Fair Isaac Corp (FICO) 2014 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon.

  • My name is Tanya, and I'll be your conference operator today.

  • At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Fair Isaac Corporation quarterly earnings call.

  • (Operator Instructions) Steve Weber, you may begin your conference.

  • Steve Weber - VP-IR

  • Thank you, Tanya.

  • Good afternoon, and thank you for joining FICO's second quarter earnings call.

  • I am Steve Weber, vice president of Investor Relations, and I am joined today by our CEO, Will Lansing, and our CFO, Mike Pung.

  • Today we issued a press release that describes financial results compared to the prior year.

  • On this call, management will also discuss results in comparison to the prior quarter in order to facilitate understanding of the run rate of our business.

  • Certain statements made in this presentation may be characterized as forward-looking under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

  • Those statements involve many uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.

  • Information concerning these uncertainties is contained in the Company's filings with the SEC, in particular, in the Risk Factors and Forward-Looking Statements portions of such filings.

  • Copies are available from the SEC, from the FICO website, or from our Investor Relations team.

  • This call will also include statements regarding certain non-GAAP financial measures.

  • Please refer to the Company's earnings release and Regulation G schedule issued today for a reconciliation of each of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measure.

  • The earnings release and the Regulation G schedule are available on the Investor Relations page of the Company's website at fico.com, or on the SEC's website at sec.gov.

  • A replay of this webcast will be able through April 24, 2015.

  • Now, I'll turn the call over to Will Lansing.

  • Will Lansing - CEO

  • Thanks, Steve.

  • Today we announced the results of our second quarter of fiscal 2014.

  • I will briefly recap those results, talk about the progress we're making with the FICO Analytic Cloud, and discuss some important recent announcements we have made.

  • In our second quarter, we reported revenues of $185 million, an increase of 3% over the same percent last year.

  • On a GAAP basis, we delivered $21 million of net income, and earnings of $0.59 per share for the quarter versus $18 million and $0.51 per share from the same period last year.

  • We delivered $29 million of non-GAAP net income and non-GAAP EPS of $0.81 per share, increases of 13% and 17%, respectively, from the same period last year.

  • We had a very good bookings quarter, delivering $109 million of new deals, the highest single quarter since 2011.

  • Mike will provide more detail on the numbers, but first I'll discuss some of the things we've been working on.

  • We continue to make progress with the FICO Analytic Cloud.

  • We signed several deals this quarter that will begin contributing recurring revenues in the next few quarters.

  • These deals involve customers that required SaaS delivery and opportunities that we previously could not have competed for.

  • Though we are in early stage of rollout, we have already signed about $10 million of future SaaS revenue.

  • In March we announced the acquisition of InfoCentricity, a private software-as-a-service-based predictive analytics company.

  • With this acquisition we are able to put the most sophisticated cloud-based analytics modeling tools into the hands of the entire spectrum of users, from first-time modelers and seasoned business analysts up through advanced data scientists and the most demanding analytics professionals.

  • FICO now has the industry's broadest offering for predictive analytics modeling available in the cloud and on premise.

  • We also announced last week that we had acquired technology from Karmasphere that will significantly broaden our big data capabilities while increasing the market appeal in the FICO Analytic Cloud.

  • Karmasphere is a self-service product for analyzing data on Hadoop.

  • In the world of big data analytics, ease of use is critical, because one of the biggest impediments that wide scale adoption of big data analytics is the complexity of using Hadoop to discover and apply business insight from various types and sizes of datasets.

  • This is why you hear so much about big data being overhyped.

  • The fact is that the potential of big data is quite real, but the number of experts who are capable of performing Hadoop analytics is tiny compared to the demand.

  • Now, with the integration of Karmasphere's collaborative, intuitive and self-service application into the FICO Analytic Cloud, entire teams of analysts and business users will find it possible to transform their businesses using big data on Hadoop.

  • So, essentially, while this transaction was small, the implications are big.

  • FICO is simplifying the complexity of Hadoop and putting the power of big data analytics into the hands of all the people who can really use it.

  • Neither InfoCentricity nor Karmasphere will have a material impact on our fiscal '14 financial results, yet they are both important building blocks of the FICO Analytic Cloud and will enable more rapid adoption by our wider array of customers.

  • We also announced an important new program in our Scores business, FICO Custom Credit Education.

  • As you recall, last year we introduced the FICO Open Access Program, which allowed any lender to share the FICO score with their customers at no additional cost.

  • That program has taken off, and this new companion program goes a step further.

  • Lenders can now purchase the entire portfolio of valuable FICO tools and content.

  • With FICO Custom Credit Education, lenders can provide their customers with the richest set of tools in the marketplace to improve their financial literacy, tools like the FICO Score Simulator, personalized credit analysis, and comparisons to FICO score High Achievers and FICO Score monitoring and alerts.

  • Early response from lenders has been extremely positive, and we are currently in discussions with numerous large institutions to deliver either Open Access, Custom Credit Education, or both.

  • We also announced that we will release FICO Score 9, the next version of the FICO Score beginning this summer.

  • With this latest version, we have devised an innovative approach to developing FICO 9 Score that enables us to leapfrog our own industry standard benchmark.

  • FICO Score 9 will be the first release in a suite of updated and new FICO scores.

  • It will be followed by industry-specific FICO scores for credit cards, auto loans and mortgages.

  • Future scores in the suite will build on FICO's deep expertise in analyzing a broad spectrum of data types, as well as a keen understanding of client needs.

  • These scores will be developed to reliably assess the creditworthiness of even more people.

  • Taken together, these initiatives are examples of what we are doing to realize FICO's potential.

  • I continue to believe that FICO has a strong portfolio of products and loyal customers.

  • By making very selective investments in innovation such as these, we can give an additional boost to our growth trajectory.

  • I will now turn the call over to Mike for further financial details.

  • Mike Pung - CFO

  • Thank you, Will, and good afternoon, everyone.

  • Today I will emphasize three points in my prepared comments.

  • First, our revenues this quarter were $185 million, a 3% increase from last year.

  • Our Scores business grew 9%, our Tools business grew 22%, and our Applications business was down about 1% from the prior year.

  • Second, we delivered $21 million of GAAP net income, and $29 million of non-GAAP net income.

  • Our free cash flow was $44 million for the quarter.

  • Finally, we repurchased about $40 million of stock this quarter, which exhausted our previous $150 million authorization, and announced today board approval for a new $150 million authorization.

  • I will break the revenues down into three reporting segments.

  • Starting with Applications.

  • Revenues were $116 million, down 1% versus the same period last year, and up 3% versus last quarter.

  • We delivered growth in collections and recovery, up 22% from the same period last year.

  • In mobility, up 20%, and in originations up 12%.

  • These gains were offset by fraud banking revenues, which were down from the same period last year due to lower license sales.

  • While total applications revenue were down slightly versus last year, we did have much higher bookings in that segment.

  • The $79 million of bookings this quarter is up 18% over last year and is the largest quarter for applications bookings we've done in the last 10 quarters.

  • In the Tools segment, revenues were $22 million, up 22% versus the prior year.

  • The growth this quarter is driven by models and optimization tools.

  • We also had a good bookings quarter in Tools, up from the prior quarter and up 123% from the same quarter last year.

  • And, finally, our Scores segment continues to perform well.

  • Revenues were $48 million, up 9% from the same period last year, and up 1% from last quarter.

  • On the B2C side, we're up 11% versus the same period a year ago, and up 8% versus last quarter.

  • The B2B revenues were up 8% from the same quarter last year largely due to a royalty true up and down 1% compared with last quarter when we had a large global FICO Score deal.

  • Looking at our revenues by region, this quarter, 72% of total revenues were derived from our Americas region; our EMEA region generated 20%; and the remaining 8% was from Asia Pacific.

  • Recurring revenues derived from transactional and maintenance source for the quarter represented 71% of total revenues.

  • Consulting and implementation revenues were 19% of total, and license revenues were 10% of total revenue.

  • Turning now to bookings, we generated $21 million of current period revenues on bookings of $109 million, a 20% yield.

  • The weighted average term for our bookings was 28 months this quarter.

  • Of the $109 in bookings, 18% relates to collections and recovery, 15% to marketing solutions, 14% to banking fraud solutions, and 10% to origination solutions.

  • We had 21 booking deals in excess of $1 million, 9 of which exceeded $3 million.

  • Transactional and maintenance bookings were 34% of total this quarter.

  • Professional services bookings were 38% of total.

  • Finally, licensed bookings were 28% in the quarter.

  • Turning to expenses, operating expenses totaled $147 million this quarter, compared to $149 million in the prior quarter, down $2 million.

  • We expect operating expenses to increase modestly over the next several quarters.

  • As you can see in our Regulation G schedule, non-GAAP operating margin was 27% for the second quarter, unchanged from last quarter.

  • GAAP net income this quarter was $21 million versus $17 million in the prior quarter.

  • Non-GAAP net income was $29 million versus $26 million in the prior quarter.

  • The effective tax rate was about 33.7% this quarter.

  • We expect the effective rate to continue to be 34% to 36% for the full year unless the R&D credit is reinstated before the end of the year.

  • The free cash flow for the quarter was $44 million, or 24% of revenue, compared to $31 million, or 18% of revenues in the prior year.

  • Fiscal year-to-date we've delivered $69 million of free cash flow compared with $50 million in the first two quarters of last year.

  • Moving on to the balance sheet.

  • We have $108 million in cash on the balance sheet.

  • This is up $12 million from last quarter due to increases in cash generated from operations, offset by our share repurchases.

  • Our total debt is $483 million with a weighted average interest rate of 5.7%.

  • We now have a $28 million balance on our $200 million revolving credit facility.

  • The ratio of our total net debt to adjusted EBITDA is 1.9 times below the covenant level of 3 times, and our total fixed charge coverage ratio is at 4.9 times, well above the covenant level of 2.5.

  • During the quarter we returned $40 million in excess cash to our investors, repurchasing about 750,000 shares at an average price of $53.40.

  • These repurchases exhausted the $150 million that the board authorized in August 2012.

  • Today we announced the board has authorized a new $150 million stock repurchase program.

  • We continue to do share repurchases as an attractive use of cash.

  • We also evaluate opportunities to acquire relevant technologies and products that advance our strategy, our strength in our portfolio and competitive position.

  • Finally, I'd like to review and reaffirm our full year guidance.

  • As a reminder, for fiscal 2014, we guided revenues between $763 million and $773 million; GAAP net income between $91 million and $94 million; GAAP earnings per share between $2.50 to $2.60; non-GAAP net income between $125 million to $128 million; and non-GAAP EPS of $3.46 to $3.56 per share.

  • Two quarters into our fiscal year, we are not yet halfway to our guided revenue numbers.

  • So, a natural question may be what do we expect will change in the back half to get to our numbers?

  • We do remain confident, and our confidence stems from revenue flows on deals that we have already signed, along with additional mature deals in our pipeline.

  • So, let me provide you a bridge to our revenue guidance range.

  • We reported $370 million of revenue in the first half of this year, so to achieve our guidance range, we need to repeat the first half plus an additional $23 million of revenue.

  • Approximately $15 million of this additional revenue will waterfall from deals we have already signed with our customers.

  • These include services revenue we expect to earn related to recent bookings and, in addition, we will be claiming revenue on previously sold annual term licenses in the next two quarters.

  • The remaining $8 million of additional revenue is consistent with what we have historically seen in the back half of our year.

  • This revenue comes from both license sales and associated services generated from mature deals we see in our pipeline and expect to sign in the back half of the year.

  • As always, we will exercise discipline at controlling costs, and will remain highly focused on producing strong cash flow.

  • With that, I will turn the call back to Steve for Q&A.

  • Steve Weber - VP-IR

  • Thanks, Mike.

  • This concludes our prepared remarks and we are ready now to take your questions.

  • Tanya, please open the lines.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Manav Patnaik from Barclays.

  • Your line is open.

  • Manav Patnaik - Analyst

  • Hey, good evening, gentlemen.

  • I had a quick question in terms of the M&A strategy and how that has evolved.

  • You have obviously worked at this now two years, you've made a lot of good sort of tuck-in technology type deals.

  • I was just wondering what the appetite is to do something a little more significant or game-changing and just sort of make a bigger impact in terms of diversifying the company and how you think of it with respect to that.

  • Will Lansing - CEO

  • Yes, good question.

  • I would say that our M&A strategy has not changed dramatically.

  • I think you will see us continue to do technology tuck-ins as appropriate, where we find pockets of talent and technology in IT that are really synergistic with what we are doing, especially around decision management platform and pipeline analytic cloud, but I wouldn't confine it just to those areas.

  • And at the same time we are always on the lookout for bigger, more game-changing acquisitions.

  • That said, we remain as conservative as we've always been in terms of evaluating those kinds of acquisitions.

  • And that's not to say we wouldn't do one, but it have to meet a pretty high hurdle.

  • We have to be very confident that it's going to advance our business in a pretty material way, and certainly for us to take any dilution, we have to have very high expectations for the return that we will get.

  • As always, we evaluate everything against the alternative of buying back our own shares, and because we're so confident in the brightness of our future, that is a high hurdle, too.

  • So, we absolutely look at bigger deals all the time.

  • I mean, it's very much in our scope, and it remains to be seen whether we wind up doing one or not, but we are always looking.

  • Manav Patnaik - Analyst

  • Okay, fair enough.

  • And just on the Scores business, maybe can we get a quick update on sort of what the mix there is in terms of the different end markets, like credit cards, autos and so forth, and are there any early signs that you guys may be picking up, with the economy improving, that cold be sort of an early read if that can start getting some real good momentum there?

  • Mike Pung - CFO

  • Sure Manav, this is Mike.

  • So, we had a, once again, a pretty solid quarter across our Scores business on both the consumer and on the B2B side.

  • As it relates to the mix of our business, in the comparison to last year, we saw our marketing or acquisition scores grow pretty dramatically.

  • The volume grew from last year roughly 20% volume.

  • Much of that volume was coming from the card side of the business, the bank card as opposed to last year our business was more driven from originations and new mortgages.

  • So, the increase on the acquisition side on cards were about offset by the decline in the mortgage refinancing and on the origination side, at least how we look at our business.

  • So, one great solid quarter, and time will tell if those acquisition scores ultimately originate and open up new accounts.

  • Manav Patnaik - Analyst

  • Okay, fair enough.

  • Okay, that's all I have.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Bill Wilmington from Wells Fargo.

  • Your line is open.

  • Bill Wilmington - Analyst

  • Good afternoon, everyone.

  • A couple of questions for you.

  • The first, if you could talk a little bit about what's behind the strength in applications in terms of what's changed, why now are you seeing this sudden surge on the application side?

  • Mike Pung - CFO

  • So, we, as you know, Bill, over the past three, four quarters now, we've had a very long cycle for getting deals completed, mainly in the US banks and the US markets.

  • Some of the deals that have been held up in the sales cycle since last year are starting to sign and we're starting to see some of that in the form of bookings, and some of that as part of the revenue that we reported this quarter.

  • But that cycle is kind of continuing to push, so we've seen a little bit of that backlog come through.

  • We've also seen some very nice strong services deals for companies that are upgrading to our current version of a product.

  • And so generally, when a company upgrades to a current version, they get that version through the maintenance they've been paying, and they hire us to come in and help install and implement.

  • And so we have a fairly healthy backlog of implementation service that is embedded in part of these deals.

  • Bill Wilmington - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then I wanted to ask about how quickly you plan to implement the stock buyback?

  • Mike Pung - CFO

  • How quickly do we plan to implement it?

  • Bill Wilmington - Analyst

  • Implement the buyback.

  • Is it something where you're just going to basically match it to cash flow quarter-by-quarter, or is something where you would take on some additional leverage to accelerate it?

  • Mike Pung - CFO

  • We generally are sitting with a pretty decent position of cash on the balance sheet and we also obviously have access to take on a little leverage on the line of credit.

  • We took out a little bit last quarter.

  • The buyback program itself, we are just -- we are quite regular buyers of the program, and so the rate and pace that we've been buying in the past is all dependent upon alternative cash needs.

  • So, I wouldn't say there is a time we are going to turn it on and turn it off, it's just an ongoing program for us and we just assess it with the cash flow in the near term and other alternative uses for it.

  • Bill Wilmington - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then I had a question for you about FICO 9 and why switch to FICO 9 now?

  • What drives the adoption?

  • Will Lansing - CEO

  • Well, we are constantly looking at improving on the technology that we have out in the marketplace, and just as FICO 8 replaced the scores that preceded it, we have the next generation of scores coming.

  • This has been in the works actually for several years, and so why now?

  • Why not now?

  • This is a regular thing for us to move generationally from one square to the next.

  • We do it with tremendous caution, because FICO obviously has very widespread adoption, and we want to do it in a way that is not disruptive to the marketplace.

  • But there is a -- the beauty of the way we're going at it is that it is both backward compatible for our people who have FICO 8 in place, and there is opportunities for more kinds of customization for our bank customers who want to do other things that they weren't able to do before.

  • Bill Wilmington - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then a final question for you on the Scores side of the business in terms of the demand that you are seeing for scores for prescreening for banks and credit card use.

  • How are you finding the banks' appetite at this point?

  • Are you starting to see a lift there?

  • It sounded like with a pickup in volume that you referenced, the answer to that would be yes, but I wanted to just ask that question.

  • Will Lansing - CEO

  • The answer to that is yes.

  • Bill Wilmington - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Well, thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) The next one comes from Brett Huff from Stephens Inc.

  • Your line is open.

  • Brett Huff - Analyst

  • Good afternoon.

  • Thanks for taking my questions.

  • One follow-up on the applications.

  • A question was asked earlier, did you -- I'm not sure if I heard in the prepared comments that -- if you broke down which of the applications are providing some of that growth, which of the deals or what variety of deals are coming through?

  • And I guess my question is both which product and what's the delivery mechanism?

  • Is it typically license or are some of the deals -- I know you all have been developing SaaS versions of those products.

  • Can you give us -- just characterize that for us?

  • Mike Pung - CFO

  • Yes, let me walk you through that from my portion of the script here.

  • This is Mike.

  • So, the growth on the application side came through first Collections and Recovery, which is our Debt Manager 9 product, and older versions of Debt Manager that are out in the marketplace.

  • Those are typically license revenues, so the term license is signed and we claim it upfront.

  • We were up 22% from the prior year.

  • The second area of strength on the application side was in Mobility, which is what we gained when we acquired Adeptra a little over a year and a half ago.

  • Mobility is a ratable model and it's all subscription based, so it first shows up in a booking, and then once live it shows up in an ongoing revenue stream that we call transactional.

  • That was up 20% over the prior year.

  • And, finally, Originations, our Originations Manager product, which was up 12% over the prior year.

  • The Originations product is also generally more of a licensed-based, term license-based product.

  • Though the SaaS revenues that Will were describing which are going to yield future revenue to us are going to come in a ratable model.

  • Does that help?

  • Brett Huff - Analyst

  • Okay, that's helpful.

  • Yes, that's great.

  • Thank you.

  • And then just kind of a follow-up question to the SaaS question.

  • I know you developed various SaaS versions of some of the products you developed, bought some of them, developed some of them.

  • Can you give us just a status update of where we are on that and what -- any more in, or however you want to characterize it?

  • To us, that's a big part of the story for FICO right now, and I want to just get an update on that.

  • Will Lansing - CEO

  • I don't know exactly what anything you would call it, but the products are there.

  • They have been made available as services and we are just starting to sell them now.

  • The market is increasingly interested in it, maybe faster than we even expected.

  • And we've done our first few SaaS deals where we literally took the functionality that we had in a nonpremise application, like Originations Manager 4, and have it in the marketplace now and deals done in kind of SaaS basis with Origination Manager 4.5.

  • So, that would be an example, but we have that across-the-board.

  • Brett Huff - Analyst

  • That's helpful.

  • And then last question from me is the Scores business, any commentary on pricing or competition, or any update on that front?

  • Will Lansing - CEO

  • You know, we have to earn our wings every day in that business.

  • We don't take anything for granted.

  • The appetite of our customer base for Open Access seems to be very large, and although there is not a lot of revenue that comes from Open Access, it really does help us with cementing the franchise, and we hope that the strong position in Open Access leads to additional revenue in programs like our education program, the credit education program.

  • Brett Huff - Analyst

  • Okay, that's what I needed.

  • I appreciate your time.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Galinko from Sidoti.

  • Your line is open.

  • Matthew Galinko - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my question.

  • So, is there any revenue from the Customer Credit Education program built into your fiscal '14 guidance?

  • Will Lansing - CEO

  • No, there is not.

  • Matthew Galinko - Analyst

  • Okay, thanks.

  • And then any color you could provide around just the length in bookings term.

  • Will Lansing - CEO

  • The length, is that what you said?

  • Matthew Galinko - Analyst

  • Yes, the length in bookings terms.

  • Mike Pung - CFO

  • Oh, sorry, I didn't year, yes.

  • So, normally our bookings term is usually 23 or 24 months, quarter-after-quarter.

  • A little bit longer, 28 months, this quarter.

  • I wouldn't necessarily read into anything about it other than we have a couple of our large deals.

  • We did nine deals over $3 million.

  • A couple of them have 36- and 48-month terms to it.

  • One in particular has a four-year term to it.

  • That was a larger deal, and so that skews a little bit of the pie.

  • Matthew Galinko - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) There are no further questions at this time.

  • I turn the call back over to the presenters.

  • Steve Weber - VP-IR

  • Thank you, Tanya.

  • This concludes our call for the quarter.

  • Thank you all for joining us.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference call.

  • You may now disconnect.