CompoSecure Inc (CMPO) 2024 Q3 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Good day. And thank you for standing by. Welcome to CompoSecure third quarter, 2024 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, You will need to press star 11 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised to withdraw your question. Please press star 1 1 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.

  • I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Steve Feeder, general counsel. Please go ahead.

  • Steve Feeder - General Counsel

  • Good morning. Thank you for joining us to review CompoSecure's third quarter, 2024 financial results. With me on the call is David Cote, Executive Chairman of CompoSecure, Jonathan Wilk, Chief Executive Officer and Timothy Fitzsimmons, Chief Financial Officer.

  • They will begin with prepared remarks and then we will open the call for Q&A. During this call we will make statements related to our business that may be considered forward-looking, including statements concerning our plans to execute on our growth strategy and our ability to maintain existing and acquire new customers as well as other statements regarding our plans and prospects. Forward-looking statements may often be identified with words such as we expect we anticipate or upcoming. These statements reflect our views only as of today and should not be considered our views as of any subsequent date. We undertake no obligation to update or advise these forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are not promises or guarantees of future performance and are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations for a discussion, material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results.

  • Please refer to the information in our annual report on form 10-K and other reports filed with the SEC available on our investor relations section of our website and the SECs website at sec.gov.

  • Please note that the discussion on today's call may include certain non-GAAP financial measures including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, adjusted EPS and free cash flow. The company believes these non-GAAP financial measures provide useful information to management and investors regarding certain financial and business trends, impacting the company's financial condition and results of operation.

  • These non-GAAP financial measures should not be considered as an alternative to net income or any other performance measures derived in accordance with us GAAP and may be different from similarly titled non-GAAP measures used by other companies. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP is available in our press release and earnings presentation available in the investor relations section of our website.

  • Thank you. And with that said, let me turn the call over to Executive Chairman, Dave Cote.

  • David Cote - Executive Chairman

  • Well, it's nice to address you for the first time as Executive Chairman of CompoSecure.

  • We were attracted to the business because it hit the six hot buttons that we use to evaluate acquisitions at Honeywell.

  • Great position, good industry technology differentiation, organic sales growth in organic sales growth and margin expansion. We do see good long term opportunity that being said there's work we have to do to create a high performance culture, build our operating capability and reinvigorate organic sales growth. That work will require additional expenses. You can see it reflected in our fourth quarter estimate where we're okay on sales and lowering our adjusted EBITDA range based on a combination of performance and expenses incurred to position for the future.

  • In our early look at 2025 it appears sales growth could be lower than it was in 2024 and EBITDA growth about the same as this year reflecting again, a combination of performance and investment for the future. Naturally, we expect all the actions and investments to show results, but it does take time. It's the right thing to do is we establish a high performing culture that delivers for our customers, investors and employees.

  • So that's I'll turn it over to John Wilkes.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • Thanks Dave and thank you for joining us for our third quarter conference call. Before discussing our results. I want to take a moment and reflect on Dave's comments where we are as a company.

  • First, as we've previously talked about, the resolute transaction was important as it simplified our dual class share structure, eliminated tax distributions and is expected to deliver approximately $20 million more in free cash flow annually.

  • Second, we are very pleased to have Dave Cote is our executive Chairman and add several highly experienced leaders to our board.

  • Finally, this is an exciting time for the company and we are committed to building a culture centered on high performance, driving efficiency through the compo secure operating system, reinvigorating the organic growth and diversifying the business and customer base through a creative M&A.

  • We are incredibly well aligned around these priorities and look forward to working with Dave and the expanded board to drive our continued success.

  • Now on to the quarterly results. We delivered double digit growth in net sales and adjusted EBITA for the third quarter driven by strong international performance, consistent sales execution and continued demand for our innovative payment cards.

  • We had numerous high profile customer card programs launched during the quarter which I'll highlight in a few slides.

  • And I'm also excited to share that we recently signed a two year contract extension with one of our larger customers capital 1. We believe that securing this contract extension continues to demonstrate the trust our customers place in our ability to deliver consistent differentiated products at scale.

  • Net investment from Arculus, which includes revenue less direct expense continues to trend favorably year-to-date total net investment was $6.5 million versus $11 million during the same period last year and remains on track to turn positive in 2025.

  • As mentioned in our press release earlier today, we've revised our 2024 outlook. Net Sales guidance is now expected to range between $418million and $424 million and adjusted EBITDA guidance is now expected to range between $148million and $151 million to reflect the investments for future growth that Dave spoke about.

  • Now turning to slide 4, I always like to share our company objectives as we progress throughout the year, we remain on track and have achieved several important milestones this year including bringing key innovations to the market such as the mirror card, completing a significant debt refinancing, enhancing our board of directors and earning nine industry awards including best security initiative for Arculus and best payment solution by a vendor for the Echo mirror card.

  • Turning to slide 5, you can see a few of the examples of exciting customer card programs that are launching this quarter US bank smartly, Goldman Sachs debit, IDFC in India, HSBC in Singapore, as well as a few others.

  • Looking at industry trends on slide 6, over the past three quarters, our customers have experienced sustained growth in purchase volumes and new customer acquisitions. This momentum is fueled by several factors including a robust product refresh strategy and ongoing investments in marketing and business developments.

  • For example, Amex spotlighted their Amex gold card program in their Q3 earnings. This program has become a top premium choice among millennial and gen Z customers and features the limited edition white gold metal card that we mentioned last quarter.

  • On slide 7, you can see consistent messaging about the ongoing strength of both consumers and the economy reflected in the latest earnings announcements from our customers and partners.

  • Consumer spending remains robust, particularly in experience based categories like travel and dining areas ideally suited for premium cards. For those who may be newer to CompoSecure, I wanted to provide some general insight on payment cards and why they drive value from a card from a cardholder standpoint, they provide a sense of quality exclusivity and a tactile experience that customers highly prefer.

  • That appeal has expanded over the last 10 years. It was first driven in the high net worth private bank market but has significantly expanded to the math affluent now, Gen Z and millennials. From an issuer perspective, metal cards offer a strong ROI by attracting new customers, encouraging increased card use and top of wallet spend all at a relatively low cost compared to other rewards expense in card programs.

  • On slide 9, when we look at differentiated capabilities, we believe Compo Secure is unique in this market. We developed this market from scratch over 20 years ago and have more than 20 years of experience in doing this. Intellectual property including over 60 issued patents and another 35 pending and we can scale to support our customer needs. Last year, we produced over 31 million metal cards alone.

  • We believe there's simply no other company that can provide a combination of innovation and high quality products at the scale that we can offer, which takes me to our Arculus platform on slide 10. We can add Arculus Technology to any payment card to provide enhanced security for both fiat and digital assets.

  • Arculus authenticate can be used for log in and step up authentication to help reduce fraud and protect assets. And Arculus cold Storage can be used to securely store and use digital assets with that.

  • I'll turn it over to Tim for more information on our financial performance.

  • Timothy Fitzsimmons - Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you John and good morning everyone. I'll provide a more detailed overview of our Q3 2024 financial performance and then turn it back to John before we open the call for questions. Unless stated otherwise, all comparisons and variance commentary on a year over year basis. In Q3 net sales increased by 11% to $107.1 million compared to $96.9 million as John mentioned the increase was primarily driven by our strong national growth which more than doubled compared to the prior year, as we continue to see momentum from new products. We also had a solid domestic quarter even though it was down compared to the year ago period. We expect domestic growth to rebound in the fourth quarter.

  • As mentioned, international sales performed well this quarter up 13% or 6 million from the prior year. Gross profit for Q3 was up 13% to $26 million compared to $22 million from the prior year. With gross margins of 52% compared to 51% in the prior year. The increase in gross margin was mainly due to favorable product mix and improved product efficiency. Adjusted EBITDA Q3 increased by 13% to $40 million compared to $35.5 million in the prior year with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 37.3% compared to 36.7% in the third quarter of 2023. The 69 basis point increase reflects the operating leverage inherent in our business as we drive improved efficiencies and cost management. Adjusted net income which excludes the impact of non cash fair value adjustments to the warrants earn out revaluations and stock compensation was up 18% in 23 to 26 months.

  • As detailed in our press release today, we reported a GAAP net loss for the quarter driven entirely by the significant improvement to our stock price during the quarter, which led to a change in the fair value of the warrant liability or our consideration liability and derivative liability. These non cash value adjustments offset net income by $108 million this quarter compared to a $6 million non cash benefit in the year ago period. Our adjusted diluted EPS was $0.27 per diluted share and $0.24 per diluted share in the prior year.

  • We always like to provide you with a year-to-date results. In addition to the quarter on slide, 14 and 15, you could see our year-to-date financial results which reflect our continued growth on the top and bottom line. On that note and as John mentioned earlier, we revised our 2024 guidance. We now expect net sales guidance to range between $418million to $424 million. Adjusted EBITDA guidance to range between $148million and $151 million. The Q4, the implied adjusted range is $30million to $33 million reflecting the investment to build out our M&A capabilities. Separately, Q4 will include one time non-recurring professional expenses of between $4million to $6 million excluded from the adjusted EBITDA rates that I just provided.

  • Turning to the balance sheet as of September 30 2024 we had $52.7 million of cash and cash equivalents and total debt of $330 million. This includes $200 million of term loan and $130 million of exchangeable notes. This compares to cash and cash equivalents of $41.2 million and total data of $340.3 million at December 31st 2023 in cash and cash equivalents of $23.8 million and total data $345 million at September 30, 2023.

  • Looking at our leverage ratios, we provide both our overall debt leverage ratio and our bank agreement secured debt leverage ratio as our bank agreement is calculated with slight differences. CompoSecure secured debt leverage ratio was 1.25 times at September 30th, 2024 compared to 1.39 times at December 31st 2023 and 1.48 times at September 30th 2023 at September 30th 2024. We had a bank agreement senior secured debt leverage ratio of 1.06 based on a total adjusted senior secured debt of $170 million and trailing 12 month bank adjusted EBITDA of $160 million. This compares to 1.39 times at December 31st 2023.

  • We'd like to mention that as a result of our recent refinancing our credit facility, we're able to reduce our senior security debtness by cash on hand up to $30 million in this calculation.

  • Now turning to our cash flow statement on slide 18, you can see that the net cash provided by operating activities year-to-date was $94 million up 21% versus the comparable period last year.

  • I also want to take a moment to reiterate the impact of the resolute holdings transaction completed on September 17th. As a reminder the selling shareholders exchange all of their class B units for class A shares and resolute acquired 49.3 million class A shares representing approximately 60% of CompoSecure's outstanding shares. Therefore, tax distributions to the former unit holders of our subsidiary LLC will no longer take place. We will pay taxes of the C Corp going forward with the anticipation of approximately $20 million of additional free cash flow per year. At September 30th 2024 compos Secure had 82.7 million shares outstanding all of which were class A shares with the increase resulting from the resolute holdings transaction.

  • I'll now turn it back to John to provide closing remarks.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • Thank you Tim. As we are two months from closing out the year, I want to take the opportunity to provide some early thoughts on 2025. You can see on page 19, some headwinds and tailwinds as our market expands, we continue to monitor closely increase competition as well as the use of digital wallets.

  • In addition, we as many companies continue to face rising labor costs and competition for top talent.

  • In addition to some global uncertainty that still looms for 2025.

  • When we look at the tailwinds heading into 2025 we've got strong long term contracts, solid backlog and confidence in the metal card market supported by positive customer sentiment.

  • With a growing focus on fraud reduction. We see opportunities to make an impact with Arculus authenticate and we plan to continue our commitment to innovation with a robust pipeline.

  • We also anticipate greater supply chain stability, enabling more consistent material costs and expect strong cash flow to support business diversification and growth through a creative M&A activity.

  • I want to conclude by highlighting a few key points we covered today, we delivered strong results with growth on both the top and bottom line driven by international performance and consistent sales execution. And we signed a two year contract extension with one of our larger customers.

  • Our customers are reporting sustained growth and commitment to ongoing marketing investment for premium card programs which reaffirms our belief in a strong growing market for metal payment cards.

  • Arculus net investment continues to trend favorably and we remain on track for Arculus to turn profitable in 2025.

  • With the addition of Dave Cote is our Executive Chairman and new prominent leaders on the board. We are well equipped to continue driving organic growth, maximizing operating efficiencies in the business and pursuing new strategic growth opportunities through M&A.

  • With that, I'd like to open up the call for Q&A.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • John Todaro from Needham & Co.

  • John Todaro - Analyst

  • Hey guys, thanks for taking my question and congrats on all the progress that we've seen over the last quarter. I guess first, if I could get into one, can you just give us a little bit better sense on M&A whether that would be focused on the supplier side to grow margin or are we talking more different revenue opportunities with different business segments?

  • And then second, I would love to get David's view on Digital Authentication Arculus and where you kind of see that business long term and in any kind of strategy there.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • Thanks John. I'll take the first first. So when we think about M&A right, we've talked about looking really up and down the value chain. Think about things that could be close in to things that we do today to things adjacent to what we do today or things that Compos expertise would, sort of be well aligned to and, or things that, that fall into Dave's wheelhouse and, and his experience set. So we are looking sort of up and down the value chain. But it's still early for us in terms of talking more specifically than that. And with that, I'll, I'll let Dave answer around Arculus authenticate and that technology in general.

  • David Cote - Executive Chairman

  • And when it comes to Arculus, I'd say for a technology neophyte like me, it takes a little bit of work in the beginning to try to understand what exactly is it doing?

  • Once you do it's actually pretty impressive.

  • The, so the technology is there, we spent a lot of money to develop it. I like what it looks like. The thing that we need to do a better job with is the go to market and having customers internalize what's there and how they can use it to save money themselves just preventing fraud. So that's part of the thing that we have to solve here is how do we do that? But I like the technology.

  • John Todaro - Analyst

  • Great. Thank you both. Appreciate it.

  • Operator

  • Cassie Chan from Bank of America.

  • Cassie Chan - Analyst

  • Hey guys. Thanks for taking my question. I guess just wanted to ask on the implied fourth quarter guide that you guys gave. Can you just give a little bit more color as to, you know, obviously implies a pretty significant deceleration versus the third quarter relative to the 11% revenue growth and just any, you know, expectations around the international versus domestic piece, obviously, international saw really strong growth. Are you expecting that to carry over into the fourth quarter as well? And then I have a follow up on free cash flow? Thank you.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • Thanks Cassie. So when we step back and look at the year, right, we had guided at the start of the year 408 to 428.

  • Our updated guide is 418 to 424. Just reflective of you know, where we think we finished the year fourth quarter for us as you look at last year, you know, you see some down relative to Q3 and that's not abnormal for us. So, finishing up, we think overall above the midpoint of where we guided for the year. And on the international side, yeah, we definitely saw a strong third quarter. What I've said is international will just be lumpier than the domestic business and think about international for the year, right, at approximately 20% think of that range to 23 given where we started the year. I've said last quarter, think of it on the perhaps the lower end of that range. So, a nice recovery in terms of international performance in Q2 Q3, but we'll always see some volatility in that number.

  • Cassie Chan - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. And then I guess just on free cash flow, you know, just anything about what's driving that and then obviously, the resolute investment help them lock another 20 million. I guess what free cash flow growth could look like going forward in the future as well. What leverage you have there? Thank you.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • So we haven't given a forward, you know, free cash flow forecast. What we've given is the increase that we believe we'll see because of the resolute transaction. And I think we talked last time about the levers that drive it with the, reduced tax distributions, increase actual cash tax payments with the tax receivable agreement. The net of those three being an increase of we believe $20 million a year annually in free cash flow that we can use to reinvest back in the business.

  • Cassie Chan - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Jacob Stephan from Lake Street Capital Markets.

  • Jacob Stephan - Analyst

  • Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions. Congrats on all the progress you guys have made in the last quarter here as well. Just kind of wanted to ask on Arculus a little bit, obviously, you know, some positive commentary on track to turn positive in 25. But over the last kind of week or so here, we've seen some announcements out of capital one visa kind of fraud prevention. And you know, how does, how does our currently stack up and you know, is there anything that you know, you guys can do to differentiate yourself there in a in this environment.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • Yeah, so if you look as is our understanding at the the Visa solution, it ties to cardholder but not individual, it doesn't solve the same fraud problems that we see in the market in terms of being able to use the two factor authentication for step up authentication for medium to high risk transactions. And yes, you know, we do see other technologies out there. The benefit to Arculus, right is it's using the Fido standard which we believe people are coalescing around in terms of large tech companies, Microsoft Apple, Google, Facebook, et cetera, leveraging that in a new and novel way by incorporating it into a payment card. And Jacob, we believe we're the the first and only people that are are doing that, with a fight authentication token at this point. So, I share Dave's comments in terms of, you know, I'm really pleased with the technology we've built. I've said, and I'll say again we want to see more progress in the market and when we look at the conversations we're having in the pipeline ahead, we feel good about that.

  • Jacob Stephan - Analyst

  • Got it that's helpful. And maybe just if I could kind of ask a broader strategy question, Dave, you've been at the compo with comp for a little bit here. Now, what are you seeing internally in the business areas that you could, overall improve efficiency today?

  • David Cote - Executive Chairman

  • Well, that's kind of a comprehensive question for me because there's very little I ever look at in any company that I'm associated with that I don't think can be better whether it's operations, sales, M&A so I would point to everything just like I did at Vertiv and just like I did at Honeywell. So you'll see us working on everything.

  • It comes back to, you know, you've heard me probably say this before, but I always say any company is just an accumulation of processes, most of them cross functional.

  • And if you truly believe every process can be made more efficient and more effective, well, it gives you a lot of work to do and a lot of upside. So I feel I feel good about all the, let's say, opportunity that we have here.

  • Jacob Stephan - Analyst

  • Okay. Got it. Thank you guys.

  • Operator

  • (Inaudible) B. Riley Securities.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • Hey, good morning guys. Hey, can I just get a little more color on the cost in Q4 to be ongoing for the M&A infrastructure? You just give us a little more detail on that like it is an entire team of people? Is it a permanent several million dollar increase in your fixed cost structure to implement your infrastructure? Give us some thoughts on that. Thanks.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • So how we're making investments in building out M&A capability inside this company. And yes, that starts with there were a team of folks working with Dave and Tom not that actually identified CompoSecure as an opportunity and led to this transaction. We have brought those resources in house to help drive that function for this company. Yes, those would be some of the ongoing expenses that we will see. We think it's a critical investment for the future. You know that Dave talked about earlier, you know, in addition, they're just some one time costs, you know, closing out the transaction and as we look to position ourselves for future M&A.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • But the ongoing cost that would you say it's $2million to $4 million a quarter, give us a, give us a thought on what it is.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • We, haven't broken that estimate out yet. How and there's, there's more in that bucket. So please don't use that as your as your guide forward. No, that would not be the right number.

  • Unidentified Participant - Analyst

  • Okay. Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Reggie Smith from JPM.

  • Reggie Smith - Analyst

  • Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question.

  • I was disconnected so you may have covered this already, David. But I'm curious, you, you mentioned the culture of excellence and I heard the last question about, the last answer rather about, you know, kind of looking at everything and, and cleaning things up but curious, like how do you define that? And if you could, you know, give us a roadmap of how cleaning that up or improving that looks does require, you know, different operators or like how should we think about that? And how long it would take to achieve that? Thank you. I got, and I got a follow up question.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • Thanks, Reggie. So when we look at that kind of work, Reggie as an example, I will continue to refer to the Compo secure operating system. This is building on work that Dave and team did at Honeywell and have done at Vertiv as well in terms of putting in far more systematic ways at looking at improving the efficiency and effectiveness of all of the processes that we've had here. So, Reggie, if you think about it, right, we've grown from a company when I started, we were about $90 million in revenue this year. We're, you know, $400 million plus, right? As you think about the maturing of that company and the operational processes using these tools and frameworks to drive out that efficiency and effectiveness. We're literally sitting in a conference room as we speak with value, stream maps up on the walls, looking at opportunities and how we can attack them. So we look to make improvements as we move through 25 that will help margins and or reinvest back in the business to fuel our growth. But we are incredibly serious about it from our side in embracing some of these concepts and tools.

  • Reggie Smith - Analyst

  • That sounds like it, appreciate that. And then there was a comment or phrase in the release where they talked about where Dave mentioned opportunities and, and challenges. And I noticed you guys included a slide in the presentation when you called out. I think competition and, and metal cards and acknowledge wallet, digital wallets wasn't sure if those were those two concepts were at all linked, maybe to talk a little bit about the challenges that are exciting you guys next.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • Yeah. So Reggie, we highlighted both headwinds and tailwinds and this is something stylistically, I think that Dave has done historically at Honeywell and Vertiv and other places and likes to, you know, as we're ending a year, starting a year, sort of help give a state of the state and, and what's happening. So we tried to outline both on that page and we've talked, I think almost every time about some of the things on the right side in terms of tailwinds, which is, competition competitors that are out there. We've been competing for last 4-5 years with a number of the traditional card manufacturers and others. And it's something we continue to monitor closely. You know, as we have in past years and the work that we're doing around the operating system, right. A lot of that puts us in a more competitive position over time. The digital wallet comment is one that, you know, if people ask me what keeps you up at night, it's something we're always watching Reggie. But my conclusions about digital wallets haven't changed. Cards are going to be around a long time, in terms of, you know, what we've seen from consumers, a lot of that fueled by tap to pay and its capability at point of sale.

  • Reggie Smith - Analyst

  • Now that makes sense. And I, I agree. I think cards will be around for a while as well. Thanks for taking the questions. Appreciate it.

  • Jonathan Wilk - Chief Executive Officer

  • Thanks, Reggie.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.