

  • Maya Tracey - IR Manager

  • Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on Fiverr's earnings conference call for the first quarter ended March 31, 2021. Joining me on the call today are Micha Kaufman, Founder and CEO; and Ofer Katz, President and CFO.

  • Before we start, I would like to remind you that during this call, we may make forward-looking statements and that these statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions as of today, and Fiverr assumes no obligation to update or revise them.

  • A discussion of some of the important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from any forward-looking statements can be found under the Risk Factors section in Fiverr's most recent Form 20-F and other filings with the SEC.

  • During this call, we'll be referring to some non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are provided in the earnings release we issued today and our shareholder letter each of which is available on our website at investors.fiverr.com.

  • And now I will turn the call over to Micha.

  • Micha Kaufman - Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman of the Board

  • Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the call today. Today, we reported an outstanding set of results after a landmark year of incredible growth and resilience. We kicked off the year with revenue growth accelerating to 100% year-over-year doubling our revenue to $68.3 million.

  • Underlining the growth is strength across our business metrics. Active buyers grew 56% year-over-year to over $3.8 million. Spend per buyer increased 22% year-over-year. We see consistent and increasing spend across our existing cohorts and continued growth in revenue from high-value buyers.

  • The world is in the midst of a massive digital transformation. Companies across the globe are adopting remote working models and shifting to hybrid teams by integrating more freelancers into their businesses. This past year has been a world win for small businesses, forcing many of them to quickly adopt and find new ways to serve their customers.

  • For many, this meant the need to digitally transform, and they turned to Fiverr to rebuild, pivot and launch their businesses. For some, this meant adapting from brick-and-mortar to having a digital storefront as we saw massive spikes in searches around e-commerce, website design and sales management tools.

  • Others turn to Fiverr for tools to help enhance and rebuild their businesses like building your own in-house food delivery app. As the crisis reinforces and accelerates the trend towards adopting remote work and moving businesses online, we believe our market base is well positioned to address current needs and serve as a key resource when the economy reaccelerates.

  • It's critical to remember that the majority of market is still operating off-line, presenting a massive and still largely untapped opportunity to bring that business online. Businesses around the world and across all industries, continue to invest and spend more of their budget on transformation. When they make the leap, there is no turning back. They will continue to spend and invest in their digital channels and our business model gives us visibility and confidence that this cohort behavior will continue far beyond the pandemic.

  • Our market base model benefited from the compounding transaction volume by the effect of the pandemic driving outsized cohorts to the platform last year and increased spend across existing cohorts. As we mentioned earlier this year, on average, existing cohorts from 2018 and older grew spend 15% in 2020 compared to 2019.

  • We believe that there is a long growth runway ahead of us, and we are confident that with continued excellent execution, innovation and investment in the creation of valuable tools for our community, we will continue to grow.

  • We believe that our proven ability to successfully create revenue generating products that expand our total addressable market, backed by powerful macro industry tailwinds is highly encouraging for our future. These factors lead to a strong new baseline for our guidance. To ensure this growth continues as the tailwind effect fades, we are Continuing to focus and aggressively invest in our key initiatives and growth engines.

  • after a year of significant growth and powerful Q1, I'm even more excited for what's in store for the rest of the year and beyond. We have continued to make exciting progress towards our key strategic initiatives: moving upmarket; expanding internationally; and developing and enhancing new capabilities for our products and tools while heavily investing in our brand and marketing.

  • On the demand front, we're deepening customer

  • Loyalty and engagement with our subscriptions and milestone products, increasing the lifetime value of our existing and new cohorts. Fiverr Business also continues to grow rapidly and we have implemented strategies to further build brand awareness and have an amazing pipeline of new products planned for the Fiverr Business community.

  • On the supply front, we are excited to have a new vertical centered around data services. This is our latest example of building on our successful playbook with vertical launches.

  • By opening a vertical focused solely on data services, we create a path for elevated category expansion in the data analysis space and further capture and capitalize on the High demand for these services. International expansion is a key component of our upmarket strategy. We continue to

  • Aggressively invest on a global scale, with a focus on deepening our penetration in existing markets and our local marketing efforts.

  • We are encouraged by our localization efforts so far and are investing prudently in building our infrastructure to support further expansion into new geographies. And finally, Promoted Gigs continues to enjoy healthy seller growth, contributing to our take rate expansion we saw this quarter.

  • Fiverr is becoming a household name. Investments in brand awareness are generating a continuous longterm drive for organic traffic and growth in spend. Our Super Bowl ad was viewed by millions of potential buyers and sellers through our TV campaigns, digital and social channels, significantly boosting our brand, and we look forward to expanding on our momentum.

  • The last year has shown us that Fiverr's business is stronger and more resilient than ever. I have never been more proud of our talented and dedicated team. We have shown that in times of great uncertainty, our ability to execute on our strategy and mission has only grown more robust. We are operating at higher efficiency, driving scale on our platform, and investing in our product ecosystem to further fuel our business.

  • We took Fiverr public less than two years ago. This year, we are going to be about three times larger while growing approximately 50% faster. All of this is reflected in the significant upward revision to our 2021 revenue growth rate guidance of 59% to 63% compared to our previous guidance of 46% to 50%. We are confident and highly bullish on our ability to deliver and execute on our goals.

  • We are just getting started. With that, I will turn the call over to Ofer who will share a few Q1 highlights as well as some color for the rest of this year. Ofer?

  • Ofer Katz - President & CFO

  • Thank you, Micha, and good morning everyone. As Micha mentioned in his remarks, we are very excited to deliver another set of amazing results. In Q1, we achieved one of the strongest revenue growth rates in our history with an outstanding 100% year over year increase to $68.3 million - doubling our revenue from the same period last year.

  • This was driven by a spike in active buyers expanding 56% year over year to over 3.8 million. Additionally, we saw accelerating growth throughout the quarter with outsized strength in the back half of the quarter driven by a jump in traffic and registrations in the U.S. shortly after our Super Bowl ad.

  • Spend per buyer was $216 up 22% year-over-year and up by $11 compared to Q4 '20. This was driven by the compounding transaction volume of the outsized new cohorts we acquired last year combined with increasing spend across existing cohorts. As businesses accelerate their pace in digital transformation investments and start to integrate more freelancers into their workflows, we expect this trend to remain at this elevated level

  • going forward.

  • To continue capitalizing on these trends, we are investing aggressively to expand the lifetime value of our new cohorts by providing products such as milestones and subscriptions. Fiverr Business remains a key contributor as we target buyers with

  • larger budgets and larger businesses, while rolling out new enhancements and capabilities on our tools.

  • In addition, we will continue to make significant investments in our brand, building on our growth and momentum from our most recent brand

  • Investments. Our platform continued to enjoy a market leading take rate and a 10-basis point

  • expansion to 27.2% compared to Q1 of last year.

  • This trend of modestly increasing the

  • Take rate is expected to continue in the coming quarters as we continue to grow value added service offerings in our robust pipeline, and recognize the 0.5% transaction fee increase introduced at the end of the quarter.

  • We reported Adjusted EBITDA of negative $0.7 million or negative 1% margin significantly above

  • The high-end of our Q1 guidance of negative $4 million to negative $3 million. The adjusted EBITDA of negative $0.7 million includes the long-term investment of approximately $8 million in the Super Bowl ad.

  • We will continue to prioritize growth, and at the same time, we expect to make continued progress towards our long-term target model. And now for our guidance. For the second quarter 2021, revenue is expected to be $73 million to $75 million. This represents year over year growth of 55% to 59%. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be $5 million to $7 million. We are also upgrading our full year 2021 guidance. We now expect revenue to be in the range of $302 million to $308 million, representing year-over-year growth of 59% to 63%.

  • Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $19.5 million to $24.5 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 7% at the midpoint of the

  • Range. The compounding strength of our existing cohorts and confidence that they will sustain at an elevated level of spending, along with the addition of new cohorts, sets a strong new baseline for our guidance.

  • As we begin to lap the COVID tailwinds starting from Q2 2021, we expect our growth to become more normalized, but stronger than when we entered the pandemic period. As Micha said, we are at the intersection of a new generation of workforce participants and the increasingly sophisticated needs of businesses to have a digital strategy.

  • We see this digital services shift via the freelance market as a global, secular trend that will continue to grow. Fiverr has been and will continue to power these shifts with our unique platform. We have a robust pipeline planned for the rest of the year, and I'm excited to share these updates with you throughout the rest of the year and beyond. With that, we'll now turn the call over to the operator for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question is from Mike Ng in from Goldman Sachs.

  • Michael Ng - Research Analyst

  • I just have 2. First, I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the characteristics of some of the newly acquired cohorts and how that compares to your historical cohorts? And then second, I was just wondering if you could give us a sense of how we should think about the pace of active buyer growth throughout the rest of the year, particularly as growth becomes more normalized?

  • Micha Kaufman - Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman of the Board

  • So I think that as we've noted in our remarks, the characteristics of newly acquired cohorts are pretty similar to our historical cohorts, but with more focused on high-value buyers. And this is being shown, demonstrated in the percentage of high-value buyers that is increasing, including the addition of customers that are joining Fiverr Business and our spending, as we said, about 3x more than regular customers.

  • But what we've seen so far, and this is true, by the way, for all countries including those who are actually starting to come out of the COIVD situation. Among those are areas in the U.S., U.K., Israel, in other countries where the percentage of vaccinated population is above 50%.

  • We haven't seen any change in that trend, and this is very encouraging. What we're seeing is that the momentum that we've been demonstrated throughout the pandemic is not dying, is continuing and continuing very, very strong.

  • Ofer Katz - President & CFO

  • Mike, this is Ofer. As for the second part of the question. So as we look forward into Q2 and the rest of the year guidance, we anticipate that the letting of the last 4 quarters is starting, and we anticipate some level of normalization or normalized growth yet to be fed much faster than what we experienced pre-COVID-19.

  • So if you recall that at the beginning of last year, we were always mentioning that we anticipate balanced growth in terms of buyer and active buyer so that we anticipate that this kind of momentum will continue into the future. And the meaning is that we start to see some level of normalized growth of active buyer but still much faster than what we have seen and used to before the pandemic.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Doug Anmuth from JPMorgan.

  • Douglas Till Anmuth - MD

  • First, I was just hoping to get your view on supply and demand on the marketplace and just kind of where you are in terms of balance and going forward. And just wondering, is there any potential of sellers just kind of going back into primary or previous type of jobs with reopening as hiring ticks up more?

  • Or do you just think that the pandemic has forever change the operating environment? And then just second, on the -- I guess you could elaborate a little bit more on Fiverr business in terms of the higher frequency buyers and more expensive gigs, but is it how you're thinking about progress there or it's still early as well?

  • Micha Kaufman - Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman of the Board

  • So first, when you look at the active buyers as relations to sellers, you see that the ratio has been pretty constant. With -- and we know that there is differences between sellers in their goals and motivations. For some, it's a full-time thing, and they would like to get as many customers as possible, for some it's a side job, and they limit their participation to only a few hours a day.

  • And having a system that actually understands that and since -- or manages liquidity in the right way has been essential for our marketplace for many, many years, and that has been kept very tightly. What we've seen during the pandemic is newer cohorts of more sophisticated and more experienced sellers that were joining us and some of which have been showcased on the media recently.

  • There were 2 big stories on CNBC about sellers from the U.S. that have joined Fiverr just recently, mid last year, and are already making hundreds of thousands of dollars on a yearly basis. We think that the pandemic has changed the way freelancers are viewing this opportunity. I think that being a freelancer is much more of a valid career path, and it enables a new type of lifestyle.

  • So we haven't seen, in the activity of sellers. We haven't seen any of those cohorts retracting or leaving the marketplace in favor of going back to their jobs, in many cases, just because they're making so much more money on fiber than they were doing in their 9 to 5 jobs before that or by spending a lot of their time trying to chase customers in freelancing offline.

  • So that, on the first part of the question, it's for Fiverr Business. I think you rightly noted that it's very early at this point. But what we're seeing is, and this is really interesting, is that Fiverr Business has a lot of capabilities that are very suitable for individual roles within organization or for entire team.

  • So we have within fiber business, you may have a manager within a company running an account and over time that account grows, and we have accounts where we have close to 100 people on as a team. And again, this is very encouraging. It's very early days. But what we're seeing is we're seeing that the cross-category activity there.

  • The ability of the organization to use Fiverr more as a way to augment on the team activity, allow the team to find the type of talent that they don't have within the organization, either having a hard time hiring or not meeting that on a full-time basis is a clear case.

  • And again, our view for this entire decade is that fiber business is going to be the place where companies and businesses come in to integrate freelancers into their workflows. And what we're seeing from Fiverr Business is this exact use case is what's happening.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Ron Josey from JMP Securities.

  • Ronald Victor Josey - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • I have 2, please. If you could talk a little more, Micha, just about brand awareness. You mentioned later building Fiverr into a household name and the growth and awareness around SMBs and also for medium-sized businesses, which talks about going upstream and NPS scores accelerating.

  • But post Super Bowl and all the different benefits that came from that. Can you just talk a little bit more about the marketing strategy as brand awareness just continues to grow, and I think you're doing that in multiple different countries.

  • And then over you mentioned an increase in the transaction fee. I think you said in the back half of the quarter. Just talk a little bit more about that increase, and how you see that going forward. And great quarter, guys.

  • Micha Kaufman - Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman of the Board

  • So we've been looking for a few quarters about brand awareness and about building a household brand. And maybe the peak of that effort for this year has been definitely the Super Bowl ad. But definitely, what we're seeing is, we're seeing that brand awareness in general, both before the Super Bowl and after is on the increase, which means that we're gaining more organic traffic that is coming to us that a lot of it contributes to the viral co-efficiency of our brand, which makes our performance marketing more efficient or cheaper.

  • And that is really important for us. And so the idea is to continue pushing on that front because you become recurrent Fiverr -- you make Fiverr into a synonym for accessing talent, accessing freelancing talent in a very easy to use platform. So definitely something that we will continue investing in. Unfortunately, there's not an additional Super Bowl this year.

  • But we're definitely seeing a lot of opportunity to invest around that. And some of the stories that have been popping out there on the news have been happening organically, like the story that I've mentioned on CNBC is a story that was picked up by media with no integration on our side.

  • And this is exactly the cycle that we want to create. We're seeing also the contribution of organic and brand awareness through the positioning of our services online. Logo Maker is 1 of those examples where you see a service that we launched a few quarters ago and has been increasing its placement on search engines. And because of its high placement at this point, it is generating organic traffic that we're not paying for, to the Logo Maker and to the entire site.

  • We've extended that strategy to more than just the U.S. We've done TV campaigns outside of the U.S. and obviously, online campaigns. And all of them have shown tremendous efficiency. As long as this continues to be the case, we'll continue to invest and continue to expand those efforts. There's still the minority of our investments, but the combination of brand awareness, with performance marketing is something that has proven itself to work really well.

  • Ofer Katz - President & CFO

  • And then, Ron, on the second part of the question on the service fee, the take rate for the service fee. What triggered the change in the services is the fact that cross border transaction cost us more. The structure of the fee with the process has been changed. And it's caused us to cancel these stops into the buy and sell.

  • So we did some tests throughout the quarter, to confirm the fact that customers are absolutely agile and there's no effect in terms of cash conversion, which leads us to add this 0.5% across the entire platform at the end of the quarter.

  • We see that as a part of the new structure, this will definitely impact the take rate throughout the year. But again, to conversion and active buyer, we don't think there is any impact. And it actually gives us a little bit more comfort and the value that we provide throughout the platform, where our ability to increase take rate even beyond the 27% has been a well-accepted on the buyer and the seller side.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Nick Jones from Citi.

  • Nicholas Freeman Jones - Research Analyst

  • I guess 2. One, can you just provide an update on geographic expansion, the traction and progress you're seeing just given COVID is having kind of a varying impact by region? Is there anything different there? Or is it kind of tracking similar to U.S.? Just any color there? And then I'll have a follow-up.

  • Micha Kaufman - Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman of the Board

  • So in terms of GEO expansion, we -- again, another -- 1 of our growth vectors we've been continuing our investment there. We are currently localized in 6 languages, German, French, Dutch, Portuguese, Italian and Spanish. We entered Brazil and Mexico market in November.

  • We've ran TV campaigns in U.K., Germany, Australia. And what we're seeing is, we're seeing great growth there. Our strategy is pretty straightforward. And maybe we've talked to that, I think, before, and that is every country that we open, we want to see its baseline growth changing. The first is changing that trend.

  • The second phase is to make that country grow faster than the overall growth of the marketplace. What we're seeing is we're seeing more countries out of the countries that we've opened, well over half of them that are hyper growing, triple-digit and more percentages in growth. And this is a very encouraging signal for us.

  • And what we've created it. We've created a playbook, a blueprint that allows us to launch more countries in the near future, contributing to growth through that vector. The second part -- as to COVID, I think the second part will cover the impact on -- by region. So I've alluded to that in the beginning of the Q&A by saying that we're tracking very closely the impact that we're seeing through countries that are either experiencing newer waves of COVID outbreak or countries that are moving into normalization.

  • What we've seen is, we've seen that performance is actually not being affected. If anything we're seeing performance continue to increase in those regions that have been starting to go out of the pandemic and it's really maybe an extreme case because the vast majority of population is vaccinated in just to share with you guys, things in Israel are looking as if COVID almost never existed.

  • And we haven't seen any change. If anything, the upward trend in is continuing very, very nicely. The same goes in the U.S. and the U.K. We have seen, obviously, in areas like India or Germany where they're experiencing new waves of outbreak, you see some uplift in traffic that are similar to what we've seen in midst of the pandemic sending more courts of supply to the market.

  • But we haven't seen any trends or anything that would indicate that post pandemic, we should expect to see to see a return to the old baseline. I think Ofer mentioned that, there is -- and we do expect that there is going to be some normalization as we start lapping but that normalization doesn't mean that we're going back to the historical levels. Our new baseline is being kept, which means that we are much, much larger these days, but growing much, much faster.

  • Nicholas Freeman Jones - Research Analyst

  • Great. And then just one, I guess, separate question. Yesterday, the U.S. Labor Department were extended a regulation proposal on the Trump administration regarding gig worker employment status.

  • This reverts kind of back to the Department of Labor Rule from 2008, I think it was the 7-factor test. Can you just remind us how -- or how should we be thinking about the impact of this on Fiverr in the U.S., if there is any impact at all.

  • Micha Kaufman - Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman of the Board

  • Absolutely. So there should be a clear distinction between the gig economy and the freelancing economy or the talent economy. The latter in which we fall into focuses on providing freelancers with the freedom to work on whatever they want, whenever they want and charge whatever they see fit for their services.

  • So our service resembles the relationship that Amazon has with its merchant or Etsy has with its sellers. But we don't believe that the current books are relevant for the e-commerce platform. We do continue to monitor the developments, but we definitely think that the rules that are within the regulation and within court decisions do not apply to Fiverr.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our last question is from Jason Helfstein from Oppenheimer.

  • Jason Stuart Helfstein - MD & Senior Internet Analyst

  • Two questions. One, just on marketing. So you've obviously seen significant, I guess, marketing efficiency tailwinds a big chunk of that's COVID, but also you've built meaningful brand awareness. So just help us think about how you see marketing efficiency going from here.

  • I mean, we can all kind of like run numbers, and we kind of have a sense of probably based on the guidance, what you're going to spend on marketing, but how should we think about marketing efficiency, and what it means for like net ads for the rest of the year?

  • And then is this -- just how do we think about that? And do we hit a point where you start adding more ad -- more net ads, but perhaps they spend less. So just how do we think about the relationship with the rest of the year? And then for the guidance for the rest of the year, any meaningful contribution from Fiverr Business or subscriptions in the guidance for the rest of the year?

  • Micha Kaufman - Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman of the Board

  • Jason. So I think the way we measure the marketing efficiency is well demonstrated in the tROI chart, and if you follow that, you can see that the -- we are able to cover the cost, our investment within the first quarter investments that -- so the tROI actually approximately 3 months.

  • And this has been the case, almost since we went public 2 years ago, and it's just getting better. Now we are able to invest more dollar wise. Bring more buyers, bring bigger, bigger wallet buyers but still keep the tROI superefficient. They've also been able to increase the marketing investment and the awareness and awareness sales rather than convergence and reduce the cost of sales and marketing as a sensing revenue over time.

  • So that's how we measure. We think that the buyers we bring has a high lifetime value, which doesn't mature in the first quarter. Buyer that we bring are active in the marketplace for many years. So that I recur back to the tROI, you can see that after 2, 3 and 4 years, the lifetime value to CAC is more than 4, and growing on a quarterly basis quarter-over-quarter.

  • So that when we look forward, we believe that we can maintain the sustainable tROI metrics. We do that by adding more channels, investing in technology, opening new categories an increasing lifetime value of buyers. This goes to the second part of the question in terms of products like either business, product like subscription, but many others.

  • So that every quarter, and this has been the case since the inception of the company, the quality of the buyer is higher. We are able to pay more for each buyer because of its lifetime value and keeping the tROI is superefficient. So in terms of guidance, once Fiverr Business or subscription become more mature and more substantial to the business will give more color.

  • So I think we are -- both products that's been released a quarter or 2 quarters ago, still adding users. We are collecting the data, so that it's still early. And over time, we think that we'll be able to share more data. I will just point last data point that do capture this going up market and the contribution of all the products that we released.

  • I think that we do share the high-value buyer percentage of revenue, how this group is contributing to the overall revenue. This has been growing to 59% of our quarterly revenue comparing 58% in the last quarter. So the contribution of those products, yet too early to model, aside, but contribute to the overall high-value buyer. And you can see that if you track this high-value buyer since we went public, you can see how this number is growing because of those types of initiatives.

  • Operator

  • This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Micha for closing remarks.

  • Micha Kaufman - Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman of the Board

  • Thank you, Kate. Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today, and have a good rest of the day. We'll talk to you next quarter. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.