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  • Operator

  • Good morning. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Exelon Corporation third-quarter 2006 earnings release conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks there will be a question-and-answer period. Please limit yourself to one question. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS). Thank you. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Joyce Carson, Vice President of Investor Relations, and Shareholder Services. Ma'am, you may begin your conference.

  • Joyce Carson - VP of IR

  • Good morning, and welcome to the Exelon third-quarter earnings review and update conference call. Thank you for joining us today. We issued our earnings release this morning. If you haven't received it, the release is available on the Exelon website at www.ExelonCorp.com, or you can call Mary Snyder at 312-394-5222, and she will fax or e-mail the release to you. This call is being recorded and will be available through November 10 by dialing 877-519-4471. The international call-in number is 973-341-3080. The confirmation code is 794-7312. In addition, the call will be archived on the Exelon website.

  • Before we begin today's discussions, let me remind you that the earnings release and other matters we may discuss on today's call may contain forward-looking statements and estimates that are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Please refer to our SEC filings for discussions of factors that may cause results to differ from management's projections, forecasts and expectations.

  • In our press release and during this call, we will discuss adjusted non-GAAP operating earnings that exclude the impact of mark-to-market adjustments from non-trading activity; investments in synthetic fuel-producing facilities; certain costs associated with the terminated merger with PSEG; significant impairments of intangible assets, including goodwill; significant changes in decommissioning obligation estimates; severance and severance-related charges; any impact of the ICC’s July 26 order rehearing process in the fourth quarter of 2006; losses on extinguishments of long-term debt to be recovered by ComEd as approved in the July 26 ICC rate order; and other unusual items, including any future changes to GAAP. We believe these adjusted operating earnings are representative of the underlying operational results of the company. In today's earnings release, we provide a reconciliation between GAAP earnings and adjusted non-GAAP operating earnings.

  • With me today are John Rowe, Chairman, President and CEO of Exelon; John Young, Executive Vice President, Finance and Markets, and CFO of Exelon; Frank Clark, Chairman and CEO of ComEd; and other members of our senior management team, who will be available to answer your questions. Today's call will focus on third-quarter 2006 results, full-year expectations by operating company and updates on key issues facing the company, including the Illinois proposal for a rate freeze extension.

  • We have scheduled an hour for this call. We will spend about 30 minutes on prepared remarks and use the remaining time for question-and-answers. In order to effectively manage this call, we would appreciate it if you would limit yourself to one question. I will now turn the call over to John Young, who will begin with a discussion of Exelon's financial results.

  • John Young - EVP of Finance and Markets, CFO

  • Thank you, Joyce. Good morning. Today I will discuss Exelon's third-quarter financial results and our full-year earning expectations by operating company. Then I will turn the call over to John Rowe, who will provide an operational update and along with Frank Clark, discuss recent Illinois regulatory and political activity.

  • Exelon Corporation announced third-quarter adjusted non-GAAP operating earnings of $690 million or $1.02 per diluted share, an increase of 7% from the third quarter of 2005 operating earnings of $645 million or $0.95 per diluted share.

  • On a GAAP basis, Exelon reported a consolidated loss of $44 million or $0.07 per share for the third quarter of 2006. The major difference between third-quarter adjusted non-GAAP operating earnings of $1.02 per diluted share and the GAAP loss of $0.07 per share is a charge of $1.15 per diluted share related to the impairment of ComEd's goodwill, which I will discuss further in a moment.

  • For a full year reconciliation of our third-quarter reported GAAP loss and adjusted non-GAAP operating earnings, please refer to the tables that accompany the earnings release.

  • The major drivers of Exelon's year-over-year operating earnings growth in the third quarter were higher wholesale margins at Generation, higher electric revenues at PECO and favorable income taxes at PECO and Generation. Generation realized increased wholesale margins due to a contractual price increase in the PECO PPA price, higher realized prices on market sales and increased nuclear and hydro generation. The increase in electric revenue at PECO was associated with PECO's previously authorized rate increase and the favorable income taxes that were primarily due to Pennsylvania legislation allowing the realization of a previously written-off tax asset at Generation, along with an investment tax credit refund at PECO.

  • These gains were partially offset by higher operating costs of about $0.06. These were due to numerous storms in the PECO service territory, including the worst summer storm in PECO history in mid-July with 450,000 customers losing power. This storm cost about $0.04 for the quarter.

  • In addition, higher nuclear refueling outage costs due to greater number of refueling outage days when compared to last year and inflationary pressures across the board.

  • The quarter also included offsets from higher depreciation and amortization expense, including the scheduled increase in CTC amortization at PECO and lower sales volumes at our delivery companies due to less favorable weather in 2006, which represented $0.05 at ComEd and $0.01 at PECO.

  • To summarize, Exelon realized continued year-over-year growth in operating earnings in the third quarter. Consistent with previous quarters this year, higher margins from the Generation business and higher electric revenues at PECO were partially offset by increased operating costs, higher depreciation and amortization and less favorable weather. For your reference, the full list of year-over-year earnings drivers for the quarter can be found on Page 9 of the tables accompanying the earnings release.

  • With three quarters of solid financial performance and robust operational results behind us, we're reaffirming our 2006 operating earnings guidance of $3.15 to $3.30 per share, which represents the top half of the range of our original 2006 guidance. Our operating earnings guidance is based on the assumption of normal weather for the remainder of the year. The key drivers of Exelon's expected full-year operating earnings growth are improving Generation margins, continued strong operational performance, particularly in nuclear, partially offset by less favorable weather and higher operating and maintenance costs.

  • Let me spend a few minutes on the cost side of the business. Several items, some of which are more one-time in nature and some ongoing, have contributed to the 2006 increase in operating and maintenance costs. The items that are unique to 2006 relative to 2005 include a particularly severe set of storms at PECO this past summer that I have already referenced; increased bad debt expense at PECO driven by higher customer billings and increased universal service program enrollments; higher nuclear refueling outage costs due to one additional outage in 2006 when compared to 2005; and the recognition of stock-based compensation expense due to the adoption of a new accounting standard.

  • Beyond these more unique items, we have experienced and are expecting to continue to experience overall cost pressures in our capital and O&M budgets. For example, we have seen dramatic increases in the price of raw materials in recent years, including copper, aluminum, core steel and petroleum. As a result, some of our commodities such as wire and cable, distribution transformers and poles have recently experienced double-digit price increases.

  • Pension and other retirement benefits costs have also risen faster than the rate of inflation. Also with the transition to market prices for electricity in Illinois, ComEd has incurred additional costs due to continued legal challenges as well as the cost of funding its customer outreach program. We expect to see continuing rising cost pressure over the next several years. Managing these cost pressures is a major focus of our management team.

  • For 2006, we estimate GAAP earnings will fall in the range of $2.15 to $2.30 per share, assuming normal weather and excluding any impact of the July 26th ICC rate order rehearing process, which will occur in the fourth quarter of 2006. This range is lower than the previous estimated $3.03 to $3.30 per share, primarily due to the impairment of ComEd's goodwill in the third quarter.

  • As I mentioned in the second-quarter earnings call, under GAAP, goodwill is tested for impairment at least annually or more frequently if events or circumstances indicate that it is, "more likely than not," that goodwill might be impaired. Due to the significant and negative impact of the Illinois Commerce Commission's July 26th, 2006 rate order to the cash flows and value of ComEd, we were required to complete an impairment test during the third quarter of this year. This test resulted in an impairment charge at both ComEd and Exelon of $776 million or $1.15 per diluted share.

  • Similarly, rate freeze legislation, if enacted, would cause a significant additional degradation of ComEd's cash flows and would likely lead to a further impairment of goodwill at both ComEd and Exelon.

  • Let's turn now to the individual operating companies' third-quarter performance. ComEd's third-quarter operating performance were relatively flat when compared to the third quarter of 2005. During the third quarter, ComEd benefited from a credit to reflect the recovery of previously incurred environmental costs associated with manufactured gas plants and lower purchase power expense associated with ComEd's purchase power agreement with Generation. These increases were partially offset by less favorable weather relative to the prior year.

  • At PECO, operating earnings for the third quarter decreased for the same period in 2005, primarily due to higher CTC amortization, higher storm costs and unfavorable weather relative to the prior year, which were partially offset by increased revenue from the previously authorized rate increase and ITC refund. The rate increase and CTC amortization were fully anticipated and included in our guidance.

  • Generation's year-over-year third-quarter operating earnings drivers are consistent with what we have experienced all year. Operating earnings increased by 23% due to the contractual price increase in the PECO PPA, higher realized prices on market sales from more favorably priced hedges and increased nuclear and hydro generation.

  • Average realized wholesale margins on all sales at power team during the third quarter of 2006 were up 19% over the same period for 2005. This increase in earnings was partially offset by the contractual decrease in prices associated with Generation's power sales agreement with ComEd and higher operating and maintenance costs, including those related to nuclear refueling outages and higher costs due to inflation.

  • In our earnings release, we have provided much more detail regarding our third-quarter results and will be happy to respond to your questions later in the call.

  • In a continuing effort to provide greater transparency in each of our operating companies, in the press release, we have provided full-year operating earnings guidance ranges for ComEd, PECO and Generation on a stand-alone basis.

  • At ComEd, in 2005, ComEd contributed $0.78 of operating earnings per diluted share for Exelon, and we expect the 2006 full-year contribution to fall between $0.75 and $0.80 per share. We expect ComEd's operating earnings in 2007 to decrease significantly from 2006 levels due to several factors, including -- the end of the transition period in Illinois and related transition revenues; the unfavorable ICC distribution rate case order in July of 2006; regulatory lag due to the 2004 test year that was used in that rate case; increased operating costs to maintain and improve system reliability; and increased benefit and post-retirement expenses. Obviously, ComEd will be further negatively impacted if rate freeze legislation is enacted.

  • At PECO in 2005, PECO contributed $0.78 of operating earnings per diluted Exelon share, and we expect in 2006 the full-year contribution to decrease to between $0.60 and $0.65. In 2007 and through the balance of the Pennsylvania transition period, we expect continued modest year-over-year decreases in PECO's operating earnings, driven by the increased amortization of CTC and higher operating expenses, including pension and benefits.

  • At Exelon Generation, Generation contributed $1.66 of operating earnings per diluted Exelon share in 2005. We expect in 2006 the full-year contribution to increase to between $1.85 and $1.95 per share. In 2007, we expect Generation operating earnings to increase considerably. The major driver of this projected growth is increased Generation margins due to the expiration of the below-market contract with ComEd, favorable market conditions and a contractual price increase in the PECO PPA. We expect these gains will be partially offset by the roll-off of income from the TXU tolling arrangement, higher fuel costs and higher operating expenses, including costs related to filing a combined construction and operating license in ERCOT.

  • We will provide more details on our earnings drivers and expected earnings growth rates by operating company over the next five years, along with our high-level planning assumptions, at the EEI conference in Las Vegas the week after next. At our annual investor conference in December, we will provide formal 2007 guidance by operating company, along with more information on our strategic direction, earnings sensitivities, hedging strategy, financing plan and value return policy.

  • Before I turn the call over to John, let me discuss some recent news regarding the operating agreement at Salem and Hope Creek. The nuclear operating services contract with PSEG will continue into 2007, but we received notice from PSEG today confirming that the agreement will terminate on January 17th. PSEG's notice indicates PSEG wants a two-year termination transition period and reserves the right under the agreement to ask for another year. During this termination transition period, Exelon's assistance to PSEG will wind down.

  • Our interest in this agreement is solely to find a sustainable solution to the operations at artificial island. We have had discussions with the PSEG along these lines and are continuing those discussions, but to-date, those discussions have not borne fruit.

  • With that, I will turn the call over to John Rowe, who will provide an operational update and discuss our views on recent Illinois events. I look forward to seeing you all at EEI.

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • Good morning, everyone, and thank you, John. As all of you know, because you see it for yourselves and we have told you again and again, Generation is becoming an ever-larger part of Exelon's earnings and Generation in turn is evermore affected by the commodity prices that exist around us. It is for that reason that John has gone into ever-increasing detail on how the different components of our business are working so you can make your own best estimate for yourself.

  • We are, of course, pleased with our operating results for this quarter, and the bad news that we had to bring you wasn't news today at all. You have all heard in excruciating detail when they happened about the ComEd delivery rate case and also the continued threats of rate freeze legislation in Illinois.

  • On the operating basis, our nuclear fleet achieved a capacity factor of 95.8% for the third quarter of 2006 with a summer capacity factor of 98.1%, which is a Company best -- Congratulations, Chris Crane -- and almost a full percentage point better than its previous summer record of 97.3%.

  • Our fossil and hydro fleet also had a strong quarter with commercial and equivalent availability factors of 92.8% and 88.9%, respectively. The power team continued to add value by optimizing our Generation supply portfolio, translating operational performance into commercial value with continued improvement in Generation margins.

  • I think Ian McLean and his group continue to do a superb job at prudently managing the opportunities that lie before them and dealing with risks of things like gas prices.

  • On the delivery side we experienced record-breaking heat and storms this summer and in the early fall. Keeping the lights on, always our first imperative, required an extraordinary effort under such challenging circumstances. Both ComEd and PECO responded well, but I have to give special acknowledgment here to the PECO management. The Philadelphia area has had a truly remarkable series of storms, and Denis O'Brien and his team have done a wonderful job in the circumstances.

  • Our commitment remains to continued operating excellence and financial discipline. We know, of course, that these are never enough. A key component of our success to date has been our ability to handle the regulatory and political challenges that we face, and in that regard I have asked Frank Clark to join us so you get a first-hand update from him on the Illinois situation. Frank.

  • Frank Clark - Chairman, CEO, ComEd

  • As John has indicated, ComEd continues to face serious challenges, as we move closer to the completion of the electric industry restructuring transition period in Illinois. These include trying to reverse, at least in part, the devastating ICC order in July regarding our delivery costs and revenues as well as new and strong efforts to impose an extension of the nearly decade-long rate freeze in Illinois.

  • Let me first address our efforts to persuade the ICC to allow us to recover a larger portion of our delivery costs than the commission's July 26 order would have permitted. As you know, we have requested a revenue increase of $317 million, reflecting our rising costs and significant capital investment in our delivery system, while our rates have been frozen. The commission's decision allows for an $8 million increase, virtually zero. We are in the midst of a rehearing process, and it is possible we will have an order in December of this year.

  • We're encouraged by some of our interactions with interested parties and the ICC staff, but we cannot predict the nature of the eventual outcome. If the result is not satisfactory, we will appeal. Looking ahead, if ComEd is to continue to maintain and improve the reliability of the system for customers to meet the growing customer requirements and improve customer service, regular rate cases will be required. ComEd plans to file its next distribution rate case in the second quarter of 2007.

  • Let me also note that just recently, on Friday, October 20, the ICC Administrative Law Judge in the proceeding on our rate phase-in proposal, issued a proposed order recommending ICC approval of our plan. This moves us closer to being able to offer our residential customers the option of paying the rate increase over time rather than having it reflected in their bill all at once. This plan does provide for the creation of deferral balances, and their recovery with a carrying charge rate of 6.5%. Providing a phase-in option to our residential customers was a major part of our CARE program. Now, that's the program that we launched in the summer and it is designed to help our customers manage their energy bills. Our phase-in plan is supported by the ICC staff but opposed by the Attorney General and CUB. The ICC still needs to rule on this plan, and we have asked for approval by the end of November.

  • Prior to this encouraging development, we accomplished a major milestone in early September with the successful completion of the first of the ICC-approved reverse auctions designed to secure power supply at the lowest available market cost to meet our customers' needs beginning in January of next year, when our current power supply contracts expire. In this first auction, ComEd's entire 2007 load and portions of its 2008 and 2009 loads were up for bid – with suppliers limited to serving no more than 35% of that load. The process was robust – over 20 suppliers participated, and there were 16 winning suppliers. We have signed contracts with the winning suppliers.

  • As a result of this auction process, on average, rates for our residential customers will increase 22% in January. While this is a significant increase, it actually means that our January 2007 rates following a nearly decade-long rate freeze will be lower than they were in 1995. To put this in context, in 2007, a competitive auction delivered prices that were less than the cost-based price approved by regulators in 1995. Even with this positive auction result and the ALJ's support of our rate increase phase-in proposal, we have experienced an escalation of political opposition to any rate increase. This is an election year, and any increase in electric rates is the target for some political agendas.

  • As a result, there have been calls by leading policymakers for an extension of the rate freeze via new legislation. On October 9th, a special hearing of the House Oversight Committee was held in Springfield, resulting in a split committee vote in favor of rate freeze legislation, and the speaker of the House has asked the governor to call a special legislative session to consider this legislation. Even if a special session does not take place, it is possible that the legislation will be considered in the veto section, which takes place in mid and late November following the election or in the spring 2007 session. All of our attention and effort is focused on defeating such an outcome.

  • So we're close to achieving our goal of completing the transition to new rates based on ComEd's new cost of purchasing supply, and we are hopeful that we can work with the ICC and interested parties to address our delivery service revenue needs and offer a rate-increase phase-in program for our residential customers. Nonetheless, we are faced -- or we still face a very difficult political challenge. If rate freeze legislation were in fact to become Illinois law, ComEd would quickly be paying more for electric supply and the operation of the transmission and delivery systems than the revenues we would be allowed to collect. While ComEd will take all of the available legal action to overturn this result, if this proposed legislation becomes effective, it would drive ComEd into insolvency and indeed bankruptcy.

  • As John has said repeatedly, there could be no bail-out of ComEd at the expense of Exelon shareholders, nor would we expect it. We're doing all we can think of to avoid this outcome, and while we are always ready to meet with our adversaries to negotiate a settlement on reasonable terms, we're also prepared to exhaust all of our options to avoid the results of such potentially devastating state policies. John?

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • Thank you, Frank. Frank Clark, Anne Pramaggiore, John Hooker and their team have done an absolutely wonderful job with the Legislature, with their public relations program and so forth in deferring and detouring the effort to have rate freeze legislation. As you know, they have been successful to-date, and they will stay in there pitching.

  • As Frank suggested, the ComEd legal team already has all the necessary papers prepared if this challenge should escalate even further, which we hope it will not.

  • Just to comment on this again from the Exelon perspective, a rate freeze would not benefit customers. We don't think it will even benefit political figures in the long run. We believe that a rate freeze, if actually allowed into effect by the courts, could only lead to the bankruptcy of both ComEd and some of the Ameren companies.

  • Exelon can withstand a ComEd bankruptcy, and if rate freeze legislation were passed and sustained by the courts, in that situation perhaps it even must. We believe it will not come to that path. We certainly hope it will not come to that path, and we are certainly doing everything we can to prevent such a situation from existing. But we prepare, and at Exelon, we tell you the possibilities as we see them.

  • ComEd has always been a separate legal entity from the rest of Exelon. It accounts for less than 10% of our market value, by our internal estimates. We have completed our ring fencing of ComEd to help ensure that it remains a separate legal entity. ComEd has an active board with eight directors, seven of them outside directors and three of them selected because they are not even on the Exelon parent board. It has its own credit lines. It is prepared to stand on its own if it must.

  • Ironically, while they seem very different, the challenges we faced in New Jersey and continue to face in Illinois reflect the same issue. They reflect the value we have created in Exelon Generation. In both cases our opponents have been mesmerized by the desire to get the value of this unregulated company into the regulated delivery companies. We simply are not going to allow that to happen as long as we have the legal right to prevent it.

  • Some of our political opponents think that we are just lucky. The other day, I even heard another utility CEO falsely characterizing our nuclear plants as something the customers have paid for. That simply isn't a reflection of the reality.

  • As you all know, both ComEd and PECO in the fully regulated days suffered substantial losses on their nuclear plants. As you all know, both Illinois and Pennsylvania made decisions to bring competition in, and both states allowed us to put our Generation into separate competitive businesses. By doing that, we put both the risks and the opportunities in one place, and we will keep fighting to defend that position. So far, we have been successful.

  • You know, it wasn't just luck that gave our nuclear fleet capacity factors that has been consistently over 90%. It was immense talent from Chris Crane, Jack Skolds, before them Oliver Kingsley and Chris's whole team and immense hard work. It wasn't just luck that our nuclear plants are in a separate company or that we sold our fossil plants in Illinois. It was hard-headed thinking about the way the Illinois restructuring act worked and about the way the marketplace had to work and a willingness to take risks to put the opportunities of the business where the risks are.

  • It was not just luck that steered us into PJM, the most efficient wholesale market in the nation. That was hard-headed thinking by Betsy Moler. It wasn't just luck that has kept us investing in our T&D business and improving the service for 5 million customers. And it has not been luck that we built one of the best balance sheets in the business. The success for which you have paid in our leading market capitalization is a product of an absolutely relentless focus on the basics. We keep the lights on. We run our nuclear fleet exceptionally well. And we tell people, our employees, our customers and certainly you, our investors, about both our problems and our opportunities in the straightest way we know how.

  • As we go forward, we will continue to do everything we know how to do to protect and enhance your market value. We consider that a fundamental, along with keeping the lights on and safe nuclear operations. We not only plan to create value and work to create value, we make the hard decisions and take the stuff that goes with creating value. When we need to fight, we fight. When we need to change a plan, as we did when we pulled out of the PSEG merger, we do that. We are driven by value, and we'll stay that way.

  • We will, of course, look for ways to ease the political tension in our states. While I think our political case is strong and our legal case as close to impeccable as a legal case can be, we know that we would benefit from a stable long-term agreement in Illinois. We will continue to seek one by compromises that are consistent with the basic value structure we have created. We will continue to look for ways to defend and enhance the nation's competitive markets. We shall continue to look for ways to deal with challenges like the carbon and climate change issues and show leadership on that. We will continue to be hard-headed as we approach electricity markets, and we will continue to do as John did in his enhanced explanation of how our individual companies work, show you with the highest level of transparency we can what we are and what we can deliver. That has been a value-added recipe for the nearly nine years I've been here. I'm confident it's going to stay a value-added recipe.

  • We will be happy to take your questions.

  • Operator

  • (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS). Paul Fremont of Jefferies.

  • Paul Fremont - Analyst

  • Thank you very much. With respect to the recent merger breakup, have you reconsidered a structural separation of the regulated businesses from the nonregulated businesses to potentially put you in a better situation in the future? Also, can you give us a sense on cash redeployment – what your priorities are right now?

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • Paul, thanks for the question. They are both good questions. Let me touch upon the second part of it first. We're going to give you a full picture of our cash redeployment plans at our December 12 investor meeting here in Chicago. We intend to be looking at both the dividend issue, which you're expecting us to look at, and we will also be looking at share repurchases and try to give you a package that we think returns value in the most efficient way. After I finish responding to your question, I will let John add more, if he wishes to, in that respect.

  • On the first question, of course we think about it. We think about it all the time. We are keenly aware that over the past eight years there has been advantage to shareholders in our current combined structure. We ask ourselves again and again, will that advantage remain. We also ask ourselves, will the states of Illinois and Pennsylvania encourage us to separate or encourage us to stay together, because the state statutes governing restructurings would give the state something to say about that.

  • We're prepared to address on an ongoing basis whatever option seems to give us the clearest picture of how to add value for shareholders. I don't believe we know the answer to that yet. My officers all have individual opinions about it, but we believe we have to work through some of these current challenges first, and we're proceeding to do that.

  • I would say that, while we remain open on an M&A front to all kinds of possibilities, I think one of the issues you have to ask after our experience in New Jersey is whether it is easier to expand on the pure generation side of the business. That's the kind of question we ask.

  • The best thing I can say about the first part of your question is it's a very intelligent question, and we have not answered it yet. We have certainly asked it, and it will be the usual Exelon value-comes-first decision when we decide it, either way. John, do you want to say anything more about his value return?

  • John Young - EVP of Finance and Markets, CFO

  • I pretty much just agree with what you said. Just know that what we're going to probably do mechanically is discuss from a framework perspective at EEI how we plan on addressing the value return and then get specifics with numbers on December 12, here in Chicago. All of that is trying to recognize the changing composition of the source of cash and the source of earnings from a predominantly regulated company to a predominantly unregulated company over time.

  • Operator

  • John Kiani of Deutsche Bank.

  • John Kiani - Analyst

  • Just to expand a little bit more on the comment you just made, can you give us a little bit more color on your view on M&A post the termination of the Public Service Enterprise Group deal? Could any potential M&A focus shift to the more pure, nonregulated portion of the sector like the IPPs, for example, in order to avoid the regulatory risk that you discussed?

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • I think the answer to that is it's a distinct possibility. I thought I had stated that already. It would take a very special opportunity to get us to take on another integrated in the near future. Of course, risks don't just exist in one sector. The probability of consummation risk is now very much higher in the integrated sectors of the business, as witnessed not only by our PSEG transaction but by the FPL, Constellation transaction.

  • On the other hand, some of the issues that haunted us in New Jersey like DoJ's unwillingness to accept FERC's Appendix A as an adequate market power determination would haunt some IPP acquisitions as well. As you know, when independent generation is in, it's oh, so in; and when it's out, it's oh so out. The question that John Young and Mac McFarland and their team will have to look at is what generation is too in to be a good deal anymore, and what generation is still a good deal? Again, we want to grow, but we only want to grow for value. I hope you'll never see the day when John Rowe thinks you put growth ahead of value. Because the only kind of growth I care about is growth that adds value for you.

  • Operator

  • Vic Khaitan of Deutsche Asset Management.

  • Vic Khaitan - Analyst

  • Could you talk a little bit about the current political climate or sentiments in Illinois with respect to bankruptcy threat? Has there been any change of feeling from either the governor or from the speaker?

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • Well, I don't think anybody really wants bankruptcy. But let me let Frank give you a more sophisticated answer to that, and then I will pick up after he finishes.

  • Frank Clark - Chairman, CEO, ComEd

  • I think that, while the speaker, in particular, has stated that he does not believe that a ComEd bankruptcy would occur, I believe long-term he is concerned and would not want to bear that responsibility. I also think the governor would not want to see a weakened financial structure in ComEd, since we serve 70% of the state's population. So I think both of them are rightfully concerned.

  • The bankruptcy, of course, occurs legislatively, if freeze legislation passes. As stated earlier, the speaker did in fact send a letter to the governor earlier this month asking for a special session. Almost four weeks have gone by, and no session has been called, no special session has been called. I'm sure the speaker will assess whether his members and the House want to pass such legislation. If he thinks he has enough votes, he will try and move it. If he thinks he has not got enough votes, he will not try and move it, and we will probably face it again in the spring 2007 legislative session. It is my assessment so far the will of the Illinois General Assembly does not favor this legislation.

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • The only thing I can add to that, because Frank is much closer to it, is -- I have to believe this will become a more rational process once the election is over. You have had at least one candidate in this election taking a bad position publicly and then almost calling me up to apologize.

  • I also believe that if the increase goes into effect in January, you get a place where, instead of us almost begging for people to negotiate a phase-in plan that makes it all more comfortable. I think once the increase is in place, you see some political leaders saying, well, I wouldn't cut a deal before because that was cutting a deal for an increase. But now I can cut a deal for a decrease in the increase, and that's a much more attractive political dynamic.

  • So I'm hopeful that this gets to a more right political position for a settlement as we get into the first quarter.

  • I've tried to make it painfully clear -- and everything I say to you today is consistent with what I say to any political leader who asks. I mean I will fight for the value that you have all put in our Generation business. I will fight like a trapped rat for it.

  • On the other hand, I also understand that all the parts of Exelon's business benefit from a harmonious relationship with our government. As long as it doesn't require some major sacrifice of the principle that these are independent companies, Exelon will consider a whole variety of alternatives to make a productive and stable political situation going forward.

  • We started working on this years ago; some of us can even remember when it was a cliff that we were working on. Our preparations look pretty good at the moment, and I think we will continue to find ways to work it out.

  • Operator

  • (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS). It's Greg Gordon of Citigroup.

  • Greg Gordon - Analyst

  • You did comment on carbon in your opening comments. Can you give us a view on when you think we actually will see a window to the monetization of the value that you have in your fleet because of that carbon?

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • Well, I will give you my best insights, for what they are worth. But probably you can pick up any political columnist and get better ones.

  • I do not think you are going to have carbon legislation in the next two years unless both houses change. It's not because I think President Bush is absolutely intransigent; I don't believe that. I just think the chances of people weighing the odds the same are still relatively small. But I do think that by '09, you're probably going to have carbon legislation. I think you're seeing on both sides of the aisle more and more members of both houses believing something mandatory is necessary.

  • I believe it will be some sort of cap-and-trade system. Whether it has a safety valve such as I have advocated or whether it's a more pure cap-and-trade system probably depends on how dramatically the Congress changes. But I think you'll see something in place and having real costs with it sometime in the 2010/2012 timeframe. If I were czar, we would start sooner and start lower and ratchet because I think certainty is worth a lot more in this area than lurching. But no danger of my being czar.

  • Operator

  • Michael Lapides of Goldman Sachs.

  • Michael Lapides - Analyst

  • A question regarding Pennsylvania. Is there any concern or -- I don't want to use the word fear -- regarding having a similar process in Pennsylvania play out that's occurring in Illinois when the POLR kind of expires at the end of the decade? If so, what are the processes you can do to mitigate that in the next couple of years?

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • Well, of course there is. I'm always frightened; that's why you pay me, is to worry about things like this in advance. You see the same sort of issue having bubbled around some of the Western utilities in Pennsylvania whose transition periods ended earlier. However, the Commission in Pennsylvania faced what may be the most miserable situation of all in the Pike County proceeding, and there, it was dealing with a 70% increase and in the end, it settled for 63%. So I think they stood up to their obligations with absolutely remarkable courage.

  • Now, fortunately, in PECO we have a different situation. PECO was, of course, a relatively high-cost utility when all this happened. But it was also a relatively high-rate utility. Because PECO's CTCs -- and, John, correct me if I misstate this, but I think I have it technically correct -- in 2010, when its power purchase agreement ends, the vanishing of the CTC will compensate for most of the increase we would anticipate in the power market. Therefore, we would anticipate a much smaller increase at PECO than other people in Pennsylvania are being forced to bear.

  • So I think the issue in Illinois is that we have had to break the ice, which is always hard on your nose. In Pennsylvania I think other people are breaking the ice, and we're in a relatively favorable position to continue to construct a practical deal.

  • John Young, did I misstate that in any way?

  • John Young - EVP of Finance and Markets, CFO

  • No. As John said, Denis O'Brien is already working on that. The transition charges and payments are very different in their construct than they were in Illinois. When it's all said and done, you have got to predict what market prices might be in 2011. But with today's kind of forecast, residential rates might face anywhere from zero to below single-digit, maybe 5% or 6% increases, something like that, in the residential class. So it's a far different situation.

  • The underlying distribution service company is much healthier financially than where ComEd happens to be right now.

  • Operator

  • Paul Ridzon of KeyBanc.

  • Paul Ridzon - Analyst

  • I was wondering if John Young, you could review what you saw as the '07 drivers at Genco? I didn't catch all of them.

  • John Young - EVP of Finance and Markets, CFO

  • We're going to go into excruciating detail on this in a week and a half, so you're going to get a lot more clarity on the transition in Illinois. The biggest driver is going to be the transition from an underwater market PPA that Genco has with ComEd currently and having a different financial arrangement and physical arrangement in '07. That is the biggest single driver of value that is going to be significant to both Genco and the Company. There are some other smaller ones; the rolling hedge process, the risk management processes that Ian and his team have already done. But the biggest single driver is that ComEd/PPA transition.

  • There's also some small price changes in some of the bilateral arrangements that we already have. And then it's the fact that we're repricing a few things.

  • But if you could, we will go into that in a very detailed sense with the handouts and the booklets we're going to give you in a week and a half.

  • Operator

  • Paul Patterson of Glenrock Associates.

  • Paul Patterson - Analyst

  • Just a quick question on the quarter year-to-date, weather versus normal and the income tax benefit that you guys mentioned -- is that going to be continuing, or how does that work going forward? What kind of tax rate should we be using? If you could just sort of elaborate a little bit on that?

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • I'll let Matt Hilzinger talk about the income tax credit.

  • Matt Hilzinger - SVP, Controller

  • The income tax credit -- there were a variety of settlements in the quarter, and they are more event driven. So I don't think you ought to consider those as kind of ongoing improvement in our effective tax rate.

  • Paul Patterson - Analyst

  • So that's probably not that repeatable?

  • Matt Hilzinger - SVP, Controller

  • Yes, that's exactly right.

  • Paul Patterson - Analyst

  • And then weather versus normal?

  • Joyce Carson - VP of IR

  • Can you repeat the question?

  • Paul Patterson - Analyst

  • Weather versus normal? I saw weather year over year, but it looks like --

  • Michael Metzner - VP, Treasurer

  • That's mentioned, actually, right in our earnings release. I can't put my finger on it right now, but if you go to the release, it's mentioned right in there.

  • Operator

  • Daniele Seitz of Dahlman Rose.

  • Daniele Seitz - Analyst

  • I was wondering if the potential addition of the RPM type rates -- would that have a positive impact on your system, or it doesn't because most of the power is already spoken for?

  • John Young - EVP of Finance and Markets, CFO

  • As RPM -- I don't know if Ian is on the phone or not. But as RPM enters the market and impacts the market price, it will have a positive impact. As our existing hedges roll off and get repriced with new hedges, that price will effectually lift the market price slightly for us.

  • Daniele Seitz - Analyst

  • And not huge?

  • John Young - EVP of Finance and Markets, CFO

  • Just depending on where that price is, it could be significant.

  • Daniele Seitz - Analyst

  • It could be?

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • Daniele, let me try to pick up, and again, I don't know if Ian is on, because he's our real expert. But both Mike and John can help with it. I think, over time, we see the RPM having an increasingly significant effect because it's a symbol of capacity having more value in the market. We all know that if you go back three, four years ago, in most of PJM, there was so much excess capacity that capacity had little value. I think RPM symbolizes an increasing valuation on capacity, and that should benefit us in the --

  • Daniele Seitz - Analyst

  • You don't anticipate much of an impact in '07, though? It will come over time?

  • John Young - EVP of Finance and Markets, CFO

  • I don't think so, Daniele.

  • John Young - EVP of Finance and Markets, CFO

  • No, not in '07.

  • Operator

  • I will now turn the floor back to management.

  • John Rowe - Chairman, President, CEO

  • I think we have finished, and I appreciate everybody's questions. Joyce has introduced this new real-time feedback mechanism for us; we get to watch what's happening to our share price while we talk. This apparently has not been our happiest day, but do take a careful look at those fundamentals.

  • The operating results were very solid in this quarter. We're in fact doing pretty well on our Illinois front, and we're holding the walls very nicely on the value of your Generation fleet. We have tried to point you to all the risks where we are. We won't flinch from them; we face them. That has worked so far, and I believe we will continue to make it work for you. Thanks a whole lot.

  • Joyce Carson - VP of IR

  • Thank you all for joining us.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. This concludes today's Exelon Corporation third-quarter 2006 earnings release conference call. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.