Financial Institutions Inc (FISI) 2018 Q4 法說會逐字稿

Good morning, and welcome to the Financial Institutions Fourth Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call.

(Operator Instructions) Please note this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Shelly Doran, Director of Investors and External Relations.

Ms. Doran, please go ahead.

Good morning, and thank you for joining us for today's call.

Providing prepared comments will be President and Chief Executive Officer, Martin Birmingham; and Chief Financial Officer, Kevin Klotzbach.

During the question-and-answer portion of the call, they will be joined by Chief Banking and Revenue Officer, Bill Kreienberg; Deputy CFO, Justin Bigham; and Chief Accounting Officer, Mike Grover.

Today's prepared comments and Q&A will include forward-looking statements.

Actual results may differ materially from forward-looking statements due to a variety of risks, uncertainties and other factors.

We refer you to yesterday's earnings release and our historical SEC filings, all available on our website.

For our safe harbor description and a detailed discussion of the risk factors relating to forward-looking statements.

We will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures intended to supplement and not substitute for comparable GAAP measures.

Reconciliation for these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures were provided in yesterday's earnings release, which was filed as an exhibit to our Form 8-K.

Please note that this call includes information that is accurate only as of today's date, February 1, 2019.

I'll now turn the call over to Marty.

Thank you, Shelly, and once again, good morning, and welcome to Financial Institutions fourth quarter and year-end earnings conference call.

Before I get into the discussion results, I would like to welcome Justin Bigham to his first call with us.

Last call, we announced his appointment to serve as Executive Vice President and Deputy CFO.

When Kevin retires as CFO on March 31, Justin will be named CFO.

The timing of our succession plan enabled Justin to participate in the fourth quarter close and reporting activities, and he led our 2019 budget process.

His insight and experience were incredibly beneficial, and we welcome his leadership and contribution to our efforts.

We look forward to introducing Justin to many of you in the near future.

I'm very pleased with the progress we made in 2018 on many fronts.

Total loans grew by 12.9% with the highest growth achieved in our critical relationship-based loan portfolios.

By seeking to maintain credit discipline and manage risk effectively, we believe asset quality continues to remain strong.

As a result of robust loan growth and increasing portfolio yield, we generated the highest level of net interest income in our history.

We made good progress on the redeployment of marketable securities into loans.

Funding approximately $143 million of new loans with proceeds from securities.

Our successful business strategies and initiatives enabled us to grow total deposits by 4.9%.

We continue to execute our strategy to diversify revenue with a second quarter acquisition of HNP Capital, a Rochester-based investment advisory firm.

And lastly, succession plans for our CFO and Chief Human Resources Officer were implemented, and key personnel were added to position us for future success.

I would also like to address this quarter's noncash goodwill impairment charge related to SDN of $2.4 million.

We performed an annual assessment with the assistance of a third-party valuation firm to confirm the value of goodwill related to this subsidiary.

The fourth quarter 2018 impairment was primarily driven by 2 factors.

First, market multiples for insurance agencies decreased from 2017 to 2018.

And second, the agency loss its only carrier for one of its specialty lines of business.

We worked diligently to find a replacement carrier but our efforts were unsuccessful.

We acknowledge that the process of converting SDN into a bank-owned agency has been challenging.

As disappointing as this quarter's charge is, we are seeing good momentum in core insurance revenue grow from bank customers.

I'll now turn the call over to our CFO, Kevin Klotzbach, who'll provide an overview of financial results and our outlook for key areas in 2019.

Thank you, Marty.

Good morning, everyone.

I'll begin with a review of our financial results.

Net income was $7.5 million in the quarter, down from both the third quarter 2018 and fourth quarter 2017 levels.

As discussed in the press release, early comparisons were negatively impacted by this quarter's $2.4 million or $0.15 per share goodwill impairment charge, and a $667,000 or $0.03 per share nonrecurring retirement and severance expense.

To exclude the impact of these items, income before taxes increased $1.1 million from the fourth quarter of 2017 and decreased $430,000 from the third quarter of 2018.

The driver of the decrease from the third quarter of 2018 was the provision for loan losses, which was up $1.8 million.

You will recall, that we -- that our third quarter 2018 provision was lower than a typical quarter, at $2.1 million due to a combination of factors.

These factors included a lower level of historic net charge-offs, an increase in the value of collateral associated with impaired loans and improved qualitative factors.

The fourth quarter 2018 provision was $3.9 million.

Net charge-offs to average loans annualized were 51 basis points in the quarter because of 3 commercial loan charge-offs.

By their nature, charge-offs vary.

We believe our asset quality remains sound as illustrated by our nonperforming assets as a historical low percentage level.

The ratio of nonperforming loans to total loans was 23 basis points as of December 31, which is the lowest quarterly level we have experienced over the past 10 years.

The ratio was 26 basis points as of September 30, 2018 and 46 basis points as of December 31, 2017.

Net interest margin for the quarter was 3.21%, up 4 basis points from the third quarter of 2018.

The increase was primarily driven by a continued improvement in our interest-earning asset mix, and the funding of loans from a reduction in the securities portfolio.

Our average loan yield in the fourth quarter increased 13 basis points as a result of new loan origination yields exceeding the yields on loans paying down as well as the impact of rising rates on variable rate loans in our portfolio.

The average yield on interest earning assets was 4.11%, up 11 basis points from the third quarter.

Our cost of funds was 90 basis points, up 7 basis points from the third quarter of 2018.

It is noteworthy that we benefited from a higher level of average public deposits in the fourth quarter as compared to the third quarter due to the normal public deposit seasonality.

We also continue to make progress on redeploying a portion of securities portfolio into loans, approximately $34 million of fourth quarter loans were funded with proceeds from securities.

Investment securities at year-end were down $149.2 million from $1.04 billion at the end of 2017.

Approximately $6 million of the 2018 decline is attributable to unrealized loss adjustments and the remaining $143 million represents maturities, sales and payment proceeds.

Noninterest income was $468,000 lower than the third quarter of 2018.

A primary driver of this decrease was insurance income, down $489,000 because of seasonality and the fourth quarter impact of nonrenewables in one of the agency's specialty line of businesses that Marty mentioned earlier.

First and third quarter of our insurance income continue to be higher than the second and fourth quarters because of the annual contingent commission revenue, and the seasonality of commissions on commercial involvements.

I'll now move to a discussion on noninterest expenses.

Including the noncash goodwill impairment charge, noninterest expenses totaled $25.5 million in the quarter.

Equal to the guidance we provided in our last call.

Salary and employee benefits expense was up $403,000 from the third quarter, primarily because of $667,000 of employee retirement and severance-related expenses.

Professional service expenses were $573,000 lower than the third quarter primarily due to the third quarter professional search fees services related to new -- our new Chief Human Resource Officer and Deputy CFO, combining the lower fourth quarter audit fees.

The effective tax rate was 22.7% in the fourth quarter, up from 19.5% in the third quarter.

The fourth quarter 2018 rate was negatively impacted by the goodwill impairment charge that is not deductible for tax purposes.

I'd now like to spend a few moments providing our outlook for 2019 and some key areas.

We expect high single-digit growth in our total loan portfolio with commercial and residential loan production driving the growth.

We expect Consumer Indirect production for 2019 to be consistent with fourth quarter 2018 production annualized.

We plan for mid-single-digit growth in nonpublic deposits.

We anticipate a net interest margin within a range of 3.25% to 3.35%, which is highly dependent on the overall rate environment.

We also project mid-single-digit growth in noninterest income.

Noninterest expense, was targeted to increase in the low to mid-single-digit range in 2019, with quarterly noninterest expenses of $25.5 million to $26.5 million.

We expect to continue to see typical quarterly variability and expenses due to the timing of incentive compensation, (inaudible) expenses and marketing costs.

We anticipate that our efficiency ratio will be within a range of 59% to 60% for the full year.

We plan to continue the execution of our strategy to redeploy a portion of our securities portfolio into loans, anticipate converting between $110 million and $160 million of securities into loans in 2019, bringing us to a level in line with our peers at 15% to 20% of total assets.

And lastly, we expect the effective tax rate for 2019 will be within a range of 20% to 21%.

I would also like to add that provision for loan loss was $4.4 million lower in 2018 than 2017, because of the combination of factors that I mentioned earlier in my comments.

Most of this impact was recognized in the second quarter.

We expect the provision to return to normal levels in 2019, in line with our historical experience.

I'll now turn it back to Marty.

Thank you very much, Kevin.

As we discussed during last quarter's call, Consumer Indirect lending remains a profitable business and a core competency.

However, we continue to focus on growing commercial and residential lending as these types of loans are more conducive to the development of full customer relationships that may include deposits, insurance and wealth management.

Consumer Indirect loans at year-end represented 29.8% of our total loan portfolio, down from a peak of 35% several years ago, and down from 32% just a year ago.

Additional key priorities for 2019 include our ongoing effective delivery of our competitively advantaged community banking model in Western New York.

In addition, we will continue to seek to take advantage of growth opportunities available to us as a result of ongoing disruption in our markets.

Throughout the organization, our associates remained focused on strong customer relationships and living our brand promise supporting our customers, financial well-being at the heart of everything we do.

We remain committed to our disciplined credit culture, rounded and rigorous and thorough underwriting, active monitoring and communication with borrowers, and following the community banking model of knowing our customers, making decisions locally and lending in our footprint.

We are implementing appropriate compensation programs to incentivize associates.

Rewarding them for business development in and across our lines of business.

We also remain very focused on deposit growth.

To conclude, we made significant investments in systems, people and platforms over the past 5 years to support our associates, customers and communities.

I believe we are now very well positioned to build on our 2018 results.

I'm looking forward to 2019 and the many opportunities it will bring.

Anita, before we open the call for questions, I want to acknowledge a few other concluding remarks.

Today is our last conference call with Kevin serving as our CFO, as he will be retiring from that role on March 31.

And I would be remiss if I did not take a few minutes to recognize his many contributions to Five Star Bank and Financial Institutions, Inc.

Kevin joined our organization in 2001 as Vice President and Treasurer.

Shortly after I was named CEO in March of 2013, Kevin was promoted to Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer.

Kevin and I have worked together to effect positive change and to develop with our board and our executive management team in long-term strategic plan.

I believe we made great strides in growing and strengthening our company over the past 6 years.

And Kevin's efforts have been instrumental in that process and the outcomes we have achieved.

Kevin, on behalf of our associates across the company, thank you for all you have done to continue with -- to contribute to our success in support of our shareholders, our associates, our customers and the communities we serve.

Anita, we're now ready to open the lines for questions and answer.

(Operator Instructions) The first question today comes from Alex Twerdahl with Sandler O'Neill.

First off, just wanted to drill in a little bit to the margin guidance.

Is the primary driver of margin expansion in 2019, is that going to continue to be that transition from securities into loans as a mix of assets?

So there's a combination of elements going on.

As always, Alex, within the portfolio, one, is the fact that we think there's going to be a slowing of the rate of the increase in the Fed increases.

So it's going to give our loans that adjust -- more time to adjust quickly relative to the cost of funds.

Secondly, we're going to continue to change the mix of the assets as we've done in the past year and a half moving securities into loans.

That's certainly been very positive for us.

And then thirdly, what we've experienced in the last several months is the fact that the new loans being originated now exceed the rate of the loan -- the average rate of the loans on the balance sheet.

So new loans are almost always added to the overall rate.

So the mix is going to be pretty good for us I think.

And we're looking forward to 2019.

If I kind of ask the question slightly differently, the difference between a NIM at -- kind of the low end of that 3.25% and the high end at 3.35%.

Is that more of the difference between the amount of securities being transitioned at $110 million to $160 million?

Or is it more function of the rate environment.

And I think the market is assuming that we're not going to get any rate increases in 2019.

So assuming that's the case, kind of where -- where does that leave us shaking out for the year, towards the low end or towards the high end of that range?

Yes.

So if the only variable was the conversion of securities to loans, we could be a lot more accurate with our estimates, because it's highly predictable as to when those loans pay off, what type of amortization schedule they're on and redeployment rate.

So the real variable is what the Fed does and how that impacts cost of funds.

Okay.

So if I'm reading you correctly, without any further rate hikes in 2019, we could be closer to the high end of that range just because there won't be as much pressure on the funding costs?

I think that's a fair conclusion.

Okay, great.

And then can you give us just a little bit more color on the elevated charge-offs during the quarter?

It looked like they were in commercial and commercial real estate.

But maybe a little bit more detail on whether or not that was sort of one relationship or something further to read into?

There were 3 commercial loans that cycled through this quarter.

Prior to this quarter, commercial charge-offs were very low.

So on an annualized basis, it's in line with what we would expect.

Okay.

Were those loans previously in nonperforming?

Yes.

Okay.

And Alex, this is Bill Kreienberg.

We didn't see any -- there's no portfolio concentration, industry concentration, geographic concentration.

It was just a part of the commercial bucket.

Okay, great.

And then just final question for me.

Just kind of as you think about insurance revenues, it's obviously a relatively volatile line, on a quarter-to-quarter basis.

But on a year-over-year basis, kind of what's the sort of reasonable growth rate to assume for the overall insurance revenue, kind of, giving a couple of the dynamics you sort of mentioned when you took the goodwill impairment?

I think, Alex, what -- now that we've gone through a significant reorganization, we're very pleased with the way we've got the insurance agency structured and integrated with our bank.

We have reasonable and appropriate incentives in place for our customer cross-sell efforts between commercial, wealth management subsidiary, retail, et cetera.

So I think from a forecasting point of view, our consultant seems to advise, and what we think we're in line with is a growth rate of 3% to 6% at this particular point in our reorganization of our insurance subsidiary.

The next question comes from Joe Fenech with Hovde Group.

One of your competitors in Western New York last night reported a slowdown in net loan growth in the fourth quarter.

The reasons for that seems company specific.

And they said, they aren't seeing any change whatsoever in the overall market backdrop.

And your results, I think, would seem to back that up.

Is that a fair assessment that you aren't really seeing any marked change in the market in terms of demand characteristics or whatever it may be?

Joe, if I -- it's Bill Kreienberg.

I think one of the reasons that we believe that we're going to hit our guidance is that we're in a similar market as I think the competitor that announced yesterday.

But our commercial team still is expanding into relationships they had at prior institutions.

We feel we are well positioned now to attract real estate work in the Southern Tier of some significance.

But also, as you'll recall, we made a market announcement last September that we had retained and named a regional president in the Syracuse Central New York region.

Since her arrival, we've seen significant growth in that market.

And we believe that we're going to be able to get -- spread our growth instead of Buffalo and Rochester now into Central New York.

So that gives us confidence relative to the guidance we gave about high single-digit loan.

Appreciate that color, Bill.

I guess though -- is that -- so is the market share opportunity you feel like offsetting for you all specifically?

Offsetting a slow down?

Or you're not seeing the slow down?

You think the market is what it is?

And the market share opportunity is just going to amplify that?

I don't think from the pipeline we have that our commercial team has seen a slowdown.

I believe that we are being selective in our credit opportunities.

But our pipeline remains very robust.

Joe, smart (inaudible) would say that we really aren't seeing a change in the underlying market dynamics.

As I talked about in my comments, the attributes of disruption continue to play out.

It's very awkward in the markets that we're serving, large banks delivered locally, but there is still significant market share.

And as those customers consider their options, to deal with a company like ours that's local and is responsive and has capacity, they're -- we're seeing opportunity associated with that.

Okay.

That's helpful guys.

And then I noticed a different topic in the fourth quarter of last year, you also had an uptick in provision and charge-offs.

I know these are probably separate, different credits.

But is that coincidental?

Or is there's something about the fourth quarter from a cleanup perspective?

Or anything else that we should be aware of that maybe impacts credit disproportionately in the fourth quarter, just for future reference.

I think -- sorry, I was talking to Mike Grover.

I -- still -- I think if I recall, the fourth quarter last year, we put on a significant amount of loan growth in that particular quarter, which caused us to have provision relative to that significant loan growth in that quarter.

The charge-off, I think that we were referring to was one we had disclosed, I believe it was the Southern Tier relationship that was rolling through.

Yes, the commercial charge-offs tend to be lumpy.

It's not always in the fourth quarter.

But the last 2 years, it has been.

But I would say that's more coincidental than a seasonal trend.

I think if you roll back the clock 6 or 7 years, you'll find that we always have 1 quarter that's different than the other quarters.

And historically, it's actually been the first quarter versus the fourth quarter.

But the last 2 years, it happened to be the fourth quarter.

I think it's just coincidental more than anything else.

Okay.

And then your overall cost of funds is up 8 basis points.

That's the slowest pace of increase since -- I think the first quarter last year was up 14 basis points in the third quarter.

So your comments about the guidance for 2019.

Should we read that as may be we've already -- you're already seeing a slowing trajectory on deposit betas and what have you?

Or is your commentary, sort of, more Fed dependent.

I guess, a long winded way of asking, are you already seeing this trend or is it somethings that's -- that you're kind of still looking to the Fed, and the guidance is really more dependent on that?

Yes, it's more Fed dependent.

Clearly if the Fed follows its current pattern of raising rates every other quarter or I mean, every other quarter, that has one impact.

If you read the latest guidance by the Fed, it would indicate strongly that they may take a substantial pause that would have a different impact on our cost of funds.

Remember, we have about $400 million of wholesale borrowings.

That wholesale borrowing component has a beta of 1. So it -- our cost of funds is tied to the Fed actions.

Okay.

And then in terms of capital management, last one for me guys.

Appreciate that you guys seem to have gotten to the point where the internal capital generation is really able to support pretty strong loan growth and hold back TCE ratio pretty steady, just above 7%.

But given the decline in the stocks, I guess, sector-wide last month, including yours.

Do you feel like you have some flexibility to think about share repurchase?

Or is that -- or you're kind of right at the tipping point where you really don't want to see that TCE ratio decline much further?

Joe, we've talked a lot about -- with you and others.

And certainly the work we've done in terms of bolstering our capital position in 2017.

We feel really good about where our capital structure is today to support the outlook of our businesses and where we're driving our balance sheet to.

So that clearly would be above our pay grade anyway in terms of discussions with our board and the decision of our board.

But right now our focus is on leveraging the capital that we sourced.

And ultimately, continuing to grow it through the retention of earnings.

Okay.

And then lastly, Kevin, congratulations.

Best of luck in your retirement.

Enjoyed working with you.

Thank you.

And the feeling is mutual.

And I extend it out to everyone.

I see a number of names listed on the board here.

And it's been great working with all of you.

Thank you very much.

The next question comes from Damon DelMonte with KBW.

So first question.

Just wondering, if you guys could provide a little bit more color around what drove the commercial real estate growth this quarter?

Maybe was it construction driven?

Or owner occupied?

Nonowner occupied?

What were some of the trends this quarter?

Damon, it's a good question.

I don't know if we really have a trend.

I think it's a function of the talent we have acquired.

We've probably done lending type arrangements in all of the buckets that you just mentioned.

So we're not seeing preponderance in any one particular area.

We've had some significant opportunities all across the footprint.

Yes, I think that's exactly right, Damon.

We're taking advantage of all the types of solutions that can be delivered through a commercial real estate group.

And from my perspective, remains pretty balanced.

So a very high level of the balance sheet.

Our portfolio continues to be well-allocated amongst a lot of different types of loans, the C&I.

So CRE ratio is about 50-50.

And our small business continues to grow.

So we feel good about all parts of the portfolio.

Maybe I just ask a little differently.

I -- just wondering like, did you see a big increase in like owner occupied balances because you had construction loans that were drawn down on or paid off, I should say?

Or did you see an increase in construction because you had a lot of commitments out there and the borrowers were advancing projects?

Just trying to get a sense for what the dynamics across the market are?

Again, from our perspective, Damon, it's kind of just been the normal activity.

To the extent, we've had construction loans that mature, we underwrite those to stay on our balance sheet over the long term, if they're not tapping into take-ups by the debt capital markets.

And again, I would come back to Kevin's point of balance across the portfolio.

Yes, Damon, we don't have this particular level of detail with us to address on the call.

So I'll ask Shelly Doran to reach back out to you.

Okay.

Fair enough.

That's good.

And then with regards to the outlook into 2019, Kevin, could you just repeat what you were saying or -- that were the drivers going forward?

It is still just going to be primary commercial, C&I and CRE, that's the main drivers?

Or did you say consumer?

So we're focused on our relationship-based lending activities.

And so that's commercial across the spectrum that we're in, small business, C&I, CRE.

And as well continuing our theme of increasing our focus in investment in our residential lending activities.

Again, those all connect to driving fuller relationships characterized by the potential for deposits, insurance and wealth management.

That's generally been our focus.

And as we focus on and those categories continue to grow, our indirect will continue to float down as a percentage of total loans.

Okay, great.

And then lastly, could you just give an update on the mortgage banking operations?

I know you guys had made a bunch of hires in the back half of 2017.

We're -- they have a good full year under their belt right now?

Just kind of wondering what your view is on that group and the prospects in 2019?

Well, again, from our perspective the prospects remain bright.

And it's been an area of focus and opportunity for us.

And the production year-over-year is up.

The loan production that we're selling through to the secondary market is up.

And I've been pleased with the progress we're making.

Okay.

Great.

That's all that I had.

Kevin, congrats, and then best of luck.

It was enjoyable working with you.

Take care.

Thank you.

The next question comes from Matthew Breese with Piper Jaffray.

Covered a lot of ground.

I just have a few follow-ups.

What was the period in municipal deposit balance?

And could you comment on -- I think you said the increase balances helped the margin this quarter.

Could you quantify by how much?

So the municipal deposit base has been oscillating between about $1.1 billion and $900 million.

So it's about a little less than a $200 million swing.

At the end of December, it's at a low point.

But what's the most important consideration in analyzing that book is how it gets from the high point of September 30 to the low point of December 31.

And the way it works in the fourth quarter is those balances stay with us pretty much for the entire quarter except the last 15 days.

So we get the benefit of a relatively lower cost of fund through the vast majority of the quarter.

And that did have a positive impact on the margin by a couple 3 basis points.

And how does it trend in the first quarter?

And should we just think about the margin guide, expect maybe a little bit of a lag on the NIM before seeing expansion towards the guidance, in the midpoint of the year?

Is that a good way to...

Yes.

So the first quarter, it actually builds up fairly quickly.

We started to have tax receipts around January 15 through January 30.

And then February.

So we'll -- the first quarter is probably the choppiest quarter of all the quarters that we looked at.

But it's a slow build to a new high point on March 31.

Okay.

Switching topics a little bit.

I wanted to focus on SDN and the goodwill impairment charge.

How much goodwill tied to SDN is left on the book?

And I mean, are we effectively done with the impairments at this point?

So it's $7.9 million is the remaining goodwill on the books.

And naturally, we do an annual valuation of the company.

So would be impossible for us to predict the future.

What we do know is that we valued the company and reduced the goodwill to a level such that the value of the company is equal to the remaining value on the books of the institution.

So what happens going forward, Matt, that's impossible to predict.

Matt, I think -- it's Bill Kreienberg.

I think one of the things to chime in on Kevin's comment is for you to -- for us to determine the variability going forward.

When we bought the agency, the top 10 customers were about 30% of our revenue.

As part of this reorganization and some of the changes we've gone under, the top 10 customers now only comprise 15% of that agency revenue.

So we believe we've got stabilized -- we've stabilized the revenue stream.

We've refined and created a diligent process by which we have relationships with our bank partners in retail and commercial.

And we still have organic growth that the producer generate.

So we think we've got kind of a leveled out revenue stream going forward.

Okay.

And with the lost carriers, should we expect any difference in first quarter seasonality?

That revenue came in primarily the first, second and fourth quarters evenly.

Okay.

The other question I just wanted to or the other area I wanted to focus on was with such strong loan growth you're starting to see the loan-to-deposit ratio inch higher year-over-year.

And I just wanted to get a sense from where you're comfortable running the bank in terms of that ratio?

And at some point, do you put a [govern] on loan growth because of it?

So clearly, we have seen banks that regularly trade with the ratio of loans-to-deposits, at 100%.

As we go through each one of the round digit benchmarks, 90% being the next one on the agenda, we will have a discussion with our board relative to how we feel about that.

And probably be able to give better guidance in the future.

The bottom line is I know we're comfortable taking it up to 90%.

So that's clearly something we'll probably achieve in 2019.

I mean, Matt, generally speaking, we're comfortable where we are.

It actually reflects a significant amount of effort, the management intention and execution.

As we've been talking to you over the years of driving that ratio higher.

So we'll continue to evaluate it as we operate the business.

This concludes our question-and-answer session.

I would now like to turn the conference back over to Marty Birmingham for any closing remarks.

I think we've accomplished the exchange of information in the questions and answers.

So I want to thank everybody for their participation, and look forward to talking in our next quarterly call.

This conference has now concluded.

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