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  • Operator

  • Good morning and afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to today's CNH Industrial 2021 Second Quarter and First Half Results Conference Call. For your information, today's conference call is being recorded. (Operator Instructions).

  • At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Federico Donati, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

  • Federico Donati - Director of IR Global

  • Thank you, Sandra. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone. We would like to welcome you to the webcast and conference call for CNH Industrial Second Quarter 2021 Results for the period ending June 30. This call is being broadcast live on our website and is copyrighted by CNH Industrial. Any other use, recording or transmission of any portion of this broadcast without the expressed written consent of CNH Industrial is strictly forbidden.

  • We are pleased to have here with us today our CEO, Scott Wine; and our CFO, Oddone Rocchetta, who will be hosting today's call. They will use the material available for download from the CNH Industrial website. After their presentation, we will be holding a Q&A session in which also Gerrit Marx President, Commercial and Specialty Vehicles and CEO designated for the -- to be created On-Highway company will be available to respond to questions alongside our CEO and CFO.

  • Please note that any forward-looking statement we might be making during today's call are subject to the risks and uncertainties mentioned in the safe harbor statement included in the presentation material. Additional information pertaining to factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company's most recent report 20-F and EU Annual Report as well as other periodic reports and filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and equivalent authorities in the Netherlands and Italy. The company presentation may include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Additional information, including reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included in the presentation material.

  • One final remark, once again, our team is connecting from different countries. So please forgive us if there are moments of silence during the call while we manage the transition between speakers.

  • I will now turn the call over to Scott.

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Federico, and welcome to all of those of you joining the call. I recently equated our tireless efforts to manage this crazy supply chain situation to a game of Whac-A-Mole. If they ever make that an Olympic sport, I put odds on CNH Industrial to win a gold metal.

  • Our entire team performed admirably in the second quarter, adroitly navigating supply chain constraints, rising commodity costs and ongoing COVID concerns to deliver robust financial results. Solid operational execution and healthy demand from our end markets drove strong net sales across all segments, which in combination with positive pricing and margin improvement activity, helped us establish second quarter records for earnings per share and free cash flow. Impressively, Derek Nielsen and his AG team delivered record EBIT margins of 14.7%.

  • I'm extremely proud of the outstanding execution of our CNH Industrial team in the second quarter. We're keeping our employees safe, delivering for our customers and dealers around the world and making CNH Industrial a little bit better every day. Our industries are clearly in a cyclical upturn and our team's tireless and innovative efforts enable us to capture much of the benefit. This very healthy demand environment, along with the excellent second quarter performance of each of our businesses contributed to growth in both shipments and order books. With the acquisition of Raven Industries, we are adding significantly to our precision agriculture capabilities and establishing the foundation for sustainable competitive advantage.

  • We also continue to make progress towards the spin, defining leadership structures and roles for each company with an emphasis on agility and customer centricity. Both SpinCo and RemainCo are laser-focused on delivering for our customers throughout these activities. With market demand and customer sentiment rising, our production facility is moving mountains to satisfy customer needs and a comprehensive plan being nimbly executed by our dedicated team, CNH Industrial is poised for a very respectable second half. We do anticipate more cost pressure than the first half but we're ready to start 2022 strong with 2 independent businesses.

  • While it is customary to discuss industry volumes in year-over-year format, comparing our Q2 results with last year's pandemic depressed numbers is not exactly insightful. Of note, however, is that in most industry segments, we outperformed pre-pandemic levels. The AG machinery industry remains strong, extending the themes we saw last quarter, including rising commodity prices, growing trade with China and the replacement of aging agricultural machinery fleets.

  • High horsepower tractor sales were impressive across all regions, up almost 50% in North America and nearly 25% worldwide, while in Combines, the demand continues to improve with all markets growing over 10% versus 2020. Compared to 2019, both tractor and combine industry volumes were up across all regions, excepting Combines in Europe, which were relatively flat.

  • We are confident that the agriculture segment will continue to outperform through 2021, given our existing order backlog, which now extends well into 2022. For Construction Equipment, we see persistent growth in both the light and heavy segments. The former is largely driven by continued strength in residential construction, while the latter is due to increased contractor demand as well as preparations for the probable U.S. infrastructure bill.

  • Construction Equipment demand in South America is particularly high driven by overall segment demand in Brazil versus the same quarter in 2019. The construction industry grew double digits on a worldwide basis and was up across all regions aside from heavy in North America and Europe. The European truck market was up 45% year-over-year in the second quarter. Light trucks were up 40%, driven by a combination of surging e-commerce sales, continuing camper growth and an upswing in construction. Median and -- medium and heavy-duty trucks were up 60% due to vaccine progress, accelerating industrial activities and government-funded truck replacement schemes. Compared to Q2 2019, the European market was down 11% with light-duty trucks up 5%, and medium and heavy up 12% -- I mean, down 12%.

  • The over 3.5 ton South American truck market increased by 78% compared to Q2 2020. This market also grew 22% versus Q1 2021 and 24% versus Q2 2019, with solid demand increase across all segments. Buses saw a slight uptick in the quarter driven by post-pandemic community increases and transportation authorities adding capacity. Despite the minor improvement, we still see bus registrations a bit negative for the year.

  • The overall situation for production and dealer inventories did not improve much throughout the quarter, but I'm still pleased with our team's adept handling of the ongoing supply chain issues. Looking at the sequential quarters, retail trends improved with trucks and AG up more than CE, which was flat. Retail trends depend on production and dealer inventory and improving those continues to be challenging. Dealer inventories remain at historically low levels and between supplier-constrained production on one hand and exceptional retail demand on the other, we were unable to fully meet consumer demand or replenishment requirements.

  • Fleets continue to age and indications are that this cycle will remain positive momentum for the next several quarters. Our AG order books more than doubled year-over-year for both tractors and combines driven by strong demand across all regions, with the North American high horsepower order book almost up 6x for tractors and 5x for combines. Although somewhat inflated by anticipated production constraints, the backlog for products now extends well into next year with farmers booking fiscal year 2022 combine slots before even starting to harvest this year's crops. As expected, AG production slightly trailed retail in the quarter.

  • For construction, we underproduced retail worldwide by 6% with company inventory down 40% versus Q2 levels last year. Our order books are up 2.8x year-over-year for the segment with growth in all regions. For trucks, we overproduced retail sales worldwide by 10% in the second quarter in preparation for the planned August break. Light trucks overproduced retail by 11%, while in medium and heavy duty, we overgrew retail by 7% for the second quarter. Company inventory was up 22% in light, down 18% for medium and heavy. The truck book-to-bill in the EU was at 1.22 with light-duty trucks at 1.07 and medium and heavy at 1.74, of which heavy-duty trucks ended at 1.89. Market share for trucks in Continental Europe was up overall for the second quarter of last year with light up 350 basis points to 13.4% and medium and heavy up 80 basis points to 9.1%. Liquefied natural gas market share for IVECO was at 57%, and market penetration for LNG trucks overall remained steady at about 4%.

  • Order intake in Europe was up 150% compared to the second quarter of 2020 with light-duty trucks up 140% and medium- and heavy-duty trucks up 170%. We also saw continued strong demand and results from our parts and service businesses, supporting the efforts of our whole goods businesses as well as providing a boost to our margins.

  • I'll now turn the call over to Oddone to take you through some of our key financial details.

  • Oddone Incisa Della Rocchetta - CFO, Chief Sustainability Officer & President of Financial Services

  • Thank you, Scott, and good morning or afternoon to everyone. And now Slide 6 with our Q2 results highlights.

  • For the top line, second quarter net sales increased 65% due to higher volumes, mix and price realization across retail segments. Similar drivers also accounted for an 800 basis points increase in our gross margin. On the border line, Q2 adjusted EBIT increased by $757 million with an adjusted EBIT margin of 8.2%, driven by strong performance across segments. Free cash flow in the quarter was a cash inflow of $1 billion due to the strong operating performance and positive working capital contribution. Industrial Activities net cash of $1.4 billion, an increase of $800 million from March 31, 2021.

  • Q2 adjusted net income was $583 million, or $0.42 adjusted earnings per share. The adjusted effective tax rate for the quarter was 25%. At the end of Q2 2021, our available liquidity stood at $14.4 billion, up $542 million sequentially.

  • Turning to Slide 7. We focus now on Industrial Activities net sales, which were $8.5 billion, up 55% on a constant currency basis. As you can see at the bottom of the slide, sales by region and product in the quarter-over-quarter comparisons were up across the board albeit on fairly easy comps where there were almost 19% higher on a constant currency basis when compared to the second quarter of 2019 with agriculture 30% higher. Foreign exchange translation had an impact of approximately 10% in the quarter.

  • Agriculture's net sales totaled $4 billion, up 49% on a constant currency basis versus prior year, mainly due to the higher industry demand, better mix in all regions and favorable price realization. If we look at the performance by region, North America and Europe were driven by a better mix of high-horsepower tractors, where South America was fairly strong across all product categories. Construction net sales were $808 million in the quarter, up 86% on a constant currency basis as a result of higher volumes driven by industry demand, channel inventory destocking actions in 2020 and higher price realization.

  • Commercial and Specialty Vehicles net sales reached $3.2 billion in the quarter, up 71% on a constant currency basis year-over-year and 16% higher than 2019 primarily driven by higher truck volumes.

  • Powertrain net sales totaled $1.3 billion in the quarter, up 55% on a constant currency basis. Sales to external customer accounted for 42% of total net sales. That was 63% last year. It is worth noting that the comps on FPT are difficult on external sales as those sales remain strong to Chinese customer after the first quarter 2020 and appeared lower in 2021 in proportion to the recovery that is happening now in the other geographies. Additionally, in the back half of the year, we will start noticing the effect of discontinuation of a large third-party contract for non-road engines.

  • Turning to Slide 8 now with a look at the Industrial Activities adjusted EBIT by segment and driver. Volume and net pricing were the clear drivers for the increase across all segments in the quarter. Pricing alone was higher than the combination of surge in production costs in 2021 and more normalized SG&A spend when considering the exceptional circumstances of Q2 2020.

  • If we take a closer look at each segment, Q2 2021 adjusted EBIT for AG was $582 million, with an adjusted EBIT margin at 14.7%, driven by higher volumes, favorable mix, positive price realization of almost 6% for the quarter, partially offset by higher raw material and freight costs and higher SG&A and R&D spend as well as higher variable compensation.

  • For Construction, adjusted EBIT was $24 million, an increase of $111 million with an adjusted EBIT margin of 3% due to better volume and mix, positive price realization and favorable quality performance, partially offset by higher material costs and freight costs. Last year, profitability was significantly impacted by COVID-19 and exacerbated by necessary destocking and pricing actions.

  • Commercial and Specialty Vehicles adjusted EBIT was $100 million, with adjusted EBIT margin of 3.1%. The $256 million increase was driven by favorable volume and mix and positive price realization, partially offset by higher material cost and higher SG&A and R&D spend from low levels of prior year as well as higher variable compensation. Powertrain adjusted EBIT was $74 million, an increase of $42 million with adjusted EBIT margin at 5.7% with increased volumes partially offset by exceptionally high freight costs of $25 million in the quarter and higher spending for regulatory and new programs.

  • In summary, on the right hand of the slide, gross margin was up across segments with price realization and increased fixed cost absorption more than offsetting the higher input and transportation costs.

  • Moving now to Slide 9 and our Financial Services business. Net income was $99 million, up $46 million compared to Q2 2020, primarily due to lower risk costs and improved pricing on used equipment sales. In the quarter, retail originations were $2.9 billion, and the managed portfolio, including JVs at the end of the period was $27 billion. Delinquency were down sequentially by 10 basis points and they remain at historically low levels.

  • Slide 10. I'd like to discuss the net financial position and free cash flow performance of our Industrial Activities. Free cash flow Industrial Activities was positive $1 billion due to the strong operating performance. While working capital did contribute to the overall result, it was not as notable this quarter as it was more of a balance of inventories and payables growth. Total debt was $24.5 billion at the -- at June 30, 2021, and Industrial Activities, net cash position was $1.4 billion. In May 2021, the company paid $180 million in dividends to shareholders and in the same month CNH Industrial Capital LLC issued $600 million in aggregate principal amount of 1.45% per annum notes due 2026.

  • Liquidity remained strong at $14.4 billion. And as a reminder, the consideration for the acquisition of Raven Industries will be fully paid out of available cash at the closing of the transaction expected in Q4 this year.

  • On Slide 12, we have our full year 2021 outlook. We have again increased our industry expectations across most of our regions and segments as the combination of global reopening, escalating industrial production and increased movements of people and goods continue to drive demand for our products. We expect the AG industry recovery to continue. At this point, we see notable strength in North America and South America for combines and tractors with generally strong demand across all other regions.

  • Farmer sentiment, while stabilizing recently, is still at a high level due to commodity price and income both rising as well as continued Chinese soy and corn demand. This sentiment has been slightly muted by higher input cost inflation, drought situation in some pockets and somehow constrained availability of machinery.

  • For Construction Equipment, we see industry demand continue to recover with heavy equipment significantly increasing its contribution to the up cycle. Optimism from contractors alongside a strong housing market continues to drive sales and order books. Demand for trucks continues to show substantial industry upside for 2021. And while we have slightly lower outlook for Europe, heavy and medium trucks will still increase a fair amount on a year-over-year basis due to the combination of consumer spending, vaccination rates and initial grants from the EU recovery fund.

  • We expect this positive momentum to continue contingent upon the currents of the main European economies and the ability of the supply chain to keep up with demand. Buses are the only segment expected not to grow, mainly due to a still substantially depressed tourism and coach success.

  • Considering our strong Q2 financial results and our robust order books for the remainder of the year, we have chosen to update our guidance as follows. For 2021, we now expect net sales of Industrial Activities to be up between 24% and 28% year-over-year. Our expectation for SG&A is confirmed lower than or equal to 7.5% of net sales. We anticipate positive free cash flow of Industrial Activities to be higher, exceeding the $1 billion mark. R&D and CapEx will be up slightly from the projected $2 billion combined spend for the year.

  • Lastly, we now estimate the impact of raw material cost increases, freight costs and other supply chain constraints to be at around $1 billion for full year 2021 when compared to 2020, offsetting a large portion of the price realization we continue to pursue.

  • Finally, as mentioned earlier, in the back half of the year, we expect FPT's margin to be pressured by both constrained engine component supplies and discontinuation of a meaningful third-party engine contract. FPT is developing new customers to replace these volumes, but this will start in 2022. So for modeling purposes, I wanted to point this out.

  • This concludes my prepared remarks on the financials, and I will now turn it back to Scott for his final remarks.

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Thanks, Oddone. In the 5 weeks since the announcement of the Raven acquisition, our teams have made good progress, both towards confirming our initial assessment and defining a path towards realizing the synergies and strategic objectives we outlined on the call announcing the deal. Those are summarized here on the slide, but I will focus on developments.

  • As we continue to actively plan for integration of Raven, we are both solidifying our plans for building out previously identified value drivers and identifying new areas of opportunity. Integration teams from both CNH Industrial and Raven are defined and engaged. Together, we are working towards obtaining the requisite regulatory approvals, and we foresee no impediments to doing so in a timely fashion. We have seen firsthand how important Raven is to the Sioux Falls community, how deeply rooted they are in the local culture and closely tied to the residents, and we are committed to upholding and extending this admiral quality.

  • Since the announcement we and our dealers have become even more excited about the opportunities that this acquisition will create for our shareholders, employees and farmers alike. I am confident that the combination will cement CNH Industrial as a leader in the precision agricultural space.

  • IVECO launched several new products during the quarter, starting with the IVECO Driver Pal, a pioneering onboard voice-activated driver companion built on the Amazon Web Services and Amazon Alexa features. This innovative system increases driver efficiency and safety by replacing numerous manual operations. The New IVECO S-Way heavy-duty truck is 100% connected vehicle, reducing total cost of ownership via a new engine lineup and other advanced features that increase fuel efficiency.

  • The New Daily and Daily Minibus launch with state-of-the-art engine and aftertreatment system technology to ensure full Euro 6D final and Euro 6E compliance ahead of regulations. The minibus version also includes AIR-PRO, an industry-first adaptive electronically controlled pneumatic suspension system that enhances both comfort and safety. Finally, the IVECO heavy range is completed with the new off-road IVECO T-Way truck designed and engineered for the toughest missions in the most extreme conditions.

  • We recently announced the management team for the post-spin On-Highway company. Gerrit Marx will lead as CEO, and Annalisa Stupenengo will become the Head of Industrial Operations following her 6 years of successfully heading the FPT business. Additionally, Sylvain Blaise will assume responsibility for the Powertrain business unit within the NewCo. Sylvain ran IVECO bus since 2014. And prior to that, he ran a long stent of Case IH here in the United States. Succeeding Sylvain at buses will be Domenico Nucera, who has 20 years of experience in the auto industry and many years with us.

  • CNH Industrial has appointed Scott Moran as Chief CNH Industrial Business System Officer; and Kelly Tolbert as Chief Diversity Inclusion Sustainability and Transformation Officer. These executive appointments form part of CNH Industrial's revitalized emphasis on customer centricity by evolving both our culture and our processes to engender this focus and further our commitment to diversity and inclusion and sustainability.

  • We have designed and will soon announce the first 2 levels of the new off- and on-highway companies. Our new organizations will involve fewer layers of management to strengthen communications, simplify processes and streamline decision-making. We expect to develop clear accountability, functional excellence and a leaner, more efficient business. While this reorganization is a tremendous first step forward -- or towards and more agile and accountable organization, it is just the beginning of our journey. There is an enormous amount of work to do, both to put the new structure into practice and to capitalize on the potential that will be unlocked. Our spend time line has been enriched as we are now planning an on-highway event followed by a virtual roadshow in the second part of November. Preparation for the spend remains on schedule and is certainly supported by strong momentum across the on-highway portfolio.

  • I'm pleased with the way our business is evolving and the substantial progress the team has made over the past 6 months. Their efforts are even more impressive considering how hard they are working to serve customers during these extraordinary circumstances, unprecedented supply chain challenges, continuing COVID-19 issues, the Raven acquisition, the spin-off of the on-highway business and even these incredibly strong markets.

  • Based on macro indicators and the strength of our order books, we expect to maintain most of our momentum in the second half. As global pandemic recovery continues, there will be some costs that reenter the company, but we are determined to keep those to a minimum. There is much talk and more excitement about the U.S. infrastructure bill, but it is unclear what final format will take and how impactful it will be for us directly.

  • We are ramping up investments in both R&D and SG&A to support our products and brands and designing our organization to better serve our dealers and customers. The potential of our businesses is quite bright and not just because of our strong end markets.

  • Going into the second half of the year, we will continue to rely upon the diligence and ingenuity of our tired but still game supply chain and logistics teams. We are one of the very few OEMs in our various peer groups who has not had to take any significant downtime in production and considering the complexity of our global manufacturing system, this accomplishment is one all of our production and support team should be very proud of as I am of them.

  • That concludes our prepared remarks, and we can now open it up for questions. Gerrit Marx will be joining Oddone and I for the Q&A section. Sandra, please go ahead and open the line for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • We'll take the first question from the line of Steven Fisher from UBS.

  • Steven Fisher - Executive Director and Senior Analyst

  • Great. Thank -- the price versus cost was much better than I was expecting for the quarter. When were the pricing actions taken that flowed through the results this quarter? Were those fairly recent? Or was that sort of last year in preparation for this? And how should we think about the differential in the second half? Does it actually go negative on the price versus cost? Or is it sort of just neutralizing? Is it more in Q3 or Q4?

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Steven, the pricing actions, I mean, the commodity markets, as you know, are incredibly dynamic. And across the global footprint, I mean, Brazil was very aggressive with pricing early. Ag has also been -- and we've really just step by step taking the necessary increases in prices that enabled us to get ahead of some of the stuff in the first half.

  • The second half, the pricing is still going to be quite strong. I think we're expecting more costs to come in just as we see what's happening in -- will probably be more balanced as we go into the second half than we were in the first half. But really, it's -- especially in Ag here in North America, the pricing has been very good and the team has been on it every step of the way.

  • Steven Fisher - Executive Director and Senior Analyst

  • Okay. And then just as a follow-up, I noticed that it looks like you have trimmed your expectations for industry sales for North American tractors under 140 horsepower. Can you just talk about what's behind that change?

  • Oddone Incisa Della Rocchetta - CFO, Chief Sustainability Officer & President of Financial Services

  • I think it's the performance in the second quarter. And you know that, that part of the market is much less relevant for us than it is the over 140-horsepower market. And remember, last year, lowest power tractors grew in North America already despite COVID-19.

  • Operator

  • We will take our next question from the line of Kristen Owen from Oppenheimer.

  • Kristen E. Owen - Associate

  • So you talked about an inability to meet Ag equipment demand in the quarter. Can you provide us a sense of how much volume was moved into the back half? And if you could comment on how much of that was the supply chain versus your own production capacity constraints.

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Yes. Almost all of it is related to supply chain. Again, I said consistently, it's the worst supply chain situation I've seen in my career. But as I said in my prepared remarks, I'm really impressed with how our supply chain industrial teams are handling it. They're doing a really nice job. But the big issue for us is what we call our fleet inventory, the stuff that we've built that doesn't have all the parts to complete.

  • And that's several thousand units. I traveled to Grand Island, where we've got combines and Wichita, where we've got our construction equipment. And it's just -- the teams -- we have to continue to produce because we've got so much demand and we don't have the capacity if we just stop the lines. But we're producing without all of the parts, and that's been -- I'm really impressed with how the team manages it. I mean it's really, really a difficult task. But certainly, we've got several thousand units that are in that state of needing to be finished and shipped.

  • Kristen E. Owen - Associate

  • Great. And then my follow-up is related to precision Ag uptake. Can you just provide some additional color on what the uptake was in the quarter, maybe some areas where you're seeing outsized growth. And just so that we can level set on the contribution of Raven going forward, just provide a baseline view on what precision Ag revenue is today.

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Yes. We don't provide specific precision Ag revenue. I mean we've looked at what's -- our peer groups have reported, and we think we're slightly ahead of that. But we are seeing very, very strong demand with the new CH26 tractors that have gone out, the Magnums. We just -- we see an uptake very high across the portfolio. And we know -- I mean, the engagement we've had with Raven, again, they've been a great supplier to us for many years. And as we integrate that more fully into our products, we think we'll offer better solutions for our farmers, and we expect that to grow even more.

  • So we're pleased with where we are with our precision capability. We've, obviously, got more work to do, which is part of the reason for the acquisition. But overall, I think, demand is high and -- we believe as we move forward with integration of Raven, we'll be able to meet increasing demand going forward.

  • Operator

  • We will take our next question from the line of Martino De Ambroggi, Equita SIM.

  • Martino De Ambroggi - Analyst

  • The first question refers to the incremental margin. In your previous call, you indicated a 20%, 25% range for the incremental margin for the group. I suppose it has to be revised upwards considering the higher revenues expectation. And still on the incremental margin in the Ag business with such a strong top line growth, I would have expected a higher operating leverage, where I'm wrong. So performance is extremely good. So 13% is close to your historical peak. But am I wrong in assuming that you could have had a higher operating leverage in Q2?

  • Oddone Incisa Della Rocchetta - CFO, Chief Sustainability Officer & President of Financial Services

  • So Martino, the -- on the quarter, of course, the operating leverage was out of the operating -- operating leverage was higher than what we said last time for the full year. And we expect that, that not to be maintained for the remainder of the year. So we expect a lower operating leverage in the second part of the year. The -- I'm sorry, I think, we have an earthquake in Turin, we are in the middle of a earthquake anyway. Now it stopped. What was I saying? So the operating leverage, the -- I think, the operating performance at 14.7% margin for the quarter in Ag is well above many expectation, I would say. As we said, we didn't have full -- we didn't fulfill completely the demand, so we could have done probably somehow better if we had all the units out in the market.

  • Martino De Ambroggi - Analyst

  • Okay. So for the rest of the year for the group will be lower than what we saw in the first half...

  • Oddone Incisa Della Rocchetta - CFO, Chief Sustainability Officer & President of Financial Services

  • In Q2.

  • Martino De Ambroggi - Analyst

  • Yes. Okay. Okay. But the expectation for the group for the rest of the year?

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • I think we gave our expected -- Oddone walked through that in his prepared remarks. Really, as we see just ongoing supply constraints, I just cannot say enough about how well the entire team is managing through this. And I think it's -- it won't get any easier for us and the costs certainly get higher, but we still -- we expect to deliver very, very solid results in the second half.

  • Martino De Ambroggi - Analyst

  • Okay. And the second question is on the Nikola trucks, how the testing activity is progressing? And what's the updated timetable for the launch both in the U.S. and in Europe?

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Gerrit, do you want to take that one?

  • Gerrit A. Marx - President of Commercial & Speciality Vehicles Segment

  • Yes. Sure, Scott. Martino, the testing activities and also the prototyping and the pre-series is all on track. We have produced 5 alpha protos, 9 beta protos. We have now produced another 2 gamma, which means they are now entering into dry production. So we basically start with gammas then, yes? And we also have now started the first 2 fuel cell electric versions of the Tre prototype in Ulm, Germany. So we are on track. The manufacturing infrastructure in Ulm is being commissioned. We are getting ready for our production readiness in Q4 for the battery electric U.S. version of the Nikola Tre as we initially announced in 2019, and we are on track with the European versions eventually leading then to the launch of the fuel cell electric European version by the end of '23. So all is confirmed and we are progressing well.

  • Operator

  • We will take the next question from the line of Lawrence De Maria from William Blair.

  • Lawrence Tighe De Maria - Co-Group Head of Global Industrial Infrastructure

  • I just want to ask a little bit more about where Raven fits in as, obviously, doing some work on it now. It seems geared towards autonomy. Is that the technology that you think that CNH needs to own for the future? Or does this propel you further to this machine learning infield adjustment business that, obviously, gears is moving forward with? Do you expect to in other words, have that internally with Raven or still relying, let's say, RVO or some outside solution for that kind of technology?

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Yes. No, we're very -- as you heard in my prepared remarks, and then on the call, we're just really excited about bringing the Raven team into the CNH Industrial family. They're -- what we really -- I mean they've proven their understanding of how to take software solutions and make them beneficial to farmers is really what we like. And I think that can take many forms. Right now, I mean, their precision with sprayers is just -- is unmatched. What we've seen with their autonomy programs. It's got incredible potential. And we think with our capability, match with theirs, we can do a lot to facilitate and bring that to market. But really, the culture and the team at Raven gives us confidence that there's really not much we can't do in the precision and digital spaces with their team and ours. And it won't happen overnight, but we're just very encouraged. I mean it's almost plug and play with the current capabilities they have. But as we codevelop together, there's just tremendous opportunities for us. And that really was what spurred us to pursue this.

  • Lawrence Tighe De Maria - Co-Group Head of Global Industrial Infrastructure

  • Okay. And then maybe secondly, maybe could you just give us a little bit more color on the order board in Ag next year? Obviously, that's partially related to supply chain, but there's also a strong demand. So maybe delineate a little bit about the 2 and how far into next year and just overall strength in the next year, it sets up the first half already, obviously.

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Yes. Well, I mean, certainly, North and South America, we're just seeing incredible demand. We're probably into the second half of 2022 right now. And again, with solid pricing. So just encouraged, by the way, the market demand is improving, and it's as much as anything. It's really can we execute in getting products to our dealers and customers and that is the hard work that we're doing. But certainly, the early signs are -- and the orders continue to come in, but right now, we're well into 2022.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. We will take the next question of the line of Ross Gilardi from Bank of America.

  • Ross Paul Gilardi - Director

  • Scott, there was some public filing disclosures made recently about the background of the Raven buyout. And I'm just wondering how much confidence that you have in closing this deal without interference from another bidder. And then on the revenue synergy targets, can you say at all like what portion of the revenue synergies are simply the CNH's existing distribution network. Be it Titan or your other existing dealers that simply could be buying a lot more Raven equipment that they could be before they'd be driving penetration to their customer base?

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Yes. Well, I mean, the proxy filing that came out provides a little bit of color about how the bidding went down, and I think just showed how well our team executed that. Obviously, it was an attractive asset, and we believe that we are the right owner for it. And I think the -- we're very, very confident in that, we are the right owner for it, and our teams are working well. We've got working through the CFIUS filings and the SEC approvals. But no, we think that we're going to bring this one home and quite confident. You never know. I mean it's a -- we have free markets for a reason. But all signs are right now that this will close, as Oddone said, likely in the fourth quarter.

  • And as far as -- we've identified the value streams that we're working on and the very first one is exactly what you just described. How do we take our very, very strong global distribution network for both New Holland and Case IH and facilitate greater sales of Raven's existing products through that category. You mentioned Titan. I mean they're a great Raven partner today, so I don't know how much more there is specifically with them, but they provide a great example of what can be done with Raven. And I think we'll look -- obviously, respecting that they've got a good channel now, they provide really good support for their customers, and we'll look to leverage that. But really, we think the opportunity for global expansion through our network is certainly a good near-term opportunity.

  • Ross Paul Gilardi - Director

  • No, that's great because it would seem like the revenue synergies to your existing distribution network would be a number or something that would be much more perhaps under your control than having to cross-sell to other customers, which -- in any event. And then maybe this is sort of an oddball question, but I'm wondering what portion of Fiat Powertrain's production volume is actually going to the Ag market, obviously, to your Ag business. And I'm trying to get a better sense as to whether or not you'll sustain some pretty meaningful Ag exposure within the on-highway spend simply as Fiat Powertrain goes on to supply the Ag business? And just any color on when we should expect some type of announcement on the mechanics of that supply agreement?

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Yes. Well, FPT has been just a phenomenal partner for us over the last decade, and it's just -- it's nice having them as part of the family. We've worked -- what we want to -- we've not -- there's no surprise that this spin is happening, right? We've known about it for a long time. There's probably no single part of the spend that we spent more time on than drafting and getting this engine services agreement in place to manage it.

  • And it's -- we -- it's -- I call it shared need. We need each other in this case. We're not -- by far, we're not the largest part of the FPT business by any stretch of the imagination, but we are an important part of it. And we feel like that we've got a -- it will be public at some point. But right now, we've got an engine services agreement that both sides have agreed to that we feel very comfortable that we'll manage these businesses for both of us successfully for the next 5 or 10 years.

  • Ross Paul Gilardi - Director

  • But just to be clear, I mean, something that's going to make this spin different versus other truck OEMs is this beyond highway. Spin is actually going to retain some meaningful Ag exposure, which is something that most other truck OEMs wouldn't have. And I just want to make sure I'm thinking about that correctly. And I mean is there anything -- I mean is it 20% of their volume or 10%, 20%, 40%?

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • I don't have the number with me. Do you know roughly?

  • Oddone Incisa Della Rocchetta - CFO, Chief Sustainability Officer & President of Financial Services

  • Yes. Roughly 20% of the volume.

  • Ross Paul Gilardi - Director

  • Roughly 20%. Okay. it's healthy.

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • And it's not just us. I mean they sell to other -- some other AG customers as well. Just validating your point a little bit more.

  • Operator

  • The next question comes from the line of Marta Bruska from Berenberg.

  • Marta Kinga Bruska - Analyst

  • I have to admit, I'm still relatively new to the story. So I hope it doesn't sound too naive, but just looking at your revenue development in the first quarter, up 37% and second quarter, up 60%. It seems it's mathematically relatively a low ball for the second half of the year with the overall revenue headwinds in between 24% to 28% according to your full year guidance. So I'm just trying to understand for the second half, which part of the businesses are you expecting to pull off so [dramatically]. And I have one follow-up question with regards to orders in Ag.

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Well, I think, the answer to your question is mostly related to the comparables throughout the year. I mean, obviously, the first half of 2020 was severely impacted by the pandemic shutdowns less so in the second half. And as you know, if you look back, we had improving results and revenue throughout the second half of 2020. So it's more of the comparable than anything else. All of our businesses, with the exception of Powertrain, where we did talk about losing one of our -- third-party customers are seeing significant growth in the second half. And again, it's really driven by what we can produce because the demand is ahead of our ability to supply.

  • Marta Kinga Bruska - Analyst

  • Okay. Clear. Yes, it's seems still just feels a little bit like nearing your growth, but I get your point. So with regards to -- then the second question, I was just wondering what is the dynamic in order intake in your agricultural business in the second quarter versus the first quarter sequentially? And whether there was like big pre-buying effect in the first quarter because of the price increases. And I know there's seasonality and so on, but just like with regards to the previous cycle, what is your feeling for the sequential development in Ag?

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • We talked about it in the prepared remarks. I mean, really, the high-horsepower tractors are seeing very, very strong demand as our combines with, again, orders well into 2022. So that's the -- where we've seen the biggest demand, but it's quite strong across the portfolio right now.

  • Marta Kinga Bruska - Analyst

  • And also, sequentially, not only year-on-year.

  • Scott Wellington Wine - CEO & Director

  • Oddone, I'm clearly not answering that one quite well enough. So...

  • Oddone Incisa Della Rocchetta - CFO, Chief Sustainability Officer & President of Financial Services

  • No. We were up in orders last quarter, and we are up this quarter. We keep seeing orders coming in at a very good pace.

  • Operator

  • Our final question comes from the line of Daniela Costa from Goldman Sachs. Daniela, your line is open. Can you please check your line is on mute on your side, Daniela, please?

  • Federico Donati - Director of IR Global

  • Sandra, we can take Daniela's question out. Do we have more questions?

  • Operator

  • In that case, that will conclude the question-and-answer session. And I would like to turn the call back over to Federico Donati for any additional closing remarks.

  • Federico Donati - Director of IR Global

  • Thank you, everybody, and have a nice day. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • That will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. Ladies and gentlemen, you may now disconnect.