Civista Bancshares Inc (CIVB) 2022 Q2 法說會逐字稿

Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements with respect to the future performance and financial condition of Civista Bancshares, Inc. that involve risks and uncertainties. Various factors could cause actual results to be materially different from any future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. These factors are discussed in the company's SEC filings, which are available on the company's website.

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This call will be recorded and made available on the Civista Bancshares website at www.civb.com. At the conclusion of Mr. Shaffer's remarks, he and the Civista management team will take any questions you may have.

Now I will turn the call over to Mr. Shaffer.

Good afternoon. This is Dennis Shaffer, President and CEO of Civista Bancshares Inc., and I would like to thank you for joining us for our second quarter 2022 earnings call. I am joined today by Rich Dutton, SVP of the company and Chief Operating Officer of the bank; and Chuck Parcher, SVP of the company and Chief Lending Officer of the bank; and other members of our executive team.

This morning, we reported net income of $7.7 million or $0.53 per diluted share for the second quarter of 2022, which includes approximately $0.02 per share of expense related to our Comunibanc transaction and net income of $16.2 million or $1.10 per diluted share for the 6 months ended June 30th, 2022, which includes approximately $0.04 per share of expense related to our Comunibanc transaction. While these deal costs contributed to the decline in earnings for the quarter and year-to-date, the primary reasons for the decline were the normal timing of when we earn our tax program fee income from our first to second quarters, lower mortgage production, and restructuring charges taken in the second quarter of 2021.

We were able to sustain the strong loan demand we experienced during the first quarter. Net loans, exclusive of PPP, grew by $57.9 million during the second quarter, or at an annualized growth rate of 11.6%. While demand remains strong in most categories, commercial and industrial, non-owner occupied commercial real estate, and residential construction loans experienced the strongest growth.

On June 27th, we opened a new branch office in Gahanna, Ohio, located in the Northeast portion of Franklin County, which is part of the Columbus MSA. Earlier this year, Intel announced, they would be locating 2 new semiconductor fabrication plants in the nearby area.

We continue to be on track with our Comunibanc transaction with the legal close taking place on July 1st in the system conversion scheduled for the weekend of October 22nd. We are excited to expand our footprint into Northwest Ohio and the Toledo MSA. The process of welcoming our new shareholders, employees and customers into the Civista family is well underway.

We continue to be active in repurchasing common shares. During the quarter, we repurchased 264,860 shares at an average price of $22.86 per share. Our return on average assets was 1% for the quarter compared to 1.07% for the linked quarter, and our return on average equity was 9.86% for the quarter compared to 9.89% for the linked quarter. Year-to-date, our return on assets was 1.04%, and our return on equity was 9.87%.

As I stated, we are extremely pleased with our loan growth for the quarter. Excluding the impact of PPP loans, our loan portfolio grew at an annualized rate of 11.6%. At the end of the quarter, we only had $3.7 million of the approximate $400 million in PPP loans we originated remaining. Our strategy of originating PPP loans to our customers and those referred to us by no referral sources, have resulted in no fraud to date in the PPP loans that we made. Our net interest income increased $1.3 million or 5.8% from the linked quarter, fueled by low growth and rising interest rates. Our net interest income for the quarter and year-to-date, were comparable to the prior year, as increases in volume and rate were primarily offset by lower PPP accretion.

Our reported net interest margin was 3.43% for the quarter compared to 3.38% through the linked quarter. Like many banks, the accretion of PPP fees have had an impact on margins, and we have the added complexity of the excess cash generated by our tax program during the first and second quarters, also having a negative effect on our margin. Our reported year-to-date net interest margin was 3.40% compared to 3.41% for the prior year. Similarly, the net impact of PPP fee accretion and excess cash from our tax program, reduced our 2022 year-to-date margin by 7 basis points, while an increase our 2021 year-to-date margin by 9 basis points. Assuming interest rates continue to rise with our PPP loan process, all but concluded, and the liquidity generated by our tax program continuing to subside, we expect our asset-sensitive balance sheet to yield strong margin expansion, as we move into the third and fourth quarters.

During the quarter, noninterest income declined $2 million or 26.3% in comparison to the linked quarter, and declined $4.9 million year-over-year. The primary driver of the decrease from our linked quarter was the timing of fees from our income tax refund processing program. Consistent with prior years, income from our tax program during the first quarter was $1.9 million compared to $475,000 in the second quarter. Gains on the sale of loans declined $363,000 from the first to the second quarter, also contributing to the decline. Interchange fees increased $124,000 over our linked quarter due to increased volume. Year-to-date, noninterest income declined $4.9 million or 27.1% in comparison to the prior year. A $1.8 million gain we recognized on the sale of our Visa B shares as part of our balance sheet restructuring in the second quarter of 2021, contributed to the year-to-date decline, but the primary driver was a $3.5 million decline in gains on the sale of mortgage loans.

Second quarter gains on the sale of mortgage loans were $573,000, a decline of 38.8% from our linked quarter, and a 74.2% decline from the prior year gain, which was $2.2 million. We sold $35.5 million of mortgage loans during the second quarter of 2022 compared to $38.2 million during the linked quarter. The average premium recognized from the sale of loans declined 84 basis points from 2.45% to 1.61% compared to the linked quarter.

Wealth management revenues were consistent comparing our second quarter to the linked quarter, and wealth management revenue year-to-date 2022 increased to $2.5 million from $2.3 million in the prior year, as gains in new accounts and additions to existing accounts kept pace with declines in the overall market. While we anticipate that market pressures will continue to be a headwind for some time, we view the expansion of these services across our entire footprint, as an opportunity to diversify and grow noninterest income. Noninterest expense for the quarter of $20.4 million was comparable to our linked quarter, as increases in professional fees and other expenses were offset by declines in compensation and data processing. Noninterest expense declined $814,000 or 2% year-over-year, as the prior year balance sheet restructuring costs were somewhat offset by increases in compensation expense, software maintenance expense and nonrecurring expenses related to our Comunibanc transaction.

You will recall that during the second quarter of 2021, we incurred a $3.7 million prepayment penalty on our early termination of the FHLB long-term borrowing. Our compensation expense increased $982,000 or 4.2% over the prior year, primarily due to annual salary increases, which go into effect each year in April. Professional fees increased $779,000 or 52.7%, primarily related to $428,000 in legal and investment banking fees related to our Comunibanc transaction. We also had a $100,000 increase in fees related to our third-party call center that assist with overflow and after hour calls, the call activity -- largely the result of calls from income tax refund customers.

Total expenses related to the Comunibanc transaction, including professional fees, were $776,000 through June 30th. With the system conversion scheduled for October, we anticipate recognizing the remaining deal costs during the balance of 2022. Our efficiency ratio was 67% compared to 65.2% for the linked quarter and 66.1% year-to-date. If we had adjusted for one-time deal cost, our efficiency ratio for each of those periods would have been 66.1%, 63.7% and 64.9%, respectively.

Turning to the balance sheet. Year-to-date, our total loans have grown by $66.3 million, backing out the $39.5 million of PPP loans forgiven during the first 6 months of 2022. Our loan portfolio grew organically by $105.8 million, or at an annualized rate of 10.8%. While non-owner occupied CRE loans led the way, we had good demand in owner occupied CRE, commercial and industrial, and residential construction loans, in every market across our footprint. Along with our strong year-to-date loan production, our undrawn construction lines were at an all-time high of $164.5 million at June 30th, giving us confidence that even in the face of anticipated headwinds, we will grow our loan portfolio at a mid-single-digit rate for 2022.

On the funding side, the total deposits increased $38.8 million or 1.6% since the beginning of the year. As is typical, balances related to our income tax processing program peaked towards the end of the first quarter and returned to more normal levels throughout the remainder of the year. Noninterest bearing demand accounts continue to be a focus, making up 34% of our total deposits at June 30th, as we continue to attract the operating accounts of our business customers.

While asset quality continues to be good, we continue to monitor our hotels and lodging loans closely. At June 30th, hotel and lodging loans made up our largest segment of criticized loans, totaling $48.6 million. Most of these operators have experienced increased occupancy from leisure travel during the last 4 quarters. Despite the lingering effects of COVID on business travel, we anticipate continued leisure demand going forward will result in a further reduction in our criticized portfolio. There continue to be uncertainties associated with the economy. However, we continue to see improvement in our customers' financial positions across our footprint. While we did make a $400,000 provision during the quarter, it was attributable to growth in our loan portfolio rather than economic stress. In addition, we have realized $94,000 in net recoveries year-to-date.

The ratio of our allowance for loan losses to loans at June 30th was consistent with year-end 2021 at 1.33%, and our allowance for loan losses to nonperforming loans improved to 572.8% at June 30th, up from 496.1% at the end of 2021. We continue to be on track to adopt a new CECL allowance methodology beginning in 2023. The higher interest rate environment and the pressure it has had on our bond market, resulted in a $55.1 million decline from December 31st, 2021 to June 30th, and other comprehensive income related to our investment portfolio. As a result, we ended the quarter with a tangible common equity ratio of 7.38% compared to 9.25% at December 31st, 2021. Despite this decline, our Tier 1 capital ratio grew to 9.87% at June 30th, which is well above what is deemed well capitalized for regulatory purposes.

Civista continues to create capital through earnings, and our overall goal remains to have adequate capital to support organic growth and potential acquisitions. 2 important parts of our capital management strategy continue to be the payment of dividends and share repurchases. We continue to believe our stock is a value.

During the quarter, we repurchased 264,860 shares of common stock for $6.1 million, for an average price of $22.86 per share. Year-to-date, we have repurchased 448,199 million shares or 3% of our shares that were outstanding at December 31st, 2021. We have an authorization of approximately $12.3 million remaining in our current repurchase program. As I indicated earlier, we closed our transaction with Comunibanc and their subsidiary, the Henry County Bank on July 1st. Our employees continue to meet and work towards successfully integrating our systems later this year, and we look forward to welcoming their shareholders and customers to our Civista family, as we grow into Northwestern Ohio and the Greater Toledo MSA.

In summary, we are extremely pleased with another quarter of solid earnings, continued loan growth and solid credit quality. Despite the volatile interest rates, economic uncertainties and inflationary pressures we are all facing, we remain optimistic. The businesses and consumers across our footprint, continue to have strong balance sheets. Our loan pipelines are solid, and we are well on our way to a successful integration of the Henry County Bank into the Civista family.

Thank you for your attention this afternoon. And now we will be happy to address any questions that you may have.

(Operator Instructions) Our first question will come from Terry McEvoy with Stephens.

Maybe to start, could you just talk about deposit pricing competition within your markets? And what are your thoughts on your deposit rates and average deposit yields in the second half of the year? Where do you think those can go?

Well, I think we've started to see a few specials being offered in our markets as far as deposit pricing. But obviously, having kept up with the loan increases, we've not seen much movement in our rates. As we stated on our last call, I think, the first 100 basis point of rate increases, there's probably a little movement at all, which there was really no movement in ours through those first 100 basis points. We'll have to give a little bit back to the clients. But again, when rates were higher back in '16 and '17, our margin was much stronger than our peers during that time. I think as rates fell, we had less room to improve our margin.

So we were maybe 15 basis points or so better than our peers. But when rates were at today's level and above, we were very disciplined in our price -- in raising our deposit prices. And our margin expansion back during that time was probably 50 basis points better than our peer banks. So, we -- I would anticipate that to continue. I'll ask Rich Dutton here if he has any other further color he'd like to give around that?

Yes. Terry, I think, like Dennis said, we'll attack our significant depositors with specials -- and again, because most of our accounts are operating accounts with our businesses, they are remaining a little less deposit sensitive, rate sensitive, like Dennis said, too. I mean, we were pretty disciplined. We've not seen a ton of pressure to move rates up in our markets. And I would anticipate that, while -- yes, it will go up. I don't think we're going to be a leader in raising rates in the back end of the year. I don't know that helps or not. That's kind of what we're thinking.

And our loan-to-deposit ratio is still hovering somewhere in that 83%-84% range. We still have a lot of liquidity on our balance sheet. We were comfortable operating the bank somewhere in the high 90s. So we still feel we've got a lot of liquidity from deposits to our balance sheet.

And then maybe sticking with the topic of higher rates. I'm just wondering, have you stress test your commercial real estate portfolio in a rising rate environment? And what are your thoughts there as rates rise, particularly the non-owner occupied CRE?

Terry, it's Paul Stark. We do that frequently. We do it every time we underwrite credits as well. So, I think right now, given the relationship aspects of our borrowers, we've also got strong sponsors. So -- and not really too concerned based on what we've seen so far.

Our next question will come from Tim Switzer with KBW.

I'm on for Mike Perito. You guys just mentioned you have a lot of excess liquidity still on the balance sheet, and working on balancing that with deposit pricing, and I guess, maybe possibly some deposit run up depending on how trends go. But just given all that and rates moving up, what's your guys' strategy with that excess cash? Do you have any plans to possibly deploy it into the securities portfolio anymore? Or, I guess like, what kind of movement should we expect?

I don't think we will probably -- at least not over the next quarter do anything big like that and deploy -- make the deployment of liquidity into our securities portfolio. Our loan demand is pretty strong. I'm sure Chuck's confident a bit to talk about what we've got in the pipeline, and that's where we want to deploy it. And I think the other thing, while we've not talked about it and don't talk much about it, but we've got the Henry County, the Comunibanc deal. There they've got some liquidity on our balance sheet too. And we did maybe -- we might do some things with that going forward, but it won't be significant.

Yes, we've got to deploy it, and well, we really want to see what happens over the next couple of months with the rising rates. And we read the same articles that you do, that some of the consumers are starting to spend down their savings and things like that. We've really not seen it too much on our balance sheet. We know there's a little move, but not much yet. So I don't think we want to make that move. And we just want to give a little bit more time before we do that. But we are picking up some excess liquidity from the Comunibanc deal too.

Right. And speaking of the strong loan growth, very strong trends in the first half of the year, but still expecting mid-single-digit growth for the full year? What's driving that? Here you guys being cautious? Are you seeing a slowdown? Or is it maybe an expectation of a slowdown just given economic trends in the Fed tightening?

For -- I think we've got a relatively decent players kind of into the third quarter here. Fourth quarter, I don't have much clarity at all of what's going on from that side of it. So, we're just being -- that was our guidance from the beginning of the year, mid-single-digit growth. I'm hopeful to include that. Obviously, we're running a little over 10% now. I think 10% might be a stress to get through the whole year, but I think we're hoping to eclipse at mid-single digit.

Yes. I mean, we have a record undrawn construction via loans already booked. So those will draw up. There's $164 million as checks, and near-term, the pipelines look good. But the rising rate environment, I think will definitely slow loan demand. And as loan demand slows and there's less deals out there, I think, those deals also get very competitively bid. So, your fallout ratio and your pipelines are alone greater as well. So -- but we are, I think, cautious as we move forward because we had really great demand in the first half of the year. So we try to be realistic in our views, but we're off to a brief start for the first 6 months and the pipelines are good.

Yes, and nice part, too - this is Chuck, again -- that our large payoffs in the first half of the year were nearly $30 million more this year than they were last year, and they commensurate same time. The one thing that, I guess, would temper a little bit of the growth will be, we're seeing some crazy pricing being offered to some of our real estate clients for properties that are stabilized. A few of them decided just to sell based on the prices they're getting right now. If that continues to happen into the future, it might tend to temper our growth to touch, but we're still very optimized. The biggest issue we have right now is just trying to look out into the fourth quarter with all the economic things that's taking place and what will demand be like in the fourth quarter.

We're seeing some credit structure that is not typical out there. We've seen more 30-year amortizations on real estate. And historically, Civista and a lot of commercial banks have not gone that far on their amortization. So you are seeing a little bit of that. And we fairly -- we're pretty disciplined in our credit structure. So we want to pay this as we move forward.

And as you can tell on our margin, we've been very disciplined on the margin side as well. We're seeing some of the banks that have a ton of excess liquidity put some rates out there that we just will not match.

Our next question will come from Nick Cucharale with Piper Sandler.

I appreciate the mid-single digit loan growth guide in the commentary from the previous question. But I was hoping you could discuss your approach to adding credits given the macro uncertainty. Are you being more selective at this point in the cycle? Are there segments where you're showing more caution, or on the flip side areas of particular opportunity?

Yes, I think it's more - Nick, this is Chuck, again. I think it's more of -- looking at it on a case-by-case basis, obviously, we're not going to go run out and do a lot of hotel loans or restaurants, et cetera. The stuff that stroll through the COVID time period -- this is bouncing back. But really, we kind of take it on a case-by-case basis, and probably, as most importantly, a sponsor-by-sponsor basis. We're looking at the people that are back in the deals and the strength that they have. So, we don't have any stop signs up to tell our guys, hey, don't go look at that industry. But we're -- I would tell you we're underwriting as hard as we ever have.

Well -- this is Paul. Being selective also in locations. So certain parts of Cleveland are much better than other parts of Cleveland. So that just reiterates what you said from a place case-by-case basis. Let's just talk about where demand is.

And obviously, we're seeing a tremendous amount of growth in the Columbus area (inaudible). We do a lot of development money down there, and that's continued to be strong, especially with [Intel] moving in here in the next couple of years.

Right. And then the overall expense base is going to be impacted by the deal closing. But can you help us think about the core expense run rate in future periods?

This is Rich. I think last time we were given -- we kind of guided in the 20,500- or $20,500,000 in the quarter. We came in a little under that this time, but I still think looking forward, that's what we're guiding to, ex deal costs.

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn it over to Mr. Shaffer for any closing remarks.

Well, I'm just going to close, and I just want to thank everyone for joining, and those that participated in today's call. Again, we're very pleased with our second quarter results. We're pleased with the loan growth that we had, and the pipelines that we have in place moving forward. So, we look forward to talking to you all again in a few months to share our third quarter results. So thank you very much.

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