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  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the FactSet Q1 2020 Earnings Conference Call.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • I would now like to hand your conference over to your speaker today, Rima Hyder.

  • Please go ahead, madam.

  • Rima Hyder - VP of IR

  • Thank you, Marcella, and good morning, everyone.

  • Welcome to FactSet's First Fiscal Quarter 2020 Earnings Call.

  • We join you today from our brand-new global headquarters in Norwalk, Connecticut.

  • Before we begin, I would like to point out that the slides we will reference during the course of this presentation can be accessed via the webcast on the Investor Relations section of our website at factset.com.

  • The slides will be posted on our website at the conclusion of this call.

  • A replay of today's call will be available via phone and on our website.

  • After our prepared remarks, we will open the call to questions from investors.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Before we discuss our results, I encourage all listeners to review the legal notice on Slide 2, which explains the risks of forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures.

  • Additionally, please refer to our Form 10-K and 10-Q for a discussion of risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements.

  • Our slide presentation and discussions on this call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures.

  • For such measures, reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are in the appendix to the presentation and in our earnings release issued earlier today.

  • Joining me today are Phil Snow, Chief Executive Officer; and Helen Shan, Chief Financial Officer.

  • I'd now like to turn the discussion over to Phil Snow.

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Rima, and good morning, everyone.

  • We begin our fiscal '20 with growth across most of our businesses, and I want to remind everyone that our first quarter is typically the smallest of the year, and it's important to look at half and full year performance as more appropriate measures of progress.

  • I'm pleased that we have a healthy pipeline for the first half of our fiscal year, especially against the backdrop of sustained industry pressures.

  • On our last earnings call, we outlined a 3-year plan to accelerate the breadth and depth of our investments in targeted areas within content and technology, with the goal of driving higher top line growth over the long term.

  • Our team has hit the ground running, delivering encouraging early progress in Q1.

  • Within content, our deep sector and private markets efforts are proceeding at pace.

  • And we've hired more sector experts following the launch of our successful banking regulatory data.

  • We're making good progress integrating third-party private markets data into FactSet and are expanding our valued StreetAccount coverage into new markets.

  • We believe this expansion of coverage will resonate across all of our business lines, particularly research and wealth.

  • Our continued efforts to grow our tech stack are also yielding early results.

  • We've tripled the number of APIs available since the start of the fiscal year and are on track to release more in the second quarter.

  • Our migration to the public cloud is well underway, and we've identified opportunities to reduce our fixed data center costs in the long run.

  • From a product perspective, we're building momentum in analytics with multi-asset class risk, fixed income and Vault, our new performance measurement product, each showing particular strength.

  • We're also very pleased with our wealth pipeline and the positive response from clients.

  • Finally, we see growing demand for our open solutions.

  • We announced this quarter that FactSet is now available on OpenFin, and we're proud to be the first market data provider to do so.

  • As early adopters of the shift to more open and flexible product [and access], we believe that wind is on our backs, and we will continue to deliver information to clients where, when and how they want it.

  • In sales, we've evolved our compensation plan and sharpened our focus on client retention and expansion.

  • These changes include growing our strategic client group, which looks after our top accounts to cover more clients and build upon the strong C-level relationships we have in the industry.

  • We're also expanding our new business and sales engineering teams to capitalize on increasing technology opportunities.

  • While these collective measures will take time to impact our top line as the industry evolves, we're continuing to take proactive steps from our position of strength to ensure continued growth.

  • Looking at ASV in total, ASV plus professional services grew at 4%.

  • This growth rate reflects a decrease in ASP in the quarter, driven by higher-than-expected cancellations in research and a decrease in our add-on business, where we sell to -- cross sell to existing clients.

  • In addition, new business sales increased year-over-year as we added more clients this quarter.

  • Overall, we see continued cost pressures among institutional asset managers and churn within our banking clients.

  • However, it's important to remember that the large banks are long withstanding clients of FactSet, and when they hire later in our fiscal year next summer, we accordingly expect to benefit.

  • This quarter, once again, we saw growth in users from corporate and private equity firms in area where we're investing.

  • In the Americas, we saw a healthy growth in wealth, asset owners and hedge funds.

  • This was offset by seasonal banking shown in our research business.

  • America's had a tougher comparison versus the first quarter of 2019 when we had larger deals that contributed to higher ASP.

  • We remain optimistic about the Americas as we deepen existing client relationships and capitalize on new business opportunities.

  • EMEA, we had positive momentum with the buy-side, with wealth and institutional asset managers.

  • This region is facing some of the same cost pressures we have previously seen in the Americas and uncertainty with regulations and the political environment.

  • Our pipeline looks healthy for the year with institutional asset managers, asset owners and wealth managers as we see a demand for our analytics solutions.

  • CTS was the main driver of the 10% growth in Asia Pacific, as we sold data feeds across the region, primarily to local data providers.

  • The opportunity in Asia Pac is with the buy-side, driven by risk solutions for asset owners and our analytics offerings for the institutional asset managers, especially for the investment portfolio life cycle.

  • We continue to be bullish about our opportunity in this region, and we're investing appropriately to capitalize on its potential.

  • In the first quarter, we also saw promising growth in wealth, CTS and analytics.

  • Wealth was the largest contributor as we continue to earn market share in this space.

  • Analytics was another bright spot, driven by the strong performance of fixed income and risk products, while CTS continued to see solid demand for core and premium data feeds.

  • Our adjusted operating margin and adjusted EPS came in strong this quarter.

  • And we believe that for this year, it will be more in line with our annual guidance as we continue to execute throughout the year in accordance with our investment plan.

  • In closing, I want to reiterate that our fiscal year is a tale of 2 halves.

  • Our pipeline is healthy, and we believe that we are on sound footing to deliver on the first half of our fiscal '20 and are well positioned for the year.

  • We have a proven track record of returning consistent long-term value to shareholders, a record that we firmly believe we will continue.

  • It is also increasingly clear that clients are demanding more open, flexible and efficient technology to help them manage change, an area where we continue to excel.

  • And as we execute our 3-year plan, early signs indicate that we are taking a winning path to ensure continued growth through expanded opportunities with existing clients, higher retention and new business.

  • Let me now turn the call over to Helen, who will discuss the specifics of our first quarter performance.

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • Thank you, Phil, and good morning.

  • It is great to be here with all of you.

  • We begin our fiscal 2020 with a solid operating performance.

  • 10% earnings growth and operating margin that continues to reflect the productivity and efficiency improvements made throughout 2019.

  • While we are at the beginning of our 3-year investment plan, we are on pace as we start to ramp up hiring and spend.

  • I will now walk us through the specifics of the quarter's results.

  • GAAP and organic revenue increased by 4% to $367 million and $368 million, respectively.

  • Growth was driven primarily by wealth, CTS and analytics.

  • For our geographic segments over the last 12 months: Americas revenue grew 4% and international revenue grew 5%, organically.

  • Americas benefited from increases in wealth, analytics and CTS.

  • International revenue was largely driven by analytics and CTS.

  • GAAP operating expenses for the first quarter totaled $253 million, a 1% growth over the previous year.

  • With revenues growing faster than expenses, our GAAP margin increased 230 basis points to 31%.

  • Adjusted operating margin increased to 34%, a 240 basis point improvement versus last year.

  • As a percentage of revenue, the expense improvement came largely from our cost of services, which was 240 basis points lower than last year on a GAAP basis.

  • On an adjusted basis, the improvement was 210 basis points.

  • Contributing factors include decreases in employee compensation, reflecting the continued mix shift from high- to low-cost locations as well as lower contractor fees.

  • This benefit was partially offset by an increase in computer-related expenses, as we continue to upgrade our technology stack.

  • SG&A expenses expressed as a percentage of revenue grew 10 basis points over the prior year period on a GAAP basis.

  • On an adjusted basis, we saw an improvement of 30 basis points.

  • This result is driven primarily by expense reduction in travel and entertainment, professional fees and lower bad debt expense and partially offset by higher employee compensation and higher rent expense associated with our move to the new headquarters.

  • We've been improving our operating margin over the past 4 quarters, reflecting our efforts to maintain disciplined expense management and to both grow and sustain productivity gains through our planned workforce mix.

  • We are pleased with the progress that we have made as it has given us the ability to redeploy capital back into the business in the key areas of content and technology.

  • On the last earnings call, we provided financial targets for FY '22.

  • To recap, our investments build incrementally at $15 million per year in each of the next 3 years, totaling an additional $45 million in the FY '22 expense rate.

  • As we noted, we expect our ASP growth rate to be in the high single digits, adjusted EPS growth at 10% plus and an adjusted operating margin at 33% plus in FY '22.

  • We have begun to execute on these projects, as Phil noted earlier, the spend we'll be building over the course of the year.

  • For fiscal year 2020, the majority of the costs will be people related.

  • We expect the level of expense to ramp up more heavily weighted in the second half of the year as we build out the resources and capabilities.

  • We believe we will be in line with our FY '20 guidance of 31.5% to 32.5% in operating margin, given the phasing of the incremental investment.

  • We remain confident in our investment strategy and plan.

  • Moving on, our tax rate for the quarter was 13.6%.

  • This rate included a few onetime items related to finalization of prior year tax returns and a change in tax rate in one of our foreign jurisdiction.

  • Excluding onetime adjustments, our quarterly tax rate would have been 17.3%.

  • Please keep in mind that when we provided annual guidance for our fiscal 2020, we did not include any onetime adjustments in tax rate.

  • GAAP EPS increased 12%, $2.43 this quarter versus $2.17 in the first quarter of 2019, primarily attributable to higher revenue and improved margins.

  • Adjusted diluted EPS grew 10% to $2.58.

  • A reconciliation of our adjustments to GAAP EPS is disclosed at the end of our press release.

  • Free cash flow, which we define as cash generated from operations less capital spending was $69 million for the quarter, an increase of 88% over the same period last year.

  • The improvement was primarily due to higher net income, an increase in cash collections and the timing of payables, partially offset by higher capital expenditures.

  • As noted on past calls, our CapEx is higher this year due to planned investments in technology as well as new office space build out for some of our locations where existing leases have neared expiration.

  • Last quarter, we looked to update our annual ASP retention metrics.

  • On further review, we have determined that the current methodology is aligned with our client retention metric and remains an accurate measure of ASP retention.

  • For the first quarter, our annual ASP retention continues to be over 95%.

  • We're also pleased to report that our client retention, the number of clients we retained over the last 12 months remained at 89%, and our client count grew 6% year-over-year.

  • Looking at our share repurchase program for the first quarter, we repurchased 343,000 shares for $84 million at an average share price of $246 per share.

  • Over the last 12 months, we have returned approximately $345 million to our investors in the form of dividends and share repurchases.

  • We remain committed to creating long-term value for our shareholders and plan to repurchase shares at a steady pace, in line with last year.

  • The improvement in our operating results over the course of fiscal year 2019 and the first quarter of this year reflects our progress in operational discipline and in the sustainability of the productivity gain.

  • We believe our plan to invest in more comprehensive and integrated content and in digital technology will fuel future top line growth which, in turn, is key to long-term value to our clients, employees and our shareholders.

  • With that, we are now ready for your questions.

  • Marcella, over to you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from the line of Peter Heckmann from D.A. Davidson & Co.

  • Peter James Heckmann - Senior VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • So just trying to make sure I'm understanding correctly.

  • I mean significant upside, maybe the spending didn't ramp as quickly as expected.

  • But is this -- does your guidance that -- imply that we should see negative adjusted earnings per share growth in the back half of '20?

  • And how do you then think about -- I know we had the 2022, but how do you think about that transitioning that into the first couple of quarters of '21?

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • Thanks for your question.

  • This is Helen.

  • So -- no, I don't -- what we're essentially going to be doing because we believe we would still end up with the same amount of spend for the year is that as it ramps up, we'll still be within that range.

  • And then at that run rate, we'll continue to see that through the first 2 quarters of '21.

  • Let me just give a little bit more color.

  • Most of the expense for this year are much more people related.

  • So it takes time to ramp up.

  • I would say if you look over the phasing of the year, it's roughly -- let's call it, 30% will be in the first half and the balance in the second half.

  • And so that's -- and then the technology spend is more in the latter half of the 3-year investment plan.

  • So it will be a little bit slow.

  • (inaudible) that it takes time to hire, but we don't expect that to be an issue as we think about the guidance we've given for the year.

  • Peter James Heckmann - Senior VP & Senior Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • That's helpful.

  • And then just while I have you, can -- you haven't talked too much about Portware and the company's efforts in trading.

  • Can you just give us a quick update there?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • Peter, it's Phil Snow.

  • So yes, we're seeing very positive momentum in the trading space over the last few quarters.

  • And a lot of that is attributed to, I think, the integration now of the EMS capabilities within [co-FactSet].

  • And we're also seeing good momentum with our OMS offering as well.

  • So just to remind everyone, we have execution capabilities.

  • We have order management capabilities.

  • And we've integrated those now into a portfolio management platform, which is also beginning to gain some traction.

  • So these are not big numbers right now, but the trend is positive, and we're very excited about that part of our Analytics Suite.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Manav Patnaik from Barclays.

  • Manav Shiv Patnaik - Director & Lead Research Analyst

  • My first question is just these cancellations that you called out this quarter, were they contemplated in your full year guidance?

  • And I was just hoping if you could just help maybe give us a little bit more color on how much of the guidance is assuming that you win a bunch of contracts over the course of the year?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Manav, it's Phil.

  • So I think that cancellations that we called out in Q1 was a little bit more of an expected cancellations within the sell-side across banking as well as research.

  • And very often, that's difficult to predict given the numbers are pretty large, and you're never sure sort of coming out of the hiring and into Q1 what that's going to look like.

  • And I think when we look at Q1, it's typically a smaller quarter for us, as I said in my script.

  • We did go back $2 million or $3 million this quarter.

  • But if you go back even a couple of years into fiscal 2018, that was a fairly small quarter for us as well.

  • So when we look out for the rest of the half, it's significantly weighted to Q2.

  • And when we look at the pipeline versus the pipeline last year, we feel very good about our opportunities as we head into the second quarter.

  • Manav Shiv Patnaik - Director & Lead Research Analyst

  • Got it.

  • And then maybe just your comments on growth in wealth.

  • What were the drivers there?

  • Was it just the ramp of the BAML contract?

  • Or was there a lot of single wins here and there?

  • Just curious if you could give a little bit more color there?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • So no -- I mean, we're doing very well at BAML.

  • I think that was obviously a great deal for us and was a significant contributor to Q1 last year.

  • So I think you could have expected some deceleration in this quarter, just given that was a tougher comp.

  • But we've had some very nice wins in wealth at larger firms within the Americas.

  • And we also are doing very well in the middle markets part of wealth and the pipeline is very healthy.

  • So there are some larger deals out there for us, which are a little bit more binary.

  • But just going back to the previous question, we're not relying on any like massive deals to come within the guidance range that we gave at the end of the year.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Hamzah Mazari from Jefferies.

  • Mario J. Cortellacci - Equity Analyst

  • This is actually Mario Cortellacci filling in for Hamzah.

  • Just kind of wanted to piggyback off the wealth question, and you mentioned that there's some binary wins, and it sounds like you're doing well in the middle market channel.

  • But I'm just wondering if, say, there's a larger deal and more consolidation in -- among the wire houses.

  • Just didn't know how you guys are positioned and obviously, when things as is or like you said, binary, but how are you positioned?

  • And how do you think you'll fare if there is some consolidation among the much bigger players?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • I think we'll fare well.

  • This is a greenfield area for us.

  • It's an area that we're not defending essentially, right?

  • It's all offense.

  • I think the product that we have is exceptional.

  • We've put a lot of effort into it.

  • A big piece of our investment strategy for the next 3 years is to just continue to bolster the wealth offering in terms of content as well as -- and technology.

  • There are some things that we're going to do there, I think, to make the life of the next-generation financial adviser and wealth adviser so much easier, and some of that's integrating our risk capabilities, some of that's taking cognitive computing to essentially make the life of the wealth adviser and the financial adviser much more efficient.

  • So this is a space we're super excited about.

  • Typically, when there's consolidation, it means disruption and there's an opportunity for a new comer like FactSet to come in and take a crack.

  • So we're in lots of RFPs.

  • These are big firms.

  • They are long contracts.

  • You don't win them overnight, but we feel exceptional about this piece of our business and the opportunity in front of us.

  • Mario J. Cortellacci - Equity Analyst

  • Great.

  • And just one more and I'll turn it over.

  • So like you said, there's a lot of white space in wealth and maybe this other part of the business isn't as big of a focus for you, but how much do you think your products lend in themselves to, say, commercial banking or insurance?

  • And -- or maybe you can give us a sense of how much you've explored those markets as well?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • So commercial banking is really interesting.

  • We had a pretty good win there.

  • I think it was last year in Asia Pac.

  • And that was a lot of seats, but admittedly at a lower cost.

  • But our web offering proved very good for that market, and I think we continue to explore some opportunities there.

  • We have pretty good business in insurance right now.

  • So what resonates with our insurance clients is our analytics products.

  • We've got a great multi-asset class risk product, which we continue to invest in.

  • And risk is one of the things I talked about in my script, it's -- we've got a lot of good momentum in the risk space.

  • The pipeline for risk looks really good, and some of that is at insurance companies.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Nicholas from William Blair.

  • Andrew Owen Nicholas - Analyst

  • In terms of the wealth pipeline, it sounds like you're waiting on a few larger decisions.

  • Any color on when you expect those decisions to be made?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Some of them are this fiscal year.

  • Some of them are further out.

  • Andrew Owen Nicholas - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then I was wondering if you could provide an update on momentum in analytics, particularly as it relates to kind of the sales force realignment as that gets further and further in the rearview mirror, just wondering if you could update us on progress with respect to sales momentum?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • Thanks, Andrew.

  • It's a great question.

  • So -- yes, so fixed income had a very good quarter, and we have a very good strong pipeline for fixed income.

  • And that was one of the areas that we did worse than last year than we hoped.

  • And the movement of the specialists back into the analytics area has really paid off.

  • So we've got some great leadership there.

  • The team is excited.

  • The areas that really are showing very strong momentum are fixed income, risk, Vault.

  • And Vault, to remind everyone, is kind of the combination of the BISAM performance product with traditional PA.

  • That is gaining a lot of momentum.

  • We're having a lot of unit sales with Vault.

  • The APIs within analytics are doing very well.

  • We see a ton of momentum there.

  • And I had mentioned, we tripled the number of APIs that we had in Q1.

  • And so a lot of that is our analytics APIs.

  • So all in all, we feel good about analytics.

  • I also mentioned our momentum there in the trading space.

  • And a lot of these are really the workflow solutions and the portfolio life cycle.

  • So we made a bunch of acquisitions 3 years ago.

  • It has taken us longer than I expected to get those integrated.

  • But I think what we're seeing now and out into the rest of the fiscal year is great momentum in those areas, the workflow solutions and helping the larger clients be more efficient from a technology standpoint.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Toni Kaplan from Morgan Stanley.

  • Toni Michele Kaplan - Senior Analyst

  • I wanted to ask another question on the research cancels.

  • Was it related to firms getting out of equities or banking or consolidation or firms closing or competitive losses?

  • Or just any sort of extra color you could give on what led to the cancels?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • Thanks, Toni.

  • It's Phil.

  • So -- yes, I think these are -- a lot of the cancels are typical in terms of the seasonal banking churn.

  • There were a couple of firms where we had some things happen that we didn't anticipate.

  • One was at a larger sell-side firm and the other was at a middle markers firm.

  • At the sell-side firm, it happened that we have a very strong relationship with.

  • I'm very excited about the opportunities moving forward.

  • I can't get into the specific details.

  • But clearly, there's pressure, particularly on the bigger firms.

  • We're feeling some of that.

  • I think that's what you're seeing in the numbers for Q1.

  • But we're doing lots of things right to work our way up the stack at these bigger firms, provide more solutions, and it's going to be a little bit choppy at some of them, but we feel good about the longer-term opportunity for us.

  • Toni Michele Kaplan - Senior Analyst

  • That's great.

  • And then for my follow-up, just wanted to find out how much FX-benefited margins this quarter?

  • And if there was anything onetime, if it wasn't FX that helped the margins just because they were a lot stronger than expected?

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • Sure.

  • Toni, thanks for your question.

  • So this quarter, the benefit of FX was about $1 million, which was actually less than in the previous year and obviously, a lot less than during the course of FY '19.

  • So that was not a material impact.

  • If you compare our margin this quarter to Q4, we're exactly the same, 33.9%.

  • So I think it's reflecting more of the consistency of the actions that we've put forth over the course of the year.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Alex Kramm from UBS.

  • Alexander Kramm - Executive Director and Equity Research Analyst of Exchanges, Ebrokers

  • Phil, you talked about your excitement of the, I think, 2Q launch of some of the more in-depth data around financial services or banks.

  • Can you just talk about the appetite there a little bit?

  • I think this is supposed to be a little bit of a SNL competitor, but one of the things that I'm also hearing is that, that competitor has a lot more different industries that they cover.

  • So some firms might still wait until you have the full breadth.

  • So I guess, how much is this going to be a niche solution for now and maybe in a few years, it's going to be a real competitor.

  • Can you just touch it out a little bit?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • Thanks, Alex.

  • So we -- so we're attacking around 8 sectors, I believe, over the next 3 years.

  • To your point, we can't get them all done this year.

  • So we have a very methodical plan to work our way through 8 sectors.

  • And we're doing it in the order that we think will have the biggest impact for us.

  • We've already hired all from the outside industry experts for each of these sectors.

  • So they're on board already this quarter.

  • So I think we did an exceptional job there hiring.

  • And it's going to depend on the firm essentially.

  • So some firms may just want 1 or 2 sectors.

  • Some may want all 8. Some may be very happy with 80% of the -- 20% of the functionality, but 80% of the value.

  • But we are seeing a very healthy appetite for more choice in this area.

  • And we feel that we're going to have some impact this fiscal year.

  • In fact, we already had, I think, one very good win.

  • I can't remember if it's in Q1 or in the pipeline for Q2 with another firm for the financial data that we have.

  • Alexander Kramm - Executive Director and Equity Research Analyst of Exchanges, Ebrokers

  • Okay.

  • Great.

  • And then just secondly, again, on the opportunity side, I mean, you mentioned the tough environment, which obviously all of us on this call probably know about.

  • I've been hearing a little bit more of an effort to reduce costs when it comes to the really expensive competitors of yours.

  • So I think you've been benefiting from that to some degree.

  • And I think you've done this all along over the last few years.

  • But are you seeing an acceleration in focus on cutting some of your more expensive competitors?

  • And is that going to be something that can help in the next couple of quarters?

  • Or is it business as usual from that perspective?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • I think we are seeing more of an appetite for that.

  • And I was on a recent trip to Europe, I had a couple of good meetings at larger firms, where, I think, historically, people have been given choice, and it's been a little bit more of a grassroots effort to do this.

  • But I'm -- what I'm feeling at a lot of these firms that are having more cost pressures is that there's going to be more of a top-down push to save costs and do some of what you just described.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Foresi from Cantor Fitzgerald.

  • Joseph Dean Foresi - Analyst

  • It seems like you're going through sort of maybe a portfolio shift because some of the buy-side stuff and sell-side stuff isn't working as well.

  • I'm sure we can all understand that.

  • When do you think you'll hit an inflection point where organic growth starts to accelerate because the portfolio has been right-sized?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Well, I'm hoping, Joe, that this is the inflection point.

  • And that when we talk to you in Q2, we can point to that.

  • Obviously, it's hard to predict the future.

  • But when I look at -- what I just described in terms of analytics, when I think about our CTS product suite, which we haven't talked a lot about today, but we're having exceptional momentum there selling our content.

  • The wealth pipeline, our efforts to fill out the portfolio life cycle, all of that is really great.

  • I think we are seeing, obviously, people pressure in our industry.

  • And a lot of pressure on the research side.

  • So that's the piece that's a little bit harder to kind of predict.

  • But we feel like we've got the right strategy, and we've got a team that's sort of really excited to execute even in what is a tough environment.

  • Joseph Dean Foresi - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • I guess my follow-up will be an old question.

  • Maybe we could start to get a breakdown from a percentage of revenue or you could just give us rough ballpark numbers around the new pieces of the business and what they're growing versus sort of the old pieces of the business so that we can kind of start to model out the inflection point ourselves.

  • I'm just wondering if there's any thoughts around that or if there's any general numbers because you said you hope that there's the inflection point that we're at right now?

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • This is Helen.

  • Thank you for your question.

  • A lot of what we provide is even when we talk to the clients are bundled as well.

  • So while we do track, we don't actually have plans right now to be breaking that out.

  • But certainly, we'll give you updates as we go on each call as best we can.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Shlomo Rosenbaum from Stifel.

  • Shlomo H. Rosenbaum - MD

  • Phil, just a quick question, not to beat that research cancellations to death, but is it people that are just no longer there or they're moving to a different platform?

  • I just want to understand the dynamic a little bit more?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • I don't have all of that detail, Shlomo.

  • I imagine some of it is just people pressure right within the research side that there's sort of less hiring going on.

  • Some of it may be competitive pressure.

  • I think there are situations there where we're taking market share and others are taking it from us.

  • Again, I'll point to the fact that it's typically a smaller quarter.

  • So we're calling it out this quarter just because it's one of the larger numbers.

  • But in the big picture, when you think about our numbers for Q2 and Q4, especially, I wouldn't read too much into that for this quarter.

  • Shlomo H. Rosenbaum - MD

  • But it's -- I guess what people are trying to figure out, is there any pickup in Refinitiv?

  • Is there anything going on in -- on the Cap IQ side that's becoming kind of nipping at your heels?

  • Is there any change in any of that stuff?

  • I guess that's really what I'm trying to get to.

  • Or is it just...

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Well still when I look at the competitive win/loss, we're still, I think, doing well from our market share -- taking market share standpoint.

  • Shlomo H. Rosenbaum - MD

  • Okay.

  • And then just Open:Factset, are there any additional metrics you can give us besides maybe some of the APIs?

  • How that's tracking?

  • Are you starting to generate any meaningful revenue over there?

  • Or just that seems like an interesting part of the business I want to delve into more?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • So we're beginning to get some momentum there.

  • There's different pieces to it.

  • So the piece that's generating, I think, the growth in CTS is really the data exploration platform that we've created.

  • So it's really the ability to come in and look at our content in addition to some of the open providers that we've added, some of the alternative data.

  • But a lot of the growth that you're seeing is really from FactSet-owned content, and we're beginning to see a pretty healthy pipeline for some of the alternative data providers that are combined with that.

  • It's -- I think it's as much the model and the ability to come in and begin programming in python, using Tableau, kind of what the analysts of the future and the data scientists of the future is going to want to use.

  • That's really the most exciting piece of it.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Bill Warmington from Wells Fargo.

  • William Arthur Warmington - MD & Senior Equity Analyst

  • So you had mentioned the strength in analytics, CTS and wealth and by application, I would take it that research had turned negative this quarter.

  • And I just wanted to confirm that and ask if that was really the result of the churn that you've mentioned?

  • And to ask how long you think it will take to return to low single-digit-type target growth?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • So you're right, Bill.

  • The other 3 businesses were positive this quarter, and research was negative.

  • Again, it's a smaller quarter.

  • So again, it's hard to predict.

  • We feel good about the research business as we look out for the rest of the year.

  • And on our last quarter, we gave sort of longer-term guidance for what we think that business can do.

  • The investments we're making in deep sector, in private markets and StreetAccount, all will, we believe, bolster that business and allow it to grow over time.

  • William Arthur Warmington - MD & Senior Equity Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then a follow-up question for you on the data feeds business.

  • That seems like a business that could potentially become commoditized.

  • And so I wanted to ask about what you guys are doing to differentiate your offerings there?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • So some of the data is unique.

  • Some is other people have it.

  • I think the value that FactSet has always brought to the marketplace over the last 40 years is the integration of content.

  • So you can deliver data sets all day out of a marketplace or a library.

  • But the hard work is integrating the data so that you can use it as one database and providing the tools to analyze the data.

  • So that's what we do.

  • We do very well.

  • Of course, it's great to have our own content as well to monetize.

  • But the real value for our content is how well it plays together and how well we can integrate it with other data sets and within other people systems.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of David Chu from Bank of America.

  • Jitaek Chu - VP

  • So related to a previous question, can you just provide some color on what you're seeing in terms of client budgets, overall?

  • I mean is cost-cutting more in focus versus, let's say, a year ago?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • David, yes.

  • Yes, I believe it is.

  • I think we -- this -- there are active managers, in particular, continue to be under cost pressure.

  • And it's up to FactSet to provide them tools that allow them to be more efficient.

  • And that's really -- that's the -- that's where it is with active managers.

  • If I talk -- if we think about other client types that are out there, we're making a lot of exciting progress in asset owners, which include plan sponsors and sovereign wealth funds.

  • That's an area of growth for us.

  • We're doing very well with hedge funds.

  • I mentioned that we were positive this quarter.

  • We're selling hedge funds a lot of CTS product.

  • We're seeing good momentum in private equity.

  • So that's an area that we're investing, but it's a smaller area of our business, but it's one that's growing pretty rapidly.

  • We're doing well in the corporate space.

  • That continues to build momentum for us.

  • So we're -- obviously, active managers are big piece of FactSet's business.

  • We're providing good long-term solutions for them, but there are other markets that we're going into that are -- that have a lot of great momentum.

  • Jitaek Chu - VP

  • Okay.

  • That's helpful.

  • And Helen, is the 1Q CapEx number a proper run rate for the year?

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • Thank you for that question.

  • Yes, it is about that.

  • We are expecting to be up year-on-year.

  • So I think we ended last year around $60 million, and we're looking more like an $80 million for this year.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Keith Housum from North Coast Research.

  • Keith Michael Housum - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Phil, as we look at the research environment, customers getting rid of some of their employees.

  • How protected is FactSet if one of your customers just goes from, say, 100 employees down to 50 employees?

  • Do you guys have minimums baked into your contracts that you're protected or not?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • We do in some cases.

  • So as clients have gotten larger and our footprint has gotten bigger with them, they've looked for, I think, more certainty within their budgets over time, and we do have floors in at some clients.

  • The other thing that we've made a transition towards -- and that continues is a bigger and bigger percentage of our ASV is tied to more workflow solutions and less people.

  • So the majority of what I just described in the analytics business has a lot less to do with seat count and a lot more to do with workflow and enterprise solutions.

  • And the feed is the same thing.

  • So obviously, it's an evolution.

  • It won't happen overnight, but I think it's the right strategy for us and one that we're already capitalizing on.

  • Keith Michael Housum - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • So -- and so if I understand then as research consolidates further next year, you guys will have some protection with some of your contracts based on some of the floors, some you may not?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes, I think that's right.

  • Keith Michael Housum - MD & Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Great.

  • And then if I just turning to the international side, international revenue is down compared to the last 2 quarters.

  • Was there anything unique, I guess, the end of last year that affected that revenue?

  • Or anything unique in this quarter that your revenue declined actually sequentially?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • I don't think there's anything unique.

  • Europe clearly is under, I think, probably more pressure than the Americas and Asia Pac.

  • We see a ton of opportunity in Asia Pac.

  • It's hard to imagine that not continuing if we make the right moves there.

  • But Europe is under a lot of pressure for a lot of different reasons.

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • As Phil's mentioned before, I mean, I think the pipeline is healthy, and we have seen some good new business growth.

  • So as we think for the rest of the year, we would -- we're feeling more positive about the growth rate.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Kevin McVeigh from Crédit Suisse.

  • Kevin Damien McVeigh - MD

  • Phil, with -- obviously, Refinitiv is changing hands twice within the last 18 months or so.

  • As they become part of the LSE, any thoughts from a competitive perspective.

  • Does that change the behavior on the continent at all?

  • Or even in the current form, as part of Blackstone, have you seen any competitive dynamic shift?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • Thanks, Kevin.

  • I've obviously thought a lot about that.

  • I -- it doesn't feel to me that the combination of LSE and Refinitiv is going to be much different, frankly, to us than what we've been dealing with from a competitive standpoint with Refinitiv over the last couple of decades.

  • So there's still uncertainty, I would think, within both the client base and their employee base in terms of what's happening.

  • And we're just capitalizing on that uncertainty right now.

  • Kevin Damien McVeigh - MD

  • And with that, it'll kind of lay the opportunity to the extent for any -- as you're kind of integrating, would you see competitive advantage on that?

  • If you were to look at other points in history, does that free up incremental opportunity or no?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • I'm not sure I understand the question.

  • Kevin Damien McVeigh - MD

  • I guess, as you're consolidating, I'm sure they see disruption in their sales force.

  • Do you take advantage of that?

  • Is there an opportunity to capture incremental share?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes, yes, I think so.

  • So -- yes, I think that's what I was trying to describe.

  • Yes, there's uncertainty in the client base and in their employee base.

  • There's opportunity for us to go into clients and have conversations and take market share.

  • Kevin Damien McVeigh - MD

  • Got it.

  • And then just quick follow-up.

  • The investments you're making in kind of the research product, when do you think the earliest you'll see -- start to see the revenue benefit from that?

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • So overall, when we think about both the content and technology, we see minimal in this year.

  • But as it ramps up, in general, we would expect to see about 25% of the total growth coming in year 1 -- year 2, excuse me, 2021, with the balance coming into 2022.

  • So it's more of a back ended in terms of the lift.

  • Operator

  • Your next question comes from the line of Craig Huber from Huber Research Partners.

  • Craig Anthony Huber - CEO, MD, and Research Analyst

  • Yes.

  • I think I missed the first few minutes to your comments, but I wanted to hear was there any major cancellation fees that showed up in your revenues in the quarter you guys just reported here?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Cancellation fees?

  • Craig Anthony Huber - CEO, MD, and Research Analyst

  • Well, for many clients of yours -- do you have any revenue that was pulled forward to account for revenues up to $2.5 million sequentially.

  • Your ASV, of course, was down slightly versus 3 months ago, I guess, only the third time in the last 20 years or so.

  • I'm just wondering if there's any clients that canceled or any revenues that were recognized pulled forward maybe to some degree in the November quarter?

  • My first question.

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • Right.

  • Sure.

  • This is Helen.

  • No, we don't see that.

  • There was no pull forward due to cancellation from clients.

  • So that's not how our model works.

  • And so that's not a driver at all.

  • Craig Anthony Huber - CEO, MD, and Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then my other question, again, with the ASV down slightly versus 3 months ago, you went through your confidence level of wealth and CTS, et cetera.

  • It sounds like you're still comfortable with the $65 million to $85 million increase in ASV.

  • Is that your thinking that's more back-end weighted for the year?

  • And...

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • Correct.

  • So we believe that this year, in particular, it's always back-end weighted.

  • I think if you go back historically, it's maybe somewhere between 60-40, just in terms of the split.

  • But the way that we thought about this year and the way that we've sort of modeled out our plan, we believe that the second year -- the second half of the year is going to be more heavily weighted than typical.

  • And we're still feeling good about the guidance range that we issued last quarter.

  • Craig Anthony Huber - CEO, MD, and Research Analyst

  • And then I think you said this 3-year investment program to enhance the product, an extra $45 million of extra costs, I guess, by the time we get to the end of fiscal 2022, how much of that you think will fall into this year versus next year?

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • So to go through -- let me reiterate how that works.

  • So we have $15 million in each of the years that we'll be investing in for '20, '21 and '22.

  • So in terms of what falls into the first year, it's $15 million.

  • Craig Anthony Huber - CEO, MD, and Research Analyst

  • And very little of that was obviously in the first quarter?

  • Helen L. Shan - Executive VP & CFO

  • Right because much of the spend is people related, and it takes time to hire, especially for the capabilities that we're building, which has to do, as Phil talked about in terms of content, the expertise there and also on the technical side is related to digital capabilities.

  • Operator

  • Your last question comes from the line of George Tong by -- from Goldman Sachs.

  • Keen Fai Tong - Research Analyst

  • Organic ASV plus professional services growth has decelerated to its lowest level in years.

  • You talked a bit about client budgets coming under pressure and some sell-side headcount reductions.

  • Can you elaborate on changes you're seeing with buy-side headcount in both the U.S. and internationally?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • George, it's Phil.

  • So yes, we're -- I think we're seeing the buy -- we're seeing pressure on headcounts in the front office.

  • I think that's pretty well known.

  • I think portfolio managers, traders, research analysts, I think, over time, our thesis is that we'll see sustained pressure in terms of the number of people and that clients are going to want to go to more efficient solutions and more of a technology-type solution.

  • Keen Fai Tong - Research Analyst

  • Got it.

  • That's helpful.

  • You noted a decrease in your add-on business where you cross-sell to existing clients.

  • Can you discuss broader trends you're seeing with new product uptake versus your expectations and traction with the client wallet penetration?

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Yes.

  • So a lot of that really has to do with the large deal that we had in Q1 last year, that was booked as an add-on business, that was an existing client.

  • So I think that was the vast majority of it.

  • And as I mentioned, in my script and throughout the call, we're seeing a lot of very positive momentum for analytics product for feeds.

  • And on the wealth side, a lot of it is driven by user count.

  • Operator

  • There are no further questions at this time.

  • I turn the call back over to Phil.

  • Frederick Philip Snow - CEO & Director

  • Well, thanks, everyone.

  • I'd like to thank you all for joining us today.

  • It's clear that the changes in our industry are happening at speed, and we remain well placed to lead the charge.

  • Our efforts are already taking root as we position the company for the future, which is reflected in our new global headquarters here in Norwalk, Connecticut.

  • And I'm very proud of the efforts we've made to create space that fuels innovation and collaboration and truly mirrors our company and values.

  • Demand for open and flexible solutions is growing, and I want to conclude by reiterating our conviction and our outlook for the year, and happy holidays to all of you.

  • If you have additional questions, please call Rima Hyder, and we look forward to speaking to you next quarter.

  • Operator, that ends today's call.

  • Operator

  • This concludes today's conference call.

  • You may now disconnect.