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  • Operator

  • Good day, everyone, and welcome to the FedEx Corporation third-quarter fiscal year 2013 earnings conference call.

  • Today's call is being recorded.

  • At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Mickey Foster, Vice President of Investor Relations for FedEx Corporation.

  • Please go ahead, sir.

  • - VP of IR

  • Good morning and welcome to FedEx Corporation's third-quarter earnings conference call.

  • I'd like to start by saying that we are planning an Investors and Lenders Meeting this fall in New York City, so please save the afternoon of Monday, October 28 for this event.

  • We will have more details in the next few months.

  • The third-quarter earnings release and our statistical book are on our website at FedEx.com.

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  • Joining us on the call today are Fred Smith, Chairman, President and CEO; Alan Graf, Executive Vice President and CFO; Mike Glenn, President and CEO of FedEx Services; Chris Richards, Executive Vice President, General Counsel and secretary; and Rob Carter's on vacation this week with his family so we have David Zanca, Senior Vice President of IT, here to answer your IT questions; Dave Bronczek, President and CEO of FedEx Express; Dave Rebholz, President and CEO of FedEx Ground; and Bill Logue, President and CEO of FedEx Freight.

  • And now our Chairman, Fred Smith, will share his views on the quarter.

  • - Chairman

  • Thank you, Mickey.

  • Good morning and welcome to our discussion of operating and financial results for the third quarter of fiscal 2013.

  • While FedEx Ground and FedEx Freight posted solid financial results, the third quarter was very challenging for FedEx Express due to continued weakness in international air freight markets, pressure on yields due to industry over-capacity, and customers selecting less expensive and slower transit international services.

  • In response, as Dave Bronczek will tell you after Alan Graf's remarks, beginning April 1, FedEx Express will decrease capacity to and from Asia, and will aggressively manage traffic flows to place lower yielding traffic in lower-cost networks.

  • We're assessing how these actions may allow FedEx Express to accelerate the retirement of more of its older, less efficient aircraft, as part of our fleet modernization program begun several years ago.

  • We remain focused on our strategic cost reduction programs, which are ramping up and on target.

  • FedEx has a long, successful history of flexing our networks to meet market conditions, and I'm confident the strategic profit improvement program we are implementing, as well as additional actions we're taking at FedEx Express, will increase margins, improve cash flows and strengthen our competitiveness over time.

  • I'd like to congratulate FedEx team members around the globe for once again making FedEx one of the 10 most admired companies in the world, according to a survey last month by Fortune magazine.

  • This honor, and others our team has received, reflect the outstanding reputation they've earned through their commitment to our Purple Promise, which says simply, I will make every FedEx experience outstanding.

  • Before I turn the microphone over to Mike Glenn for his comments on the economy, and then Alan Graf for a financial perspective, and as I mentioned Dave Bronczek on the Express issues, I'd like to recognize and thank Dave Rebholz, who is participating in his final earnings call as President and CEO of FedEx Ground.

  • Dave is retiring on May 31 after 37 years of service to FedEx.

  • He spent more than 30 years with FedEx Express, and during the last seven years has been largely responsible for the incredible success and growth of FedEx Ground.

  • Dave, on behalf of the entire FedEx team, thank you for your leadership, your friendship, and your wise counsel as a member of our Strategic Management Committee during this many years, and best wishes for your well-deserved retirement.

  • Now, Mike Glenn.

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Services

  • Thank you, Fred.

  • On the economic front, our forecast calls for modest growth in the global economy.

  • Historic revisions in incoming data since our last earnings call led us to adjust our GDP and industrial production numbers.

  • Our US GDP growth forecast is 2% in calendar '13 and 2.5% in calendar '14.

  • For industrial production, we expect growth of 3% in calendar '13 and 3.5% in calendar '14.

  • Housing and auto markets have shown improvement.

  • E-commerce experienced mid-teen growth rates, and we've seen some inventory restocking taking place in the near-term.

  • Our global GDP forecast calls for 2.3% growth in calendar '13 and 3% in calendar '14.

  • The calendar '13 outlook certainly remains uncertain, due mainly to policy issues in the US, Europe, and China.

  • Now turning to yield commentary.

  • Excluding the impact of fuel, year-over-year Express domestic package yields increased 2.1%.

  • The increase was primarily driven by rate and discount improvements, followed by increased weight per package.

  • The FedEx Ground yield increased 1.9% excluding the impact of fuel, with the year-over-year increase driven by rate and discount improvements, and an increase in extra service charges.

  • Excluding the impact of fuel, international Express packages -- package yield declined 3% year-over-year, due to changes in product mix which were referenced earlier, rate and discount, and weight changes.

  • And finally, excluding the impact of fuel, FedEx Freight yield per hundred weight increased 1.7% year-over-year, with the increase primarily driven by rate and discount changes.

  • And now I'll turn it over to Alan Graf.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone.

  • Our third-quarter adjusted earnings per share of $1.23 excludes $46 million in cost for business realignment activities, primarily from the voluntary buyout program that we outlined in our profit improvement plan.

  • As Fred noted, Ground and Freight continue to post steady results.

  • However, our lower than expected results for the quarter and reduced full year earnings outlook were driven by third-quarter international revenues at Express, declining approximately $100 million versus our prior forecast, primarily due to accelerating customer preference for lower-yielding international services, lower rate per pound and weight per shipment.

  • Profitability was also impacted this year by one fewer operating day at Express and Ground, and two fewer days at Freight.

  • Now let's take a look at the segment results for the quarter, starting with Ground.

  • Ground continued its solid performance, with a 17% operating margin.

  • Average daily volume at Ground increased 10% from growth in our Home Delivery service and increases in our commercial business.

  • Meanwhile, SmartPost volumes grew 26% through growth in e-commerce.

  • Operating income increased slightly, while operating margin was lower, as the benefit of higher volume and revenue per package was mostly offset by higher purchase transportation, a favorable self-insurance adjustment in the prior year, higher network expansion costs, one fewer operating day as I mentioned earlier, and inter-company charges of $9 million associated with the business realignment program.

  • One-time items, such as the insurance benefit and the realignment costs, drove the majority of the difference in margin year-over-year.

  • Freight continues to leverage the benefits of an integrated network.

  • Freight's operating results improved, with LTL yield growth and increased average daily LTL shipments, along with ongoing improvements in operational efficiencies.

  • This is the first positive profit in the third quarter for Freight since 2008.

  • Freight's profitability for the quarter improved, despite 17% higher depreciation and amortization expense from continued investment in transportation equipment and technology.

  • As a result of our higher utilization of rail, and other fuel efficiency improvements, Freight's fuel costs were 5% lower year-over-year.

  • Turning to Express, our results for Express reflect a significant decline in profitability due to the ongoing shifts in demand to lower-yielding international services, a trend that has continued to accelerate this year versus our previous expectations.

  • Results were also impacted by lower international yields, as lower rate per pound, lower weight per shipment and lower fuel surcharges have all impacted yields for international.

  • Given the persistence of this trend, additional cost-cutting actions are underway for the line haul network, which represents a significant part of our cost to provide our international services.

  • We are reducing our Trans-Pacific capacity on April 1. Flight hour reductions will lead to savings in fuel, crew and maintenance costs.

  • We will align our global networks to better match yields with the appropriate cost-to-serve network, taking advantage of the increased capabilities at FedEx Trade Networks.

  • Some of the actions we are evaluating may involve temporarily or permanently grounding older, less efficient aircraft, which could result in asset impairment or other charges in future periods, and Dave Bronczek will have more to say about this when I conclude my remarks.

  • I'd like to now look at our profitability and improvement programs and our outlook.

  • In addition to taking actions to reduce our network costs at Express due to the recent trends, we are also continuing to implement our profit improvement plan for the Corporation, as discussed at our October Investors and Lenders Meeting.

  • As part of our plan, in Q3 we began implementing our voluntary buyout for eligible US-based employees.

  • Certain Officers and Managing Directors accepted the voluntary buyout, as we adjust our leadership team to our new organizational structure.

  • In mid-February, eligible US employees were offered voluntary buyouts with a deadline of April 1 to accept.

  • Employees that accepted buyout will be scheduled to vacate their positions in phases, to ensure a smooth transition and maintain service levels to our customers.

  • Employees in the first phase will leave on May 31, and we expect all employees who accept the buyout to vacate their positions by the end of FY '14.

  • The pretax cost of the voluntary buyout program will be approximately $450 million to $550 million in FY '13.

  • Actual costs will depend on employee acceptance rates.

  • Costs of the voluntary program will be recognized when eligible employees accept their offers, predominantly in Q4 of FY '13.

  • Additional costs will be incurred beyond FY '13, primarily related to facility optimization and professional fees associated with our ongoing IT transformation projects.

  • While the estimated range for the FY '13 cost of the voluntary buyout program is approximately $100 million lower than our previous forecast, we still expect the same savings from our business realignment activities.

  • The estimated range is lower due to facility closures that we originally expected in late FY '13, which will now occur in FY '14.

  • Also, significantly deferred hiring of open positions reduced our need to offer voluntary buyouts in some cases.

  • Other ongoing profit improvement initiatives for Express include aircraft modernization, pick up and delivery productivity, aircraft maintenance processes, fuel consumption best practices, and further facilities rationalization.

  • In addition to continued profit improvements in the base businesses at Ground and Freight, our profit improvement programs are targeting annual profitability improvement at FedEx Express of $1.6 billion by the end of FY '16 from the full year FY '13 results.

  • Looking ahead, based on the economic outlook that Mike discussed, we project diluted earnings per share of $1.90 to $2.10 for the fourth quarter, and $6 to $6.20 for FY '13.

  • Both of these ranges do not include charges related to the Company's business realignment.

  • All the profit improvement initiatives discussed are expected to increase margins, improve cash flows, and increase our competitiveness.

  • Now I'd like to turn the call over to Dave Bronczek, who will discuss Express in more detail.

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • Thank you, Alan, and Fred and Mike.

  • And I'm going to talk about something they all talked about, and basically start off with -- I wanted to say that at Express, the $1.6 billion that we gave you at the Investors and Lenders Meeting in October is well on track.

  • We told you that 75% of that benefit would accrue in FY '15.

  • That's still the case, and in fact in some categories we're exceeding even those estimates.

  • I also wanted to stop and say that in our domestic business, we're performing actually very well.

  • Our average daily volume this quarter was up 1%.

  • Domestic yields, that Mike Glenn pointed out, was up 2.1%.

  • Domestic US Freight was up 3%, and domestic US yields in Freight was up 3%.

  • So our business in the United States, domestic Express is performing very well.

  • The international business and the international trends is what I'm going to talk about for the remaining of my time, and those trends have shifted, the marketplace has shifted this quarter.

  • And to show you how much it shifted, the revenue this quarter in IP, International Priority, was down 4%.

  • The revenue was down in International Priority Freight by 13%.

  • Yields for international exports were down 3%, and overall IP Freight yields were down 1%.

  • So we have a yield issue that exaggerated itself this quarter over last quarter.

  • The other issue that we're dealing with is actually something you would think was a good problem for us to have.

  • Total international export volume was up 4%.

  • That, however, was driven by a 12% growth in deferred international export traffic, mainly led out of Asia and Europe.

  • So we had a lot of freight, a lot of freight on our planes; our high load factors, quite frankly, were driven by the deferred traffic.

  • So we had lower yields, we had more traffic, higher pounds, all in deferred traffic.

  • So what Fred and Alan have said is we started in November, actually, to start moving our line haul network down, and tweaking some of our network around the world.

  • We're big enough to move our network around, and I'm going to talk about that in a minute here, with actually -- without affecting service to our customers.

  • So in November, we began the process.

  • April 1, we're moving our Trans-Pacific line haul capacity down, because we have markets that have multiple aircraft in them.

  • We're going to be forcing a higher-yielding revenue component into our planes, while we're reducing our costs, moving some of that lower-yielding deferred international economy freight into lower-cost networks, primarily our FedEx Trade Networks network, and our own deferred network, and by doing so we'll actually improve the overall yields into our network that is actually going to be reducing its costs, and that's the beginning of our outlook for our international line haul.

  • That starts April 1.

  • Beyond that, we're looking at the rest of our global line haul that also has multiple airplanes in multiple markets, that we can actually force the revenue yield and quality of the revenue into our existing network while reducing our costs.

  • So as Alan and Fred both pointed out, we're going to take this opportunity off of the third-quarter market shift to look at our fleet, and in fact if we have some of our airplanes that are inefficient for fuel and maintenance, and determine throughout the quarter if we have some airplanes that we can retire.

  • Going back to the issue at hand, Q3's performance on international revenue driven by yields was the issue.

  • We actually had more volume.

  • So we're resetting the Express capacity.

  • We're resetting the revenue forecasting.

  • And going forward, we're actually going to take a very hard look at all of our expenses at international, but the main expense for international is our global line haul.

  • Q3 to Q4, Q4 is significantly improved over Q3.

  • So in Alan's guidance and in his outlook, you'll have an Express Q4 performance that's significantly better than Q3.

  • We're ready for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • We ask that you limit yourself to one question to allow others the opportunity to pose their question.

  • You may also submit your question via email to ir@fedex.com.

  • Tom Wadewitz.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, good morning, and I think I probably said this before, but congratulations to Dave Rebholz, and wish you well in retirement.

  • So, a lot of things going on in international.

  • I wondered if you could give a sense of why -- what you think is happening in the market?

  • Whether this is a shipper-driven effect in terms of the trade-down and some of the weakness, and if you see that continuing and becoming more of an issue?

  • Is it somewhat of a competitive issue where, I think UPS had announced that they're doing -- starting to an offer an IP freight type of a product, where I don't think they've had that specific product in the past, and I think DHL's been aggressive.

  • But how do you think about what's really driving the issues in international, and how they might play out going forward, if they get any better or if it's just a challenge that persists?

  • - Chairman

  • This is Fred Smith speaking, and let me make a comment or two, and then Dave will put some color on it.

  • I'd like to refer you back to a speech I gave in May.

  • I mentioned this in the last quarterly call, I believe.

  • It's on our investor website.

  • And while I was the spokesman of this speech, obviously it reflects FedEx's belief about the trends in international trade and international transportation.

  • And I would urge you, if you're interested in this matter in depth, to read that presentation, because it lays out what has gone on in the international trading arena.

  • And the reality is that the American consumer drove international trade for a long period of time, and brought Europe back after World War II and helped bring China into the current fantastic economic powerhouse it is.

  • But policy decisions and the cost of fuel have radically changed the international trading situation.

  • So, last year you had a reduction of international air freight in its broadest sense -- again, I refer you to the Wings Club speech, of about 1.9% in terms of revenue freight kilometers, as it's measured, and you had about 1.9% increase in sea freight measured by TEUs, or 20-foot equivalent units.

  • So, trade has contracted relative to where it was before 2008, and the cost of fuel is such, along with the increasing cost in China, that these markets have been constrained.

  • At the same time, you have a lot of capacity that's come into the market.

  • So, I think the bottom line is, we got a little bit ahead of our skis, and we had more capacity out there into the heavier, more cost-sensitive air freight market, and that's what Dave is doing, is adjusting our capacity back so it's really focused more on the international priority, where our network is quite unique and has a competitive advantage.

  • Dave?

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • That's exactly right, Fred.

  • I think if you look at the market, you can see that it's over capacity, and because of that over-capacity, people are looking for a market shift in their pricing.

  • And the issue for us isn't that we don't have enough volume, we have too much volume in the wrong product in the wrong network.

  • As I mentioned before, our overall growth in deferred was 12%, and quite frankly, that's only because we had to cap it because our planes coming out of Asia were full; full of the wrong type of product.

  • So, we're moving the traffic into a lower-cost network.

  • We're opening up our Express freighters for truly IP, International Priority, traffic, and we're bringing down our cost of the capacity.

  • So, when you look at the marketplace, it shifted.

  • Right now, until the marketplace corrects itself on the over-capacity, we're taking the lead for our Business.

  • Operator

  • Justin Yagerman, Deutsche Bank.

  • - Analyst

  • Hey, guys.

  • Wanted to dig in I guess a little bit more on this international side, and try to figure out what's changing on the margin here.

  • It makes a lot of sense to move to third-party linehaul in some of this business because of the margin differential.

  • Is it the weakness because of over-capacity more in the air cargo market versus the parcel market that's actually taking place, with all the wide-body deliveries that have happened and that are scheduled to happen?

  • And then, when you take a look at your fleet, should we expect, when you balance out deliveries and retirements on a go-forward basis, that we'll see a net decrease in FedEx's fleet capacity?

  • And I guess the third part of that is -- what does that imply for CapEx on a go-forward basis?

  • So, I know a lot of pieces there, but trying to figure out if it's air cargo versus parcel, what the net impact is to FedEx's fleet, and then how does that impact your capital plans on a go-forward basis?

  • - Chairman

  • This is Fred Smith speaking.

  • I'm going to turn it over to Dave about the fleet, and then he and Alan can talk about the go-forward CapEx.

  • It is the air cargo market, and the air cargo market is -- as I mentioned a moment ago, has been adversely affected by lower economic growth around the world, caused by the policy choices that are now reflected in the European situation, relatively low growth in the United States, and China's situation.

  • So, the international Express business is still growing -- the door-to-door part of the business.

  • And these aren't new things, they just perhaps have accelerated a little bit because of this over-capacity situation.

  • And over the last couple of years, Dave Bronczek has done a great job of readjusting our deliveries of capacity, pushing off 777s and bringing in the 767s, which have an immediate accretive effect in the domestic system, so they're so much more fuel efficient than the airplanes they're replacing.

  • So, I'll let him talk about that, then Alan on CapEx.

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • Thanks, Fred.

  • That's right, it's the air freight market.

  • Our IP parcel we actually grew 2%, which is a good thing.

  • The issue is that we've got this big lane imbalance between Asia and the United States, and it keeps driving itself farther and farther, where you would actually have to put on more planes coming back from the United States back to Asia.

  • So, our goal is to take advantage of our network that's a global network, where we have multiple airplanes in some markets, pull them out, force the traffic that's truly IP into our planes, move into a lower-cost network, some of these lower-yielding packages, more lane balance the network around the world, and we have a lot of opportunities beyond just Asia to the United States.

  • We're looking at Asia to Europe and back, and so forth.

  • So, when you look at the marketplace, we have a lot of growth in it.

  • It's shifted to deferred, because you have over-capacity in the air freight market.

  • In terms of airplanes, yes, we're looking at ways to -- because of the pull-down in the international market there, look at ways to replace, or retire, I should say, older, more inefficient, fuel-inefficient maintenance planes sooner.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Justin, this is Alan.

  • Two points.

  • One, we're already seeing the benefit of flying fewer pounds at higher yields in the fourth-quarter guidance that I gave you, and that will continue into '14.

  • So, as Dave said, Express's performance in Q4 year over year will be a whole lot better than it was in Q3.

  • And there's been a lot of cost cuts that have already been done ahead of schedule.

  • Secondarily, from a CapEx standpoint, recall that Express's aircraft capital expenditures over the next two or three years are largely replacement.

  • And, if anything, we're going to accelerate that because we will be -- if we decide to make some elections to retire airplanes, they'll be the older airplanes that have significantly higher fuel burn, more maintenance, et cetera.

  • So, those capital investments we still want to make because they still have a high ROIC.

  • We're not taking but a couple of 777s over the next several years.

  • Most of those have been shoved way back.

  • So, whatever we come up with here will be the size of the fleet we're going to fly internationally for at least two or three years.

  • Operator

  • Nate Brochmann, William Blair.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning, everyone.

  • Wanted to talk a little bit, kind of shifting gears a little bit just away from the Asia/US kind of lane, but over in Europe, obviously with the big merger that kind of fell through with some of your competitors, how are you thinking about your opportunities there?

  • I mean, what are some of the current trends, and what are your investment outlooks there to take advantage of that growing region?

  • Thanks.

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • Well, let me -- this is Dave Bronczek again.

  • Our European organic strategy we put in place about 18 months ago has been performing exceptionally well.

  • We've opened 70 stations in Europe.

  • By the end of this fiscal year, it will be 87, and that's over a two-year period of time.

  • The service is great, volumes are growing.

  • As I mentioned before, Asia and Europe actually led the way for international export, but also in Europe.

  • So, we're actually very -- we're very comfortable with our position in Europe right now.

  • The markets are tough, but we're in a very good position there.

  • Obviously, we don't talk about acquisition opportunities now, and we -- for a lot of good reasons, as Fred always talks about.

  • So, I just wanted to point out -- our European team's doing a great job, very happy with their results.

  • Operator

  • David Ross, Stifel Nicolaus.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, good morning.

  • A lot has been talked about Express, I wanted to shift over to FedEx Freight for a bit.

  • It was barely profitable in the quarter, so was wondering -- does price need to go up there, or is density still weak and more terminals need to be closed?

  • Because the gap is just not being closed with the competition, and the competition's all operating a lot better than FedEx Freight -- still a mile away from its former industry-leading operating ratio.

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Freight

  • David, this is Bill Logue.

  • Again, as Alan said, our quarter three was our strongest quarter three in five years, so we're most profitable in the quarter.

  • The challenging issues that we have in this quarter, obviously is December, January, February, and we've seen a significant impact from two less operating days this year.

  • That had a big impact on our numbers.

  • So, again, our overall Q3, from our perspective, again, we saw volume up, we saw yield up, and we saw weight up.

  • So, from that perspective, it was a good quarter.

  • We took on some charges from the buyout, as Alan mentioned, increased depreciation.

  • So, I think from that perspective, our business had a healthy Q3, and if you look forward, we saw productivity in the quarter being very strong as well.

  • So, again, our shipments per [50] were up 2%.

  • So, from our perspective, we had a good quarter, and as we move now into Q4.

  • So, Q3, best in five years for us, so that was good progress.

  • Operator

  • Ben Hartford, Baird.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning.

  • Could you provide some perspective on -- obviously, you're taking air freight capacity out of the Asian market, both inbound and outbound, but trends I guess into March, and the pace of factory activity coming back up online following Lunar New Year, been hearing some mixed data points as it pertains to that, and the trajectory of March air freight out of Asia at the moment.

  • Could you provide some perspective on that front?

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Services

  • This is Mike Glenn.

  • We don't provide monthly forecasts and projections regarding the business, but I would say that the trends have been stable.

  • We expect those to continue in terms of the shift in the mix of the business, so we don't anticipate any significant changes in the mix of traffic going forward.

  • I think the key for us, as Dave has mentioned several times, is the adjustments we're making to the network that allows us to leverage the global network that we have to improve the profitability in our international segment.

  • Operator

  • Bill Greene, Morgan Stanley.

  • - Analyst

  • Hey, there.

  • Good morning.

  • You know, Dave Rebholz, before we have you head on off for your retirement, I was wondering if I could ask you to just comment a little bit on your thoughts about growth in volumes?

  • Alan read sort of a number of items that affected the margins this quarter, but it is the second quarter we've seen incremental volume growth with margins that didn't go up.

  • So, I realize that maybe if we adjust for these things, margins might have been flattish, but I think it's safe to assume that at these kind of margin levels, it's tough to see the margins go up materially from here.

  • So, do you think the time has come to sort of slow the volume growth a bit, and focus a bit more on yields, to sort of get the profit growth instead of just growing the share?

  • How do you think about balancing those two?

  • Thank you.

  • - President & CEO, FedEx Ground

  • Well, all right, so you understand that the predominant factor was the year-over-year issue of the favorable self-insurance.

  • That is just simply a fact.

  • We continue to grow, not only in the second and third quarter.

  • We've picked up growth in the fourth quarter.

  • We're very confident and happy about that.

  • I think fundamentally that, while margins are unpredictable relative to weather and different issues that affect us, the timing of issues, the fact of the matter is, is that we have a better mouse trap.

  • Our service is absolutely supreme, and customers are coming and talking to us.

  • I think if you talk to my compadre, Mike Glenn, and the person who's going to replace me, who I have incredibly great faith in, Henry Maier, who I hired in the first year that I went up to Ground, for the purpose of replacing me and building the Organization and changing it, I don't see any end in sight.

  • Now, having said that, all of these issues come down to the fact that we have invested a lot of money, we've done it efficiently and effectively, to make sure that our service proposition is greater than the competition.

  • Put that another way -- when there are too many people that want to get in the door, you've got to raise your yields.

  • Having said that, we will look at every customer on an individual basis, and determine the value proposition that we each share, and essentially improve our margins.

  • Putting that aside, I see no risk in the Ground proposition value today.

  • I think we are on the right track.

  • We're moving in the right direction.

  • So, I would ask Mike to comment on the yield, but as a matter of fact, I think we're in a very good sweet spot.

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Services

  • Bill, I appreciate your comment, but I do want to remind you that Ground had 10% growth in the quarter, and our yields, excluding the impact of fuel, grew almost 2%.

  • So, I think that's very consistent with our strategy to work with our operating companies to find the right balance between volume growth and yield improvement to maximize the profitability.

  • And I would encourage you to look at the long-term trends that we've been able to produce here, and we're very confident in our ability to position the outstanding value proposition we have in the marketplace, and our sales team's doing a great job at that.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • So, Bill, this is Alan, just to answer your question, this Company's about driving cash flows, and we are perfectly happy with continuing to grow the top line while we maintain 17% or 18% margins at Ground, and have a 27.5% after-tax ROIC.

  • Operator

  • Chris Wetherbee, Citi.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, this is Alex Hahn in for Chris.

  • Just had a question about incremental capacity and investment in Ground.

  • Where do you think that's going, and do you think the network now is in a position to leverage future volume growth?

  • - President & CEO, FedEx Ground

  • Well, Alex, the good news about our problem is, we constantly have to balance this.

  • The growth in the demand at the right price point -- we will invest whatever is appropriate to take on new business.

  • However, we are well-suited moving forward.

  • Operator

  • Jeff Kauffman, Sterne Agee.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • David, congratulations and best of luck.

  • I have one question for Dave and one question for Bill.

  • On the international side, it sounds to me like what you're saying is the issue isn't growth, the issue is the wrong assets in the wrong place for the type of business you're seeing?

  • Is that the way to think about it, and that's really the whole point of this realignment?

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • Yes, we have the wrong -- we had high growth in deferred, which is good, as long as we put it in the right network that makes us more money.

  • And we open up our network that actually is there for the higher-yielding packages, and right now it's being overrun, almost, by the deferred traffic.

  • So, we're moving that traffic off of our Express freighters onto a more -- a lower-cost network, our FTN network, and some of our own deferred flights, and opening up the orange network, our priority network at Express, for the higher-yielding traffic.

  • So, when we do that, we actually force the capacity to go down, and force the revenue quality to go up.

  • Operator

  • Scott Group, Wolfe Trahan.

  • - Analyst

  • Hey, thanks, good morning, guys.

  • So, a question on the Express side.

  • So, the mix shifts seem worse than you were thinking, and you're trying to offset that with more capacity reductions than I guess you were initially thinking.

  • Net-net, how should that impact the $1.6 billion of profit improvement over the next few years?

  • And is there a point where, if the mix shift continues to accelerate more than you thought, where it's just impossible to offset with capacity?

  • And then maybe just separately on the domestic side, first-quarter volume growth in domestic Express in a couple years, do you think something's changing there and that's sustainable, or is this kind of just a one-off quarter on easy comps?

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • Well, I'll answer both questions.

  • On the $1.6 billion that I gave you in October, off of our FY '13 base, that's all still in place.

  • On the international side, I think I gave you $350 million in that $1.6 billion was on the international piece.

  • That's still in place.

  • We have probably more opportunity to try and beat that, quite frankly, with the way we're looking at our network going forward.

  • In the United States, we're performing very well.

  • The volumes, the yields, we're working with Mike Glenn and his sales team.

  • There's also a component in that $1.6 billion in our US transformation, and that's on plan, and quite frankly, our team's doing a great job there.

  • So, we just are adjusting our network right now, and we are big enough to do that and become more profitable there.

  • - Chairman

  • This is Fred Smith speaking.

  • We've made this point a couple of times on these calls, and at the Investor Day back in October.

  • The Express market is going to be around forever.

  • I mean, the growth in Ground is outstanding, and it's a much bigger market in terms of units.

  • But the types of things that go into the Express network, things that require time-certain long-distance delivery, are going to continue to be a requirement for shippers.

  • It's just the ratio of the Express shipments to the Ground shipments.

  • And I think what you saw in this quarter was sort of a stabilization of the Express/Ground ratio.

  • There's certainly e-commerce driving a lot of traffic for Ground, and some proportion of e-commerce requires Express delivery.

  • So, that's really what you're seeing.

  • Operator

  • Ken Hoexter, Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, good morning.

  • Just to follow up on that, Bill.

  • If you look at the profit improvement plan, and you're already talking about cutting more aircraft a quarter after a multi-year kind of program was set, does that mean, when you look back, you didn't go far enough in terms of adjusting the network?

  • I just want to understand how you think about how you need to reshape that domestic network, as you're just about to enter the real part of the SG&A savings and network realignment?

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Freight

  • Well, let me be clear.

  • It's really the global network that we're talking about here.

  • We have an opportunity, and I've challenged my team to -- we have some older planes, 727s, and some tri-motors, that if we could retire them earlier, after what I told you before, would be better.

  • But it's really across the world, and it's on a global basis.

  • Operator

  • Brandon Oglenski, Barclays Capital.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, good morning, everyone.

  • I was wondering, can we talk a little bit about your international domestic operations as well?

  • It looks like -- obviously, you've had a lot of acquisitions there, and the comps are impacted by those.

  • But when I look at your purchase transportation at the Express segment, it looks to be growing in line or maybe even a little bit above the revenue growth in international domestic.

  • Is there any correlation there, and can you talk to the opportunities in those new networks, and where the profit targets might be in the future?

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • Yes, on that purchase transportation line, it looks like it's growing 30%.

  • It's actually in the base growing 2%, only 2%.

  • It's acquisitions and FTN, which is a good thing.

  • Our domestic acquisitions are perfect for our Company, and we will start harvesting the returns and the profit opportunities in the very near future going forward.

  • But on the purchase transportation, that 30% growth is in the base only 2%.

  • Operator

  • Thomas Kim, Goldman Sachs.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks very much.

  • There's obviously been a lot of focus on Asia and Europe, and I was wondering if you could just take some time to elaborate and remind us about the FedEx opportunities, particularly with Lat Am, given the tremendous air freight growth we continue to see out of those markets, and then perhaps to a certain extent, the Middle East?

  • Thank you.

  • - Chairman

  • Well, Dave can talk about this more -- in greater detail, but the Latin American market is, in fact, growing.

  • We have a great position there, a great management team.

  • We made an acquisition in Mexico; we made an acquisition in Brazil.

  • So, we're very optimistic about the prospects for Latin America, and we have a good position there.

  • A lot of the air freight market, the traditional air freight market in Latin America, are perishables, and we have a position in that market to some degree.

  • But as the acquisitions become integrated and turn from an expense to a positive, as Dave told you, we're very optimistic about our Latin American results.

  • Dave's got a better focus perhaps on the Middle East, and he can give you some comments on that.

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • I will, Fred.

  • Thank you.

  • I'll talk about Latin America for a minute, though.

  • Juan Cento is our Head of Latin America; he is a fantastic executive.

  • We acquired two terrific companies -- one in Mexico, one in Brazil.

  • Same cultural fit, same great service, same great market presence, same great customer base, and we're going to see terrific returns when we harvest the profitability there.

  • We had to go through the obvious branding, the IT integration, but we're well on our way there.

  • So, you're going to see more, very good performance out of Latin America.

  • In the Middle East -- of course, in the Middle East they're performing well.

  • We have another acquisition in India that we lump into our Middle East region.

  • That's actually improving, and some of the linehaul adjustments across the world actually affect the -- India and the Middle East in a positive way.

  • Operator

  • Kelly Dougherty, Macquarie.

  • - Analyst

  • Good morning, gentlemen.

  • Thanks for taking the question.

  • You mentioned being more return-on-invested-capital-focused at Ground.

  • But does that make you -- does that mean then that this 17% to 18% margin level is where things stay, as the mix of B to C increases?

  • Or are there some other levers that you can pull to move those margins higher in Ground?

  • And maybe, where do you think they go from here?

  • - President & CEO, FedEx Ground

  • Well, there are plenty of levers.

  • I think the capital investment is in exactly the right spot.

  • If you look at our past, it has been consistent.

  • And we've been able to provide a good return, as evidenced by our ROIC, as Alan said earlier.

  • There's nothing that is at risk.

  • We are very judicious on how and where we spend money, and we're very judicious about, as I said earlier, the right return from customers that come in the door.

  • So, we will spend money when we can make money -- end of story.

  • Operator

  • Scott Schneeberger, Oppenheimer.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks.

  • Good morning.

  • A three-part question in Ground.

  • Part number one -- could you just recap and assess the Holiday season, now that we're all the way through, and just the positives and negatives that you saw there in the Ground category?

  • Number two -- the yield was a little bit lower than anticipated throughout Ground, and just how impactful were higher postal rates in SmartPost?

  • Just how should we think about that going forward?

  • It was kind of addressed earlier, but if you can touch on that.

  • And then lastly, weather impact in the quarter in Ground?

  • Thank you very much.

  • - President & CEO, FedEx Ground

  • All right.

  • This is Dave.

  • Let's take the weather last.

  • Every year has its own experiences with weather.

  • And clearly, this past year there were some unique circumstances but, frankly, we were able to perform effectively, and as evidenced by our contractor model, our contractors rose to the occasion.

  • So, from a service standpoint, it was great.

  • From a cost standpoint -- in any kind of weather situation, no matter what organization you're talking about in transportation, you have a lagging effect.

  • So, you might get hit for a week of bad weather; you get some recovery as people rebound.

  • So, put that aside.

  • That is just simply a nominal issue.

  • In terms of -- so, you had a three-part question.

  • I want to make sure I answer them correctly.

  • So, go back to your first question, because I want to make sure I have it right -- the Holiday.

  • All right.

  • - Analyst

  • Right.

  • - President & CEO, FedEx Ground

  • So, what happened in the Holiday?

  • The Holiday was a great season for us.

  • All of our large customers had exceptional demand.

  • There was clearly demand from the online world that probably had not been experienced historically.

  • That was good for them, and that was good for us.

  • We recovered.

  • We handled the business.

  • We handled at a high level of service.

  • Understand that when demands are high, we're going to spend some extra money to make sure that the customers who do business with us all year long are satisfied with our performance during the two weeks.

  • So, I think that the retail sector is very healthy.

  • There are some changing dimensions.

  • We are prepared to handle it with our three bottom-line product portfolios -- Ground to commercial, Ground to home, and our SmartPost product portfolio.

  • In terms of SmartPost, the only thing that we were surprised by was the relative rate increase from the postal service.

  • We are well-positioned to handle those rate increases, and our customers value the product portfolio, and we're very well-positioned to handle additional growth in that network.

  • And I think our partnership, as their largest customer, puts us in a position to continue to grow.

  • - EVP & CFO

  • Scott, this is Alan.

  • Let me just clarify one thing you said, that the Ground yields were less than anticipated.

  • That's your words.

  • They came in almost exactly where we thought they would be.

  • And a little bit of the margin issue year over year is that we had a higher peaking factor in Ground this year.

  • And that's what Dave was referring to, that the higher the peaking factor, the more temporaries and the less productivity that you get, when you get to those higher peaking factors.

  • So, some of that extra peaking traffic did not carry the same margins in this year's peak as in last year's peak.

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Services

  • Scott, let me just make one comment about, as we -- as part of our revenue management process, when we bring on a large customer, especially in the e-commerce segment, we do a lot of work with the operating company to look at not only the impact of the volume and yield in non-peak season, but how the traffic peaks during peaking season, and how it's going to affect the overall profitability of the opportunity.

  • So, we do a lot of extensive work to work closely with Ground, to make sure that we have a clear understanding of the impact of e-commerce in peaking as it relates to our margins.

  • So, a lot of effort there, and I think the Ground Company did a phenomenal job in providing outstanding service during peak season.

  • Operator

  • Derek Rabe, Raymond James.

  • - Analyst

  • This is Derek Rabe on for Art Hatfield.

  • You were granted licenses to operate a domestic Express network in eight cities in China back in September.

  • Can you just talk about customer response to this shift so far, and any growth opportunities or speed bumps you have encountered or see going forward?

  • Then also, are there any progress updates toward country-wide access there?

  • - Chairman

  • This is Fred Smith speaking.

  • I'm going to have Dave talk about it in greater detail.

  • We have a very large domestic business in China.

  • I don't know how this kind of has been obscured over the years.

  • We actually serve 400 cities in China, and we got that domestic network by acquiring our joint-venture partner some years ago.

  • Then the Chinese government passed a different law that requires you to be re-licensed under a different part of the China government.

  • So, they issued these licenses, and they've assured us that our domestic operation over time will be re-licensed, if you will.

  • But in the interim, that domestic business continues to operate and grow, and we're very excited about it because of its unique capabilities.

  • And it's one of those areas that could be lumped into the category that Dave was talking about that will start producing profits in the years to come after having built this network.

  • Dave, you want to add anything on that?

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • Fred, you said it exactly right.

  • We have worked with the Chinese government.

  • It's business as usual for us.

  • We do serve 400 cities there in China.

  • We're making great strides there, and we've been in China for a lot of years.

  • So, our international business is very big there.

  • Our domestic business is growing there.

  • And we think that in the very near future, this will be very accretive for us, that domestic business in China.

  • Operator

  • Kevin Sterling, BB&T Capital Markets.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Good morning, gentlemen, and Mr. Rebholz, congratulations on your upcoming retirement.

  • I know we talked a lot about Express.

  • You talked about managing the traffic flows, to place low-yielding traffic in low-cost networks.

  • As I think about the growth in your FedEx Trade Networks, does this mean we could see an even greater focus on the ocean, and will you be looking maybe to drive some of that lower-yielding traffic maybe to the water?

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Express

  • Yes, we've had terrific growth in our FedEx Trade Networks organization, and they've done a fabulous job over the last three years, almost tripling or quadrupling their growth.

  • That will continue.

  • The customers have a great -- they can track-and-trace the same.

  • They can use the same sales organization.

  • So, the opportunities for us to grow our FTN, our Trade Networks organization, continues to be very big, because we started off in a modest organization a couple years ago, and I think that this opportunity now that presents itself will let customers see how good our service opportunities are at Trade Networks.

  • - President & CEO of FedEx Services

  • Yes, let me just add that -- I want to make sure we're clear here.

  • The changes that we're talking about in our network are not designed to take traffic out of our airplanes and put it on the ocean.

  • The market will drive the trends in terms of the mix between air freight and ocean traffic, and we are looking to make sure that we have the right product in the right network to maximize profitability.

  • But as Fred noted earlier, we do see growth in the overall market in the ocean side, and some pressure on the air side, but that's a different issue than what we're talking about here in terms of right-sizing the network.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • This does conclude today's question-and-answer session.

  • I would like to turn the call back over to Mickey Foster for closing remarks.

  • - VP of IR

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  • Operator

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