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  • Operator

  • Hello, and welcome to the Fuel Tech Inc. Fourth Quarter 2021 Financial Results Conference Call and Webcast. (Operator Instructions). As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Devin Sullivan with the Equity Group. Please go ahead, Devin.

  • Devin Sullivan - SVP

  • Thank you, Kevin. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Fuel Tech's Fourth Quarter 2021 Financial Results Conference Call. Yesterday after the close, we issued the company's financial results. A copy of the release is available at Fuel Tech's website, www.ftek.com. Our speakers today will be Vince Arnone, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ellen Albrecht, the company's Principal Financial Officer. After prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions from our analysts and investors.

  • Before turning things over to Vince, I'd like to remind everyone that matters discussed in this call, except for historical information, are forward-looking statements as defined in Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and reflect Fuel Tech's current expectations regarding future growth, results of operations, cash flows, performance and business prospects and opportunities as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to our company's management.

  • Fuel Tech has tried to identify forward-looking statements by using words such as anticipate, believe, plan, expect, estimate, intend, will and similar expressions, but these words are not the exclusive means of identifying forward-looking statements. These statements are based on information currently available to Fuel Tech and are subject to various risks, uncertainties and other factors including, but not limited to, those discussed in Fuel Tech's annual report on Form 10-K in Item 1A under the caption Risk Factors and subsequent filings under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended, which could cause Fuel Tech's actual growth, results of operations, financial condition, cash flow performance and business prospects and opportunities to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by these statements.

  • Fuel Tech undertakes no obligation to update such factors or to probably announce the results of any forward-looking statements contained herein to reflect future events, developments or changed circumstances or for any other reason. Investors are cautioned that all forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including those detailed in the company's filings with the SEC.

  • With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Vince Arnone. Vince, please go ahead.

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thank you, Devin. Good morning, and I want to thank everyone for joining us on the call today. We were very pleased to end the year with improved operating performance. For the full year 2021, we generated higher revenues, continued a strict cost control discipline that produced lower selling, general and administrative expenses, significantly reduced our operating loss. And we reported annual net income for the first time since 2013. Our current balance sheet is among the strongest in our history, and we ended 2021 with $37.1 million in total cash and no debt.

  • Our FUEL CHEM segment generated higher revenues and higher segment gross margin compared to 2020. Net sales for FUEL CHEM increased 24.1% to $17.4 million from last year's $14 million number, benefiting from our current installed base, new program installations, and an overall rise in demand for energy related to increased economic activity and higher seasonal power usage versus the heavily COVID-impacted year in 2020.

  • As I discussed in last quarter's call, we continue to expect some pressure on our FUEL CHEM business segment, resulting from the reduced use of our chemical technology due to scheduled coal-fired plant shutdowns and to a decline in coal-fired dispatch. By way of background, COVID-19 had distinct impacts on our FUEL CHEM business over the past 2 years.

  • In 2020, utility and industrial power plant operators experienced higher levels of downtime due to overall lower demand for energy usage. In some cases, these operators took advantage of that downtime to perform extensive non-routine maintenance on their units. Conversely, 2021 turned out to be a better-than-expected year for FUEL CHEM, given the economic tailwinds created by the country's initial emergence from COVID-19-related shutdowns last year, and to fewer than normal downtime related outages as these outages were largely taken in 2020.

  • As we look ahead to 2022, we see FUEL CHEM revenues of $13 million to $15 million, approximating the $14.1 million in revenues that this segment generated in 2019. This reduction from 2021 is due to one known plant shutdown as of 12/31/21 from a long-term customer in the business segment, the return of a more normalized maintenance outage schedule in 2022, and to the continued pressure on the remainder of our customer base to optimize program usage.

  • APC revenues for the year were lower. Although we did generate approximately $8 million of new awards in the APC segment during 2021, and we added $2 million of new bookings during the first quarter of 2022. Our total APC backlog, inclusive of these recent awards, is approximately $10.5 million as of this date. While not quite at the levels of prior years, it is strengthening, and we continue to pursue a global sales pipeline of between $50 million to $75 million.

  • We believe that 2021 was the low point for our APC business and expect our revenues from this segment will improve significantly in 2022 from the $6.9 million recorded this year. In conjunction with anticipated FUEL CHEM revenues of $13 million to $15 million, we expect that total revenues for 2022 will show a modest improvement from 2021.

  • We are continuing to explore ways to broaden Fuel Tech's portfolio of environmental remediation solutions. One such opportunity, which we have discussed in prior calls, involves providing our chemical technology solution to address the emissions created by the burning of high-sulfur fuel oil in Mexico, which is being undertaken without the necessary environmental remediation and at the expense of the health of surrounding communities.

  • We are continuing to support our partner in Mexico as they engage with local officials to advance this solution. The current Mexican government is in favor of utilizing indigenous fuel sources for power generation to ensure that they can move towards becoming energy independent. There is currently a glut of high-sulfur fuel oil in Mexico as the international market for this product has been significantly reduced with the adoption of new international maritime organization restrictions, which prohibit the use of this fuel for ocean transport.

  • We will continue to watch the development of this activity closely. However, we believe that political pressure is building in favor of the implementation of our FUEL CHEM program at additional facilities in Mexico. And our partner is currently in discussions with the state-owned utility CFE, regarding application of the technology at several units at one plant site.

  • For the APC segment, we continue to pursue opportunities for our SCR and ULTRA product offerings. However, our recent contract award press release fully demonstrates that our full suite of APC technologies remains relevant. Recent contract awards and current discussions have involved the application of our SNCR emissions control solution to reduce nitrogen oxides from stationary combustion sources for domestic and international applications and also our Flue Gas Conditioning technology to improve the performance of electrostatic precipitators for an international client.

  • Additionally, decarbonization is top of mind for many industries. And we are closely watching the planning of the steel industry and others as they pledge to invest in technologies to improve their global carbon footprint.

  • Fuel Tech has long-standing relationships with technology suppliers and end-users that will assist in our ability to capitalize on these opportunities as they continue to develop. During the year, we made significant progress with our developmental Dissolved Gas Infusion or DGI business initiative. Over the past couple of years, we have made measured, strategic investments in this technology, which is focused on industrial and municipal water and wastewater treatment.

  • During 2021, we completed 3 successful demonstrations in the United States and are currently working with these potential customers to determine next steps. We completed the fabrication of a higher-capacity DGI equipment delivery system that will allow us to offer a treatment solution, which we believe will be required for our targeted applications.

  • We recently finalized a market opportunity assessment in conjunction with an outside firm that we believe will assist our long-term product commercialization activities, and we are continuing to execute on our commercialization and development plan.

  • The primary market areas of opportunity that we have identified include the following: municipal wastewater, agricultural production, food and beverage, natural waters and landfill leachate. These addressable markets are material. However, our ability to capture a share of the market opportunity is solely dependent on our ability to execute on our commercialization and development plan.

  • As a result, as we look ahead to 2022 for DGI, we have established the following goals for our company. We need to complete verifiable, documented DGI performance testing that's independently confirmed by experts in the field. This work is currently in process. Next, we are working with water and wastewater treatment marketing specialists to develop our approach to our identified markets.

  • Lastly, we are looking to begin to build an internal resource base, specifically in support of DGI, starting later in the year. We believe that we have created a strong foundation upon which to commercialize this technology, and we are targeting for late 2022.

  • In closing, I want to thank the Fuel Tech team for their continued hard work and dedication to our company. Like many companies, we have worked diligently through 2 very challenging years impacted by the pandemic. We are excited about 2022, and we look forward to keeping you apprised of our progress.

  • With that said, I'll now turn the call over to Ellen. Ellen, please go ahead.

  • Ellen T. Albrecht - Acting Treasurer, Controller & Principal Financial Officer

  • Thank you, Vince, and good morning, everyone. For the quarter, consolidated revenues rose to $6.5 million from $6.2 million in last year's fourth quarter. AP segment revenue rose to $3.1 million from $2.5 million in last year's fourth quarter, reflecting project execution timing and revenue generation from new orders booked throughout the year. FUEL CHEM product line revenue declined slightly to $3.4 million from $3.7 million, primarily due to a one-time system sale in the fourth quarter of 2020 that was not repeated in 2021. Chemical revenue on a comparative basis slightly increased over the prior-year quarter.

  • Consolidated gross margin for 2021 4th quarter improved to 50.2% of revenues from 41.9% of revenues due to segment mix. APC gross margin improved to 55.6% of revenue from 29% of revenue in last year's fourth quarter, reflecting product mix and the impact of a loss contract due to a warranty remediation that occurred in late 2020. FUEL CHEM's gross margin was 45.3% compared to 50.7% in last year's fourth quarter, reflecting the system sale previously mentioned in that comparative 2020 period.

  • Consolidated APC segment backlog as of December 31, 2021, was $9.1 million, up from $8.2 million on September 30, 2021, and $5.3 million on December 31, 2020. Higher backlog at year-end was the result of $7.8 million of new contract awards received during the year. Backlog on December 31 included $3.4 million of domestic delivered project backlog and $5.7 million of foreign delivered project backlog as compared to $1.9 million of domestic project backlog and $3.4 million of international delivered project backlog as of December 31, 2020. We expect that $5.6 million of current consolidated backlog will be recognized in the next 12 months.

  • SG&A expenses declined by 15.3% to $3.2 million compared to $3.8 million in last year's fourth quarter, reflecting lower employee-related expenses and office and administrative costs on a global basis. As a percentage of revenue, SG&A in the 2021 fourth quarter declined to 49.6% from 60.7% in the 2020 fourth quarter.

  • Research and development expenses for the fourth quarter were steady at approximately $300,000, primarily attributed to the continued efforts on the commercialization of our DGI technology.

  • Our operating loss narrowed to $221,000 from $1.7 million in last year's fourth quarter, reflecting higher revenues, improved margin and significantly lower operating costs. Our net loss for the quarter was $244,000 or $0.01 per share compared to a net loss of $1.5 million or $0.07 per share in the same period 1 year ago. Adjusted EBITDA loss was [$46,000] compared to an adjusted EBITDA loss of $1.1 million in the same period last year. For the year, consolidated revenues rose to $24.3 million from $22.6 million in 2020, reflecting a 24.1% increase in FUEL CHEM revenues offset by a 19.4% decline in APC revenue.

  • The increase in FUEL CHEM segment revenue was attributed to a return to normal run rate among our existing fleet and the addition of new units. APC segment revenue declined year-over-year due to a delay in contract bookings and the timing of completion on existing projects.

  • Consolidated gross margins rose to 49% from 47.2% last year. Of note, we recorded a $2.6 million insurance settlement in the third quarter of 2020. Absent that settlement, gross margin for the 2020 full year was 29.8%. SG&A expenses for 2021 declined by 11.4% to $12.1 million from $13.6 million in 2020, which falls within the forecasted range we previously provided.

  • For full year 2022, we expect SG&A expenses to range between $12 million and $12.5 million. However, we will adjust our spending as necessary to reflect any material changes in business activity, including new contract awards or further developments in the application of our DGI technology.

  • Operating loss narrowed to $1.5 million from $4.3 million in 2020. Net income for 2021 was $54,000 or $0.00 per diluted share compared to a net loss of $4.3 million or $0.17 per diluted share in 2020. Net income for 2021 included other income of $1.6 million, reflecting full forgiveness of the loan proceeds from the Paycheck Protection Program established pursuant to the CARES Act. Other income in 2020 was $119,000. Adjusted EBITDA loss for 2021 was in $662,000 in 2021 compared to the adjusted EBITDA loss of $2.9 million in 2020.

  • Moving to the balance sheet. I'm happy to report that our financial conditions remain very strong. As of December 31, 2021, we had cash and cash equivalents of $35.9 million and restricted cash of $1.2 million. Working capital was $38.2 million or $1.26 per share, Stockholders' equity was $46.2 million or $1.53 per share, and the company had no debt. Cash provided by operating activities on December 31 was $761,000 compared to a use of cash of $2.7 million last year.

  • To reiterate Vince's earlier comments, we're very pleased with the improved operating performance of the company. We remain focused on cost control initiatives and efforts related to our core and expanding businesses as we move into 2022.

  • I will now turn the call back over to Vince.

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thanks very much, Ellen. Operator, why don't we go ahead and open the line for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question today is coming from Amit Dayal from H.C. Wainwright.

  • Amit Dayal - MD of Equity Research & Senior Technology Analyst

  • Vince, maybe going to the gross margin side for 2022. With the mix of business you're expecting between APC and FUEL CHEM this year, will you sort of be able to maintain gross margins at the 50% level seen in 4Q? Or should we expect that to come in a little bit lower?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes. I -- as we look at 2022, as I had noted, if we're going to have a slight shift in revenue mix between FUEL CHEM and APC, I would expect the overall weighted average gross margin to notch down a little bit, Amit, as we look at 2022. Ultimately, it will depend on the APC side, what is the mix of technologies that we're going to be selling and what are the related gross margins that are associated with those projects. But overall answer, I would expect, as we sit here today, a slight decline in weighted average gross margin.

  • Amit Dayal - MD of Equity Research & Senior Technology Analyst

  • Okay. Understood. And then do we have any exposure to the European markets, whether positive or negative given all of the macro issues playing out over there?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes. The -- most of the project work that we're doing in Europe is indeed natural gas-based work for plants that are burning natural gas and some biomass as well and municipal solid waste. We -- as we sit here today, we don't see any downside to what we're tracking for 2022 as it relates to what's going on with our geopolitical situation today.

  • Amit Dayal - MD of Equity Research & Senior Technology Analyst

  • Okay. Understood. And...

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • And, Amit, just to add one more thing. Supply chains are still an issue on a global basis, whether it be Europe or the United States as well. We've been working through some of those issues with all of our projects on a global basis, but I would continue to see some disruptions in 2022 and probably beyond as we sit here today. It's still challenging to have many of our suppliers keep schedules intact. And that does impact our project work and particularly the timing of execution.

  • Amit Dayal - MD of Equity Research & Senior Technology Analyst

  • Yes, I was just going to (inaudible) the COVID-related delays are behind you, but the supply chain issues still sort of are in play, at least for the next few quarters, right?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Oh, absolutely so. Absolutely so. It's still difficult to work logistics in this country and around the world as well. Trying to plan and schedule shipments of goods is a challenge. And again, some of the pieces and parts that we utilize for our systems involve, obviously, some manufacturing processes that are located in parts of the world that were heavily impacted by COVID.

  • Amit Dayal - MD of Equity Research & Senior Technology Analyst

  • And then just going to DGI, would it -- I mean, would it be too optimistic to expect potential sales in 2023? Or is that a possibility given sort of the timelines you provided for different efforts?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • As it relates to our water initiative, Amit?

  • Amit Dayal - MD of Equity Research & Senior Technology Analyst

  • Yes, yes.

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes. As it relates to '23, as I sit here today, yes, I would expect some revenues in 2023. I would hope that we have our first opportunity at a commercial sale before the end of this year, given the efforts that we are expending. And given the additional bit of investment we are making in water at this point in time, I would expect to see the beginnings of commercialization towards the end of this year and then -- and some revenue flow from '23. Dollar amount yet at this point in time is indeed unknown as we sit here. We'll talk more about forecast as it relates to DGI, as we get a little bit more traction in marketplaces. But today, it's a little premature, but the expectation is there.

  • Amit Dayal - MD of Equity Research & Senior Technology Analyst

  • So that's good to hear. It's good to see a new revenue stream potentially emerging for you guys.

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • No. As we've discussed on prior calls over these past couple of 3 years, having us develop a stream of revenue from a new product market combination is indeed essential for us. It's very -- it was very important for us to stabilize the company. And with 2021 basically being a breakeven year on the financial statement and also on -- from a cash flow generation statement as well. We're very pleased that we've come back to stability. That enables us to spend more time and invest some money on the water side of the equation.

  • Amit Dayal - MD of Equity Research & Senior Technology Analyst

  • Great. You guys have done a pretty good job on the operational cost side. For 2022, should we expect similar levels as what we saw in 2021 from an OpEx perspective?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • I would say, as we sit here right now, a similar amount for SG&A is a good bet based upon where we are today.

  • Amit Dayal - MD of Equity Research & Senior Technology Analyst

  • Okay. Understood.

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • SG&A and R&D level should approximate 2021 levels in 2022.

  • Operator

  • Your next question today is coming from Pete Enderlin from MAZ Partners.

  • Peter J. Enderlin - Portfolio Manager

  • Can you give a little more color on the decline in the revenues in the FUEL CHEM segment in the fourth quarter? You mentioned lower revenues from nonchemical sales, does that strictly mean equipment? Or is there something else that affected that in the fourth quarter a year ago?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • No. I mean basically, what happened there, Pete, is the fact that we had the opportunity to actually sell some of our chemical technology equipment in the prior year. That's a little bit unusual for us. Typically, we don't sell our chemical technology equipment, but if the customer wants to take ownership of the equipment, we will work with them to actually sell it to them. But generally speaking, that's not our mode of operation. But that's the reason why we actually had a decline year-on-year. The chemical...

  • Peter J. Enderlin - Portfolio Manager

  • Can you give us some sense of how much that equipment portion of it was the prior quarter?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Approximately $0.5 million give or take, Pete.

  • Peter J. Enderlin - Portfolio Manager

  • Okay. yes, that's helpful. And then when you're talking about -- you mentioned opportunities for decarbonization in different industries, specifically, including the steel industry, what form would the application take there for steel production.

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Right. For us, it would really include our SCR and ULTRA technologies because for the steel industry, we treat their processed gases. And much of the steel industry is looking to go ahead. And at this point in time, we've seen a lot of activity from Nucor steel. We've seen ArcelorMittal come out and make public statements about looking to specifically decarbonize their facilities on a global basis. And where we have relationships with Nucor. We have a good relationship with the primary technology supplier to Arcelor.

  • And we're seeing other investments, if you will -- or statements regarding investments from other industries as well. So we see a little bit more of this coming, and we're willing to look to participate in some of that movement. We're a long-term supplier to Nucor. And we intend to continue to be a long-term supplier to Nucor.

  • Peter J. Enderlin - Portfolio Manager

  • And is that specifically for blast furnaces? Or is it for other kinds of fired-up operations as they may have?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • It would be on their furnace-related activities, yes. Without getting into technical details, which are beyond my capability, yes. It's related to their furnace.

  • Peter J. Enderlin - Portfolio Manager

  • Okay. And then talking about DGI, you did say that you completed a -- or had an outside firm completed a market assessment. Can you give us any sense at all of the potential size of the available market? I mean even if it's not directly addressable by you in some cases, but are we talking hundreds of millions of dollars for the whole effort of improving wastewater treatment and other kinds of water treatment operations? And obviously, that's a long-term project. But something that could give us a sense of the economic significance of the whole venture, the whole matrix of broader treatment as you could address it?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Right. The -- I noted in my comments by saying that the markets are material, and I tried not to be specific relative to the size of the [market]. The water-related investments that we see that are going to be made in the next decade are -- they are in the -- it's in the hundreds of millions and larger dollars that we're talking about. We have infrastructure issues as it relates to municipal wastewater. We have, on the natural water side, food and beverage side capacity constraints with systems that are existing today.

  • So as we look at all of these markets -- Pete, they're large markets. The DGI system as we look at share of marketplace, has the capability to play a role in all of these markets, right? It's premature for me to say what our -- we think our capture rate can be, right? The markets are large. It wouldn't take much of a percentage of capture to have a material impact on Fuel Tech's businesses, right? But as we sit here today, it's premature for me to be stating anything specific about our target for a dollar value in market capture for DGI.

  • I hope to be able to speak more about that as we move towards later in 2022 and '23. We have some critical steps that we have to accomplish here internally within Fuel Tech before at that point, but we did the study to ensure that the market opportunity was indeed worth us continuing to invest in DGI. And so it did confirm that.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our next question is coming from Kurt Caramanidis from Carl M. Hennig.

  • Kurt James Caramanidis - VP

  • How do you see your overall pipeline in this environment? I guess, to a somewhat of a novice, it seems like it's all hands on deck, all energy, coal, natural gas, everything with all the issues. Is it too early to tell if this opens up new opportunities? Or how could you see your pipeline of opportunity developing over the next maybe several months, few months kind of thing?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thanks for the question, Kurt. I appreciate it. And it's a very relevant question with what's going on in the world today and pressure on energy-related marketplaces in all parts of the world. For the pipeline that we are tracking today -- and I had mentioned a dollar value of $50 million to $75 million, we're not expecting to see a material change on that activity level as we sit here today based upon what's going on with world activities. 2021, we -- this country saw more utilization of coal than we've seen in quite some time.

  • But does that mean it's going to continue prospectively? Not necessarily so. So it's difficult for us to be able to make a statement that we're going to see an uptick in business as it relates to what's happened in 2021, right? Natural gas prices are high. They're high on a global basis. There's a lot of pressure on natural gas. That doesn't mean that natural gas isn't going to be burned in large quantities in this country because 40% of our energy in this country is coming from natural gas. Now fortunately, our technologies are applicable to natural gas, and the majority of our APC revenues over these past 2 to 3 to 4 years have come from natural gas applications.

  • So that's going to stay as part of our mix. So call it, a summarized answer to your question, I don't think we're going to see an impact, based upon what we know today, positively or negatively based upon world events today. We're tracking it closely. Would it be nice to see some favorable trends come our way? Sure would, but I really don't see a lot of reversal of pressure on coal in this country coming to bear. Does that help, Kurt?

  • Kurt James Caramanidis - VP

  • Yes. I don't know if around the world, them having to use more would make a difference, but that makes perfect sense to me. The other thing with -- you've got quite a few irons in the fire, things look quite constructive overall with the water treatment thing on the uptick. With trading at nearly cash -- I mean, is the management team considering making some purchases of stock to show confidence in the future? Or how should we look at that?

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Yes, given where we're trading today and actually, we -- obviously, you're correct, we're trading a little bit below -- sorry, above cash value. With our discussions at Board level at this point in time, we are not giving consideration to buying back stock as we sit here today. We would like to have positive news from our business, actually drive shareholder value and share price. And I believe that as a company, we can do that. We do have investments to make in developing our water treatment technology that's going to obviously require some funds.

  • And the capital raise that we did last year was predominantly focused on us being able to have Fuel Tech continue as a long-term viable company. So until we've taken some steps down that path, I think it's more opportune for us to used that cash to invest in our company and our people to ensure that we are indeed pointing ourselves in the proper direction for the future. So that's the way we look at that today, Kurt.

  • Kurt James Caramanidis - VP

  • Yes, I agree. I was mainly talking about purchases by insiders actually buying the stock, give some confidence to the Street and not the company. I totally got you there.

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • No, I understand your question. And we've had some inside purchasing over the past couple of years. I've done some a couple of other employees have done it as well. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a little bit of that activity moving forward as well.

  • Operator

  • We've reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to management for any further closing comments.

  • Vincent J. Arnone - Chairman, CEO & President

  • Thank you, Kevin. I want to thank everyone for joining us on the call today. I thank all of our stakeholders for their interest and participation in our company. And lots of things going on in the world today. And sometimes, it makes what we're doing here within Fuel Tech seem to be minimal in nature given concerns over Ukraine and other parts of the world. But the employee team, the Board of Directors are fully in support of ensuring that we continue to look to push Fuel Tech forward and to generate shareholder value in any way that we can. Thanks, everyone.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your line at this time, and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.