Eagle Materials Inc (EXP) 2006 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Eagle Materials financial results for first quarter fiscal year 2006 conference call. [OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS].

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Steve Rowley, President and CEO.

  • Please go ahead, sir.

  • - President, CEO

  • Thank you.

  • And welcome to Eagle Materials conference call for the first quarter of fiscal year 2006.

  • Joining me today are Art Zunker, our Senior Vice President and CFO;

  • Jim Graass, our Executive Vice President and General Counsel; and Craig Kesler, our Vice President Investor Relations and Corporate Development.

  • There will be a slight presentation made in connection with this call.

  • To access it, please go to www.eaglematerials.com and click on the link to the Webcast.

  • While you're accessing this live, please note that the first slide covers our cautionary disclosure regarding forward-looking statements made during the call.

  • These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ from those discussed during the call.

  • For further information, please refer to this disclosure, which is also included at the end of our Press Release.

  • Continued strong U.S. construction fundamentals allowed Eagle Materials to set record-high revenues and net earnings for this year's first quarter.

  • The increase was driven by record sales volume in both wallboard and cement, combined with record-high cement prices and an 18% year-over-year increase in wallboard pricing.

  • Demand for our products is very strong and supply extremely tight requiring hard allocation policies in the market place.

  • Additionally, this year's first quarter comparative was positively impacted by acquisition of our partners 50% ownership in Illinois Cement Company, which closed during the fourth quarter of last year.

  • During the first quarter of fiscal 2006 we generated nearly $55 million of cash flow from our operations, a 55% increase from the same period a year ago.

  • The cash was utilized to fund $16 million in capital expenditures, which includes spending on the Illinois Cement expansion project and on a new dredge for Western Aggregates.

  • Exercising a purchase option on lease rail cars, a normal level of sustaining capital expenditures, we also repurchased nearly 415,000 shares of our stock this past quarter.

  • As of June 30th, our debt-to-cap ratio was 16%, compared to 15% as of March 31st.

  • Eagle remains focused on improving and enhancing our existing assets, new growth opportunities, and share repurchases.

  • Total construction spending is up over 7% through may, with both cement and wallboard industry shipments at record levels, up approximately 6% and 4% over last year, creating strong support for pricing in both of these industries.

  • Eagle and Eagle's customers believe that the demand will remain high and supply tight in our wallboard and cement markets for the remainder of the year.

  • Wallboard -- Eagle's Wallboard revenues increased in the first quarter because of price and volume increases.

  • This year's first quarter sales volumes were at a record high of nearly 700 million sq. ft., 9% greater than last year's first quarter.

  • Our plants are running at peak operating efficiencies with minimal waste and delay.

  • With the U.S. wallboard industry currently operating very close to weighted capacity, pricing continues to improve resulting in Eagle's quarterly comparative operating earnings increasing by 64%.

  • Because of the current extremely tight supply of gypsum wallboard, pricing has risen significantly.

  • Our latest June 27th price increase is holding firm and Eagle's current mill net estimate is $130 per MSF.

  • And for reference now, a $10 margin improvement in wallboard equates to approximately $1 increase in Eagle's annual EPS.

  • Cement -- First quarter cement consumption was very strong in all of our markets and even with a 78% increase in purchase products our customers remain on hard allocations.

  • Eagle's revenue increase was associated with both price and volume improvements, 15% and 18% respectively.

  • Eagle Cement earnings had improved because price increases have outpaced the impact of higher cost purchase cement and higher maintenance costs.

  • Our $78.55 per ton mill net is a record-high quarterly price for Eagle Materials.

  • Very strong demand continues to support the current amount summer cement price increases.

  • The Paper Industry, however, is struggling and where public sales prices outside of gypsum liner are falling.

  • However, record wallboard industry shipments has increased gypsum paperboard demand, allowing our lot and paper mill to almost exclusively produce gypsum paperboard.

  • Our concrete volumes, prices, and earnings are improving primarily because of improved market conditions in Austin, Texas.

  • Record-high aggregate sales volume and price also contributed to our increased operating earnings in this segment.

  • Art?

  • - SVP, CFO

  • Thank you, Steve.

  • We have issued guidance for the second quarter of fiscal 2006 and for fiscal year 2006.

  • In summary, for the second quarter of fiscal 2006, we anticipate our diluted earnings per share to range between $2 and $2.30 per share driven primarily by the full impact of already implemented wallboard and cement price increases.

  • For fiscal 2006, we estimate that our diluted EPS to range between $7.30 and $7.60 per share, reflecting continued strong demand for wallboard and cement.

  • - President, CEO

  • Thank you, Art.

  • George, we're now ready for the question-and-answer session.

  • Operator

  • Sure.

  • Ladies and gentlemen, [OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS].

  • Our first question comes from the line of John Lynch from Lynch Research.

  • Please proceed with your question.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi.

  • I have a couple of things that relate to the same thing.

  • You're well on the way in expanding your operations in Illinois and you're obviously still examining what your intentions are in the bottom market.

  • I'm curious as to your cash flow needs.

  • Would you start the plant in the West, if you were permitted and ready while the plant in the Midwest is still under construction?

  • Some idea of how you plan to handle your needs for more capacity.

  • - President, CEO

  • The permitting process is really just started out West.

  • And, clearly, Illinois Cement will be completed long before we would have the permit in hand and we'd be able to start construction out West.

  • So we still believe we are a couple of years from finalizing everything regarding the permit.

  • Maybe if we're lucky, a little bit earlier.

  • But Illinois Cement will clearly be finished before we would start that project.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And how about on the gypsum side, do you sense any expansion needs that would take capital there?

  • - President, CEO

  • Well, currently we've announced a new wallboard plant for South Carolina and we will start spending on that.

  • In the fourth quarter of this fiscal year time frame, maybe the end of the fourth quarter of this fiscal year.

  • And that will be approximately a 14 to 16-month time frame that we'd be spending the $125 million that we estimate on the new wallboard plant in South Carolina.

  • - Analyst

  • And finally, competitive capacity.

  • What's coming on there or what has come on that could impact the market?

  • - President, CEO

  • Recently, USG just announced a new plant for kind of the North Central or Eastern Pennsylvania.

  • That's a 1 billion per annum square foot plant.

  • That was just announced a couple of days ago.

  • With that exception I don't think in the last quarter there have been any new announcements in wallboard or cement.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks very much.

  • By the way, it was a delightful report to read.

  • Appreciate it.

  • - President, CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from the line of Jack Kasprzak from BB&T Capital Markets.

  • Please proceed with your question, sir.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks.

  • Good afternoon, Steve.

  • My first question is the cement operating margin in the quarter was a little over 18%.

  • And that's much lower than what you've been running in the mid 20s.

  • I was wondering if you could just talk about why?

  • - President, CEO

  • Here, we did stub our toe a little bit this quarter.

  • And at one of our plants, Mountain Cement, we had problems with a raw mill gearbox.

  • And even though we did have a spare, by the time we put the new gearbox in -- and we just had our major outage -- so a combination of having the major outage and then having a failure on that gearbox, and then taking a little while to get the spare up and running, we lost an additional two weeks of production at Mountain Cement.

  • So we did stub our toe a little bit.

  • And that's the reason for the lower margins in cement.

  • - Analyst

  • And is there a way to quantify the sort of extraordinary or unusual expense related to that?

  • Not -- forgetting the loss production, but just any expense?

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes.

  • The expense range -- the gearbox itself is about $0.5 million.

  • And by the time you put the labor in, maybe $0.75 million for just the maintenance expense of changing out that gearbox.

  • And the rest is really just a shift of low margin purchase products versus manufactured product.

  • - Analyst

  • The tax rate in the quarter was down around 30.5%.

  • What would you say would be a good number for modeling purposes going forward?

  • - SVP, CFO

  • Jack, so three-quarters going out [indiscernible] leaves approximately 34%, and then you should have with something around 33% for the year.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And the joint venture income was 5 -- just over 5.5 million in the quarter, which was higher than the same quarter last year.

  • But I'm trying -- the buyout of the Illinois Cement venture was only reflected in this quarter; is that correct?

  • - President, CEO

  • That's correct.

  • - Analyst

  • So the -- that joint venture, what you have left in that line did better last year with less production, if you will.

  • Is that -- I mean obviously, the whole cement industry is enjoying higher prices.

  • I assume that's what's happening there.

  • Should we expect that that's where performance, just on a comparative basis, will continue?

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes.

  • Right now we believe that the Texas market is really finally absorbed all that capacity that was added around 2000.

  • And it is finally really returning to solid profitability in the whole state.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • It's truly a stellar performance there.

  • And on cement pricing, I believe Holcim has announced a $10 term price increase for January as has Lafarge.

  • Have you guys seen that?

  • Do you think it will affect, positively affect your markets from what you know today?

  • - President, CEO

  • I believe so.

  • I think Ashgrove also has another $10 print per ton increase announced for January.

  • So -- and those are definitely in our markets and we definitely believe that it will have an impact.

  • - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Okay.

  • Thanks, guys.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, [OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS].

  • Our next question comes from the line of Barbara Allen from Avondale Partners.

  • Please proceed with your question.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • And my congratulations on another good quarter as well.

  • I wondered, Art, if you could give us the share count by class-type, since you've been repurchasing shares my guess is there is beginning to be a difference?

  • - SVP, CFO

  • Yes, that's correct.

  • Hold on a second, Barbara and let me dig that out.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • - SVP, CFO

  • As of June 30th, the "A" shares were approximately 9,560,000 and the "B" shares were 8,279,000 for a total of actual shares outstanding of 17,839,000.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • I was going to ask you something else, which now, of course, is -- oh, the assumptions underlying your full-year guidance, could you give us at least the pricing assumptions?

  • And I'm assuming that the volume trends will -- you are assuming continued full capacity utilization?

  • - President, CEO

  • And we -- currently the assumptions are that cement pricing is status quo.

  • That doesn't include any of the future price increases.

  • And the wallboard pricing is current pricing with some reduction in volume and pricing for normal seasonality during the winter.

  • - Analyst

  • So the current wallboard price is 130?

  • - President, CEO

  • That's correct.

  • - Analyst

  • And the current cement price is 70 --?

  • - President, CEO

  • 79.50 or almost 80.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And I just want to be sure, because I have listened to a bunch of conference calls.

  • Have we got some more cement price increases that have already been posted prior to next January?

  • I can't believe they'd go a whole six months without --.

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes, there are some price increases.

  • There were some price increases that came in July, I believe, in Texas.

  • And then we had some more in August and September.

  • About -- between 3 and $5 in the rest of our markets.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • So we're waiting to see how those are going to hold up?

  • - President, CEO

  • That's correct.

  • - Analyst

  • Those aren't included?

  • - SVP, CFO

  • Those are not included.

  • - Analyst

  • And then the wallboard that's just been a recent price increase, so we're going see how that holds?

  • But it certainly looks like there's every indication that it will hold pretty well?

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • What's been the negative impact of rising energy costs?

  • - President, CEO

  • In wallboard, it's about, I think, the impact to us on a cost basis is about $2.50 per MSF.

  • And I think -- we had another slight increase in paper, so, of about another $0.75.

  • So those were the increases in the wallboard side.

  • And the cement side there was not a lot of impact.

  • And the other major issue that we had in wallboard had to do with freight prices.

  • Our rail freight rates went up 31%.

  • Our truck rates went up 14%.

  • However, we did flip the volume around a little bit, we had a 10% increase in the volume shipped by truck and a 9 to 10% decrease in the volume shipped by rail.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • So you're trying to switch between the two to get the better deal?

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes.

  • And with the market as strong as it is, trying to bring the -- our sales in closer to the plants to minimize the distance.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes.

  • Okay.

  • And you said that one of the uses of your cash this quarter was that you bought some rail cars that had been on lease; is that correct?

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes.

  • We entered into I think it was a 10-year lease purchase agreement in '94 over '95 and just exercised the purchase option.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Was this a couple of million dollars or --?

  • - President, CEO

  • About 3, 3.5, I believe.

  • - SVP, CFO

  • Yes, 3.5 million, Barbara.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Those are your special rail cars that you use for your wallboard.

  • - President, CEO

  • For cement.

  • These were for cement.

  • - Analyst

  • Those were for cement.

  • Okay.

  • All right.

  • Thanks very much.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from the line of Justin Livengood from Merrill Lynch.

  • Please proceed with your question.

  • - Analyst

  • Hi, guys, great quarter.

  • Two questions for you.

  • First just to follow-up on an earlier question regarding that issue in the cement business that nicked the margin this quarter.

  • Was that resolved as of July 1st?

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes, that was a one-time occurrence.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • So everything was contained in the first fiscal quarter?

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes, it was.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Second question, how should we think about your business in light of the recent passage of the Federal Highway Bill?

  • Is there any notable impact of that?

  • - President, CEO

  • Just demand will continue to get strong.

  • Allocation is tougher as that comes online.

  • But what we've seen is currently right now the public infrastructure works is so strong in the states.

  • The states are having a hard time finding the engineers that are needed to actually get those projects up and running, which would require the cement demand.

  • And, in fact, I think some states, California is actually starting to contract out a lot of the engineering work for the -- that Caltrans has currently on the books.

  • - Analyst

  • So that Federal spending is likely not going to play out anytime soon?

  • It's going to take years to kind of work its way through the system and through the individual states?

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes, so it's really good news long-term for us -- continued increase cement demand.

  • - Analyst

  • Gotcha.

  • Okay, great.

  • Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from the line of Tony Campbell from Knott Partners.

  • Please proceed with your question.

  • - Analyst

  • Good afternoon, gentlemen.

  • I apologize, I have been on a couple of calls and I got on your call a little late.

  • I wanted to congratulate you on buying this 415,000 shares of stock back.

  • I'm wondering if you've answered this I'll listen to the replay, but your CapEx for this year, and I guess where I'm sort of going with this is your ability and desire to keep repurchasing common shares?

  • - President, CEO

  • We're -- our CapEx for this year is between 75 and $80 million total, we believe.

  • And in addition to the shares that we purchased in the first quarter, up to the blackout period we purchased an additional 72,000 shares at about an average price of $94.

  • So we've continued to repurchase it.

  • Again, it takes me a little while when the stock price jumps to get over the sticker price shock.

  • - Analyst

  • [Laughter].

  • - President, CEO

  • But anyway, we have continued to repurchase right up to the blackout period.

  • - Analyst

  • And can you remind me when you can basically make the "As" and "Bs" together so we can eliminate the discount?

  • - President, CEO

  • The -- generally, about two years is kind of an unwritten agreement or un -- there was nothing in the works.

  • But generally it takes at least two years of history before you would contemplate doing that.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Well listen, good luck.

  • You guys are doing a great job.

  • - President, CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is a follow-up question from John Lynch with Lynch Research.

  • - Analyst

  • I have a very simple question, but it deals with how you treat freight in your reporting.

  • Is that 130 after freight charges?

  • And the same with the 78.55?

  • And to the extent that it is, what would those freight charges be so we could get to an actual market price?

  • - SVP, CFO

  • Yes, that's correct, John.

  • Those are net of freight.

  • And I'm trying to recall here -- I don't have it in front of me.

  • But I think on the wallboard price it's about --.

  • - President, CEO

  • $22, $23.

  • - SVP, CFO

  • It was actually $28 --.

  • - President, CEO

  • $28.

  • - SVP, CFO

  • $28 for wallboard.

  • And I think it was [indiscernible] it's about -- 5 or $6, I believe.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Jack Kasprzak from BB&T Capital Markets.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks.

  • Could you just refresh my memory about when the Illinois Cement expansion will be finished?

  • - President, CEO

  • It will be finished in December of '06.

  • So we're a little over a year out.

  • - Analyst

  • And when will you guys start the South Carolina wallboard plant?

  • - President, CEO

  • We believe we'll start construction during the first quarter of '06, our fourth quarter.

  • - Analyst

  • Calendar Q1 '06?

  • - President, CEO

  • Q1 '06, yes.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Mr. Rowley, there are no further questions.

  • - President, CEO

  • Thank you.

  • And we look forward to talking to you next quarter.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the conference call for today.

  • We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.