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  • Operator

  • Good day and welcome to today's Colgate-Palmolive Co.

  • second-quarter 2012 earnings conference call.

  • Today's call is being recorded and is being simulcast at www.ColgatePalmolive.com.

  • Just as a reminder, there will be a slight delay before the question and answer session begins due to the Web simulcast.

  • At this time for opening remarks I'd like to turn the call over to the Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Miss Bina Thompson.

  • Please go ahead, ma'am.

  • Bina Thompson - VP of IR

  • (Technical difficulty) Ian Cook, Chairman, President and CEO; Dennis Hickey, CFO; Victoria Dolan, Corporate Controller; and Elaine Paik, Treasurer.

  • This conference call will include forward-looking statements and these statements are made on the basis of our views and assumptions as of this time and are not guarantees of future performance.

  • Actual events or results may differ materially from these statements.

  • For information about certain factors that could cause such differences investors should consult our most recent annual report on Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and available on our website, including the information set forth under the caption Risk Factors and Cautionary Statements on Forward-Looking Statements.

  • We will discuss organic sales growth excluding foreign exchange, acquisitions and divestitures.

  • We will also discuss gross profit, operating profit, net income and earnings per share excluding the impact of the one-time items described in the press release.

  • A full reconciliation with the corresponding GAAP measures is included in the press release and is posted on the Investor Relations section of our website at www.ColgatePalmolive.com.

  • We are very pleased with our second-quarter results, particularly in light of an increasingly unpredictable global economy.

  • Of particular note is our organic sales growth which was positive in every division and up double digits in the emerging markets, accelerating from the first quarter's strong pace.

  • The total Company organic sales growth of 8% reflected a good balance between volume of 4.5% and price of 3.5%.

  • Our marketshares are strong around the world and our categories are growing.

  • Even in the developed markets we see category growth, albeit modest.

  • And we believe we have the right strategies and plans in place for 2012 and beyond.

  • As you know, one of our four strategic initiatives is innovation for growth and that focus has been one of the key drivers of our top-line momentum.

  • You'll hear more about recent launches as well as new products to come when we go through the divisions.

  • Gross margin increased 50 basis points and continues to be higher than the fourth quarter of last year.

  • The increase was somewhat less than previously anticipated due primarily to higher foreign exchange transaction costs from a rapidly strengthening dollar during the quarter.

  • However, we expect gross margin to increase sequentially in the third and fourth quarter and to be up within our targeted range of 75 to 125 basis points for the full year.

  • Our increase in margin and control of overheads has allowed us to increase advertising both absolutely and as a percent of sales as we told you we would.

  • And with EPS as expected, overall a healthy income statement.

  • Earnings per share increased 6% and was up strong double-digit on a currency neutral basis.

  • Our balance sheet remains strong; both inventory and receivable days declined year over year and our free cash flow before dividends increased 8%.

  • So then let's turn to the divisions, first starting with North America.

  • Our business in North America remains solid.

  • Our categories are still growing and we are growing even faster.

  • Both for the quarter and on a year-to-date basis our all outlet market shares are up in toothpaste, manual toothbrushes, liquid hand soaps, bar soaps, body wash, all-purpose cleaners and fabric conditioner.

  • Our strong advertising support behind a broad array of new products has helped drive these results.

  • We are very pleased with the continued strong performance of Colgate Optic White toothpaste and are very excited about the launch this quarter of Colgate Optic White mouthwash to complete the existing regimen of toothpaste and toothbrush.

  • This mouthwash, our first entry into the US market, effectively whitens teeth and freshens breath.

  • The alcohol free formula helps protect against future stains and reaches hard to brush areas.

  • It kills bad breath germs while being enamel safe.

  • Reception by the trade has been excellent.

  • In addition to the mouthwash we are also launching Colgate Optic White Enamel White toothpaste which fortifies enamel through re-mineralization for strong teeth while providing a whitening benefit.

  • This bundle addresses a large segment of whitening users and nonusers who fear long-term enamel damage.

  • Enamel variants grew 22% in 2011 and now represent almost 6% of the toothpaste market.

  • In personal care in both liquid hand soap and body wash we are expanding our fragrance footprint with Softsoap Pampered Hands Coconut Lime foaming hand soap and Softsoap Citrus Splash and Barry Fusion body wash.

  • The body washes are created with real fruit extracts and best in class wake me up fragrances along with strong invigorating graphics to help differentiate the products on the shelf.

  • In the dish liquid category we are launching Palmolive Fresh Infusions.

  • This new line addresses the mass-market consumer's desire for affordable luxuries.

  • The line has premium looking packaging combined with naturally inspired fragrances, lemon thyme, ginger white tea and lime basil.

  • Priced at a premium to our regular Palmolive dish liquid the product also is expected to deliver category growth for our customers.

  • Europe, South Pacific -- the macroeconomic environment in Europe continues to be difficult with low consumer confidence and high unemployment in many countries.

  • But despite that we were able to achieve positive volume and organic sales growth.

  • And as well, a decline in price, largely the result of increased in-store activity, was the lowest it has been in 10 quarters.

  • And we're still seeing growth across many of our categories albeit at a modest pace.

  • As referenced in the press release, we are increasing our strong oral care market shares in much of the region.

  • And as you would expect, we have a rich array of new products planned for the balance of the year to continue to grow share and volume.

  • In the oral care category we will be re-launching our Colgate MaxWhite One line in the impactful red packaging that has been used so successfully in both the US as Colgate Optic White and in Latin America as Colgate Luminous.

  • The bundle will include toothpaste, toothbrush and mouthwash.

  • As you would expect, there will be fully integrated marketing to support the bundles' benefit of one shade wider in one week that lasts.

  • To address the problem that three out of four people may suffer from gum problems, we are also launching a full regiment to fight gum problems, Colgate Total Pro Gum Health, which includes toothpaste, toothbrush, mouth rinse and interdental devices.

  • The toothpaste is proven to reduce gum problems by up to 88%.

  • A re-launch of our professional line of mouthwashes transitioning to cylindrical bottles will offer a more modern and cleaner presentation while at the same time representing (inaudible) the growth opportunity.

  • In personal care we are rolling out a range reinvention for both our Palmolive Naturals shower gel line with new and improved packaging, new formulas and new innovative variants, as well as for our Palmolive men's shower gel.

  • Under our recently acquired Sanex brand we will introduce Double Protect deodorant for men approved by dermatologists.

  • This provides highly effective 48 hour protection against body odor caused by everyday stress as well as wetness caused by physical activity.

  • Another line of Sanex deodorants under the Zero Percent brand will continue to be rolled out across the region.

  • This has natural mineral alum to provide natural efficacy.

  • Latin America -- the strong growth momentum continues throughout Latin America.

  • Organic sales growth accelerated from the first quarter to over 15% despite a much more difficult year-over-year comparison.

  • Marketshares increased year over year in virtually every category, the only exceptions being deodorants, where we were level with a year ago period, and hair care where we declined modestly.

  • Our strong growth in toothpaste marketshare, up 130 basis points year over year to 79.2%, is driven by innovation.

  • Colgate Luminous White, launched in Brazil and Mexico in October, reached 5.4% and 5.7% respectively in year to date national readings.

  • We expanded the bundle this year to Argentina, Colombia, Chile, Uruguay, Central America and Peru.

  • Colgate Luminous White now accounts for 3% of the market across the region with only one SKU.

  • Our regional manual toothbrush share increased 130 basis points year over year.

  • We are market leaders everywhere but Mexico where we are fast closing the gap.

  • Our share there is at 41.9% year to date with the latest reading at 43.4%.

  • Regional mouthwash marketshares are up 530 basis points on a year-to-date basis to 37.5% with the latest reading at 37.9%.

  • So we expect the momentum to continue in this region as we introduce more innovation into the market in the second half across categories.

  • Colgate Total Professional Gum Health toothpaste mentioned earlier for Europe was successfully launched in Brazil in the first quarter and is now being launched in Mexico where our toothpaste market share is now over 83%.

  • This month in Brazil we are launching Colgate Luminous White Enamel Shine gel with a similar positioning to the enamel variants we are launching in the US market.

  • In personal care we are launching a line of Palmolive Naturals Pomegranate across bath and shower gel, liquid hand soap and bar soap.

  • We also have some exciting new products in the deodorant category later in the year.

  • And in home care we are introducing Fabuloso, our all-purpose cleaner, with an even higher fragrance level to provide more fragrance all day.

  • This should help continue to drive our strong regional cleaner share of 24%.

  • Greater Asia Africa -- organic sales in this region were strong, up 12%, as and in Latin America an acceleration from the excellent first-quarter results.

  • Across Asia, as referenced in our press release, toothpaste shares are strong.

  • In India our year-to-date market share is up to 52.8% with the most recent reading at 53.8%.

  • Both lower priced as well as premium priced variants contributed to the share growth, increasing consumption in the rural as well as urban areas.

  • In China our toothpaste share climbed to 33.7%, up 150 basis points on a year-to-date basis.

  • Both tea flavored and whitening toothpaste variants are meeting with success in that vast market.

  • We have spoken to you before about success in the mouthwash category and that continues, particularly as we expand Colgate Plax Fresh Tea mouthwash across the region.

  • This new product was first launched in China in March of last year and in the first half of this year expanded to Thailand, Hong Kong, the Philippines, Vietnam, India and Malaysia.

  • The launch has been supported by a fully integrated marketing campaign including trial generating sampling programs and has added incremental share.

  • Our overall mouthwash share is up to 20.5% in the latest period from 10.8% in 2009.

  • Our recent lunch in Thailand, for instance, drove our share from 16.1% to 21.2% with Plax Fresh Tea accounting for 3 full share points.

  • And we've had similar success in Hong Kong and the Philippines.

  • Building on these strong results we will continue to roll out the bundle to other countries in the region in the second half of this year.

  • Another successful innovation in oral care is our SlimSoft toothbrush.

  • The tapered bristle segment is the fastest-growing segment in Asia and has a very big presence in Thailand.

  • Therefore this was the lead market and we launched there in April of this year.

  • We've achieved over a three share in three months since launch with an increase in our overall share as well.

  • In-store activities, which contributed to this success, were planogram placement next to the leading competitor, product testers, off-shelf display and toothbrush consultants who explained the product benefits.

  • Follow-on countries in the quarter were China, Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong and we expect to launch it in other countries in greater Asia and Africa in the second half of this year.

  • Hills, as in every other division Hill's delivered organic sales growth in the quarter.

  • Our new product launches are beginning to bear fruit and we will have more activity throughout the second half of the year.

  • Here in the US are recent launch of Science Diet Ideal Balance has met the objective of positioning us better to compete against the natural segment.

  • The product is now in full distribution and benefiting from the launch of companion Ideal Balance treats in the month of June.

  • In the pet superstores 55% of Ideal Balance consumers are new to the Hill's brand and coming from national brands.

  • In addition, in the US we will be re-launching our entire Science Diet line with a more consumer friendly ingredient profile.

  • For example, the diet will not contain any byproducts.

  • Across Europe we will be re-launching our Science Plan line with a much improved taste profile.

  • As you know prescription diet is also an important part of our business here in the US where our products are recommended seven to one by veterinarians.

  • We've told you previously about Prescription Diet y/d with breakthrough technology for thyroid health in cats.

  • Launched both here and across Europe, it has met with great success in the veterinary community and further builds our credibility in the area of therapeutic nutrition.

  • Another successful new product is Prescription Diet i/d, low-fat for gastrointestinal health.

  • Shipments and distribution are way ahead of our expectations and we plan additional distribution driving activities for the balance of the year.

  • So in summary, we are delighted that the strong momentum from the first quarter has continued into the second quarter of 2012, particularly given the uncertain macroeconomic conditions around the world.

  • Our solid second-quarter results reflect the ongoing success of our four strategic initiatives -- getting closer to the consumer, the customer and the profession; being more efficient and effective in everything we do; continuing to deliver innovative new products around the world; and building a strong team of leaders for today and tomorrow.

  • We look forward to sharing our continued progress throughout the balance of the year.

  • And now, Brian, we would like to open up the call to questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions).

  • Nik Modi, UBS.

  • Nik Modi - Analyst

  • Just would love your thoughts -- I mean, the top-line was phenomenal; I am sure share gains have to do with a lot of that.

  • Can you kind of parse out what is going on in the category just sequentially?

  • Obviously a lot of talk about consumer slowdown globally, et cetera, et cetera.

  • Just curious what some of the category consumer dynamics were and how much you think the share gains really contributed to the top-line effort this quarter?

  • Thanks.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Thanks for the question, Nik.

  • As Bina closed in her summary remarks, we do believe that it is the four strategic initiatives we have, the innovation that flows from them and the quality of our integrated marketing programs that is driving the top-line growth of the Company.

  • Obviously it is a blend between market share and category growth.

  • You probably recall that about 53% of our business mix today is in the emerging markets.

  • And as we have said before, the pace of growth in our categories in those markets is high single digits and we continue to see that pace of growth sustained through the second quarter.

  • As we commented on the last call, obviously category growth in Europe is extremely modest, very low single digits, in some cases flat.

  • But as we have also said before, that is not a new phenomenon, that is built into our plans and we are actually quite pleased with the volume and organic and sequentially improving pricing in Europe and the share gains behind it.

  • And here in the US, as Bina said, we have outpaced the also modest low single digit category growth in the United States continuing to build the market share, as Bina commented, and it is a combination of all of those factors that is driving the organic growth of the Company, and it is that which gives us the confidence to say that we stand by our objective of 6% to 7% organic growth rate for the full year of 2012.

  • Operator

  • Dara Mohsenian, Morgan Stanley.

  • Dara Mohsenian - Analyst

  • Ian, I guess following up on that question, I was looking for a bit more granularity in Latin America specifically, where you saw a very strong top-line acceleration despite a slightly more difficult comparison.

  • So can you give us a rundown on, specifically in Latin America, what drove the acceleration down there and your thoughts on the balance of the year and the sustainability of that?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes, it's -- again, we were very pleased.

  • I remember there was some questioning when we talked about the first quarter on Latin America, whether we could continue at the pace, particularly given the tougher comparisons second quarter on.

  • Again as I think Bina commented, it is largely to do with our innovation stream and the consumer's reaction to that and to the marketing that is bringing those products to the consumer, whether it's Optic White, whether it's Sensitive Pro-Relief where we now lead in half of the Latin countries, whether it is that continued share progress on toothbrushes with leadership and Mexico, the next objective.

  • And consistent with our 6% to 7% organic growth for the total Company for the year, as we have said before, we see double-digit organic growth for Latin America this year as well.

  • Operator

  • Caroline Levy, CLSA.

  • Caroline Levy - Analyst

  • A couple of questions.

  • The first is are you seeing increased discounting in North America or elsewhere where a competitor has lost share and has sort of committed to getting it back, have you seen that happen?

  • And can you give us a little more detail on Venezuela, Brazil, Mexico -- just any macro or micro trends that you could highlight there?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Good morning, Caroline; by all means.

  • Again, as we said on the last call, we have seen I would say a slight moderation of competitive activity around the world, but competitors who have lost market share, we continue to see that level being intense.

  • We have seen in some categories around the world media investment reduced from some of those principle competitors and perhaps in a drive for short-term volume in selective markets a step up in promotional activity.

  • Latin America, for example, in some countries the promotional levels, as they have been, are running three times our level.

  • But we still see our market shares growing because the consumer is looking for value and it is value through innovation that builds market share.

  • And so I can't say that worldwide the discounting is lessening overall.

  • I would say there is a trend to that.

  • And I would also say from our side we are benefiting from integrated marketing programs that are actually happening in retail environments, particularly in the developed world, and those programs are brand building programs even though they are expensed between gross and net sales in trade spending.

  • Turning to Latin America, obviously we are extremely pleased with our continued progress.

  • In Brazil we see our market share pushing through 72% on toothpaste, we see the competitor flat in that 5% to 6% range, again driven by innovation.

  • In Mexico our year to date share is around 83%; our competitor is holding in between 11% and 12%.

  • There has specifically in Mexico been a step up in promotional activity.

  • We have seen competitors or a specific competitor promoting at an 80% level year to date, in some months at a 90% level and yet we are still building market share.

  • And in Venezuela, obviously we executed the pricing changes that were mandated by the government.

  • We continue to make about 85% of the volume we sell.

  • We have rationalized and simplified our offerings down to key SKUs and our market shares are doing very well.

  • I think as I said the last time, we have about a 96, 97 share on toothpaste, which is quite pleasing.

  • And that really for us for the year so far and for the year to go is what our focus is.

  • Our focus is on getting done what we have agreed to get done in 2012, which is to bring the innovation that the consumer values, to put the appropriate investment behind that innovation and to generate the funding from our productivity programs.

  • And I would say so far that is working globally and, specific to your question, in Latin America as well.

  • Operator

  • Christopher Ferrara, Merrill Lynch.

  • Christopher Ferrara - Analyst

  • Ian, can you talk a little bit about what portion of your FX profit drag hits gross profit or COGS as opposed to SG&A?

  • Because you are obviously maintaining that gross margin target.

  • I am trying to understand the maintenance of that target.

  • I mean what does that suggest for the amount of FX transaction drag that you are actually absorbing?

  • Like how much could it -- how much of it would be coming in SG&A basically?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Let me focus on the gross margin because I think that is at the heart of your question and how we are approaching that and how we are thinking about that.

  • And let me start by giving you the normal run through year on year that we provide.

  • So in the quarter of this year we start with the gross profit margin of 2011 Q2, which was 57.4%, the pricing that we have taken, and I was reading that some people felt our pricing balance would come off, but we kept that pricing in the 3%, 3.5% range.

  • Pricing added 1.4 percentage points to gross margin.

  • Our funding the growth stepped up in the second quarter from the first, as it historically always has done, to 190 basis points positive, exactly the same as we delivered last year.

  • Material prices were a negative 260 basis points, and then we have some mix divestment impact of negative 20 basis points which gets you to the 50 basis point increase.

  • Now, if you look specifically at the transaction cost impact, our gross margin, had we not had that impact, would have been higher by some 50 basis points to 60 basis points in this quarter.

  • We obviously, as we have said in our release, know now that foreign exchange is going to be a headwind of 6% to 7% for the year.

  • We have taken the pricing that we said we would.

  • You will remember from the last call there was 63% of the pricing we had planned for this year that was roll over.

  • As we closed the second quarter some 97% of all of the pricing planned for the year has been taken and is either at market or moving to market.

  • On the last call we said that number would be around 80% and obviously we have accelerated some pricing because of the specific transaction impact.

  • And we see, while transaction is still out there for the balance of the year, easier comps year on year.

  • And secondly, the commodity costs, the underlying commodity costs are showing some favorability.

  • So you've got favorability on the commodity costs, pricing well in place and transaction still as a negative headwind.

  • But all of that said, we remain comfortable with the 75 basis points to 125 basis points improvement that we have been speaking of.

  • And we plan to see a sequential improvement in gross margin over the balance of the year.

  • Operator

  • Bill Schmitz, Deutsche Bank.

  • Bill Schmitz - Analyst

  • Can you just talk about some of the trends more specifically in the categories and also your volume in Mexico?

  • Because some of the data out there says like the category is slow to like 50 basis points.

  • And then just what the sale growth was in China, both volume and reported sales?

  • And then maybe a follow-up if I can.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • We are not going to get into that level of country by country detail.

  • I think it would be fair to say, and you have the data, and as I said in an earlier remark, obviously we have seen a slowdown in the US categories, second quarter modestly slower than the first.

  • And yes, there has been some spillover into Mexico, but not to the level that you were just referencing.

  • What we feel good about is that our innovation and our integrative marketing programs are seeing us push our market shares up and therefore delivering the organic growth that we had planned to deliver.

  • Now, if you take a broader view of those emerging markets and you think about the greater China's, you think about Russia, you think about India, and you think about Brazil, we had very healthy organic growth continuing in all of those parts of the world.

  • And as I said earlier, the category growth rates in those geographies continue to grow high single digits and we see no change in that notwithstanding the chatter around slowing macros for those geographies.

  • Bill Schmitz - Analyst

  • Can I ask a follow-up just on the gross margin side of things?

  • Where does the transaction impact kind of factor into that bridge you give us every quarter?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • It's in the material prices, so it's in that 260, of that 260, 50 to 60 was transaction.

  • Operator

  • Bill Chappell, SunTrust.

  • Bill Chappell - Analyst

  • Could you just give a little more color on the mouthwash in the US launch?

  • Are you getting full distribution?

  • Will that benefit in terms of pipeline fill this quarter?

  • And then do have any goals for US market share to kind of be similar to what you have in other regions?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes I guess is the answer.

  • One of the underlying consumer benefits that we believe we have globally is this notion of regiment.

  • We are I think the only company that operates in the three largest oral care segments under the same brand name exclusively.

  • So you could combine a Colgate toothpaste with a Colgate toothbrush and a Colgate mouth rinse, a name that the consumer has enormous trust in, and a regimen that clearly we want to educate consumers and retailers want to educate consumers to use.

  • So we have good ambition in terms of bringing those three categories together.

  • I think when Bina spoke about the rollout of optic around the world she mentioned that in the new markets we are going with the regimen so it is a toothpaste, a toothbrush and the mouth rinse.

  • And in some parts of the world retail shelves and certainly retail displays take full advantage of linking the three categories.

  • So Optic of course is a single variant entry strategy thus far in the United States.

  • But we a have good ambition for it and so far the retailer reception, both from a distribution point of view and a support point of view, has been very positive.

  • And we'll keep you updated as the end market results start to come.

  • Operator

  • Alice Longley, Buckingham Research.

  • Alice Longley - Analyst

  • One little question and then a bigger on if emerging markets are 53% of sales, about how much of your profits are they at this point?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Slightly higher, not much.

  • Alice Longley - Analyst

  • Just slightly?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Slightly.

  • Alice Longley - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And I'm a little confused about your statement that there is a slight moderation in the competitive activity around the world, but some of (inaudible) our hiking promotion and -- really what I'm trying to get at is the competitor who has 11% to 12% of the toothpaste market in Mexico, is that the one that is hiking promotional activity internationally and in the US?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • When you are asked a question about the world it is very difficult to give a generic answer given that we operate in over 90 countries.

  • So I would say, as I said before, that overall we are seeing a slight abatement, less promotional activity.

  • In some specific markets, and Mexico was one, the promotional activity, which has always been high, as I think we have said consistently on calls, because there is no positioning difference, so if you don't have a marketing idea, price tends to be the approach, and that promotional activity, which had always been north of 50%, moved to 80% even though we saw media reduced in many of those markets.

  • What the future will bring in that regard we will deal with when it comes, and you can see our ability to grow and build marketshare and deliver a return in those geographies by focusing on innovation that provides value at a higher price and thereby brings margin and return.

  • And that is where we are going to stay focused.

  • Operator

  • Javier Escalante, Consumer Edge Research.

  • Javier Escalante - Analyst

  • Ian, if I understood correctly, you mostly refer to price increases that you already planned.

  • But in the second quarter, you have these two big devaluations in Brazil and Mexico.

  • So is the rebound that needs to happen in the second half in gross margin dependent upon price increases to offset the devaluations in Mexico and Brazil or this can be done basically on savings and lower commodities?

  • Thank you.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • The answer is it is a bit of everything.

  • What I was trying to say with the pricing we have taken, we accelerated pricing into the second quarter because of exactly the kind of foreign exchange transaction pressure you mentioned, but you can never react to those things quickly enough to impact the quarter.

  • Therefore, our gross margin would have been higher without that additional transaction impact, which was not originally forecast.

  • So when we look at the balance of the year, yes, there is continued benefit from the pricing actions we've taken, and I must say we feel pretty good at being able to take pricing in the 3% to 3.5% range overall and keep the volume north of 4% and being consistent with the 6% to 7% organic target that we have talked about previously.

  • It also requires us to deliver the same kind of sequential funding the growth improvements that we have done historically and we clearly have programs and confidence in those programs behind it.

  • And we benefit somewhat from a more favorable underlying commodity cost environment unrelated to the transaction.

  • So it is the combination of all of those that has us reaffirm advancing gross margin within that 75-125 basis points range.

  • Operator

  • Joe Altobello, Oppenheimer & Co.

  • Joe Altobello - Analyst

  • Just first question on Hill's.

  • It seems like the volumes really haven't turned yet, in fact this quarter seemed to get a little bit worse.

  • Is that surprising to you or were you guys expecting the push into naturals, for example, to really be more of a second-half impact?

  • And then secondly, and I apologize if you gave this, but the overhead savings in the quarter?

  • Thanks.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Let me answer the second first.

  • You will see SG&A was up by 20 basis points and that was all advertising.

  • So overheads were flat this quarter, which is a function of timing.

  • On Hill's, frankly, we would have liked to have seen less negative on volume.

  • We were pleased with the pricing and we are obviously pleased with the gross margin because that gives us an investment platform behind the innovation we have.

  • We have still not, as I said on the last call, made enough progress in penetrating the faster growing natural segment.

  • We are quite pleased with this Ideal Balance line that I had mentioned the last time, this idea of marrying the science of Hill's with the ingredients that the naturals user prefers.

  • Distribution is building, it's about 88% now.

  • Trial is building, repeat is healthfully north of 30%, which is an elevated level.

  • And as Bina said, in terms of data we can track at retail 55% of users of Ideal Balance are new to Hill's and coming from the natural segment.

  • So that is already underway.

  • As we also said on the last call, we really wouldn't see an improvement in the organic growth of Hill's until the second half of the year when we start to convert and re-launch our Science Diet business with ingredients that are more consumer friendly to those naturals consumer.

  • And that process is going to run a year to 18 months to fully complete, but we think, as we said, that it will have an effect in the second half.

  • I would comment that some 40% of the US business and that natural segment is a US phenomenon, not a global phenomenon.

  • But 40% of our US business is the Prescription Diet which is clinically proven to provide benefits to animals that have an ailment as recommended by and solved by vets.

  • And that business where we have a 70% share -- a 75% recommendation level is showing healthy growth both in the US and international.

  • So it really is about penetrating the natural segment.

  • And we think that the plans we have in place, based on the testing we have to date, will complete that job and begin the second half of the year and run through 2013.

  • Operator

  • Ian Gordon, S&P Capital IQ.

  • Ian Gordon - Analyst

  • First I have a housekeeping on the -- you gave the impact of FX to sales, but you didn't explicitly give what it was to EPS.

  • I'm just wondering how much bigger it is on EPS.

  • And then secondly, as I look ahead to the third quarter on the SG&A line, last year you were down about 70 basis points, both in advertising and non-advertising.

  • So I'm just trying to get a sense of how much of that might reverse in the third quarter and how we should think about that for the year?

  • Thanks.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Well, let's start with the foreign exchange.

  • You may remember, Ian -- which is a great name, by the way -- you may remember on the first-quarter call we talked about foreign exchange impacting the top-line by about 3% and the bottom line by about 4%.

  • As you saw in our release, we are saying that based on the spot of today the bottom-line impact for the year will be some 6% to 7%, but the sales impact will be more in the 4% to 5%, consistent with the ratios we talked about on the last call.

  • And in fact in the second quarter the foreign exchange impact on the bottom line was negative 9%.

  • And as to your second question, I would stay focused on advertising.

  • In the area of advertising you have seen year-to-date we are up, we expect to continue to be up both on an absolute and a ratio basis for the balance of the year.

  • And that was the approach or that is the approach we have taken coming into 2012 in order to drive the trial of the innovation program that we have.

  • And on the overhead side, we continue to look for opportunities to find self-funding ways of becoming more efficient.

  • And to the extent that we generate funding to be able to do more we will tell you about that at the appropriate time.

  • Operator

  • Joe Lachky, Wells Fargo.

  • Joe Lachky - Analyst

  • I've got a couple questions on Sanex.

  • I guess since it has been a year since you bought that business, it sounds like you are pretty happy with it, but how has it performed compared with your expectations?

  • And is there any I guess regret so to speak getting into Europe with the timing of the macro issues?

  • And you have also mentioned with Sanex a large amount of innovation or a strong pipeline that they had when you made the purchase.

  • And how do you plan to roll that out globally?

  • And then finally on the Sanex business, how has organic growth been trending?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Well, we don't give that category level or brand level information.

  • I will say if you look at organic growth for each of our categories, organic growth on Hill's second quarter to first is that 2% organic growth on our other categories -- personal care, which Sanex is a piece of, home care and oral care are up quarter on quarter, obviously given the overall company performance, but in the strong mid-single digits range for personal care and home care and double digit for oral care.

  • So our category performance we think is very strong.

  • We have no buyer's remorse on Sanex.

  • We continue to be thrilled and we continue to believe in Europe.

  • We think the Europeans or the Greeks would still brush their teeth in euros or drachma.

  • And the Sanex business is increasing our market shares in the important body wash and under arm categories.

  • The innovation stream we have in Europe in the countries that Sanex is in today is strong, it's an innovation stream, you may see us take two other geographies under the Sanex name, you may see us take it to other geographies under Palmolive or a Softsoap or a Protex name that we have around the world.

  • The integration is on track.

  • The transfer of manufacturing, which will build our margin is on track.

  • And obviously we would reveal country expansion plans at the appropriate time given the competitive nature of those plans.

  • No buyer's remorse.

  • Operator

  • Lauren Lieberman, Barclays.

  • Lauren Lieberman - Analyst

  • Just a follow-up on Hill's and then North America pricing.

  • So on Hill's, just with rising input costs in the agricultural complex, just any commentary on how much more pricing you think you might need through the year that may run the risk of derailing some of your plans for some volume improvement there, notwithstanding the innovation coming to market.

  • And then North America, it's a big swing on pricing sequentially and was just curious how much of that was -- was it list increases, was it changes in some of your retailer specific pricing by SKU?

  • Any kind of mix and particular changes you are making in how you are pricing sizes?

  • Because that was a surprise to me, that sort of big change in pricing sequentially in North America and then obviously giving up some volume despite the continued success of Optic White.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes, the answer on Hill's, Lauren, you may know we have talked about this before, this is one of the few Colgate businesses that we actually hedge in a very disciplined way and particularly what one is reading about in corn and soy.

  • That the -- whatever impact will be in 2012 is in our plans, either hedged or in our plans, and will not in any way derail the programs we have in place on the Hill's business.

  • And some of the formula changes that we are going through will change the profile, if you will, of ingredients in Hill's products going forward.

  • So not a derailer in 2012.

  • And North America pricing, yes, there's a little bit of a lot of things, some list, but particularly promotional planning with our Colgate business planning tool, bringing some efficiency and then, yes, focusing on particular pricing with retailers, which of course links to the promotional planning.

  • The mix, as you know, we have a dollar weighted volume, so mix is not a -- is not a component of that.

  • But it is a little bit of all of the above and, as we have said before, for the last I think it's 10 Nielsen periods our dollar weighted consumption in the US has outpaced the category.

  • Operator

  • Connie Maneaty, BMO Capital.

  • Connie Maneaty - Analyst

  • I have a question in toothpaste, how the category is getting segmented by so many different applications between Optic White and Luminous and Sensitive and Enamel and Total and I'm not sure how many other ones are -- the question is at what point do you think consumers get overwhelmed by the choices?

  • And how are you reaching them without -- how are you reaching them so that each one of these segments is successful?

  • And the final part of the question is, are you seeing an increase in per capita usage as the market becomes more segmented?

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • The answer on per cap is in the emerging markets absolutely.

  • But per cap is in the developed world really how many times a day do people brush their teeth because the penetration is quite robust.

  • In terms of choice, the consumer wants choice and if you don't give the consumer choice in today's world they will go somewhere else to get the choice.

  • Now we talk about enamel, but enamel ends up being a benefit within optic.

  • They are buying a whitening benefit with a secondary benefit on enamel.

  • You will find many, many toothpastes, including Total, that offer a primary benefit that is gingivitis protection but have a very variant that delivers a whitening secondary benefit which the consumer puts a value on.

  • I think the thing that needs to be understood in all of this is when you are bringing the new innovations you are winnowing the old, whether that is a flavor variant, whether that is a size or whether that is a benefit that was at one time interesting to the consumer, think baking soda going back.

  • So it is a living process, Connie.

  • And the way you communicate to the consumers, I think Optic is a wonderful example, it starts with the package and of course it is then surrounded by the traditional advertising mediums that we use and increasingly today what we are able to communicate at the retail level and obviously for our therapeutic offerings the clinical evidence that a professional will be relaying to their patients.

  • So the consumer is not changing their view that they continue to want choice in this category, but I think some of the threads of that choice are pretty broad -- whitening, gum health, anti-cavity, and so on.

  • And then you have secondary benefits within it.

  • And I think an important point to make is oftentimes that innovation can be seen as having value to consumers even, again, at a higher price point which of course is accretive to margin and accretive to category value -- value growth.

  • Operator

  • Ali Dibadj, Bernstein.

  • Ali Dibadj - Analyst

  • A couple questions.

  • One is just reflecting on how many times the word transactional or transactional effect of currency was discussed this time.

  • And also it really started last quarter as well.

  • That is very different than as far back as I can remember discussing with you guys about currencies where it was was kind of one to one between top-line and bottom-line.

  • It's kind of a new word in the Colgate lexicon.

  • So I'm just trying to understand why.

  • You've had historically much quicker currency movements and have been able to handle it through pricing.

  • Is it just that they're that much quicker this time?

  • Is that the consumer environment, particularly in Latin America and Mexico, you mentioned maybe a little bit tougher?

  • Is it that there is more competition that is not allowing you to take up pricing?

  • So what's different in that transaction to become a bigger piece of the story?

  • And then a separate question is going back to Hill's.

  • Clearly the compares get much easier on that business as you go forward over the next few quarters, so that should be a little bit of a relief.

  • But as you think about your attempt to sustainably fix this business, I guess two questions come to mind.

  • One is, what will success look like for the business from a growth perspective as you go forward over the next 18 months, how should we track it?

  • Because I think you guys say, and we say as well, that this is kind of big change it, this is a big thing you guys have to do in that business.

  • And what are the costs associated to that.

  • And then lastly, you were kind enough a moment ago to disaggregate the prescription business as 40% of your business.

  • So what is the growth rate of the 60% then if the other -- the prescription business is actually growing?

  • The nonprescription should be obviously by math doing a little bit worse.

  • So can you give us a little bit more color around that because that could be an interesting progression to track as you go forward.

  • So, thanks very much.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Thanks for the one question, Ali.

  • Taking them in turn, and some I won't answer, but taking them in turn -- we have never said foreign exchange is one to one.

  • And we said even on the last call that there was a difference between the top-line impact and the bottom-line impact and we said that when we set up this year when we talked about currency headwind.

  • And you are right, the reason why you can't offset the kind of significant foreign exchange swings that we had in the second quarter was the speed of the change.

  • And I said earlier we actually accelerated some pricing, but you can't just go to market on Monday morning and take your prices up with a retailer, never mind the competitor comparisons.

  • So it was always more on the bottom-line than the top-line and the reason on pricing is the speed of the change.

  • I think, we think that pricing on the year north of 3% and volume and organic or our organic growth in that 6% to 7% in this world is very good performance and that is a balanced judgment we have to make.

  • And we fund the investment behind it by getting our gross margin to that 75 to 125 increase by balancing that pricing with our funding the growth initiatives and the slightly more favorable commodity environment.

  • Now Hill's is -- yes, of course, the Science Diet business is a little bit lower than the average given that the Prescription Diet business is growing.

  • It doesn't change what the fundamental issue is.

  • The fundamental issue is breaking in in a more meaningful way to the Hill's business.

  • Success will look like growing volume and organic sales.

  • We think, as we have said, that we will see a modest improvement in organic sales in the second half of this year and that will build in 2013 as the innovation gets to the market place and the costs, given that this has been planned for some time, are fully included in our plans going forward and frankly don't get close to the number quoted in your recent note.

  • So we think we know what the solution is and the success will be a return to organic growth.

  • I think longer-term with Hill's, because we are kind of microscopically focused on the US here, if you take the long view the growth profile for Hill's is going to look attractive given our ability to open up and be successful in emerging markets as they reach the maturity to provide prepackaged pet nutrition diets to their pets.

  • And we think that long-term opportunity still is out there.

  • Operator

  • Linda Bolton-Weiser, Caris.

  • Linda Bolton-Weiser - Analyst

  • I apologize if I missed your full explanation on North America, but you did have a big sequential increase in pricing and yet a big decline in the volume growth.

  • You actually had volume decline in North America in the quarter.

  • And so it looks like you took price and your volumes got hit.

  • Am I mistaken or is there another explanation?

  • And then is that just a temporary phenomenon as that kind of works through the system?

  • Or maybe you could give a fuller explanation of that region.

  • And then secondly, I guess my question is a little philosophical on the EPS growth rate and the FX impact.

  • I mean really you get price that goes along with currency devaluations.

  • So I am just kind of curious as to why you would exclude the translation -- the FX impact from EPS growth and yet you would include the pricing that goes along with the currency devaluation.

  • So maybe you could kind of comment on that.

  • And I don't know if there is any way to quantify the pricing you are expecting in 2012; that would be kind of directly related to currency devaluation.

  • Thanks.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Let me do the foreign-exchange response first.

  • There are two separate things, we said when we set up this year that we would deliver double digit EPS growth on a currency neutral basis, that has all to do with translation, just translation.

  • And we said also that we were going to deliver an increase in our gross margin between 75 and 125 basis points.

  • To do that you have to offset the transaction impact of buying raw materials let's say in Latin America that are priced worldwide in dollars when the US dollar strengthens.

  • So in order to deliver the gross margin to deliver the local profitability you have to take the pricing to offset that cost impact and that is the way we set up the year.

  • So it is strictly translation which has nothing to do with -- nothing to do with pricing.

  • Now in North America we -- you may recall we started with Optic in the fourth quarter of last year.

  • We did not have capacity for Optic when we got the overwhelming response positively from our consumers in the US.

  • We geared up capacity and we came back and effectively re-launched that business in the first quarter of that year up against I would say the most modest quarter's volume that we had seen in North America first quarter of 2011.

  • And we got the volume response we got.

  • We have, yes, certainly balanced pricing in North America, but I stress the point from an external point of view we are seeing the consumption, the consumer purchases of our products outpacing the market rate of growth year to date and in fact for the last -- for the last 10 periods.

  • So from an organic point of view we expect to see continued positive organic growth for the -- for the balance of the year, balancing the volume with the price and continuing to build with the innovation we have including the Optic rinse talked about a little bit earlier.

  • Operator

  • Jason Gere, RBC Capital Markets.

  • Jason Gere - Analyst

  • Just one question.

  • Thinking about advertising, I know years ago you talked about I think 11% was the right way to think about it.

  • Obviously when gross margin started to contract closer to the trough it was closer to 10%, we started to see a little bit of a pickup this year.

  • So I guess the way I'm thinking about it is the back half of the year you're going to have a nice big gross margin uptick.

  • You guys have talked about advertising, but if we could think about maybe the next two years, should we think about the advertising spending still at that 11%?

  • Is that a more fluid situation?

  • So as more gross margin comes through you will reinvest a portion of it.

  • Or will we expect to see more of the gross margin savings over the next couple of years really flow through to the bottom line?

  • So, just wondering if you could provide a little bit of color on that, that would be great.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes, I -- if there was a number of which I had never thrown out there it was this 11%, which gets memorialized in tablets of stone.

  • To start with where we are today, 8% organic growth with advertising at the level we have in this quarter is, we think, an effective return on our advertising investment.

  • The advertising investment doesn't start with a ratio, we build it up from the plans on the ground.

  • So I would venture to say that when you take our general financial strategic model, what we always intend to be focused on is increasing that gross margin and that would certainly -- or that is our ambition and our goal next year and you can imagine would be next year to attempt to lower overhead on a ratio basis to sales in order to take some of that funding, as we call it, funding the growth, to increase our advertising assuming we have the breadth and depth of innovation that we believe today we have and still deliver a healthy return on the bottom line.

  • And that thinking has not changed and if the innovation flow is good I am sure our ambition will be to continue to increase our advertising behind that innovation as we move forward in time.

  • Operator

  • Jon Anderson, William Blair.

  • Jon Anderson - Analyst

  • Just one question on China, where GDP growth and I guess category growth for some is slowing.

  • I know you are not in discretionary categories per se, but are you seeing any impact in your categories in terms of consumption, trade down, et cetera?

  • Thanks.

  • Ian Cook - Chairman, President & CEO

  • No, again, as I commented earlier, through the second quarter we haven't seen a slowdown in our categories in these geographies in general and specifically in China still growing high single -- still growing high single digits.

  • Our market share there over 33% year to date I believe our principle competitor just dipped below 20, but who is looking.

  • So, thanks very much for your questions, helpful as always.

  • And again, we look forward to keeping you posted on our progress as this volatile world continues over the balance of the year.

  • And a special thank you to all of the Colgate people who get all this stuff done around the world.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • That does conclude today's presentation.

  • We thank you and again for your participation.