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  • Operator

  • Good day, and welcome to the CBIZ Third Quarter 2021 Results Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note this event is being recorded.

  • I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Lori Novickis. Please go ahead.

  • Lori Novickis

  • Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the CBIZ Third Quarter and 9-Month 2021 Results Conference Call. In connection with this call, today's press release and quarterly presentation have been posted to the Investor Relations page of our website, cbiz.com. As a reminder, this call is being webcast and a link to the live webcast as well as an archived replay and transcript can also be found on our website.

  • Before we begin our presentation, we would like to remind you that during the call, management may discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these measures can be found in the financial tables of today's press release and in the investor presentation on our website.

  • Today's conference call may also include forward-looking statements, including statements regarding our business, financial condition, results of operations, cash flows, strategies and prospects. Forward-looking statements represent only estimates on the date of this conference call and are not intended to give any assurance as to actual future results. Because forward-looking statements relate to matters that have not yet occurred, these statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties. Many factors could cause future results to differ materially, and CBIZ assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements. A more detailed description of such factors can be found in the filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

  • Joining us for today's call are Jerry Grisko, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Ware Grove, Chief Financial Officer.

  • I will now turn the call over to Jerry for his opening remarks. Jerry?

  • Jerome P. Grisko - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Lori, and good morning, everyone. With the release of our third quarter results, I am extremely proud of our performance to date. Our results in the third quarter and throughout this year continue to demonstrate the strength and resilience of our business. We started this year with a good deal of optimism, especially given the performance of the business since the onset of the pandemic, the steadily increase in demand for our services that were experienced through the second half of last year and the level of confidence about the business climate that we're hearing from many of our clients. Even with our optimistic outlook, our performance to date has exceeded our expectations.

  • While we oftentimes experienced some seasonal slowness in the third quarter, that has not been the case this year. The strong demand for our core essential services that we experienced through the first half of this year has continued through the third quarter, and our results have been bolstered by very strong performance from many of our more project-oriented advisory services that are often viewed by our clients as being more discretionary. And perhaps most encouraging, the strong performance reflected in our year-to-date results is coming from both of our major practice groups and across nearly all major service lines of our business.

  • Within our financial services group, we continue to experience strong performance from our core accounting, tax and advisory businesses. And in addition, during the third quarter, we saw a steady demand for our tax consulting services and robust demand across the board for our advisory services. These results reflect the strength of our current business climate and the overall confidence and optimism of our clients. As our clients take steps to capitalize on opportunities to accelerate growth in the future, these actions should translate into additional project-based advisory work for us.

  • Within our government health care consulting business, we are experiencing a rate of growth in the mid-single digits. While this growth is consistent with our experience since the onset of the pandemic, we would expect to see accelerated growth in the months ahead as more states fully reopen and some delayed work resumes. A complementary acquisition that provides actuarial services that we made this past summer is creating additional opportunities for us to bring even greater value to our government clients in the administration of complex health care programs.

  • Now turning to our benefits and insurance group. We are also experiencing the continuation of the strong performance that we saw for the first half of the year. We continue to see steady demand for our core employee benefits, property and casualty and retirement plan advisory businesses. As we've discussed on prior calls, we've made substantial investments over the past several years to accelerate organic growth within our employee benefits business by adding to the number of producers. We are very pleased with the results that we are seeing in this area and the impact of our efforts are evidenced in our results today.

  • Within these results, I also want to emphasize the importance of client retention. We continue to see retention rates of over 90% with our employee benefits business and for many of our other businesses within our benefits and insurance group. These levels of client retention speak to the value that our clients receive from our team and our commitment to bring them solutions that are unmatched in our industries.

  • Within our property and casualty business, we continue to see steady demand and production for both the commercial and program components of the business. We've described in the past earnings call how some industries like hospitality, lodging and adventure sports were disproportionately impacted during the pandemic. We are seeing the return of these businesses. And while some are not yet back to pre-pandemic levels, the trend is positive. The strength of the market is also providing additional lift to our retirement investment services business and an increase in demand for more project-based work, such as our executive recruitment and our compensation consulting services.

  • Our payroll business is the one area where we continue to experience some softness. As we've mentioned on previous calls, this business serves a larger number of smaller employers that continue to be disproportionately impacted by current business conditions, including labor shortages. Overall, we couldn't be more pleased with our year-to-date results and the performance of our business.

  • I will remind you that during our last earnings call, we raised our full year revenue guidance. Today, we are pleased to be in a position to raise our revenue guidance and our adjusted earnings per share guidance for the remainder of 2021 and where we'll walk through what we expect in his comments.

  • With that, I will turn it over to Ware.

  • Ware H. Grove - Senior VP & CFO

  • Thank you, Jerry, and good morning, everyone. Our results for the third quarter and for the 9 months ended September 30 continued to be very strong. I want to take a few minutes to talk about the highlights. With revenue up by 18.6% in the third quarter and up by 14.5% for the 9 months, demand for our core services continues to be stable and strong. Same unit revenue for the third quarter grew by 8.3% compared with last year. And for the 9 months, same unit revenue grew by 7.3% compared with last year.

  • We are seeing growth in both our financial services group as well as the benefits and insurance group. In the third quarter, total revenue in the financial services group grew by 20.4%. And for the 9 months, revenue grew by 16.0%. Same unit revenue in the financial services group was up by 9.2% in the third quarter. And for the 9 months, same unit revenue was up by 8.7%. We are seeing growth across all major service lines, with particularly strong growth within our advisory business services.

  • Within our benefits and insurance group, total revenue grew by 16.1% in the third quarter. And for the 9 months, total revenue grew by 12.4%. Same unit revenue within benefits and insurance grew by 6.6% in the third quarter. And for the 9 months, same unit revenue grew by 4.4%. With the exception of our payroll services where we are experiencing some slight softness, we are seeing growth in all service lines. The investment in producers that has been underway for some time now is continuing to show positive results.

  • The acquisitions we made last year and through the first 9 months this year are performing well. These newly acquired operations contributed 10.3% to total revenue growth in the third quarter and contributed 7.3% to total revenue growth for the 9 months. As we presented second quarter earnings earlier this year, we made an adjustment to eliminate the impact of the $30.5 million nonrecurring UPMC settlement that was announced on June 30, plus an adjustment to eliminate the impact of the $6.4 million nonrecurring gain on sale from a divestiture that occurred in the second quarter. As required, GAAP numbers are reported in our financial statements and the earnings release includes a reconciliation schedule from GAAP numbers to the adjusted numbers.

  • On an adjusted basis, for the 9 months, adjusted earnings per share was $1.84 compared with $1.41 a year earlier. This is up 30.5%. In the third quarter, earnings per share was $0.41 compared with $0.36 a year ago. In line with our comments during the second quarter call earlier this year, as we began to restore discretionary expenses such as marketing, travel or as other health care benefit costs began to normalize from abnormally low COVID influence levels from a year ago, we cautioned that expense headwinds would impact margin in the second half this year. As a result, margin on income before tax declined in the third quarter from 11.4% a year ago to 10.3% this year. This is not a reflection on the health of the business. This is simply a reflection of the year-over-year pandemic influence impact on these costs, which reflect abnormally low levels a year ago.

  • On an adjusted basis, eliminating the nonrecurring items I mentioned, we are very pleased that margin on income before tax for the 9 months has improved by 120 basis points, up to 15.2% versus 14.0% a year ago. To date this year, we have closed 5 acquisition transactions that will contribute approximately $72 million of annualized revenue. Through September 30, we have used $74.8 million for acquisition purposes, including earn-out payments on acquisitions closed in prior years. Future earn-out payments are estimated at approximately $6.6 million for the balance of this year, $26.7 million in 2022, $19.3 million in 2023, $22.9 million in 2024 and approximately $6 million in 2025.

  • Our continuing priority is to utilize capital to enhance growth through strategic acquisitions, and we continue to have a very active pipeline of potential acquisitions. With our strong cash flow, we also have the flexibility to repurchase shares. Through September 30, we utilized approximately $85 million to repurchase 2.7 million shares. And since that time, through October 26, we have repurchased an additional 258,000 shares. As a result of these share repurchases, we expect full year share count within a range of 53.5 million to 54 million shares.

  • With strong revenue growth and expansion of margin, cash flow has continued to be strong. At September 30, debt outstanding on our unsecured $400 million credit line was $190.2 million with $201.6 million of unused capacity. Leverage under the credit facility was 1.2x adjusted EBITDA at September 30. As a reflection of cash flow, adjusted EBITDA for the 9 months this year was $153.5 million, up 21% from $126.9 million a year ago. Focused primarily on facility and office improvements, capital spending through September 30 was $6.5 million, with $3.2 million spent in the third quarter. Full year spending may come in between $8 million to $10 million.

  • Day sales outstanding on receivables was 88 days at September 30, and this continues to reflect improvements that were gained over the past 12 to 18 months. Bad debt expense through September 30 this year was approximately 10 basis points of revenue compared with 41 basis points a year ago. Our effective tax rate for 9 months was approximately 24.5%. There are a number of unpredictable factors that can impact the tax rate either up or down, but we expect the effective rate for the full year within a range of 24% to 24.5%.

  • As we look at the remainder of the year and update guidance on our full year outlook and as you begin to compare expectations to last year, be aware of the year-over-year anomalies to the items that I mentioned earlier. Headwinds with higher expense levels compared to last year on the same items we experienced in the third quarter, such as health care and benefits, travel and marketing, are expected to persist for the remainder of the year. In addition, consider that we closed several significant business acquisitions in the financial services space in midyear this year. These operations will have a very positive full year impact on both revenue growth and contribution to earnings, and this will provide a significant tailwind for us in 2022. However, recognizing the typical seasonality of these businesses with higher first half revenue and profitability, we are projecting a slight operating loss in these newly acquired operations in the fourth quarter this year.

  • One other nonoperating item to point out is the impact of the timing of vacation expense accruals. In a normal year, vacation expense accruals are relieved throughout the year. Last year, as we work with clients to maintain high levels of service throughout the pandemic conditions, a higher portion of vacation time was delayed into the fourth quarter. As a result, there was a larger-than-normal fourth quarter favorable adjustment last year as vacation expense accrual was relieved. This year, vacation accruals have followed a more normal pattern, so there is no significant favorable adjustment projected in the fourth quarter. Of course, there is no full year impact, and this is purely a COVID influenced accounting anomaly that will be unique to the comparison of fourth quarter this year compared to fourth quarter a year ago.

  • With revenue up 14.5% and adjusted earnings per share up 30.5%, the health of our business is very strong. As we consider the unique items described above that are projected to impact the balance of the year-over-year comparisons, our expectations for the full year are as follows: Total revenue growth in 2021 is expected within a range of 12% to 15% over 2020. Adjusted earnings per share growth is expected within a range of 20% to 24% over the $1.42 earnings per share recorded in 2020. We expect a full year weighted average share count within a range of 53.5 million to 54 million shares. And unpredictable factors can impact the tax rate either up or down, but we expect a full year effective tax rate within a range of 24% to 24.5%.

  • Again, we are extremely pleased with the performance of the business this year. Despite the several headwinds I described that impact the second half comparisons this year, the business is very healthy, and there are considerable growth opportunities as we look ahead.

  • So with these comments, let me conclude and I'll turn it back over to Jerry.

  • Jerome P. Grisko - President, CEO & Director

  • Thank you, Ware. I'd like to touch on our M&A activity before we turn it over for Q&A. As I discussed last quarter, we started this year with the strongest M&A pipeline that we've seen in our recent history. The annualized revenue contribution from the 5 transactions that we've already closed this year will provide nice momentum going into 2022. In addition, we continue to have a very strong pipeline, including some larger deals, and there's still opportunity for us to close 1 or more of these transactions before year-end.

  • While we are always looking ahead, I'd like to take a moment to talk about the most recent group to join our team. In early September, we completed the acquisition of Shea Labagh Dobberstein, an accounting, tax and advisory services firm based in San Francisco, Bay Area. SLD serves privately held businesses, individuals and nonprofit organizations across the West Coast and has offices in San Francisco, San Mateo and Walnut Creek, California. This acquisition is part of our long-term growth strategy on the West Coast. SLD complements our existing geographic footprint and increases the visibility of our brand while adding valuable capacity and scale in this growing market.

  • Moreover, we always seek to find partners that share our commitment to client service and demonstrate a strong cultural fit and alignment on core values. SLD checked all of these boxes and more, and we look forward to working together to bring even greater value to our teams, our clients and to accelerate growth.

  • With this, I will turn it over for Q&A.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) The first question will come from Chris Moore with CJS Securities.

  • Christopher Paul Moore - Senior Research Analyst

  • So same-store growth for the 9 months 7.3%, financial services up 8.7%, B&I up 0.4%. So do you expect the relative contribution to same-store growth to become more balanced over the next few years or financial services likely to be -- continue to be the key driver there?

  • Jerome P. Grisko - President, CEO & Director

  • So Chris, this is Jerry here today. What I would say is they're both benefiting. Both sides of our business are benefiting from a very favorable business climate for small middle market businesses generally. And that's really what we're experiencing today. As to the rate of growth between those 2 organizations, I wouldn't say that we would expect one to be stronger than the other, we would expect for both of them to continue to be reasonably strong, of course subject to the business environment that they're facing. The growth is coming in a couple of different areas. Part of the reason that the growth in financial services is a little stronger year-to-date and through the third quarter is really as a result of the extraordinary amount of activity that we're seeing in our advisory practice. And if that continues, largely driven by transactions and favorable outlook of our clients, we would continue to see stronger growth. But it's hard to predict those things.

  • Christopher Paul Moore - Senior Research Analyst

  • Got it. I appreciate that. So obviously, lower COVID expenses in 2020 kind of impacts the comparison. We did a good job talking about the catch-up in the second half of 2021. And well, I recognize you're not providing 22 guidance. Still trying to understand the adjusted EPS range of $1 70, $1.76 this year. What should we be considering for 2022 versus just the normal growth of the following year? Is there still a meaningful amount of catch up that's going to happen in '22 on the expense side?

  • Ware H. Grove - Senior VP & CFO

  • Chris, this is kind of a -- and I think you nailed it. It's a bit of a complicated analysis when you look at 2020 versus 2021 and then flip to 2022. We had lower first half expenses this year, but they're normalizing in the second half. So yet again in '22, you should see a year-over-year comparison to some of these expenses that should be slightly higher than the full year run rate this year, okay?

  • Having said all that, the lessons learned for us as we've transitioned more to a virtual service model, the travel and entertainment component will probably settle in. Historically, that's been about 2.5% of revenue, and we think it's going to settle in closer to 1.5% of revenue. And that's a sustainable, I think, long-term beneficial trend. The other expenses of marketing will probably stabilize at historic rates. And of course, health care and benefits will probably stabilize at historic rates as well.

  • Christopher Paul Moore - Senior Research Analyst

  • That's very helpful. And last one for me. Just in terms of kind of bigger picture, how do you view the growth prospects of recent acquisitions versus the core business? I mean, for example, you got $72 million full year revenue acquired in 2021 given cross-selling and other opportunities. Is it reasonable to think that revenue kind of grows more quickly than core revenue? I guess the real question is trying to understand if the kind of relatively high level of acquisitions in '20 and '21, create a little bit of potential, I don't know, revenue leverage for a lack of a better term?

  • Jerome P. Grisko - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes, Chris, it's Jerry. It's -- as you know, it's hard to predict, right? Our longer-term projection for that is that we will continue to grow in the 8% to 10% range and that about half of that will come in the form of organic growth and about half will come acquired. We were in those ranges historically. But in any given year, it's difficult to predict how much of that comes from organic versus acquired. As I've mentioned throughout this year and really the end of last year, we're really encouraged by the size of our pipeline and the size of the transactions that are in our pipeline, and that could lead to acquired revenue being at the higher end of those ranges in any given period of time, but it's very, very difficult to predict.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our next question will come from Marc Riddick with Sidoti & Company.

  • Marc Frye Riddick - Business and Consumer Services Analyst

  • So I wondered if you could talk a little bit about -- first of all, I want to thank you for the -- all the commentary and everything they can from the Investor Day event, which was really great. I wanted to ask a little bit about what you're looking at with the acquisition pipeline. And maybe if there's a way to sort of compare what you're seeing today and the opportunity that you're seeing today versus maybe historically, because you've always been quite active in the acquisition marketplace was. Is there a way to sort of compare the -- compare and contrast maybe what that environment is like today versus maybe some historical precedents?

  • Jerome P. Grisko - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes, Marc, this is Jerry. What I would say is the pipeline today compared to prior to COVID is fuller, and we would attribute that to a couple of things. First of all, certainly within the accounting and tax side, that environment is changing somewhat in that over time, the firm's -- traditional accounting firms are recognizing that it's important for them to offer a breadth and depth of services and expertise that are going to require some investments back into the business, particularly on the advisory side. We've been making those investments for several years. Others are now seeing the importance of doing that. So their decision is, do they make those investments themselves? Or do they join a firm like ours, who's committed to making those investments and have already begun that process? So our story is resonating very well with many of the firms on the accounting space.

  • The other thing that the pandemic kind of shine the light on is the uniqueness just of CBIZ. And it's the strength of our balance sheet. It's the strength of our financials that allowed us, I think, to weather that storm in different ways and in many ways better than many of the other firms. And not the least of which is how we supported our team members and kept our staff throughout that period of time. And so they understand that the value that, that would bring to them going forward. And lastly is just kind of the long-standing steady performance of our business and our culture and the values that we have, all of which resonate with those firms. And so as a result of getting out, telling that story more we've had a very receptive audience, and that's led to a much fuller pipeline today than we've seen in many years prior to this.

  • On the other side of the business, I don't think the landscape has changed much. That's the benefits on insurance side. There remain opportunities certainly on the payroll side, certainly on the retirement plan services side, and some opportunities as well within benefits and insurance and property and casualty, although that's a very competitive landscape, has been, is, will continue to be, given all the private equity activity in that space. So that's really what's leading to the pipeline that we have today.

  • Marc Frye Riddick - Business and Consumer Services Analyst

  • Okay. Then I was wondering if you could switch gears a little bit. I wanted to go back to -- in your prepared remarks, making a mention on the retention being as high as it is or about 90% or so, I believe, is what was stated. And I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about what you're seeing there in sort of post pandemic activity wise, if you're getting a sense of how that's creating cross-selling opportunities, maybe are you getting a sense that some of those folks that have may be worked with you in one area are now expanding. How should we think about the level of -- that level of retention and how clients are seeing you coming out of the pandemic?

  • Jerome P. Grisko - President, CEO & Director

  • Yes. Thanks, Marc. The question really goes to 2 things. It goes to the retention of the clients we have and our ability to track new clients. And what we learned through the pandemic is that we have, I think, a unique value proposition to our clients and through prospects that allow us to do both. So I think our clients, we were uniquely positioned to be able to help them understand some of the challenges that they were facing and some of the opportunities in front of them as a result of the breadth of our services and the depth of our expertise, which is really unmatched, I think, in our industries. And so we were able to bring them solutions, thought processes, analysis that brought great value to those clients.

  • Likewise, when many of others who aren't clients, prospects of ours were searching for solutions, we were able to reach those clients or those prospects through our thought leadership, through our webinars, and in many ways through digital channels that we had previously not really explored as much, but we had great success really beginning in the early stages the pandemic. We continue to have great success in our in our digital outreach to prospects into the market, and that also is allowing us to -- helping to fuel growth for us. So not only is it a retention tool, but it's also a growth opportunity for us.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) This concludes our question-and-answer Session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jerry Grisko for any closing remarks.

  • Jerome P. Grisko - President, CEO & Director

  • Okay. Thank you. This month marks an important milestone for CBIZ as we celebrate our 25th anniversary. Over the last 25 years, CBIZ has become one of the leading providers of financial, insurance and advisory services to our clients and other businesses across the country. We're now a team of over 5,000 professionals with a network of over 100 offices in 31 states. For those of you who joined us during our Investor -- Virtual Investor Day presentation last month, we featured a brief video to highlight the history of how the company was founded and how we've evolved over time. If you haven't had an opportunity to view this presentation, you'll find it in the Investor Relations section of our website, cbiz.com, and I encourage you to take a moment to learn more about how we got here and our plans for the future.

  • I want to close today, as we always do by thanking our analysts and our investors for your continued support. And finally, our performance this year and the results that we continue to achieve are only possible because of our exceptional team. When I reflect on the past 18 months from the start of the pandemic and the changes that we've all adapted to, I'm inspired by how our team members continue to rise to the challenge. The growth that we've outlined today is a product of their tireless dedication and commitment to our clients and to each other. I'm extremely proud of what we've accomplished together, and I want to express our gratitude to our team. Thank you, and enjoy your day.

  • Operator

  • The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.