Bit Digital Inc (BTBT) 2024 Q2 法說會逐字稿

Hello, and welcome to the Bit Digital second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. Good morning, good afternoon and good evening, depending on where you're joining us from. Thank you for being here. We're just giving a few more moments for attendees to dial in. So thank you for your patience.

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I'll now hand it over to your host, Cameron Schneider of Investor Relations at Bit Digital. Cameron, the floor is yours.

Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to the Bit Digital second quarter 2024 earnings call. Joining us on the call today are Sam Tabar, Chief Executive Officer; and Erke Huang, Chief Financial Officer.

Before we begin, I would like to remind all participants that some of the statements we will be making today are forward-looking. These matters involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our results to differ materially from those projected in these statements and therefore, refer you to our latest 20-F filing, yesterday's 6-K filing and our other SEC filings.

Our comments today may also include non-GAAP financial measures. Additional details reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our 20-F filing in yesterday's 6-K filing, which are on our website. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call up for questions. If you'd like to ask a question, (Event Instructions)

With that important note covered. I will now turn the call over to Sam to discuss our performance. Sam?

Thank you, Cam. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on the call today. Today, I will dive into our second quarter results, discuss some of our ongoing strategic initiatives and provide some color on what we envision as the future for Bit Digital. Eric will then provide more detail on our financial results, and then we will open the line for your questions.

Our second quarter results were solid, we are encouraged by the progress we've made in diversifying our business, our revenue more than doubled from the prior year. Our gross margins expanded by over 1,000 basis points.

Adjusted EBITDA and EPS were impacted by an unrealized loss on our digital asset position. The first full quarter contribution from our HPC businesses well timed, it helps offset the decline stemming from the post halving reduction in block rewards.

Our balance sheet remains pristine with zero debt. It affords us significant flexibility to prudently invest in the most accretive opportunities. The groundwork is firmly in place for us to realize our long-term vision of creating a diversified, durable platform that generates consistent cash flows and significant returns.

On the mining side of the business, we were most required during the quarter that was by design. We were keen to wait and see how the environment shook out following the having. Network hash rate proved to be resilient despite reduction in block rewards and house price subsequently fell to new all-time lows.

Our active pass rate ended the quarter at approximately 2.6 EH/s. This is a slight decrease compared to the end of Q1. The decline is attributed to curtailments in Iceland and energy saving measures at sites where electricity prices were unusually high. We produced 244 big clients during the quarter. This is a 23% decrease from the prior year, driven by increased network difficulty and a reduction in block rewards.

For the quarter, our average electricity price per bitcoin was approximately $0.047 per kilowatt hour. Electricity price per bitcoin was 29,300. Our total cost of production, defined as electricity and other hosting fees divided by big wind production amounted to approximately 43,200 for the quarter.

Profit sharing fees amounted to around $11,100 per bitcoin for the first quarter, on profit sharing fees, they vary based on the amount of gross profit per bitcoin we receive, this fee accounts for the fact that we don't own our own mining infrastructure. Other companies have charges under different line items that account for the costs of running a mining site, including labor, this is often overlooked by comps sheets, comparing production costs.

Our average realized bitcoin price during the second quarter was around $65,800. This leaves around $22,700 in gross profit or mining margin of around 34%. However, current economics present challenges, especially with the depreciation costs, this makes it difficult to recover the investment in new mining rigs within a reasonable timeframe.

We're bullish on the future of Bitcoin, but we are realists. The economics are difficult right now, and we are choosing not to aggressively grow into that backdrop without higher conviction that we can make a justifiable return on new equipment.

Our principal bottleneck to extra house growth right now is our own menu of growth options. We see better investment options in HPC at the moment. So based on what we see today, we think it's unlikely that we will hit six EH/s by the year end, material EH/s growth for us into year end would require either a significantly better view on mining economics or a significant deterioration in the opportunity set we currently see on the HPC side. Near term, our focus on the mining side is on improving the efficiency of our active fleet and lowering production costs.

Switching gears, the HPC segment generated $12.5 million of revenue at 63% gross margins during the second quarter. That was the first full quarter of operations for this business. We recently announced a binding term sheet with a new customer Boosteroid, the world's third largest cloud gaming provider following Microsoft and Nvidia.

We believe that this represents a key end market expansion for our HPC business beyond AI applications for LM training specifically. This term sheet carries a locked five-year term. It also provides for up to 50,000 GPUs over a five-year period following the signing of the MSA, the entire contract, if Boosteroid elects the deploy the entire 50,000 GPU allotment could be worth more than $700 million of revenue for the digital over the five year contract subject to market conditions.

The initial deployment will be a test positive. This will likely represent a $2 million to $3 million annualized revenue opportunity and it's starting form. We expect that initial deployment to take place over the next few months and expect to scale that contract throughout 2025, we'll be able to provide provide further details on the timing and buildout of the contract after we execute the MSA, which we are working hard on completing as soon as possible.

We look forward to growing alongside this right and helping them achieve their goal of becoming the global leader in cloud gaming. This deal has great growth potential and aligns with our business model of growing alongside our customers.

Our pipeline and HPC remains strong and continues to grow. The major bottlenecks to date in terms of completing incremental contracts has been bandwidth. We simply haven't had the adequate manpower to move highly customized customers deals through the finish line, but we have begun to solve for that need.

We made our first full-time hires in the HPC segment to help lead the revenue process. We will formally announce those hires very soon, and we're excited for them to ramp up and lead the sales charge. These people have had a very impressive track record in growing an HPC platform and customer base.

We are also working on additional hires to complement our existing strengths and filling strategic gaps. Beating up our tech stack is a key priority on the hiring front near term. For our anchor customer, we previously announced that we were expecting to install an incremental 2,000 H100 and begin revenue generation on those units in the late third quarter.

In late July, our customer brought in some new technical talent that ultimately led to the review of their future hardware portfolio. As a result, our customer asked us to pause the H100 order. While they assess the possibility of upgrading the servers to newer-generation models, we reached an agreement with the OEM to delay our server order and have paid only for certain longer lead time networking equipment.

It's important to note that there is no change in this customer contract, the contract remains in full force and effect. The biggest change from going from a bitcoin mining to HP services. Is the customer facing aspect within HPC. You don't have to worry about keeping your customers satisfied and declining there are no customers have their core mining.

We're very keen on keeping our customers and HPC happy, and we want to help position them for long-term success. So when our customer asks us to pause in order. While they assess their technological needs, we oblige them with that courtesy, despite the potential negative impact by the delay in the onset of revenue may have, we will have greater clarity on the customers' plans over the next several weeks, and we'll provide an update as soon as feasible.

Recent headlines suggest that Nvidia's Blackwell B200 chips may not be available until early 2025. So there's a chance that if our customer opt to upgrade to the contract, the contract to those chips for revenue contribution to be digital would be delayed until such time until we can procure those chips.

However, we are confident that we can secure an early allotment of those chips based on the conversations we've had with some of our key relationships, there is also a chance that our customer just decides, but we'd rather continue forward with the H100 or possibly the H200. I would note that the lead times for the H100 have come down quite significantly, and we're confident that we can procure those units today in about three to four weeks' time.

Lastly, if our customer does decide to press forward with the Blackwell B200 chips revenue recognition recognition, revenue recognition will likely be pushed into 2025, but we'd expect the scope of revenue to be greater than the $42 million annual figures stipulated under the H100 contract.

Notably, and in case there are any doubts of how serious our customer is. We received a non-refundable $30 million prepayment from our customer earlier this month. Our growth pipeline remains quite strong. We continue to believe that we'll be able to reach our $100 million annualized revenue target by the end of 2024, even if the 2,000 GPU expansion deployment with our current existing anchor customer is pushed to 2025, we expect the remainder of the year to be a very busy one for a Bit Digital.

As previously noted, we believe that having our own infrastructure would help mature our HPC business, and we are actively working on ways to solve for that. We are evaluating opportunities that we think could complement our existing business well.

It's hard for us to provide any incremental detail, but I'll say that this is an area that we view as a very attractive potential use of our capital. The bottom line is that we've been deliberately strengthening our balance sheet and have considerable dry powder to deploy into opportunities that we view as highly accretive and strategic, we expect to share these exciting developments on the capital deployment front on our next earnings call.

Lastly, we materially increased our eighth position late in second quarter by a Bitcoin conversions. As of the end of June, we had over $90 million worth of ease compared to approximately $37 million worth of Bitcoin. We remain bullish on [East] long term, we believe the market will soon appreciate its versatility and sound monetary policy.

As it relates to the recent approval of spot EPTS, we are happy about the institutional inflows that they have brought and will bring into East. We also think there will be helpful in terms of bringing both awareness and education around East to the broader market. However, one key aspect that the ETHs lack is the ability to stack ETH, the stake ETH. That digital continues to have that advantage over these new vehicles.

I'll now hand it over the line to Erke to discuss our financial results.

Thank you, Sam. I will now discuss certain financial results for the second quarter of 2024. Total revenue was $29 million, a 220% increase compared to the prior year. The revenue increase was driven by the first full quarter of our HPC services business and by higher realized bitcoin prices.

Our Bitcoin production decreased 23% year-over-year to 244.2 bitcoins. The decrease was driven by an increase in the bitcoin network difficulty and by the reduction in [brawl] rewards following the April happening.

Bitcoin mining revenue increased 80% from the prior year to $16.1 million due to higher bitcoin prices. Our HPC services business recognized $12.5 million of revenue during the quarter. We earned 109.4 Ethereum from native staking rewards during the quarter, representing approximately $374,000 in revenue.

Our total cost of revenue was $15.2 million compared to $5.6 million in the prior year. The increase was driven by an increase in our active mining fleets, higher bitcoin network difficulty the start of our HPC business.

Gross profit increased more than 300% from the prior year to $13.8 million. Mining contributed $5.5 million towards gross profit and HPC added $7.9 million. The total gross margin expanded 1,100 bps from the prior year grew 48% with the induction of with the in this addition of HPC offsetting lower bitcoin mining margins related to increased bitcoin network difficulty.

General and administrative costs were approximately $5.5 million compared to $5.4 million during the prior year quarter. Depreciation and amortization expense was $8.4 million for the second quarter compared to $3.7 million last year, with the increase driven by a larger mining fleet and our GPU fleet that was deployed in early 2024.

Adjusted EBITDA was negative $3.8 million for quarter compared to $1.9 million last year, while gross profit increased year-over-year and yet SG&A was roughly flat. We recognized a $11.5 million unrealized loss on digital assets, which reduced the adjusted EBITDA number. GAAP earnings per share was a loss of $0.09 for the quarter compared to a loss of $0.03 prior year with the change in digital assets, prices being the primary driver of the decrease.

Turning to our balance sheet, we held approximately $61 million of cash and restricted cash as of June 30, this year, and our digital asset position was worth approximately $130 million. Total assets amounted to $315 million at the end of the quarter, while shareholders' equity was $295 million.

Our balance sheet remains debt-free by the way, continue to evaluate potential debt financing options as a means to accelerate of growth, our HPC business, given the strength of our balance sheet, we can afford to be patient on that front.

CapEx was approximately $5 million during the quarter. The CapEx was used for the purchase of approximately 1,115 new miners for -- and for deposits and certain HPC equipments.

I will now turn the call back to Sam for closing remarks.

Thank you, Erke. Over the past several months, we have seen a large increase in investors that are now interested in bitcoin mining stocks because of the HPC angle. Many are curious about AI future. This is like asking where bitcoins prices were going to be. I would believe that AI will transform the global economy and bitcoin will be worth significantly more in the future. I just can't predict exactly when or to what magnitude this will play out.

What I do know is that both AI and Bitcoin will require significantly higher computing power in the years ahead. We want to be positioned to supply that computational power on the HPC side, while maintaining the flexibility to opportunistically increase our mining output.

We might not be the largest bitcoin producer, but size isn't everything EH/s and production are hollow metrics that the underlying returns profile. We're okay, we are not leading in production because the real value lies in making the right moves at the right time.

For now, we're seeing better opportunities in HPC. The barriers to entry in mining aren't that high, and we can scale up when it makes sense for us to do so, when it comes to AI, I can't tell you what the next killer app is going to be.

AI is evolving very fast and new applications will continue to pop up, people would never have imagined Uber or Twitter or Instagram when the Internet was invented, I'm nearly certain the new and unexpected use cases for AI will emerge and that in five years, the world will require far more high performance computing power than we need today.

We're not just focused on AI tailwinds. The binding term sheet we announced of booster today a cloud gaming company is a good example of how we're diversifying. That deal also provides for significant growth, which is ultimately the fabric of our business model to align ourselves with customers and grow in a mutually beneficial way.

Some might be disappointed about the temporary delay of our anchor customer GPU expansion, but these things happen in a customer focused business once the revenue comes in, the margins will likely be even better if they decide to upgrade the new hardware models.

We remain long-term greedy. We're not taking a myopic view on the business we want to grow alongside our customers for the next decade and renew contract after contract long term. I'm confident that this approach will maximize shareholder value. We're working on a lot of very exciting things right now, and I wish I could share more details, but that's the past and my counsel, all I will say for now all I will say for now is stay tuned.

With that, I would like to open the line for some questions.

(Operator Instructions)

Hey, Sam, this is Mike Grondahl. First question is, actually on -- the $700 million potential boosteroid contract. It looks like it starts at about $13 million in revenue over five years, and you talked about scaling in 2025. Is there any minimum levels or how should we think about that scaling?

So we expect to be able to provide greater detail on the growth cadence over time, the initial allotment as a starting quantity and upon successful deployment, we expect to start fulfillment incremental deployments. However, this contract is designed for us to grow in tandem with boosteriod, we're not looking to deploy the full run rate out of the gates. Our baseline for 2025, is probably to get to around 30% of total deployments. Boosteriod growth trajectory and our own capital allocation plans are the key variables to the cadence of that deployment.

Okay. Well, 30% is at least something to go on in it and it's a lot. Secondly, you kind of talked, customer one in the pause. I think that's the right approach and they already have 2,000. But you said too that you can still reach your $100 million run rate by year end '24, without customer one. Could you talk a little bit about your HPC GPU pipeline. Is it a couple large ones like boosteroid or is it, numerous small ones. just trying to get a flavor for that pipeline.

Yeah. So we announced boosteroid yesterday. Other clients are very close to the finish line. Our new hires will help accelerate that closing process. As mentioned, that was a pretty large gating item, just not having the manpower to deal with all these reverse inquiries, and we continue to have that. But we do think we can hit that $100 million mark by the year end, even with that expansion being paused potentially to 2025. And by the way, the decision hasn't been made yet on that.

But beyond that contribution from boosteroid, we do have several clients close to closing and we'll get to a pretty close to that number. So we're pretty confident we're not revising that target. We still got about $100 million.

Got it. Did your new head of sales actually start? Or is that person coming on soon?

No. He started.

Okay. And then, one more, you talked a little bit towards the end of your prepared remarks about acquisition and whatnot. In the past, you've mentioned possibly you're looking at a data center, is that what you were referring to there? Kind of that's been where you've been spending some time and you couldn't say more. I'm just trying to connect the dots there a little bit.

Yeah. Now we understand. This is ongoing, we don't have way too much into the details about what we're seeing out there and what we're targeting. We can't provide too much detail on our process, but it's something we're looking at. Yeah, so I can't say more than that, but I can say that owning our own site, certainly on the HPC side of the equation will allow us to offer different services like co-location and on-demand compute.

Got it. Yeah, that would be great. And then maybe lastly for Erke. In Q2, Erke, you guys hit the ATM roughly 16 million shares since June 30, about another 9 million shares. How are you attempting to finance this going forward. There's a bunch of CapEx. I know you've talked about a credit facility in the past, but how are you just thinking about, using the ATM versus getting a credit facility in place?

At that for your question, Mike, as we always expressed the use of ATM, we are very cautious, that as we all know this business requires a large procurement downpayment, so it's always good to have the best in your balance sheet to support our growth. And the same time we are talking to [lawyers], credit facility providers to determine what's the best term for us to deploy. So we're working on that as well.

If I could just add to that Mike, we are -- we continue to evaluate term sheets on debt financing. And in terms of the indicative terms that we're seeing, we see some reasonable terms, but nothing for us to be super excited about to accept and we haven't been forced in a position to accept less than optimal debt financing terms, and that's important.

Got it. Thanks guys and congratulations.

Thank you.

And we'll go. -- We'll take our next question.

Hi, Sam, Erke. Kevin Dede, can you hear me? Okay.

Hi, Kevin loud and clear.

Good. Okay, thanks. Just first on the bitcoin side, I obviously you spoke to decline and yourself mining hash rate. I'm just wondering what you're thinking about what they're doing with those machines and then I think if I understood or heard correctly new machine purchase, maybe you could just sort of fill in the blanks on where you think your hash rate target will be at year end, given you're kind of pulling back on the range there on economic -- (Inaudible)?

Yeah, Kevin, that's a good question, understandable. Here, the long-term plan for bitcoin mining for us is to remain opportunistic. It's not a business that we believe that should be consistently invested into regardless of prevailing economic. So we have different levers.

So we're in a very fortunate position on that, but you could expect potentially some modest growth, but we can't give any guidance on that because, again, we want to just remain opportunistic and want to see how the market conditions evolve.

But at current economics, we would likely not spend more than $5 million to $10 million on fleet upgrades that are on the current economics, and that's been going sideways for a while the economic staff. Also, on one hand, it would be we'd have to see a big acceleration in HPC demand that we're seeing. And we're currently see a good amount of capital to fund opportunities for the HPC side. So I think I mean, that's the answer. I don't know if Erke wants to add to that. But that's my thought about it.

Yeah, I agree with you.

So you did make a machine purchase and then what's the thinking regarding machines that you've taken offline, the ones that perhaps are much higher levels of, -- I guess, inefficiency?

Well, if they're not economically viable for certain models, they go into a warehouse or we sell them, which is by something we've done.

Very good. Okay. Then sort of switching gears and looking at HPC hosting sites. My thinking would be that boosteriods facilities would need to be close to metropolitan areas versus, say customer one, which I think is mostly in France. Can you talk about how you're lining up facilities to meet the obligations of the boosteriod ideal?

Yeah. I'd like to pass back to Erke or Cam.

I'll add to it after.

Yeah. (multiple speakers) Different locations, including locations in the US as a Europe, to deploy those equipment.

Yeah, everybody source the data centers, Kevin, and you are right, they are. Close to metropolitan areas. It is like a lot more akin to the inference side than training so that they're not it's spread out in very remote areas. There close to more densely populated regions, which it follows the great cloud gaming industry where latency is obvious paramount concern.

Yeah, I would add that, at the size -- Kevin go ahead.

No, go ahead. Sam you go, please. Thanks.

Well, I was going to say at the size we're looking at data center capacity hasn't been a major issue. We haven't lost any dealers because we can find capacity, although we do think owning our own site will make us more flexible. And we're working pretty hard right now on ways to solve for exactly that need.

How would you characterize pricing on the sites that you've located for boosteriod versus what you did for customer one? (multiple speakers) trends?

In terms of -- what repeat that, Kevin?

Just general cost trends on that (inaudible) there's huge demand for HPC and that would obviously raise a flag of cost trends on the tower side.

Yeah. Just before I pass that to Erke, as mentioned, data center capacity has not been a major issue and we have not lost any deals because we couldn't find capacity just to mention, but I'll pass the rest to my colleagues.

Yeah. I mean, in terms of the details of the deal, the -- or certainly provides more clarity after we've signed the MSA. So we will provide that shortly.

Yeah, we're working pretty hard on completing and executing that MSA very soon. And we'll you mentioned perhaps the market. Kevin, I think, direct.

So assume that data center requirements for training a large language model are a lot more extensive than for cloud gaming purposes. So directionally, you wouldn't expect it's expensive.

Okay. So Cam, rewind that a bit? You're saying that training is less -- the requirements to meet train demands are less expensive, which would be my assumption?

The type of data center and ancillary equipment you need for a Tier 3 data center centers, for training and LM are far greater than the data center requirements that you have necessitate for our cloud gaming deployment was sort of the essence of that. So like directionally, this deployment would be less expensive than the training side.

Interesting. Why is that? Because the compute isn't as high? I mean, it just seems to me that you would -- you'd want that same low latency and redundancy?

Yeah, I mean, certainly it just like the CapEx spend in the data center isn't as high necessarily. We get to have a lot a long form discussion of this offline, and we did bring in some heavy hitters for you.

Last question for me. Just help me understand the difference between a binding term sheet and then [Ally] and the MSA and what sort of financial obligations are associated with a fracture of any of them?

Yeah. It's worth mentioning this this term sheet is finding that's not just some sort of intentional, aspirational [Align] is a binding term sheet and the MSA we're currently working on, so that the binding term sheet has the high-level software economics and and so on. And the MSA has the more legal nitty-gritty on and that will be announced very shortly. Does that answer your question? I feel like I missed something, Kevin, what can you --

Yeah, there is one nuance. It's just wondering what sort of changes what would happen if either party decides not consummate the deal?

I mean, there's no legal recourse, but we're not in the business of there's legal recourse that we don't believe that's going to happen. If we felt that was going to happen. We would not have announced the binding term sheet.

Very good. Okay. Appreciate the color and thanks for me.

You're right, Kevin, you'd expect, but we're very confident and we're very close to the clients.

Well, good. Congratulations. We're looking forward to see how that progresses.

Thank you.

And we'll take the next question.

This is Joe Gomes from Noble Capital. So on the boosteriod contract, maybe just conceptually, can you kind of relay what kind of the margin on that versus the the anchor HPC contract margins, how do they compare?

The margins are still nice and fast, but they're not as good as the margins on the H100, having said that, if the if our anchor client, not that you asked, but I do want to emphasize that if our anchor client decides to go with the Blackewel B200, I mean sure, there is a delay, but we're long-term greedy, which will have even better economics and even better margins on that particular hardware.

But with respect to the hardware related to boosteriod the margins are still quite good. We will -- the MSA is yet to come out, but it will not be asked high as H100.

Okay, thanks for that. And on the mining business. Can you talk a little bit about how the gross margin for that segment flowed over the quarter?

It was a pretty flat over the quarter where the margin -- was the gross margin at the end of the quarters or something significantly different than what it was at the beginning of the quarter?

Cam, do you want to take that?

I don't know if there's necessarily much variation beyond that. I mean, I guess there could be certain instances for fluctuate, but really it's pretty steady state.

Okay. That's good. And then as you go into the filings and fleet efficiency declined sequentially. And I was just wondering if you could talk to what was behind that?

Yeah. I mean, it declined numerically, but I mean, it actually improved timing. Our fleet efficiency improved from a [28.3 to 27.9], that just means an incrementally more efficient fleet. And that was purely by replacing certain less-efficient units with newer models that about greater energy efficiency.

Okay. And then one last one for me. On the delay with the decline, I understand it could be resolved that a day. It could be resolve beginning in 2025, but are there any cost associated with that delay for you guys where you won't be seeing the revenue coming in, but you will have been incurring expenses.

So on that front, so we ordered certain long lead time network equipment, but we didn't place the order for the H100 yet, as the lead time for that is now three to four weeks. So that's good.

Okay, great. Nice quarter. Thanks for taking my questions.

Thank you.

And we'll take our next question.

Hi, Sam.

Good morning.

Just a question on HPC -- This is Chris Sakai from Singular Research

Okay. Hi, Chris. How are you?

On the HPC. business, is this more of a strategic shift now to HPC and then from bitcoin mining?

Well, here's the thing. A lot of pure play bitcoin miners. There's this old saying if all you have is a hammer, everything is season now. So all they can do is -- when you only have one lever is regardless of the economics, it's got to grow.

We are in a really incredible position to have multiple levers we have three levers, bitcoin mining, ethereum staking and HPC. And so we're able to work creatively since we have different levers in our capital allocation plans, and we have been always ahead of the trends. And with respect to HPC, we were one of the first, if not the first to announce material contracts in this sector. And we continue to grow exponentially with a pretty pragmatic pipeline.

So we were right and identifying and using and leveraging the skills of a Bitcoin miner into this space. We have very deep know-how in procuring specialized equipment and have great relationships with the right counterparties on that.

And we have -- we've been able to execute really, really well for our current clients, which makes it even easier to get other clients because we have an incredible track record, we have global reach, we have in our offices around the world, including Singapore, and we made. We've been able to serve underserved markets around different regions, not just the US in terms of client sourcing.

So we've have been in a very fortunate position and we're leaning pretty hard on hiring ahead of revenue and sales staff, which we've done, which we haven't announced yet. But that has opened they have started to help, just from an organizational design perspective lead to sales targets because so far, we've done this without a sales team. So with the sales team, we expect to bring a lot of these clients through the finishing line.

So going back to your question, whether this is a strategic move, it certainly is and we believe we were right and we should see that the sector is following suit and frankly, every investor and shareholder and institutional meeting, I have we have -- I'm asking about the HPC side, which makes a lot of sense. You can model out cash flows much better that way to the penny.

Your assets bitcoin, It's a little bit difficult to predict where it's going to be. And yet you have to invest all this money into the equipment and you have no visibility on the price of bitcoin. So we don't want to run a business based on hope, we want to run a business based on Alpha and Triton strategy, and this move speaks that in spades.

Right. Understood. And then can you talk about do you see any potential bottlenecks to onboarding new HPC clients. And for 2025, what do you see the -- can you give color as to what's your pipeline there? How many new customers do you think would come on for HPC?

Yeah. As mentioned, our pipeline has been bandwidth and manpower. We've received plenty of reverse inquiries, and we've already built this business with zero salespeople. So that has been the bottleneck, just manpower and frankly, cognitive overload. And so we've been able to solve for that. And that's that's happening.

And as mentioned, we have geographical reach, including global presence and offices in various regions that provides us key relationships and the ability to compete for business and underserved parts of the world, so we do see that we already have a pregnant pipeline and frankly, the future is pretty bright. In the HPC side of the business for the rest of the year and 2025.

Okay, great. Thanks for the answers.

Thank you. Thank you for your questions.

That does conclude the question-and-answer session. And I'll now turn the conference back over to you for any additional or closing remarks.

Well, thank you again for joining us today. We appreciate your continued interest and support. And we do look forward to speaking with you again in the next quarter. Pretty exciting times for us. And this officially concludes our call. Have a great day, everybody.

Thank you. That does conclude today's conference. We do thank you for your participation. Have an excellent day.