Frequency Electronics Inc (FEIM) 2022 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Greetings, and welcome to the Frequency Electronics First Quarter Fiscal Year 2022 Earnings Release Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

  • Any statements made by the company during this conference call regarding the future constitute forward-looking statements pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements inherently involve uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences are included in the company's press releases and are further detailed in the company's periodic report filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this conference call.

  • It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Stan Sloane, President and CEO.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining us today to discuss FEI's first quarter of our '22 fiscal year. Following my comments, I will ask Steve to provide financial details, after which, we will take questions.

  • Underlying financial trends were generally stable this quarter. And while unusual legal expenses impacted income and cash generation, the bulk of these expenses are now behind us. Steve will give you a detailed explanation of the accounting associated with the litigation settlement in a minute. The COVID pandemic also impacted us in the quarter, due mostly to supply chain issues and customer delays in processing new contracts. Most exciting this quarter, however, is the new technology, which we have embarked upon, highlighted in our August 18, 2021, press release, which will result in a new and very advanced atomic clock for space, defense and commercial applications. This pulsed, optically pumped rubidium atomic clock will be a game changer in the marketplace.

  • We also continue to evaluate other advanced technologies for potential development as well. These new technologies will be the growth engine for the company in the years to come and will enable spin-off technologies and products that will accelerate growth further. From my point of view, the company is at an inflection point. With the distractions of litigation behind us, some new and promising technology developments ahead of us, the imminent commencement of the qualification program for our space-qualified GPS atomic clock about to begin and a robust portfolio of new business opportunities to tackle FEI's prospect has never been brighter.

  • Now let me turn things over to Steve to discuss the financial data for the quarter. Steve?

  • Steven L. Bernstein - CFO, Secretary, Controller & Treasurer

  • Thank you, Stan, and good afternoon. For the 3 months ended July 31, 2021, consolidated revenue was $13 million, which is consistent with the same period of the prior fiscal year. The components of revenue were as follows: Revenue from commercial and U.S. government satellite programs was approximately $6.7 million, which is consistent with the same period of the prior fiscal year and accounted for approximately 52% of consolidated revenue compared to 51% for the prior fiscal year.

  • Revenues on satellite payload contracts are recognized primarily under the percentage of completion method and are recorded only in the FEI-New York segment. Revenues from nonspace U.S. government and DOD customers, which are recorded in both the FEI-New York and FEI-Zyfer segments, were $5.5 million compared to $5.3 million in the same period of the prior fiscal year and accounted for approximately 42% of consolidated revenue compared to 41% for the prior fiscal year.

  • Other commercial and industrial revenues were $725,000 compared to $965,000 in the prior fiscal year. Intersegment revenues are eliminated in consolidation.

  • For the 3 months ended July 31, 2021, the gross margin and gross margin rate were consistent with the same period of the prior fiscal year. Gross margin was affected by variation in engineering costs associated with programs in their development for its production phase and external issues such as COVID-19-related supply chain impacts.

  • For the 3 months ended July 31, 2021, and 2020, selling and administrative expenses were approximately 34% and 25%, respectively, of consolidated revenue. The increase in SG&A expense was mainly due to an increase in professional fees associated with ongoing litigation and fluctuation in other expenses. The company anticipates that SG&A expenses will decrease following settlement of the litigation issue.

  • R&D expense for the 3 months ended July 31, 2021, and 2020 increased to $1.4 million from $1.2 million, an increase of $200,000 and were 10% and 9% of consolidated revenue. The company's R&D expense increased year-over-year as R&D efforts have begun on new product development. The company plans to continue to invest in R&D to keep its products at the state-of-the-art as well as work on developing new technologies.

  • For the 3 months ended July 31, 2021, the company recorded an operating loss of $1.7 million compared to $300,000 in the prior year. In addition to factors cited above, increased professional fees associated with litigation significantly contributed to the company's operating loss for the period. Other factors that contributed were the continuing effort -- effects of the COVID-19 pandemic and engineering costs cited above.

  • Other income consisted primarily investment income derived from the company's holdings of marketable securities. Earnings on marketable securities may vary based upon fluctuating interest rates, dividend payout levels and the timing of purchases, sales, redemptions and maturity of securities. The fluctuation in other income expense was due to less interest expense and higher other income compared to the same period of the prior fiscal year. This yields a pretax loss of approximately $1.6 million compared to $300,000 for the prior year.

  • For the 3 months ending July 31, 2021, the company recorded a tax provision of $1,000 compared to $9,000 for the prior fiscal year. Consolidated net loss for the 3 months ended July 31, 2021, was $1.6 million or $0.17 per share compared to $300,000 net loss or $0.03 per share in the previous fiscal year.

  • Our fully funded backlog at the end of July 2021 was approximately $37 million, down approximately $3 million from the previous fiscal year ended April 30, 2021. The company's balance sheet continues to reflect the strong working capital position of approximately $40 million at July 31, 2021, and a current ratio of approximately 3.6:1. Additionally, the company is debt free. The company believes that its liquidity is adequate to meet its operating and investing needs for the next 12 months and foreseeable future.

  • Now for an explanation of the accounting associated with the legal settlement that was announced on August 25 via the company's 8-K filing. When you look at the balance sheet, you will see a current asset for $6 million, both cash surrender value of life insurance current and a current liability of $5.3 million called deferred compensation current. The company surrendered life insurance policies and use available cash from deferred compensation plan assets, which were previously classified as noncurrent assets to cover the $6 million mentioned above. The $5.3 million deferred compensation current is a liability previously accrued and was moved from long-term liability to current liability as a result of the settlement.

  • The difference between these 2 amounts of approximately $646,000 was recorded as an increase to accrued liabilities current and a corresponding charge to deferred compensation expense in the P&L. The effect of this settlement will be to reduce deferred compensation assets by $6 million, reduce deferred compensation liability by $5.3 million and increase deferred compensation expense in the P&L by $646,000. There is no effect on the company's cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities as a result of the settlement.

  • I will turn the call back to Stan, and we look forward to your questions soon.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Steve. We'll take some questions now, and we'll let the operator explain to you how you can submit those. Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question is from [Michael Cooper], private investor.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • So I've been a pretty patient investor in Frequency Electronics for 5 years. And I know a lot of people have been in there for 20 or 25 years and with very little to show for it. And now you've come out with what seems to be some very strong technology that introduced as new value to the company. But we have, as investors, no way to assess what that is, what it means. Can you give us some kind of -- like how does this leverage the leadership position of Frequency in your current space markets, in your military and defense markets, but also the new commercial markets that could open up to you? Like what does this mean?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • So in the world of atomic clocks, it's really all about stability, and this technology will produce a clock that has much better stability than, for example, our current products. It is -- and it will have application not only for space, but we intend to develop versions of it for nonspace and also potentially for communications, commercial communications.

  • Now this development -- we're just starting the development. The initial technological hurdles that impeded the development of this sort of thing, we have behind us now. So we're starting the development. The development will take some time depending on whether we can attract government money or not. But once this is developed, we would expect it will be a game changer initially for the space market. And then I think the defense and tactical market would follow shortly and then commercial potentially after that.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • So what's your total addressable market with this technology?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • For space and defense, that's on the order of $450 million to $500 million annually, and then commercial, a little harder to calibrate but probably equal or bigger.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • On the commercial side, is the database or a data center market -- there's 0.5 million data centers out there, and I understand that synchronization of high-speed data flows could be an application for atomic clocks. Do you fit into that kind of market now?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes, we would want to target that market as well.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • So there's one major supplier that has, what, 90% of that market, correct?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. I don't know if it's 90%, but yes, depending on where you're talking about geographically, but okay.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • So your technological strengths, your reliability and your cost, I assume, advantage, you think that would be enough to dislodge the current force in the market?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • I think that we should be able to capture significant market share.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Okay. Great.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Now I do have to point out that this product has not completed development yet. So if you take the space version and the terrestrial version for defense and then the commercial version, those all look quite different. They're targeted at different markets. They'll have different features. All of those things are subject to development. Now we're just starting the development.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • And for taking these things to market, especially the new markets, would you partner with people that are already -- have significant channels into those markets?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Sure. There's a variety of business markets, particularly if you're talking about the commercial marketplace that we would leverage. So yes.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Okay. Great. Sounds very exciting.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • It is. We're excited about it.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from [Richard Johns], private investor.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • My first question has to do with this $650,000 final, apparently, litigation settlement expense. Is that going to show up -- did it show up in the July quarter? Or is that going to be accrued in the October quarter?

  • Steven L. Bernstein - CFO, Secretary, Controller & Treasurer

  • No. It was accrued in July. It's on the P&L now.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Okay. Okay. And the news about the new rubidium clock is exciting. I want to go back, though, and refer to the other products you have. You've mentioned in the past that you've had bids outstanding of upwards of $600 million. I think the last number I remember was $500 million. Are we still looking at -- now those numbers don't relate to the new rubidium clock. So are we still looking at that kind of potential for the existing products?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. The bids outstanding hasn't changed a whole lot. And I have to recognize that things come into that and things go out of that. So it's dynamic. But it's about that level right now. And you are correct. That does not include anything associated with this new technology development.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Okay. And I know you don't like to make specific forecast, but will it -- is the period of development for the new rubidium clock, the applications, is it going to be measured in quarters or years? What would you say?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • It's very dependent on whether we can attract government funding or not, which is we're working on. But without the government funding, you're talking about a few years to get that to the market.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • And I mean with this kind of technology, wouldn't government funding be a pretty much a sheer thing?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • We would certainly hope so.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Sam Rebotsky with SER Asset Management.

  • Sam Rebotsky

  • When do we expect this to flow into the backlog? Do we expect to get products out there in a year or 2 years? What do we expect to accomplish?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • You're referring to the advanced development I just talked about, correct?

  • Sam Rebotsky

  • Yes. Yes, the rubidium.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • So again, that's highly dependent on the government. Let's say, hypothetically, that Monday, the government awarded us a contract, well, that will immediately go into backlog. So it depends on that. And without any government funding internal developments, you're not looking at a backlog impact in the near term.

  • Sam Rebotsky

  • Okay. And I guess our main customers are Lockheed and Grumman. And they would be the ones that would give us some more business or in the -- whether it's for rubidium or what we're working on. Is that what we're looking for?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • So for the space version of that clock, it would be our usual customer set, so the big aerospace primes for the U.S. defense market. And then commercial, there are some potential commercial space and non-U.S. government space jobs that -- for folks that are currently fielding satellites in Europe, for example. And then on the terrestrial side, it's the defense primes, also potentially direct -- some direct government sales to the government agencies that install and operate communication network (inaudible), for example.

  • Operator

  • Hopefully, you get some contracts soon and that you could be profitable going forward. Good luck.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you. We're working on it.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Brett Reiss with Janney.

  • Brett Reiss - SVP of Private Client Group & Financial Advisor

  • You mentioned in your prepared remarks that apart from the rubidium advance to atomic clock, you're working on other advanced technologies without letting the cat out of the hat with trade secrets. Or can you just give us a little bit more color on the areas you're working on there?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • I can't get into too much detail, but we're evaluating another potential atomic clock technology that it's premature to get in too much detail about. But on the atomic clock side, and that's technology totally different than the rubidium clocks. And then, of course, we continue to work on our, what I would call, our core technology portfolio, the precision quartz oscillators and Frequency conversion stuff and all of that. That's still ongoing and that's part of our internal research and development program.

  • Brett Reiss - SVP of Private Client Group & Financial Advisor

  • Right. Now the type of clock that is on the satellite that helps a customer prevent hacking and spoofing, what type of clock is that?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • It's a very good clock.

  • Brett Reiss - SVP of Private Client Group & Financial Advisor

  • All right. Okay.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. You need -- you want a very precise clock, a very good holdover. So it tends to be a very high-performance type of clock.

  • Brett Reiss - SVP of Private Client Group & Financial Advisor

  • Okay. Now on the last call, you were looking to hire another 10 people. In this last quarter, where you successful in accomplishing that?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • I don't remember exactly the timing, but our employment is up about, I think, about 15 people since start of the year roughly. So I think my answer to you is yes.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from [Michael Eisner], private investor.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • I'm guessing you have about 255 employees now from what the numbers are, if I'm correct.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes, it's approximately system-wide.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • All right. Was the lumpiness for this quarter, was that because of, one, revenues recognized or COVID issues or supply chain issues?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • All of the above.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Everything. All right. And you mentioned before, one company is 90% of this business. Are we 10x better time stability than they are as in your press release on August 18?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • I'm sorry, Michael, I missed the last part of your question. You broke up. Would you say it again, please?

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Are you -- all right. On your August 18 press release, you said you had 10x better time stability with this technology.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. That's what I was alluding to earlier, the better the clock, the better the stability. Or the better the stability, the better the clock, I guess, better way...

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Than the customer that has 90% of the market now?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • I think the reference that you're talking about there was to market share company...

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Yes, yes.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. So our intent is to provide a better clock at competitive price and capture part of that market share.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Well, is it 10x better time stability compared to them?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes, much better time stability. That's the objective of this clock, much higher stability.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • And we may not see revenue for a while?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • It could take a little while to get it developed, again, depending on how successful we are in attracting government funding.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • All right. And the GPS IIIF, I saw that SV06, 07 and 08 are ready for launch?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • That's not GPS IIIF, that's GPS III.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • All right. So where are we on IIIF?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • So on IIIF, our DRAFS, our digital rubidium atomic frequency standard, DRAFS, is about ready to start its qualification program. So that is -- to me, is a great success. Now we've got to get through qualification, but all indications are that, that clock is performing exceedingly well. So that process will start now. It takes a couple of months to get through qualification.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Was that #11 that you're trying to get on? Or were you able to get on #10?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • #10. SV10 is a GPS III satellite, not GPS IIIF. We will not be on 11 -- we won't be on the early GPS IIIF satellites. It will probably be the later ones.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Which is what number?

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Well, I don't know. That depends on the qual program and when Lockheed Martin elects to exercise its options.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any closing comments.

  • Stanton David Sloane - President, CEO & Director

  • Great. Thank you. Let me thank everybody for joining us today. It's been an interesting quarter, an exciting one, I think, from my point of view. And we look forward to updating you with more news next quarter between here and there. I would encourage you to watch the press releases and see how we're doing. So thanks, everybody. We'll talk to you next quarter.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation. Have a wonderful evening.