Fidelity National Information Services Inc (FIS) 2007 Q2 法說會逐字稿

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the second quarter FIS earnings call. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Later there will be an opportunity for questions and instructions will be given at that time. If you should require assistance during the call, please press star then zero. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I'll now turn the conference over to Vice President Investor Relations, Mary Waggoner. Please, go ahead.

Thank you, [Kathy], and good morning, everyone, joining me today to review our second quarter results and the pending acquisition of eFunds, are Bill Foley, Executive Chairman, Lee Kennedy, President and Chief Executive Officer and Jeff Carbiener, Chief Financial Officer. In addition to being recorded, this call is being audio cast live over the internet. Telephone replay information is included in today's press release and a replay will also be available on our website.

Our discussion will contain references to non-GAAP and pro forma results in order to provide more meaningful comparisons between the periods presented. As in the previous quarters, the 2006 and 2007 GAAP results presented in today's press release have been adjusted to improve compare ability. Reconciliations between GAAP and non-GAAP results in schedules showing historical detail are provided in today's press release which is also available on our website. The reconciling items include three statements to reflect the certainty and FIS combination as if the merger had occurred on January 1, 2006. The exclusion of merger, acquisition and integration costs, certain stock compensation and debt restructuring charges and the gain on the sale of Covansys stock.

Before we continue, I would like to remind you that some of the comments made on today's call will contain forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to the risks and uncertainties described in our earnings release and other filings with the SEC. The Company [excepts] or disclaims any duty to update or revise such forward-looking statements.

Now I will turn the call over to our Executive Chairman, Bill Foley.

Thanks, Mary. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. FIS reported another strong quarter with revenue growth of 15.1% and EBITDA growth of 10.9% driven by excellent performance in each of our business units. Our sales results have been outstanding and our pipeline remains strong. During the second quarter we sold 4.1 million shares of Covansys' stock at an average price of $33.30 per share. Pretax proceeds total 136.4 million and the after-tax gain was 58 million. In early July, we received the proceeds of 294 million for the remaining 6.9 million shares and 4 million warrants and an after tax gain of $100 million, which will be included in our third quarter results. Total pre-tax proceeds on Covansys transaction were 430 million and the after-tax gain is estimated at 197 million. The cash was used to pay down our existing credit facilities. Also during the quarter we completed the purchase of Applied Financial Technology, a provider of quantitative and predictive risk management analytics for the mortgage industry. AFT expands our presence in the secondary mortgage market and is a solid fit with our existing product line.

Now I'd like to take a few minutes to discuss our pending acquisition of eFunds. On Jun 27th, we announced that we had entered into a definitive agreement to acquire eFunds in an all cash transaction valued at approximately 1.8 billion or $36.50 per share. The transaction would be -- will be financed with approximately $1.6 billion of new debt. eFunds is a great fit for our company and will strengthen our competitive positions in risk management and electronic processing services. eFunds has a strong recurring revenue base, solid EBITDA margins and will generate excellent cross-selling opportunities. Our products and services are highly complimentary, particularly in the areas of debit, prepaid card processing and risk management services.

In addition, eFunds will increase our offshore BPO and Professional Services capabilities which should reduce future programming and back-office costs. The merger is subject to customary regulatory approvals and approval by eFunds shareholders. The Hart-Scott-Rodino was completed on July 10th, and the preliminary proxy was filed by eFunds yesterday, and we expect the transaction to close by the end of the third quarter. It was a good quarter for our company and we are pleased with our progress in increasing top line and bottom line organic growth rates.

Now, I'll turn the call over to Lee, who will provide more detail on the eFunds and the second quarter results.

Thank you, Bill, good morning everyone and thanks for joining us this morning. I'll begin with a few additional comments regarding our merger with eFunds, followed by review of second quarter results. I will conclude with an update on new customers signings and key initiatives. Jeff Carbiener will follow me with the detailed financial report.

As Bill mentioned, eFunds is a great strategic fit for our company. The combination will strengthen our competitive positions in several key businesses. eFunds, 4400 EFT, debit and ATM customers will increase the scale and broaden the product set of our E-payments business. The combination will also strengthen our debit switching, prepaid card, risk management, offshore programming and BPO outsourcing capabilities. eFunds leading prepaid product line fills a product gap for FIS domestically and internationally. Our prepaid card services are currently outsourced to a competitive third-party service provider.

The merger with eFunds will [alter] trade a broad range of strong new risk management products and services, particularly in the areas of new account openings, check clearing, and deposit verification services. eFunds 9,000 risk management customers are an excellent distribution channel for our new institution risk management products, that we discussed in our first quarter earnings call. We believe that eFunds comprehensive debit (inaudible) database can be leveraged to provide additional risk management capabilities that will generate strong value to our financial institutions and third party customers. Many of these risks, analytic product and services will be delivered through our core processing and TouchPoint platforms, which will reduce the institution's operating costs and improve the quality of service provided to its customer base. There is an excellent international market for eFunds debit, ATM, switching and prepaid card services, and these capabilities are a natural extension of our core processing and payment services product suites.

Finally, eFunds offshore BPO and professional services operations will add more scale and bench strength to our overseas operations. In addition to leveraging these resources of lower R costs, they will be made available to our customers, to enable them to take advantage of lowering outsourcing -- lower-cost outsourcing services. We expect to generate approximately $65 million in cost savings driven primarily by reductions in corporate overhead, technology, procurement and operational support. The staffing of our integration team is nearing completion. And the project plans for combining the two companies will be completed and in place prior to closing. We are committed to continue our highly successful track record of generating strong revenue and cost synergies from acquisitions, and we are pleased with our progress to date.

I'll now continue with the business review. We were very pleased to report another quarter of strong revenue and earnings growth. Consolidated second quarter revenue reached a record $1.2 billion, which is a 15.1% increase over prior year. The strong growth was driven by 16% growth in transaction processing services and 13.3% growth in lender processing services. Consolidated EBITDA increased 10.9%, and cash earnings per share came in at $0.59. Which is a 15.7% increase over prior year.

Transaction processing services excellent third quarter growth was driven by a 44.3% increase in our international business. And continued strong growth in IFF and EBS, lender processing services also generated excellent results. Overall LPS grew 13.3%, driven by double-digit growth in appraisal, default and title and settlement services. This is a significant accomplishment given the continued weakness of the U.S. mortgage market.

New sales also remain strong across all business channels. Yesterday we announced a new seven-year home equity line processing agreement with Wachovia, the nation's fourth largest bank. Under the agreement we'll process Wachovia's 2 million-plus home equity and second mortgage loans on our MSP processing platform. We will also provide home equity card processing services which will enable Wachovia's customers to access home equity credit lines with a credit card. This is a great competitive win for our company, which further demonstrates our ability to leverage technology, products, services, and most importantly sales resources across business unit lines.

At our recent investor day we discussed the challenges that home equity lenders are facing and described how our MSP platform would help solve them. Wachovia represents a significant pioneering step in penetrating this large, untapped, growing market. Wachovia is one of our largest customer relationships, and we believe we have a significant opportunity to provide additional products and services that will improve their operating efficiencies and increase the level of service that they provide to their customers.

The demand for mortgage information services also remains strong. Driven by an accelerating trends towards outsourcing default and appraisal services. During the quarter, we signed new default service agreements with several leading lenders. We also completed an exclusive agreements which provides additional outsource appraisal services to one of the top five banks in the country. This is also a big win for our company. And, once again, we proved that we can provide outsource appraisal services to large lenders at a lower cost base and with a very high level of accuracy and independence which is very important for large lenders in this day and era.

Our domestic and international banking businesses also generated strong new sales. In UBS we continued the implementation of several channel solution products at one of the nation's largest banks. We are pleased to announce that Bank of the West and BCP Peru will install several TouchPoint channel applications. BCP, the largest bank in Peru, will implement a wide range of TouchPoint platforms including, teller, new account opening and sales and servicing. BCP will also install our express integration software which provides realtime connectivity between the bank's customer TouchPoints and it's core processing system. In short, we will provide the technology and professional services to connect and integrate every service application that the bank is currently operating.

We are also pleased with the strong growing demand for our realtime profile core banking system. During the quarter, we completed a new agreement with a leading international retailer, and expect to sign two large direct banks in the very near future. We also signed an eight-year contract with a leading bank in Australia for [credit] card processing services, and Lloyds Bank for commercial loan processing services in its affiliates throughout Europe. [ISS] also achieved excellent sales results, particularly in card processing, royalty, and item processing services. During the quarter, we signed a large [multi-cross-sell] agreement with Marion & Polks Schools Federal Credit Union, which is a leading federal credit union located in the state of Florida. We will provide a broad range of integrated card processing loyalty and EFT services.

On June the 23rd, we successfully converted more than 1 million BB&T credit cards to our new base 2000 card platform, on schedule and on budget. BB&T which is the nation's twelfth largest bank and our largest domestic card processing customer represents our initial entry into the domestic mid-tier card market. And it is one of our most significant cross-sell wins. The BB&T conversion was a large project involving over 100 FIS technology and operating people personnel. I want to thank our entire conversion team for the outstanding job that they did to converting this important strategic customer.

Before turning the call over to Jeff, I will provide a brief update on King International products and initiatives. Begin with our item processing business in Brazil, the implementation of our new image-based processing system is proceeding as planned. It remains on schedule. I am pleased to report that this business reached break-even in the second quarter.

Turning to our card processing joint venture. At the request of [ABN Ambro], we will delay the conversion of it's credit card portfolio by approximately six months to allow ABN to complete the integration of (inaudible) bank which was acquired in 2003. We now expect to complete the ABN Ambro and Bradesco portfolio conversions by mid-2008 to accommodate ABN's request. We do not expect the six-month delay to materially impact profitability for 2007 and 2008. Our existing Brazilian card business is generating stronger than expected organic growth, which should compensate for the slight delay in the conversion schedule.

In summary, we are pleased with our second quarter results and the strong performance by each of our business units. The acquisition of eFunds is an exciting opportunity for our company which should generate solid growth opportunities and strengthen our product and service offerings. We will provide additional informational on the closing date and integration plans as soon as it is practical to do so.

That concludes my second quarter review, and I'll now turn it over to Jeff for the financial report. Jeff.

Thanks, Lee, and good morning. Today I'll focus on the key performance drivers and metrics for the quarter beginning with revenue growth. As Lee mentioned second quarter consolidated revenue increased 15.1% over prior year, driven by 16% growth in PPS and 13.3% growth in LPS. The 16 point -- the 16% increase in PPS revenue, was driven by strong growth in [EBS] and (inaudible) tests, and another quarter of exceptionally strong growth in international. International revenue increased 44.3% to 143.3 million driven by very strong results in card processing, particularly in Brazil, strong core bank sales across EMEA, Asia-Pacific and the western hemisphere countries and revenues from our Brazilian card processing operation. Excluding revenue from Brazil BPO, international grew 22.3%. As we've discussed on prior calls, while we are very pleased with these results, we believe the growth in 10 to 12% range excluding the Brazil BPO and card processing operations is a more sustain level.

The revenue growth in the second half of the year will also be impacted by the revised card conversion mentioned by Lee and modifications to one of our BPO customer contracts which will reduce revenue expenses that certain pass through costs will now be paid for directly by the client. IFS revenue increased 9.1% to 297.1 million in the quarter, fueled by growth across multiple product lines with the strongest contributions coming from item processing, credit card service and E-business, which includes ATM and EFT processing, as well as online banking services. EPS revenues increased 11% to 270.1 million driven by continued strong demand for channel solutions, commercial loan processing and outsource technology services. We are pleased with the overall growth in TPS during the quarter and contributions of each of our market segments.

Lender processing revenues increased 13.3% to 462.5 million, driven by 20.3% growth in information services and 4.5% growth in mortgage processing services. The $11 million decline in LPS other revenue represents the December 31, 2006, divestiture of a majority interest in (inaudible). We continue to experience excellent growth in the fall which is the strongest contributor to the 20.3% growth rate in mortgage information services. The accelerated growth rate in the second quarter was driven primarily by the increased appraisal volumes from a number of customers including a substantial increase in market share from one of the nation's largest banks. We also experienced double-digit growth in title and supplement services, which was driven by increased volumes from a number of our larger customers as well as the greater percentage of orders coming from higher revenue generating traditional title products.

Mortgage processing revenue was 97.3 million the second quarter of 2007, which was a 4.5% increase over prior year. The number of the loans processed increased 3.9% to 28.6 million. We're meeting all project deadlines and remain on budget for the conversion offer the Chase Mortgage portfolio in 2008. The bank has recently confirmed a first quarter implementation date for a portion of the portfolio and the remaining loans will be converted six months later. We're scheduled to complete the conversion of the Wachovia home equity portfolio by mid-2008.

Moving on to EBITDA. Consolidated EBITDA increased 10.9% to 299.6 million, while the consolidated EBITDA margins was 25.5%, compared to 26.4% in the prior year quarter. TPS EBITDA increased 16.3% driven by strong growth in IFS and EDS and the TPS EBITDA margin was 24.2% compared to 24.1% in the second quarter of 2006. While it did generate leverage on new sales in all TPS channels during the quarter, three factors impacted margins during the quarter. First, higher costs from the check division, including estimated communication costs associated with the previously announced data set. Second, Brazil BPO, which did break even from EBITDA standpoint during the quarter, but still reduced total TPS margins. And, third, a difficult comparison in international excluding Brazil as the prior year quarter included a number of high margin license sales. These three factors, most of which are non-recurring, combined to reduce TPS margins by over 200 basis points during the quarter.

Lender Processing Services EBITDA increased 5.4% compared to the second quarter of 2006. On a sequential basis the LPS EBITDA margins improved 70 basis points to 32.2%, driven by leverage from strong revenue growth in default services and stringent cost management which improved the tax services margins. Lower volumes in tax and property exchange combined with a significant increase in lower margin appraisal volumes continue to impact year-over-year margin comparisons. The impact of the increase in lower margin appraisal revenues, actually drove approximately 70% of the [250] basis point decline in year-over-year LPS margins. The corporate expense totaled 21 million compared to 18.8 million in the second quarter of 2006. The increase is attributable to a $4 million increase in stock option expensing, which was partially offset by (inaudible) [deficiencies].

Turning to cash earnings. Cash earnings which we define as net income plus after tax purchase amortization, total ed 115.3 million or $0.59 per diluted share which is a 15.7% increase over the prior year quarter. The increase was driven primarily by the strong growth in operating profits and the lower effective tax rate. The increase was partially offset by a 4.7 million decrease and after-tax purchase amortization to 23.9 million compared to 28.6 million in the second quarter of 2006. Approximately 2.2 million in pretax charges were incurred in the second quarter, in conjunction with the migration of the (inaudible) Data Center for Little Rock. These costs are substantially complete and no longer will be reported separately.

Moving on to free cash flow. Free cash flow, which we define as net income, plus depreciation and amortization, less capital expenditures was 125 million during the quarter compared to 101 million during the second quarter of 2006. Capital expenditures totaled 79.9 million, which was in line with our expectation. The uses of free cash flow during the quarter included, debt paydowns of 185 million, acquisitions totaling 45 million, a 13 million earn-out for the 2004 Bankware acquisition and 9.6 million in shareholder dividends. Also, as Bill mentioned, we received pretax proceeds of 430 million, for the Covansys shares. 136 million of which was received in the second quarter.

We had a net 37 million use of working capital during the second quarter, due to the impact of the higher than anticipated revenue growth of 15% continued strong growth in default services for which we received payment for many of the services upon sales of foreclosed properties, and acquisition related activity including payment of the previously mentioned $13 million earn-out. At quarter end we had approximately 221 million in cash, and recourse debt of 2.76 billion net of the 185 million paid out.

I'll conclude with a few comments about our outlook for the remainder of the year. Revenue and EBITDA growth for the first six months of 2007, totaled 14.1%, and 12.4% respectively, which is higher than our full-year guidance. Given this strong start to the year, and a solid [EBITDA] pipeline, we are raising our full year revenues guidance to growth of 9 to 11%. Our revenue assumptions take into account annualization of the WAMU appraisal and Brazil BPO revenues which both began service in the third quarter of 2006. The previously mentioned changes to Brazil BPO (inaudible) revenues which will reduce consolidated revenue growth by 40 to 50 basis points. A more sustainable growth rate of 10 to 12% in our international businesses, excluding Brazil, the new conversion schedule for the Brazil card portfolios and slightly more difficult comparisons for default services growth rate which exceeded 50% in the first half of the year.

We still anticipate that EBITDA growth will approach the high end of our previously communicated range of 10 to 12% and also reiterating our guidance for cash earnings per share of $2.47 to $2.53 per share, based on average outstanding shares of 196 million. Our pursuit of strategic acquisition, influenced stock buy backs during the first half of the year, however, we do anticipate that stock repurchases of up to 100 million before year end. Our guidance excludes the impact of the eFunds acquisition, which is expected to be neutral to 2007 cash earnings per share and accretive to cash earnings per share in 2008. We will provide additional guidance regarding eFunds transaction, once we have completed the integration plan, finalize the financing terms, completed our analysis of purchase accounting entries and determined the amount of the estimated purchase amortization.

Now, I'll turn it back to Lee.

Thanks, Jeff. Again, thanks for joining us this morning. Operator, we're now ready to field questions.

Thank you. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) We'll go first to the line of Kartik Mehta with FTN Midwest, please, go ahead.

Good morning. I want to ask you a little bit about the eFunds acquisition. As you looked at your customers that you currently have, were they asking for a products that eFunds has to offer? What I'm trying to get to, is that going to make a cross sale easier to accomplish with the eFunds acquisition?

I think there has always been a high demand for eFunds products and services, especially as it relates to debit switching, debit card processing, prepaid card services. Keep in mind that we have not traditionally owned and operated our own prepaid card capabilities. We've always outsourced those to a third party. And because of that we really haven't actively pushed the product even though there has been strong demand. I think both domestically and internationally our customers have asked us for the products that eFunds has in place, and we do believe that by picking up those products and integrating those products into our core processing capabilities where practical, we will create a very strong demand and it will be high cross-sell opportunities. So across the board, absolutely.

What would you say the organic growth for the--for eFunds is as you look at the Company the way it is structured now?

They have had a lot of noise in their numbers because of acquisition activity and divestiture activity and also, certain contracts that were bound to exit once they spun off from deluxe. But if you strip all that activity out, their organic growth rate over the last 3 years has been around 6%.

Jeff, I'm assuming that you believe that that organic growth you will be able to improve that organic growth because of the cross-sale opportunities that present themselves.

I think what we've said is we still have a lot of work to do to nail down the 2008 numbers but we don't think that including eFunds in our results will make us back off our prior communications on growth for 2008. There is some pretty good strong upside, once we get the two companies put together and the sales organizations integrated, so, yes.

And one last question on that. Lee, you said that you would get out of a prepaid contract you have with a third party. I'm assuming that obviously will save you money as you bring that in-house. Would you have included that in 65 million in savings or is that potential upside to savings?

No, we really view at on the sales side. I think it's going to generate incremental revenue opportunities and strong cross-selling, but it is not included in the 65 million that we've disclosed and discussed.

Thank you very much.

You're very welcome.

We have Paul Bartolai with Credit Suisse. Please, go ahead.

Good morning, just a follow up on eFunds, I know you got something you guys are still going through the plan, but any possibility of some sense of the timing of the cost savings, and perhaps, I know with this Certegy merger, you guys, to some extent try quantify some of the cost and opportunity, any chance of any more color on those issues?

We'll be a little bit more clear once we complete the integration plans and that will happen gradually over the next few weeks. Once we get the time frame better defined, we'll come back and we'll give you when we think we're going to generate the cost savings and the revenue list. I think it is safe to say we'll go after it aggressively like with Certegy. So, just keep in mind the progress and success we had with Certegy and I see no reason why we can't duplicate those efforts with eFunds.

Okay. Fair enough, and just switching to, some of the revenue growth in TPS, obviously a nice pick up in IFS and enterprise. I think in the past you quantified some of the cross-sell success you had. Is that the key driver that you saw there? And any chance to quantify any of the success you've had?

On the IFS side we just continue to do -- high level of cross level of activity and success, led by loyalty programs being cross-sold into the existing customer base, card processing programs growing at a very strong rate. In-processing programs at a very strong rate. So it has pretty much been the same as in the past, a lot of good product activity and across the board. On the EBS side, really TouchPoint application and work that we're doing. Big strong demand for that. Big strong projects that are going on as we speak, and that has driven a lot of that increase. I'll give you a few numbers on the IFS side so you see the strength. Last year we talked about the new contract and the new sales and the contract value that was generated from those sales, and we had record quarters, quarter in, quarter out, if you look at where we sit year to date, we've generated about, I think, 304 million in total contract value this year. That compares to last year's record year of 257 million in total contract value signed during the first six months. So we're 18% up on prior year which was already a strong year. If you look at that 304 million it is a very good balance between sales of item processing solutions, eBusiness solutions, card costing solutions and core. That is really the case in all of our businesses. If anything at all, the rate of success in selling and cross selling products and services and selling existing products into the marketplace has accelerated. It has not decelerated. So looking out into the future, we're in a really good position to continue this growth rate.

Okay. Great. Switching to margins. You guys mentioned some of the issues in TPS. Given what's going on, it seems like we should still expect to see a pretty nice acceleration in the back half especially with issues with Brazil spending, declining into profitability ramping up there. Is that fair?

That's fair. Many of the factors we talked about there, such as difficult comp in international and one-time costs (inaudible), those are no-recurring, we expect to go back to a state of margin expansion in TPS or greater margin expansion in TPS in Q3 and 4.

Can you just clarify, Jeff, the comment you made about, did you say the total impact from those factors you mentioned was 200 basis points?

Yes, a little bit over 200 basis points, split roughly equally between each of those three [factors].

Thank you.

Your next question is from Julio Quinteros with Goldman Sachs.

Great, hi, guys. Real quickly, can you just line up the portfolio conversions that are still sort of on deck if you wouldn't mind just repeating a couple of those from, I guess, starting with the Brazilian situation and kind of going forward through 2008.

Sure. We have two major conversions still remaining in Brazil. All the programming associated with those conversions are on schedule and on track. The first conversion that will take place will be ABN Ambro, the second follows shortly thereafter by Bradesco, that will occur throughout 2008, and we'll have it completed by the end of the year. Most of the business will be on board at that time. In addition to (inaudible), the Chase conversion we have completed the programming for Chase, essentially. We're ready to go and waiting for their clearance. They have given us a start date where their sub prime portfolios will move and be converted in early 2008 followed by the prime conversion, which will take place I think in the third quarter of 2008. So every major conversion associated with the large amount of new sales that took place last year, and keep in mind we had about $3 billion in new sales in total contract value, that were affected last year, are on schedule, on budget, and will achieve the quality results that we want. Wachovia, that will be mid-2008, and we've already initiated and put together the work plans, and we're working on that conversion as we speak.

I'm sorry, just on the ABN Ambro, is there a time frame for that one?

Probably mid-first quarter of 2008.

Okay. Okay. Got it. And then just going back to the offshore BPO comments you made following the eFunds acquisition, what is the expected offshore head count that you guys will have?

We pick up about 3500 offshore resources by adding in eFunds. Again, that should allow -- and we've talked a lot about margin expansion within FIS, and it depended on or relying on the fact that we're going to be able to off shore a lot of those resources within LPS that are data entry and function and this will allow us to accelerate (inaudible) much broader base.

What is the current head count? Sorry?

Current headcount, about 2,000.

2,000. 2,000 plus another 3500?

That also gives us capability operating offshore call centers which we really clearly we don't have in place today. It is an extension of the type of service offering we've had in the past, too.

So you'll have total of 5500 including eFunds?

That's correct.

Great. Thank you.

Your next question is from Dave Koning with Robert W. Baird. Go ahead, please.

Good morning and nice results. I was wondering in the lender services division, is it fair to expect a little bit of deceleration in the second half, just given some of the commentary around Countrywide and you mentioned a little tougher default comparison going forward, but then to see a little acceleration again in the first half of '08 as you anniversary that divestiture from last year.

The pipeline that we have out and the contracts that we almost have done, if they come in within the next 30 to 60 days, we're not going to see a marked deceleration in that business at all. It is very, very strong. We expected to continue to be good driven by the new sales pipeline that we have out there.

To be realistic, though, we did have a very large contract with that WAMU contract, that was contributing about 1.5% almost close to 2% now to our over all consolidated growth rates but those age out the second half of the year.

Yes. That will age out.

And then just secondly, you mentioned a lot about your -- the India BPO capabilities. There is some public companies now that have spun out of captive organizations that aren't too much bigger than what you're soon going to have. Would that ever be a thought that you would--that you would start taking work from other--from other companies and then eventually spin out and monetize that asset?

The plan is that we have in front of us is to make those resources available to our customer base. So that they can leverage resources and generate lower costs. So that is the first step. I think at this point in time that the objective and the reason why we bought into those operations was to provide capability that we would control in-house for our own efforts and our own projects. We have to wait and see down the road what that means, if it's anything above and beyond that. Currently we want the resources focused on our projects and to help us get costs out of our operations which they will enable us to do clearly.

That's great. Thank you.

You're welcome.

And next we have Greg Smith with Merrill Lynch. Go ahead, please.

Hi, guys. With regards to the 8K this morning and this issue with the stolen records, can you provide us an update where we stand with this and just where we can get comfortable that this is an isolated incident that you'll move past and won't obviously be something that recurs?

What I would say is that the 8K update was simply an update on the number of records we see. The facts and circumstances around the occurrence have not changed, it remains a single employee who had access at a very high level to data, remains isolated to that one employee, stealing data from us. The distribution network that was utilized by that employee remains the same, very, very limited. The uses of the data remain the same, strictly for marketing purposes. We've confirmed on every account identified that there is no fraud and even with the higher record counts we feel this has not had a material impact on our financial statements. The only thing that has happened, as the parties that have been identified proceeds through the investigation, they have identified a few additional records within their databases. That is what they're in the process of doing. As they identify additional records we're going through the same process we communicated before, which is to notify the customers and talking through what their options are.

Okay. Good. On eFunds is there any specific revenue cannibalization that you see, that you know may be revenue that could potentially go away?

We've identified, as you always do with acquisitions, a few accounts that we want to -- we consider to be somewhat higher risk, but we factor those into the numbers, and the good news is that been calling us on those accounts, we have a real good shot at keeping them. So we'll let you know more about that as we get a little bit deeper into it, but there is not going to be, we believe, big surprise or swings in the numbers one way or another versus the way we viewed it when we put this deal together.

Lee, you talked about, I think you said you talked about going after the mid-tier card processing market given your success with BB&T. Is this something you are going to go aggressively after. It seems like it is offered penetrated so everything amounts to be a take away.

It is penetrated. Obviously, you've got a couple processors out there that have all the share. The good news is that we've been able to leverage some of our existing relationships and tie the card processing service into that relationship and cross-sell that product. So we'll continue to do that. We're out in front of all of our customers going through the product range that we have and we expect to be able to pick up additional business as we move into the future. We also think there is a really good strong opportunity to pick up additional [sheet loss] credit card processing and provide those services to [sheet loss] mortgage institutions that we service on the mortgage side. So there is a good combination there, some good lift there, and by having a consolidated package it makes enormous sense for an institution to buy from one organization.

Your platforms are largely built and operating. So incremental customers that you bring on you wouldn't require significant development expense. Is that correct?

They come on with relatively high leverage and really good margins, so the answer is no on that one.

One last quick expense. Was the stock comp expense in the quarter higher than what you had originally anticipated?

No, it was pretty much right on what we had anticipated.

It is just up from the prior year.

Little over 8 million.

Thanks, a lot, guys.

You're welcome.

We'll go next to Andrew Jeffrey with Robinson, go ahead.

Good morning, to drill down a little bit more, Lee, I mean, clearly resurging performance in the community banks this quarter, could you talk a little bit about how much of that improved organic revenue growth is coming from market share? And then market share gains? And also whether or not there's any cyclical or counter-cyclical component to community bank processing spend, or would you expect demand to be pretty consistent through the cycle?

Well, to answer the first question, notice that the revenue that's generated through cross selling additional products and services to our existing customer base, is well over 65% of our new revenue comes from those sources. But yet when you look at our customer base, the penetration of products to customer is still very, very low and the runway that we have for new sales extends our for a long period of time. So if we do nothing more than continuing to hit home runs or singles by selling additional products, then we're going to do very, very well with that. We are picking up market share from some of our competitors within select product lines, but that is not what is driving the lion's share of the revenue lift that we had in IFS.

One of the things that is so attractive about the eFunds purchases, yes, there's probably some revenue cannibalization that will occur but the bottom line is, we gain access into 9 to 10,000 new institutions that we can take pick up multi-card (inaudible) and sell deeper into. Our success is selling into existing relationships with new products (inaudible).

The nice thing about the community bank and credit union market is that it really isn't cyclical at all. Very little cyclicality. As you know, we've been involved in that business for close to -- that market for over 30 years and we have never experienced big swings geared and tied back to the state of the economy. So that is a good, strong protective market. It is very predictable and it's very stable.

If I look at your performance on a cross-sell basis and an organic revenue growth base, at least this quarter, high single digits compared to your biggest competitor, you're clearly outperforming. Do you attribute that to more consistent sales force structure, better execution, better products or is it combination thereof?

I think it is a combination. Keep in mind that when we put Certegy together with FIS, we concentrated on a number of things that we thought would accelerate the growth rate of that business, starting with integrating the sales force right out of the chute. We have one sales organization that represents all of the product that we carry. We have team specialists that are assembled around that sales organization to provide the product information, leverage relationships the right way. We have strong accountability and that has given us a significant lift.

But in addition to that, we also gained some really strong traction and strong competitive positions by taking the steps necessary to integrate a lot of these product capabilities and integrate them into our core processing systems. We're still the only provider of payment services and core processing capabilities that is able to offer these to an institution on an integrated basis. It cuts the cost to the institution and increases the level of services to the customers that they serve. There is a couple of different things. There's product capability, it's a wider range, it's an integrated capability, it's an integrated sales team. So there's three or four factors that have played into this that have really given us the lift that we generated.

One more quick one if I may, just turning attention to the big bank market. Do you still foresee meaningful core upgrade cycle and any new competitors in that market with which you're going to have to contend?

The activity level that we're currently experiencing in core system replacement is stronger than it has ever been. More and more of the banks are looking at replacing their core processing systems with new technologies that drive down the expense and give them a more flexible platform and our profile or our core processing system does that very thing. Where you have a few of the largest banks in the country currently doing tests on it and studying the flow and the output and the efficiency ratios, so, yes, if anything at all, that has moved up considerably. The demand for TouchPoint applications and our express applications, is very, very strong. The pipeline is very full and a lot of the revenue lift that we had over the past quarter or two, has been generated directly from those products and those capabilities. We're getting good traction and we're getting good lift. So we think both of those products are winners and the new product in the future clearly will be (inaudible) and online core processing system.

Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

We'll go now to Jim Kissane of Bear Stearns. Please go ahead.

Jeff, can you give us the general margin trends for the different businesses in the two segments, especially lender, for example, mortgage processing margins up year-to-year?

Yes, mortgage processing margins were up slightly. I'm not going into each of the components. What I'll say is, when you look again at the overall margin comparison versus prior year, the [30/2/2] versus the [30/4/7] in the prior year, most of that degradation is just simply business mix, the fact that we have much better quarter than we anticipated in appraisal, and appraisal is just a lower margin business, it's going to run in the min-teens margin and that's it because you have to pay the appraisers. That really is the single biggest asset that impacted margins. The product lines that we did some expansion in, yes, in mortgage, yes, in default, those are the two biggest. We still have some negative impacts from our tax business associated with the declining volumes that we talked about over the last two quarters, but the one thing that I'll say is that the impact in Q2 on tax and margins we about half what it was in the first quarter, so we continue to see that piece of business improve as we're able to get costs out and we get easier comps.

I think you touched on it but I think I missed it, just the working capital last quarter was a bit of a drag. Did that reverse this quarter?

No, it didn't, but what I would point to is the primary factors, the fact that we had said we expected to start see it turning around. We also had a revenue expectation that was closer to the 10 to 11% range. We exceeded all our expectation on revenue growth by 5%. You apply that to the overall revenue base that is about a 50 to 60 million of incremental revenue which is going to drop about 30 million to increased receivables. That's a good thing, the fact that we're growing faster than we thought and using up a little bit more working capital. That's probably the biggest factor that changed from the guidance that we gave all last period.

For the full year, bottom line free cash flow is still tracking your expectations?

Based on our revenue growth expectations for the second half of the year we don't expect to see further working capital drains and we should start to see some of the positive moves that we talked about last quarter.

Last one, just, ex-Brazil, can you give us some sense on the growth in international revenue?

Ex-Brazil, BPO, it was at 22% growth rate, again, that came from both our processing -- our card processing -- our card processing side and from the core banking side which each grew more than 20%.

Excellent. Thanks.

Your next question is from Peter Heckmann with A.G. Edwards. Please go ahead.

Morning, could you talk about the organic growth rates for revenue excluding currency, and I think what, a couple small acquisitions and maybe the small divestiture?

Very small impact. Rounds out to about 14.9%. We've got positives from these small acquisitions, we've got the takes from things like the [fin RES] sales we had at the end of last year. And then, currency, currency had about a probably about a 5 to 6% impact on international revenues which translates to a small impact on overall organic growth rates.

That helps in size and acquisitions. Can you discuss the current debt markets and talk about the eFunds financing, whether you have committed terms in place, still working on those and talk about the existing debt and how much we've been able to fix through swaps.

I'll start with the existing debt. We've been able to fix about 1.2 billion of our debt. We've fixed the LIBOR Reg on that debt and so we have about 40% of our term on our revolver fix. We also have our 200 million Certegy bonds, that are actually fixed at 4.75%, so in total we have well over half of our debt fixed, which is a good thing.

Looking forward to the financing, currently what our plan is and we are in the middle of negotiating final terms, what we're looking to do is to amend our current facilities and we'll have to make some changes, obviously with those amendments. Some of the principal things we're talking about right now is the addition of security, of the allowance of 2.1 billion of additional debt, some changes to min and max [coverage] ratio and we need to add a new pricing tier because we're priced on fixed on a leverage basis. Additionally right now we're going after a 1.6 billion new seven-year senior secured term (inaudible) [facility] which we expect to be able to price out at LIBOR plus 150.

Great. And then just the last question. In terms of on the eFunds business, combining some of there expertise and check verification and guarantee, can you talk about the share you'll have in that business when combining with Certegy?

That's really not going to alter the share all that much. They're really in a different market. They provide pretty much their only verification services and we don't provide that currently in a big way within the Certegy operation. So, it's not going to swing it all that much.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

Thank you, we have a question from Tien-Tsin Huang with JPMorgan, please go ahead.

Thanks, Jeff. I think you gave the new sales growth number for TPS at 18%. Can we get the same metric for [linear] processing?

Sorry, new sales at 18%.

You mentioned new sales growth or total contract value was up 18%, I didn't quite catch what exactly that was for.

Correct. That was strictly for the IFS group, about 304 million in total contract value in the first six months versus about 250 to 257 or so in the prior year.

Can you comment broadly on new sales growth for both of the divisions?

Well, I think when you're looking at our growth rates from the standpoint looking at LPS, a lion's share of our growth is driven by market share gains. I mean, you got to look at the dynamics you're dealing with within the lender processing industry. We're dealing with organic volume growth -- degradation. You're not seeing increases in origination or refinance activity. So our growth is really being driven by increasing share in areas like appraisal, where as we mentioned, we got additional volumes from one of the nation's's largest bank as well as from a number of other customers that have started to push more market customers towards us as their margins get (inaudible) and they're looking for lower cost alternatives. I can give you that story across all of the product lines. So when you look at (inaudible) it's pretty much all from taking share. Other than default where we are get some lift from the increase in that foreclosure rate. If you look at it this way, organic growth rate when we first launched the company was between 4 to 5%. So it's pretty safe in assuming that the incremental growth that we've had is all from taking share from our competition or getting additional volumes from the existing customer base that we service. So we've had some really good strong sales success in each and every business. Three billion last year and the run rate this year is very considerable also.

Okay. I definitely commend you for that. I remember that from the Certegy days in terms of new sales productions.

Thank you.

On the lender margins, I know you gave some detail there but just to clarify. Given the strength in the lower margin appraisal work should we expect lender margins to stay in this 24 or 25% range for the balance of the year, or do we have more cost cutting initiatives that have yet to hit the P&L

We have a number of factors, you have cost cutting initiatives, we have talked about those in prior calls. We're trying to right-size our head count in divisions where we have volumes that are decreasing. When we've given guidance before, on (inaudible) and margins, we said that our goal for 2007 was to bring in margins at or maybe slightly above the 2006 level. But the caveat, that is subject to changes in business mix. And clearly, in Q2, with the growth in appraisal being higher than we expected we had a business fix issue that's going to bring margins down, like we said, 70% of the drag on Q2 margins was due to appraisal. That being said, we do expect to see sequential -- continued sequential quarter on quarter growth in LPS margins through the rest of the year. Based on cost cutting initiatives, based on the age out of that WAMU appraisal deal that we've talked about before, various things.

Keep in mind that $50 million in cost savings that we picked up over the last year or so were directly related to the Certegy integration efforts and merger. There is still a considerable amount of cost takeout that we have in our company that we're currently working on, and hopefully over the next year or so, we will be able to reduce our cost base pretty significantly in some of our areas, such as technology, procurement and also in the eFunds area as we integrate that company.

The one thing I would say too, you've got to keep in mind, considering the industry we're operating in on the lender side, the fact we're able to carry consistent quarter on quarter 30% EBITDA margins is a very good story.

Got you. Two more other quick questions. Applied Financial Technology, that acquisition, what was the annual run rate of that business, in revenue?

It is less than 0.5% of overall growth.

About 10 million.

So it is small. Then, lastly, CapEx and the update on guidance for this year and next as well? That would be helpful, thanks.

We're going to still trend towards the 300 that we told the market. We said next year we felt we could achieve 250 and those numbers stand. We're not changing those.

Terrific. Thank you.

You're welcome.

Operator, we have time for one more question.

That will come from Brad [Hawpe] with Stephens Incorporated. Please, go ahead.

Good morning, everybody. On the -- you had talked about the $100 million buy back is that contemplated in your guidance or not? I forget.

Yes. We recontemplated just a little under 100 million in our guidance.

Okay. And then can you just explain again at a high level for me with this great revenue growth why not increase guidance on the EPS line?

Well, we've guided revenue growth. We said that we ran in the 14.1% range, we guided down to 9 to 11. We've given you the factors that bring you down into the high single-digits. The (inaudible) major contracts. We then stepped in and said we do expect to increase margins as we move through the remainder of the year but it is on a lower revenue growth rate. So, we're basically coming in fairly close to expectations, on our EBITDA expectations, which then flows down to the bottom line. One of the things that does impact your EPS guidance is that we're running at a higher share count than anticipated, than we had anticipated when we gave guidance at the beginning of the year which is having a negative impact.

Last question is the corporate SG&A -- or the SG&A ex-corporate went up sequentially. What was the driver of that?

I'll give it in total. You're going to see some variance on that, but I mean we've been maintaining between 10 and 11% from an SG&A percentage standpoint pretty consistently over the last few quarters, and I think it will stay within that range, but you'll see some variability.

Great, that's all I had, thank you.

You're welcome.

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