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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for standing by. Welcome to the CalAmp fiscal 2009 second quarter conference call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today on Tuesday, October 7, 2008. I'll now turn the conference over to Mr. Lasse Glassen of the Financial Relations Board. Please go ahead, sir.

  • - IR

  • Thank you, good afternoon everybody. Welcome to CalAmp's fiscal 2009 second quarter earnings call. With us today are CalAmp's President and CEO, Rick Gold and the company's Chief Financial Officer Rick Vitelle.

  • Before I turn the call over to Management, please remember that our prepared remarks and responses to questions may contain forward-looking statements. Words such as may, will, expects, believes, estimates, could , and variations of these words and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from those implied by such forward-looking statements made today due to risks and uncertainties including but not limited to fluctuations in market demand for CalAmp's products and services, general and industry economic conditions, increased competition, continued pricing pressure in the DBS market, supplier constraints and manufacturing yields, the timing and market acceptance of new product introductions and approvals, new technologies, the risks that the ultimate costs of resolving a product performance issue with one of the company's key DBS customers may exceed the amount of reserves established for that purpose, the length and extent of the US market downturn stemming from the recent tightening of credit Markets that may impact the company's business and that of its customers and which may con strain the company's ability to refinance its bank term loan, and other risks and uncertainties that are described under the heading " Risk Factors" in the company's fiscal 2008 Annual Report on Form 10-K as filed with the SEC on May 15, 2008.

  • Any projections as to the company's future financial performance represent Managements estimates as of today, October 7, 2008. Management assumes no obligation to update these projections in the future due to changing market conditions or otherwise. With that it's now my pleasure to turn the call over to CalAmp's President and Chef Executive Officer, Rick Gold.

  • - President, CEO

  • Thank you, Lasse. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today to discuss CalAmp's fiscal 2009 second quarter results. I'll begin with comments on the financial and operational highlights from this past quarter and will then provide an update on several of our key business initiatives. Rick Vitelle will then discuss additional details about our financial results, balance sheet, working capital management , and cash flow. I'll wrap up with our revenue and earnings guidance for the third quarter of fiscal 2009 along with some concluding remarks. This will be followed by a question and answer session.

  • In looking at our second quarter financial highlights and overview, total revenue for the second quarter was $23.3 million, slightly lower than the revenue guidance range of 24 to $28 million that we provided last quarter. Total revenue in the second quarter fell short of our projections primarily due to lower than expected shipments of Satellite products, which generated revenues of $3.2 million in the quarter. Wireless DataCom revenues of $20.1 million were in line with our expectations and accounted for 86% of our consolidated revenue in the latest quarter. Results of operations included a GAAP loss from continuing operations of $1.5 million or $0.06 per diluted share, which was in line with the $0.04 to $0.08 loss we provided as guidance last quarter. Excluding the amortization of intangible assets and stock based compensation expense, our adjusted basis for non-GAAP loss from continuing operations was $452,000 or $0.02 per diluted share. This was also in line with our guidance range of breakeven to a loss of $0.04 per share. I refer you to our second quarter earnings press release issued earlier today for a detailed reconciliation of the GAAP basis loss from continuing operations to adjusted basis loss from continuing operations.

  • We continue to make progress toward our goal of rebuilding our competitive position in the DBS market. As previously reported, Satellite product shipments to our historically largest customer resumed in small quantities at the end of the first quarter. Sales to this quarter remain modest throughout much of the second quarter, with volume shipments starting to ramp towards the end of the quarter. We expect revenue to this customer to be materially higher in the second half of fiscal 2009, as we continue to ramp up our production lines. We also saw lower second quarter Satellite product revenue as the result of orders from another key DBS customer being pushed into the third quarter. Suffice it to say, our business with our historically largest customer is back and ramping. We're off to a good start in the third quarter and we look for our Satellite products to contribute meaningfully to our overall revenues going forward. While we've made steady progress in getting this business back on track over the last several quarters, we're not done. Our longer term goal is to return the Satellite business to profitability, which will require a revenue run rate of approximately $15 million per quarter which is our target by the second half of fiscal year 2010 as we discussed in last quarter's call.

  • Now let's move on to an update of our Wireless DataCom business, which provides communication systems, products and services for application in public safety, mobile Resource Management, or MRM, and industrial monitoring and controls. During the second quarter, the Wireless DataCom business generated revenues of $20.1 million, which is a 12% decrease on a year-over-year basis and essentially flat on a sequential quarter basis. This year-over-year decrease was driven primarily by reduced sales to a key wireless OEM customer and lower Aircept revenues in the current quarter, partially offset by strong growth in our MRM product lines.

  • While Wireless DataCom revenues were flat on a sequential quarter basis, it should be noted fiscal 2009 first quarter revenues included $1.5 million from the sale of non-strategic patents to a large multi-national electronics Company as previously discussed. Excluding this patent sale, the Wireless DataCom business experienced top line growth in the second quarter of more than 7% compared to the first quarter. Within our Wireless DataCom business, our MRM products are continuing to perform very well in the marketplace. During the second quarter, we had record MRM shipments and have seen nearly 50% growth in this business unit for the first half of fiscal 2009 compared to the first half of fiscal 2008. This growth has been driven by customer acceptance of several products that were launched over the last year that are targeted for applications in the vehicle tracking, fleet management, high value asset tracking, and public transit markets. And as fuel costs increase, enterprises that run fleets and have other mobile assets are finding our MRM products and services extremely valuable because our applications enable them to operate more efficiently and cost effectively.

  • Moving on to our Aircept business unit, revenues in the second quarter were down on both year-over-year and sequential quarter basis. The decline is attributable to the adverse effects of the general economic conditions on used car sales, the contraction of capital for subprime auto financing resulting from the ongoing turmoil in the credit markets and the loss of airtime revenue from customers that use tracking units on analog networks that were shut off after the expiration of the analog sunset date earlier this calendar year. Despite all of this, the long term prospects for Aircept are encouraging. Key growth initiatives to launch services into attractive new consumer verticals are under way with partners that have strong positions in the markets we are pursuing. Earlier this week, we announced organizational changes we believe will help us execute these growth initiatives. Mike Zachan has joined our leadership team as the new Vice President and General Manager. Mike's background and experience are well aligned with the new Aircept applications and partners. We have every expectation that we will be successful in profitably growing this business.

  • In addition I'm also pleased with our IP enforcement and licensing campaign. Last week we announced the patent license agreement with Trackn, Inc. that resulted from our patent infringement suit. We now have four licensing partners using two of our patents related to a vehicle location system that enables auto dealers and finance companies to locate and repossess vehicles upon a change in loan status. Going forward we will continue to aggressively enforce and capture value from our Aircept patent portfolio. We're making progress on the key strategic initiatives for our Wireless DataCom business that I shared with you on prior calls. In particular, I'm pleased with ongoing efforts to strengthen our sales and distribution channels. We're excited that Arcadian networks use our data radio wireless equipment as part of its private license wireless communications network. This agreement provides us with a strong distribution partner for our network equipment. Over its private license wireless frequency, Arcadian supplies its customers in the utility and energy sectors with turnkey mobile data and voice communication solutions. We believe the partnering with Arcadian will provide us with valuable new growth opportunity.

  • In addition to more effectively pursue smaller opportunities in our industrial monitoring and controls business unit, we've established an indirect sales channel that comprises a network of 16 regional distributors and we are working to bring additional partners on Board. With the challenging outlook and government budgets to fund future projects, we're seeing market decrease in requests from proposal activities from city and county governments for public safety mobile voice and data applications. That said, we've been able to inject our sales pipeline with several large opportunities with utilities, oil and gas, and international customers. As an example, we are currently in negotiations with a leading international mining company to build a mobile data communications network for a private railway system that hauls ore from remote mining locations.

  • And finally, in our efforts to penetrate other new and adjacent vertical Markets we're executing several initiative s we believe will provide the foundation for significant growth with a particular focus on end-users and the utility sector. Last month, we announced the introduction of our WiMetry next generation cellular networking platform for the automatic meter reading and advanced metering infrastructure. With a suite of smart grid applications, we think this platform has tremendous growth potential as utility companies look to upgrade their infrastructure and improve operating efficiency with state-of-the-art technology.

  • Overall, we continue to be pleased with the progress and performance of our Wireless DataCom business. The critical mass we've developed along with our broad technology platforms and focus on middle market customers gives us a competitive advantage that most other players in our markets cannot offer. Despite the difficult macroeconomic, environment overall our margins are strong and we believe we're gaining market share in several of our key verticals. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Rick Vitelle, our Chief Financial Officer, for a closer look at the second quarter financial

  • - CFO

  • Thank you, Rick. I will provide a summary of our gross profit performance, working capital management and cash flow results for the fiscal 2009 second quarter. Consolidated gross profit for the fiscal 2009 second quarter was $7.5 million or 32% of revenues compared to gross profit of $6.3 million or 19.3% of revenues for the same period last year. The increase in consolidated gross profit was primarily attributable to a $1.5 million provision recorded in the second quarter of last year for product warranty and other costs associated with the product performance issue involving Satellite products supplied to one of our key DBS customers. The second quarter consolidated gross profit margin of 32% was higher than our historical quarterly gross profit margin due primarily to the continuing shift in product mix. In the second quarter of last year, Wireless DataCom products, which generate higher gross margins than the Satellite business, represented approximately 70% of total revenue while in the latest quarter, Wireless DataCom accounted for more than 86% of total revenue.

  • Now, taking a look at gross profit performance by reporting segment, gross profit for Satellite products was negative $81,000 in the latest quarter, compared to negative gross profit of $1.8 million in the second quarter of last year. The improvement in the Satellite products gross profit in the latest quarter was due mainly to the aforementioned $1.5 million provision recorded in the second quarter of last year. Despite this improvement, the gross margin for Satellite products remains slightly negative. This is due primarily to the low level of sales that has resulted in lower manufacturing overhead absorption rates which adversely affects the gross margin.

  • Wireless DataCom gross profit was $7.5 million in the latest quarter, or 37.5% of Wireless DataCom revenue. This compares to gross profit of $8.2 million or 35.7% of revenue in the same period last year. The lower gross margin dollars in the most recent quarter was due primarily to lower Wireless DataCom revenue in the latest period. The year-over-year improvement in gross margin percentage was primarily attributable to a significant increase in the gross margin of Mobile Resource Management or MRM products. I would also like to point out that our income statement for the latest quarter includes a pre-tax gain of $716,000 related to the reversal of a collectability reserve for its specific contract receivable as a result of a settlement agreement and payment plan entered into with this customer. This was recorded as a reduction of selling expense.

  • Moving on to the balance sheet, our total inventory at the end of the second quarter was $24 million, representing annualized inventory turns of approximately 2.6 times. This compares to inventory turns of approximately three times in the prior quarter. We expect the annualized inventory turns to increase over the next several quarters as we ship Satellite material that's been held for quite some time in our inventory. The second quarter accounts receivable balance of $16.6 million was up slightly from $16 million at the end of the first quarter, and represents a 65 day average collection period. Our primary sources of liquidity are our cash and cash equivalents that amounted to $4.7 million at the end of the second quarter, down from $7.2 million at the end of the prior quarter.

  • Net cash used by operating activities during the second quarter was $1.1 million. For the first half of fiscal 2009, net cash generated by operating activities was $700,000. Total debt at the end of the second quarter amounted to $31 million, comprised of $26 million of bank debt and a $5 million non-interest bearing subordinated note payable to a key DBS customer. During the second quarter, the bank debt was reduced by a little more than $1 million. In the first half of fiscal 2009 bank debt has been reduced by $1.5 million. Terms of the $5 million subordinated note call for the note to be paid down at a rate of $5 per DBS unit purchased by this customer after the date of the settlement agreement. Product shipments resumed to this customer at the very end of the first quarter and again began ramping up in the second quarter; however because of the time lag between the shipments of units and payments on the note, we did not make any payment on the note during the quarter, and the principal balance remained at $5 million as of the end of the second quarter. We expect to start paying down the note beginning in the fiscal third quarter and to pay it in full by August 31, 2009.

  • Our bank credit agreement has a maturity date of June 30, 2009. We recently requested an extension of the maturity date and are currently in discussions with our banks on this matter. Because we did not obtain an extension of the maturity date prior to finalizing the financial statements for the latest quarter, the entire bank term loan balance of $26 million is classified as a current liability in the August 31, '08 balance sheet. In addition to seeking an extension of the credit agreement maturity date, we plan to refinance the bank loans with proceeds from new funding sources as soon as we are able to do so on reasonable terms. We anticipate that this refinancing would primarily involve an asset based loan, collateralized by receivables Indiana inventory. Turbulent conditions in the credit markets and our current level of receivables and inventories that could service collateral for an asset based loan are both factors that constrain our ability to refinance the bank term loan at the present time. Nonetheless, we are optimistic that as our shipments continue to ramp up to the DBS service provider that has historically been our largest customer, conditions will be more conducive to achieving this refinancing in the midterm future.

  • With that, I'll now turn the call back over to Rick Gold for our second quarter guidance and some final comments.

  • - President, CEO

  • Thank you, Rick. Now let's turn to our financial guidance. Our third quarter guidance remains cautious due in part to continued uncertainty surrounding the US economy which may impact purchase decisions by key customers. That said, we expect an increase in sales of Satellite products compared to the second quarter as shipments to our historically largest customer continue to ramp. In addition, we anticipate that Wireless DataCom revenue will be slightly higher compared to the second quarter.

  • Based on our current estimates we believe that fiscal 20009 third quarter revenue will be in the range of 26 to $30 million with a GAAP net loss in the range of $0.03 to $0.07 per diluted share. The adjusted basis or non-GAAP results of operations for the third quarter, which exclude amortization of intangible assets and stock based compensation expense, both net of tax, are expected to be in the range of a loss of $0.03 to income of $0.01 per diluted share.

  • In concluding our prepared remarks I'd like to recap some key points from our recent results. First, the Wireless DataCom business posted another strong quarter with greater than 10% adjusted basis operating margin. Our strategic growth initiatives are on track and this business is poised for long term profitable growth. Second, our Satellite business with our historically largest customer is getting back on track with the commencement of volume shipments and ramping production lines. We've now made significant steps toward rebuilding our competitive position and achieving profitability in our DBS business. And third, we are continuing to make progress toward improving our balance sheet and liquidity position as we start converting longstanding DBS inventory into cash. I believe we're on track with our recovery plan to return CalAmp to sustainable profitability, albeit in a challenging environment.

  • That concludes our prepared remarks. Thanks for your attention and at this time, I'd like to open the call up to questions. Operator?

  • Operator

  • (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) Our first question is from the line of Jim Harkin with Premier Capital Management. Please go ahead.

  • - Analyst

  • Yes, hi. I'd like to get a little more color on the agreement with Arcadian. When would you envision this contributing materially to revenues?

  • - President, CEO

  • It depends, let me just start by saying we are working with them on several potential projects right now. There are proposals outstanding from Arcadian to customers that involve our product, so I think that depending on those, on the timing of those, we could certainly see some this fiscal year, but this is really something we would expect to contribute in a meaningful way in fiscal 2010.

  • - Analyst

  • Can you give me a sense of the size of the orders that you're looking at with them?

  • - President, CEO

  • I think it's premature to talk about that, but the kinds of projects that we're talking about here are pretty substantial and could be certainly in the six or seven figure range depending on the scope of the individual project. And some of those will play out over time.

  • - Analyst

  • And how about the gross margins you would have on sales for them? Would they differ materially from what you get through your direct sales?

  • - President, CEO

  • I think from a standpoint of is there margin stacking because of the extra tier there, there's a little bit of that but what this really allows us to do is to get the extra scale. So fundamentally, the economics that we would be seeing for orders of comparable size if you aggregate them together, we would expect to be comparable to other customers that were buying in those kinds of aggregated volume.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • - President, CEO

  • Now one thing I should mention is that these parts, they are based on a common platform, that we already had but because of the specifics of their network, they are, they do become custom products.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Can you talk a little bit about these new opportunities for the Aircept business and in particular what type of end markets or applications you're thinking about for them?

  • - President, CEO

  • So we have not announced, there's a few key initiatives that we're working on with some partners that the partners have not announced them yet and we have not announced them. The one common theme that I can tell you is that these are really targeted at end consumers.

  • - Analyst

  • Do you have a time frame for what you're thinking about on when we might see a turnaround from this business?

  • - President, CEO

  • I think we can expect to see some of the fruits of the new initiatives this fiscal year; however, one thing about that business is just given the way the revenue and profit is recognized on a GAAP basis, it's spread out over time, so by the time it's fully reflected in an upturn there, it could be into next fiscal year but I think what we can say there, and we've talked about this the last couple quarters is the challenges in the subprime vehicle finance market. I think from a standpoint of that business just looking over the last few months at new billings, now installations there from our direct sales channels, those have stabilized, albeit at a much lower level than we had thought they were going to be a year or two ago, but in terms of turning it back up, it's really, it's not going to come from that market. It's going to come from some of the newer initiatives I alluded to earlier, but we believe those newer initiatives leverage from a hardware standpoint and from the services infrastructure standpoint, what we're already doing at Aircept, and we believe that those initiatives even individually and certainly in the aggregate have the potential to be as big if not bigger than the business we're doing, and that obviously depends on execution, but again, we've talked about this before. These markets for tracking, there's many verticals and sub verticals within there, and I continue to believe that we're just at the knee of the curve on adoption there. So we're bullish about that business but also cognizant that the vertical that Aircept is currently focused in is really challenged.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS) Next question is from the line of Kevin Dede with Morgan Joseph. Please go ahead.

  • - Analyst

  • Afternoon, Rick. How are you?

  • - President, CEO

  • Hi.

  • - Analyst

  • Just a couple of strategic issues. I guess what you're expecting on the DBS side is pretty much what you pointed to last quarter in that you think you'll get to that double digit revenue number and profitable in four or five quarters from now and I guess what I'm wondering is, are you sticking with that business just to make sure that you'll be able to refinance the term note? Is that what your thinking is?

  • - President, CEO

  • Well there's a couple questions embedded in there so let me just back up a second. I think we are definitely looking for that business to be significantly larger this quarter than it was last quarter and we had guided to a $15 million run rate which would put us at breakeven by the middle of next fiscal year, so well above, beyond double digits but at that point where it can be profitable, and we believe that that is achievable. It's a very realistic goal, and that when we get to that point and can get past that point, that business becomes quite profitable. Even though the margins are relatively low, the ability to generate cash and flow that to the bottom line with a very manageable OpEx as we grow is something we seen before in that business and we're looking to see again. Albeit probably not at the 40, $50 million kind of quarterly run rates that we were at a couple of years ago for at least awhile, but to get it to $15 million and beyond where we can really see the financial and the strategic leverage there is definitely part of our strategy. The other point that I would add there is, and I think I mentioned this on the last call, that as we look at that business in the context of the CalAmp of today with the vibrant wireless data business, we're looking for opportunities that go beyond just the things we've done historically, and so I believe that a year or two from now, that business is going to start to actually have a lot more in common with our wireless data business than it does today. In other words, higher levels of functionality, even more significant contributions from our engineering team and from a product differentiation standpoint, but in the near term our focus is just growing the current business and getting back really in the game there from a competitive position and so far so good on that.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, then just to take it one step further, I guess what you're telling me is that you see that as a profitable cash generation type of business and not something that you're sticking with just to facilitate financial transaction that you'll need to do to clean up the balance sheet between now and the end of the year.

  • - President, CEO

  • That's exactly correct. But again, I'm drawing a distinction between that as the foundation of the business and that as a product line that contributes as a product line and in particular, I don't see our balance sheet getting back to looking like what it did a couple years ago where we had a disproportion at amount of our, of the assets on our balance sheet tied up around the Satellite business. I don't see that happening and that's really kind of what I'm pointing to when I say treating it as a product line rather than the foundation of the business.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, well that sort of is the springboard for my next question. I was hoping you'd give us a little more detail on inventory and what leaves you confident that you'll be able to work that down?

  • - President, CEO

  • Okay. That's a good question. Inventory came down slightly this quarter from a dollar standpoint although the turns came down just because of the revenue. We came down from 25 and change --

  • - Analyst

  • To 24.

  • - President, CEO

  • Yes, to just a tad under 24. We expect that to come down materially in the next two quarters and the reason for that is as you can see from the detail in the Q, we have a disproportionate amount of our inventory tied up in the Satellite products and a lot of that inventory is inventory that's been sitting there for a year, so really just to kind of time phase it out for you, what has happened in the last quarter was the process of starting to convert some of that inventory into product, and from a cash standpoint at the beginning of that, of course, we were doing the work on the product because there is a rework involved to conform to the new design, those cost inputs from a cash standpoint, we felt that in the most recent quarter but because the revenues were back loaded in the quarter, those were for the most part those were receivables at the end of the quarter, but in this quarter we were continuing to convert current existing inventory into reworked product and it will be, as you can see from the detail in the Q, we have several million dollars of inventory associated to these specific products, and over the next couple quarters, we're going to be flushing that through, reworking it, turning it into receivables and ultimately cash, as well as paying down the note that we have there.

  • So over the next, and the other thing I should point to is that in some of our other businesses, where the inventory has been relatively flat, we are paying particular attention to that and across the entire spectrum of the businesses that we have, we will be focusing on more efficient management of our inventory, but there's some real low hanging fruit there in Satellite, and there's several million dollars of inventory there that will be where we will see net reductions over the next few quarters if that business ramps and we flush that through.

  • - Analyst

  • So okay, then just taking your comments and boiling them down, I guess what you're saying is most of that inventory as it relates to Satellite is components and work in progress versus product that was designed to previous specs.

  • - President, CEO

  • Well, at this point, I would classify it all as work in process because some of it was finished a year and a half ago and was about to be shipped but has now been opened up and we've begun the process of reworking it. Some of it was in earlier stages at the PC board level or in some cases still at the component level. So, you know, we had reserves established to cover the cost of reworking that inventory and, we are, that process is well under way but just kind of the value of the inventory to start with includes everything from components through work in process and some of that work in process as I say was essentially complete and we're making very minor modifications to it to convert it into finished product. But all of that cost of reworking the existing inventory of the finished products has already been reserved.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Then what would you imagine that inventory level to be say at the end of the November quarter and then at the end of the February quarter, just a rough target?

  • - CFO

  • I would expect, we don't give specific guidance on inventory but I would expect it to be, we came down a little over $1 million this quarter. I would expect that to accelerate. The current quarter that we just reported in Q2 came down $1.3 million. I would expect a larger decrease in each of the next two quarters.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay. Switching gears, and going back to Arcadian just for a quick second, my understanding was there was a particular equipment vendor serving that network and my take is that they are no longer doing that. I'm just wondering, I mean, as far as I remember, Arcadian had coverage in part of one state. I'm just wondering if you could give us a little more background on where you think their network covers and some of the financing behind that network development.

  • - President, CEO

  • So they have coverage over most of the nation. They did have a relationship and I don't, to be honest Kevin , I don't know the exact details of the current state of the relationship with the other equipment provider that you're referring to, but they are involved, and we have been in discussions with several of the end customers that they are proposing to or we are involved in joint proposals, so it spans, there's multiple geographies and multiple end markets that are involved there. This is early. We have not announced any

  • - Analyst

  • Okay, I got you. Are the products that you'll be working with for that network cellular based or is it going to have to be a proprietary based RF component?

  • - President, CEO

  • It's a proprietary architecture and it's a derivative of what we have used for our public safety private networks in the past, so that's the fundamental architecture of these products, but they were a different frequency obviously, so we have, and there's some other relatively minor changes there but that's the platform that we're using as the foundation for this.

  • - Analyst

  • Right. Okay, well congrats on winning that and we'll look forward to watching the progress.

  • - President, CEO

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Management please continue with any closing comments.

  • - President, CEO

  • Okay, well, I'd like to thank you all for joining us today and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.

  • Operator

  • Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes the CalAmp fiscal 2009 second quarter conference call. If you'd like to listen to a replay of today's conference in its entirety, you can dial 1-800-405- 2236, or 303-590-3000 and input access code 11120595. Those numbers again, for dial-in, 1-800-405-2236, or 303-590-3000, input the access code 11120595. AT&T We would like to thank you very much for your participation today. You may now disconnect. Have a very pleasant rest of your day.