Phoenix New Media Ltd (FENG) 2021 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Phoenix New Media Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. (Operator Instructions) I must advise you that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Qing Liu. Thank you. Please go ahead.

  • Qing Liu - IR Manager

  • Thank you, operator. Welcome to Phoenix Media's Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. I'm joined here by our Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Shuang Liu; and Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Edward Lu. On today's call, management will first provide a review of the quarter results and then conduct a Q&A session.

  • The second quarter 2021 financial results and webcast of this conference call are available on our website at ir.ifeng.com. A replay of the call will be available on the website in a few hours.

  • Before we continue, I would like to refer you to our safe harbor statement in our earnings press release, which apply to this call as we will make forward-looking statements. Finally, please note that unless otherwise stated, all figures mentioned during this conference call are in RMB. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Shuang Liu, our CEO.

  • Shuang Liu - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Qing. Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us on our call today. During the second quarter of 2021, we continued to encounter downward pressure as competition intensified, regulations tightened and advertisers remained cautious with their budgets.

  • As our core competitive differentiation lies in our original content production capabilities, we have upheld our commitment to originality and revamped our content strategy. We believe that our newly augmented content matrix will lay a solid foundation to attract new users, increase their loyalty and generate a sustainable revenue stream.

  • I would like to start by discussing our key efforts in revamping our content strategy. As users suffer from information overload in the digitally charged world, we're convinced that the most effective way to add value to our users is to produce original content with distinctive characters that are true to our brand. Hence, we have repositioned our content matrix and adjusted our content and production pipelines to produce a series of columns and programs, each written and presented in a certain voice and style consistent with our branding differentiation. Through these efforts, we intend to not only enhance our brand image but also create a unique brand affinity among our users and advertisers, which should help us unlock more sustainable long-term value from our brand equity in turn.

  • To elaborate, in the area of original content, in order to cater to varied user demands, we have focused our resources on producing three distinct genres, opinion column, in-depth investigative reporting and premium IP production. For example, during the second quarter, we launched an original opinion column titled Eye of the Storm, (foreign language), which is distinctively positioned to examine contentious current events. We present the audience with our unique, authentic and timely interpretation of issues by conducting meticulous research and exploring a wide array of viewpoints. Our coverage on various controversial topics and social phenomenon generated an immense number of views across our APP and other social platforms with the most popular piece garnered more than 140 million views on Weibo.

  • As for in-depth investigative reporting, our trademark columns, such as Tang Bo Hu and the Tumor Intelligence Agency continue to bring our users well-rounded and thorough analysis on the hottest topics such as the COVID-19 Delta variant, latest vaccine developments, Miami condo collapse and so on. In addition, our social investigative column, Living (foreign language), examines societal issues through life stories of ordinary people, thus raising public awareness of these issues and giving voice to the often voiceless.

  • Our new short video series titled Your Achievements, (foreign language), pioneered a unique storytelling method by combining field production with tech talk like -- TED Talk-Style speech by A-list celebrities. The series portrays how ordinary people have overcome tremendous difficulties to accomplish nearly impossible projects. It resonates so much with the current audience's aspiration for excellence, success and honor that it became an instant hit across the internet. The two episodes released during the quarter accumulated over 10 million plays on our APP alone. The second episode became the #1 hot search on Bilibili and also ranked at the top iQIYI's heat map for all similar themed programs. Your Achievements, elevated our premium IP production content to new heights and exemplified our industry-leading planning and production capabilities.

  • In addition to quality production, advertisers also appreciate our access to luminaries in art, culture, science and politics with backgrounds and traits in sync with their brand images. For example, through video series, Junpin Talk (foreign language), we interviewed Han Mei Lin, a renowned contemporary Chinese artist. The program attained a large number of "likes" and endorsements from top KOLs as well as young intellectuals who constitute the large -- the target demographics coveted by our advertisers.

  • As for reporting news and events, we continue to distinguish ourselves through industry-leading breaking news coverage. During the quarter, we covered the launch of Chinese manned spaceship, Shenzhou XII, through a variety of formats, including live streaming, push notifications and the focal topic recommendations. Our multi-dimensional coverage reaped 5 million user following, particularly through live streaming, which attracted a historical record of over 800,000 live audiences.

  • Beyond the cornerstone of our original content and news reporting, we also made strides in expanding our content ecosystem. During the quarter, we launched our own MCN platform called As We Know it, (foreign language). As the name suggests, it is positioned as a hub for knowledge-based content created by our contracted influencers, taking into consideration of our professional journalistic DNA, our global contact network, and our highly educated user base. By the end of the second quarter, our MCN had contracts -- contracted 14 subject experts, including Phoenix TV reporters, renowned intellectuals and overseas content creators.

  • Our first original video series called Phoenix Global Observer Group, (foreign language) brings field reports and live interviews on trending global topics and events to our audience. The series became an instant success on Weibo, Bilibili, and other third-party platforms in addition to our own platform, attaining wide user followings.

  • In the meantime, we're in the process of expanding our creator mix to cover subjects such as law and economics, health and wellness, culture and social science.

  • Through our MCN platform, content creators benefit from our brands' pervasive influence, while we generate value by enhancing our content matrix, strengthening our brand equity and providing clients with diversified marketing solutions.

  • Looking ahead, we believe the combination of our cross-border content delivery capability with our distinctive creator mix, which consists of both foreigners in China and Chinese expatriates, will become a competitive advantage for us as we foresee an ever growing demand for overseas marketing by Chinese brands.

  • Next, I will briefly touch on our signature events during the quarter. This year marks the 10th anniversary of our Phoenix Finance Summit. Prominent speakers including the Chief Executive of Hong Kong SAR, Ms. Carrie Lam, together with 31 other political dignitaries and business tycoons congregated at this year's Summit. Also, for our iFeng Gourmet Food festival in Beijing and the culinary arts center of Chengdu, we attracted over 160 distinguished guests at each location, including top chefs, food critics, restaurateurs and celebrities, thus greatly enhancing our brand influence in the food sector.

  • Now, let's take a look at our iFeng app. In response to our re-aligned content strategy, we have implemented a few initiatives to enhance the content ecosystem within our app. We carefully segregated content related hot issues out of our premium content pool, thus setting time-sensitive content with temporarily high views apart from evergreen content with sustainable popularity. On one hand, we continue to make editorial recommendation of trending topics to cater to users' desire to tune in current events.

  • On the other hand, we have also refined our premium content pool to retain in-depth content with lasting user value, including high-quality content from those original columns and programs mentioned earlier as well as from other WeMedia accounts. By optimizing our operation and distribution of the premium content pool, we intend to increase both our user retention rate and our average user time spent on the app. In fact, our monthly repeat user increased by 4% sequentially over the last quarter.

  • As we collaborate more closely with Phoenix TV on distribution rights, we have vastly improved our app's user interface and page layout to better leverage the exclusive content from Phoenix TV.

  • For example, we have segmented Phoenix TV-related content into a standalone column with its own landing page, and added content labels to highlight exclusivity. Because the Phoenix TV brand carries significant user affinity and trust, distributing exclusive content from it through the iFeng app, has significantly improved our user stickiness.

  • During the second quarter, within the Phoenix TV column, monthly active users increased by 18%, while the click-through rate increased by 27% on a sequential basis.

  • Lastly, I'd like to share our progress in revenue diversification. For online reading, we have made significant progress in adding more methods of monetizing our premium IP content. In addition to our cooperation with Himalaya in audio content production, we have also entered into a long-term strategic cooperation agreement with the Tencent Music Entertainment Group to expand our audio content licensing program to all of its platforms, including QQ, Kugou and Kuwo Music.

  • For our audiovisual content, we have formed a strategic cooperation with Shandong Film and Television Production company, a renowned producer of movie and TV programs, to jointly create movies and TV shows based on our copyrighted IP content as well as to jointly engage investors and sponsors.

  • For our real estate vertical, our performance in the first half of this year met our own expectations despite tightened market regulation, which we believe will likely prevail throughout the rest of the year. In anticipation of a challenging environment going forward, we are proactively streamlining business operations at our local branch offices to boost their revenue-generation capabilities. We're also optimizing our revenue composition by gradually diversifying our client base to reduce customer-concentrated risks.

  • On the e-commerce front, our independently developed e-commerce platform was close to completion during the second quarter. We have invested substantial efforts in refining our merchandising strategy to establish our competitive differentiation in the e-commerce arena. After review -- after thorough reviews of our user base characteristics, our operating performance data and third-party market research, we have concluded that our competitive edge lies in selecting and marketing products in two specialty categories. One is high culture and creativity and the other one, health and wellness. Going forward, we will focus our platform resources on those two product categories.

  • Moreover, we have decided to leverage external resources beyond our own user traffic to achieve faster growth for our e-commerce business. Our team is actively exploring different ways of utilizing our premium content to generate user traffic from third-party platforms such as WeChat. We'll also leverage our content production capabilities in various vertical channels such as Phoenix Lab, food and beverage, health and wellness, culture and reading, to effectively close the loop of vertical content to specialty commerce.

  • In summary, while we are fully aware of the multitude of challenges we are currently facing, we remain confident in our business prospect as we zero in on our core competency in original content creation, realign our operational focus, expand our content matrix and adjust our distribution strategies.

  • With that, I will now turn the call to our CFO, Edward Lu, to provide a closer look into our quarterly financials.

  • Xiaojing Lu - CFO

  • Thank you, Shuang, and thank you all for joining our conference call today.

  • Our total revenues in the second quarter of 2021 were RMB 256.7 million, representing a decrease of 17.8% from RMB 312.3 million in the same period of last year.

  • I will now provide some additional color on revenues during the second quarter of 2021. Net advertising revenues in the second quarter of 2021 were RMB 233.0 million, representing a decrease of 18.6% from RMB 286.3 million in the same period of last year, mainly due to the reductions in the advertising spending of advertisers from certain industries in the period.

  • Paid services revenues in the second quarter of 2021 decreased by 8.8% to RMB 23.7 million from RMB 26.0 million in the same period of last year. Revenues from paid contents in the second quarter of 2021 decreased by 32.4% to RMB 9.6 million from RMB 14.2 million in the same period of last year, mainly due to the trend towards free online reading in the online reading market. Revenues from E-commerce and others in the second quarter of 2021 increased by 19.5% to RMB 14.1 million from RMB 11.8 million in the same period of 2020, mainly caused by the increase in revenues from E-commerce business.

  • Loss from operations in the second quarter of 2021 was RMB 34.8 million compared to income from operations of RMB 25.6 million in the same period of last year.

  • Operating margin in the second quarter of 2021 was negative 13.5% compared to positive 8.2% in the same period of last year.

  • As Shuang mentioned, we have made a strategic decision to increase our investment in bolstering our original content production capabilities. While such investment will impact our profit margin in the short term, as we managing our expenses prudently, we believe that it will help boost our competitive advantages and revitalize our growth trajectory.

  • Non-GAAP loss from operations in the second quarter of 2021 was RMB 30.1 million compared to non-GAAP income from operations of RMB 27.8 million in the same period of last year. Non-GAAP operating margin in the second quarter of 2021 was negative 11.7% compared to positive 8.9% in the same period of last year.

  • Net loss from continuing operations attributable to iFeng in the second quarter of 2021 was RMB 7.1 million compared to net income from continuing operations attributable to iFeng of RMB 2.8 million in the same period of last year. Non-GAAP net loss from continuing operations attributable to iFeng in the second quarter of 2021 was RMB 2.1 million compared to non-GAAP net income from continuing operations attributable to iFeng of RMB 23.7 million in the same period of last year.

  • Moving on to our balance sheet. As of June 30, 2021, the company's cash and cash equivalents, term deposits, short term investments and restricted cash were RMB 1.61 billion or approximately USD 248.9 million.

  • Finally, I'd like to provide our business outlook for the third quarter of 2021. We are forecasting total revenues to be between RMB 257.9 million and RMB 282.9 million. For net advertising revenues, we are forecasting between RMB 236.7 million and RMB 256.7 million. For paid service revenues, we are forecasting between RMB 21.2 million and RMB 26.2 million.

  • Looking ahead, we will continue to prioritize the attraction and retention of users through the production of exclusive and original content. At the same time, we aim to execute more product upgrades to refine our user experiences and improve our content operations, which should ultimately fuel the growth of our brand equity.

  • In line with these efforts, we will also focus on bolstering our operating efficiency, investigating new monetization strategies and improving our revenue stream mix. Such efforts will allow us to enter a new growth cycle and further improve our overall profitability.

  • This concludes the prepared portion of our call. We are now ready for questions. Operator, please go ahead.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from Xueru Zhang of 86Research.

  • Xueru Zhang - Analyst

  • I had one question regarding your ad business. Can management share more color on the drivers for advertising growth in the second quarter? So if you can share that, we can better understand around how you see that growth trend? And any major initiatives should we expect in second half to further support the growth?

  • Xiaojing Lu - CFO

  • This is Edward speaking. Actually, this is a very good question. Actually, our brand advertising business is still facing challenges in revenue growth. During the quarter, advertisers in certain industries reduced their marketing spending. For example, clients in auto industry are our advertising business's most important revenue source. But because of the ongoing shortage of auto chip supply, auto industry production capacity was reduced and the lower sales targets forced the industry clients to cut their ad spending. Advertisers in other industries such as real estate also trimmed their advertising activities as a result of the tightening regulatory environment.

  • Also, during the second quarter, COVID-19 resurged in Southern China. The execution of some of our important offline operations and events in the region had to be put on hold. This, of course, also negatively affected our ad revenues in the second quarter. But in the meantime, various short video and social media platforms obtained an increasing portion of market share in the online advertising industry. So we are, at the same time, facing intense competition as well.

  • Having said that, we have carefully reviewed our business operations, reevaluated our sales team and made timely operational adjustments to better prepare for the challenges ahead. We have assessed our industry and customer mix as well as our regional market dynamics, to exploit more sales opportunities and create new incentive schemes around business development to acquire more new customers and the enter new industries.

  • Actually, advertisers' demand for strategic branding and marketing are always evolving. They now require more comprehensive marketing solutions instead of single ad product. Aside from our signature events and the regular premium content offering, actually, we are leveraging our user traffic and influence on social media and short-video platforms, including those generated by our MCN influencers, to enrich our products and service offerings.

  • Also, as Shuang mentioned earlier, like as adjustment to our original content strategy, is very important as well. This will further enhance our brand. This, combined with our strategic planning in various industry verticals such as tourism, health and wellness and automobiles, will help us improve user loyalty, increase brand influence and ultimately, drive the growth of our advertising business in these sectors.

  • Last but not least, utilizing our international background and their perspectives, we are actively launching official accounts on social platforms overseas, such as Facebook and YouTube, to further amplify our global brand presence and the influence. At the same time, we have utilized our MCN platform to sign many overseas KOLs with international backgrounds. I believe these efforts will create enormous value for large-scale corporations in China, helping them to expand their international exposure and conduct more overseas branding activities. Thank you, and I hope I have answered your question.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from Carmen Zhang of First Shanghai Securities.

  • Carmen Zhang - Analyst

  • Can management please share some additional information regarding your operations on third-party social media and short-video platforms? And how do you plan to monetize traffic generated from there?

  • Shuang Liu - CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Karen (sic) [Carmen.] This is Shuang. We are definitely becoming more focused on third-party platforms. This platform is becoming more and more important because it first can function as a channel for our premium content distribution. Also, becoming a very important source of traffic and therefore, monetization opportunities.

  • In terms of brand advertising, our third-party platform traffic has provided existing advertisers with more opportunities to heighten their brand exposure as well as reach more potential consumers on third-party platforms. It will support our brand advertising revenue in return.

  • Aside from brand influence, we also believe the in-depth commercial value of these traffic has yet to be fully unleashed. They have helped us to access a large client base with growing demand for content marketing, notably those in the FMCG industry. Also, since an increasing number of consumers start shopping on social media platforms such as Douyin, Kuaishou and WeChat, the large follower counts, which we have accumulated on these platforms, will also drive our E-commerce business growth.

  • As such, we have laid out a detailed action plan for our operation on the third party platforms. We have a specific aim to further explore their commercial value. First, we need to concentrate our resources on developing top-tier accounts on third party platforms and focus on quality over quantity.

  • We have also categorized our accounts on third party platforms into different groups for varied purpose. For example, our iFeng account on Weibo, given its broad content coverage with more than 20 million followers, we plan to use it to fortify our brand influence rather than to drive monetization going forward.

  • On the other hand, we have our vertical content accounts such as finance and economy and fashion, our IP content accounts such as Living, (inaudible) and the accounts of our MCN's contracted influencers. As these accounts target more specific audience base with a more detailed user profile, they are planned to be the main categories for monetization.

  • Also, our focus on building content genres differs from platform to platform in order to attract quality traffic and targeted followers as the characteristics between platforms are quite different. For example, WeChat has a large user base for finance and culture. Bilibili for tech and knowledge and so on.

  • These plans would not only work with streamlined operational processes and effective performance evaluation. We have established quantitative performance indicators such as numbers on content publishing, article views, followers, re-shares and comments across different platforms. By evaluating these metrics, we can decide whether or not we have met our operational targets. Along with our persistent focus on content quality and influence as well as our sales efforts, we believe our client base and average revenue per customer will both increase. And of course, the commercial value of these traffic will naturally follow. Yes, this is my answer. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) I would now like to hand the conference back to Qing. Please continue.

  • Qing Liu - IR Manager

  • Thank you, operator. We have come to the end of our Q&A session and our conference call. Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions. Thank you for joining us on this call. Have a good day.