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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon and welcome to the Bruker Q3 2015 earnings release conference call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. (Operator Instructions). Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Joshua Young. Please, go ahead.

  • Joshua Young - VP of IR

  • Thank you very much, Amy. Good afternoon. I would like to welcome everyone to Bruker's third quarter 2015 conference call. My name is Joshua Young and I'm the Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Development for Bruker. Joining me on today's call are Frank Laukien, our President and CEO, Tony Mattacchione, Bruker's Senior Vice President and Interim Chief Financial Officer, and Rene Lenggenhager, our newly appointed President of the Bruker BioSpin Group. In addition to the earnings release we issued earlier today we will also be referencing a slide presentation as part of today's conference call. The PDF of this presentation, downloaded by clicking on the earnings release hyper link on Bruker's Investor Relations website. During today's call we will be highlighting non-GAAP financial information.

  • A reconciliation to our GAAP to non-GAAP financial statements is included in our earnings release and in our web cast presentation. Before we begin, I would like to reference Bruker's Safe Harbor statement which I show in slide 2. During this conference call we will make forward-looking statements regarding future events or the financial performance of the Company that involves risks and uncertainties. The Company's actual results may differ materially from the projections described in such statements. Factors that might cause such differences include but are not limited to those discussed in today's earnings release and in our Form 10-K as well as other subsequent SEC filings.

  • Also note that the following information is related to our current business conditions and our outlook as of today, November 4, 2015. Consistent with our prior practice, we do not intend to update our protections based on new information, future events or other reasons prior to the release of our fourth quarter 2015 financial results in February, 2016. We'll begin today's call with Frank providing a business summary. Rene will then have a few brief comments about the reasons he's joined Bruker before Tony will cover the financials for the third quarter and the first nine months of 2015 in more detail.

  • Now, I would like to turn call the call over to Bruker's CEO, Frank Laukien.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Thanks, Joshua. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining us on the call today. I am pleased to report that Bruker reported stronger well balanced operational performance in the third quarter of 2015. Our organic revenue growth, operating margin expansion and free cash flow generation were all much higher on a year-over-year basis. I will begin my presentation on slide 4. We reported revenues of $396 million in the third quarter of 2015 which represented a decrease of minus $24 million or minus 6% from Q3 of 2014. Foreign exchange rates reduced our revenues by minus 11% year-over-year in the third quarter of 2015.

  • Our year-over-year organic revenue growth in Q3 2015 was plus8%. This strong growth was driven by our CALID and our BioSpin groups. CALID sustained its strong first half performance by delivering double-digit organic growth in the third quarter of 2015. Our BioSpin group also delivered strong due to a rebound in our NMR business.

  • Geographically, Europe and Asia-Pacific were the primary drivers of organic growth in the third quarter. Our third quarter 2015 non-GAAP operating margin increased by plus470 bases points year-over-year versus Q3 2014. While our CAM restructuring in 2014 helped to drive approximately plus120 bases points of this improvement, the remaining increase was related to positive mix and some accelerated customer acceptances in Q3 2015 which originally had been expected in Q4 of 2015.

  • We also continued to make underlying operational improvements in our business. We reported non-GAAP EPS of $0.19 in Q3 of 2015 which represented year-over-year growth of plus 36% despite facing a higher tax rate and a year-over-year FX headwind of minus $0.02. Finally, we generated $45 million of free cash flow, a plus$41 million year-over-year increase due to higher profitability and more efficient working capital. I would also note that we faced a weaker comparison with Q3 2014. Moving on to slide 5, I show Bruker's performance through the first nine months of 2015.

  • During the first nine months of 2015, we reported a revenue decline of minus 12%. This decline was primarily driven by currency effects in the 2014 CAM divestiture's. We reported year-over-year organic revenue growth of plus 2% in the first nine months of 2015. High single-digit organic revenue growth in our CALID growth and low single-digit organic growth in our nano group more than offset a low-single-digit organic revenue decline in our BioSpin group year-to-date. Geographically, Europe and Asia were the strongest performing regions on a year-to-date base basis.

  • Our non-GAAP operating margin for the first nine months of 2015 expanded by 220 bases points to 11.5% compared to 9.3% in the same nine-month period of 2014. Our non-GAAP EPS for the first three-quarters of 2015 were $0.51, a plus 11% increase compared to the same period of 2014. Excluding the effects of changes in foreign exchange rates, our EPS would have grown by plus 26% in the first nine months of 2015 year-over-year. Finally, our free cash flow more than tripled year-over-year during the nine months period of 2015, primarily as a result of our strong performance in Q3 2015.

  • So in summary, the operating performance trends through the first nine months of the year are very good. Our BioSpin business is starting to rebound after a slow start to the year and we are generating higher organic growth. And we are driving higher operating margins and free cash flow. Please turn to slide 6 and 7 now where I will provide additional details about the year-over-year performance of our three groups and of our BEST segment in the third quarter of 2015.

  • Let me begin with our BioSpin group which reported strong organic revenue growth as a result of a rebound in our nuclear magnetic resonance, or NMR business. Our NMR revenues grew in all geographies and we also benefited from timing as we were able to complete several installations in Q3 of 2015 that we had expected to finish later in the year. I would also remind you that BioSpin had a weak first half of 2015 so it benefited from some catch-up in Q3 of 2015.

  • Our new order bookings for NMR have continued to remain healthy and we believe that the market is recovering from the weak demand that we experienced last year. Our BioSpin Pre Clinical Imaging, or PCI Division, posted mid single-digit organic revenue growth in the quarter which was driven by our Pre Clinical MRI products. Even though the division posted reasonable revenue performance in Q3, our PCI new order bookings are weak on a year-to-date basis.

  • As a result of this weakness, we have decided to restructure the molecular imaging business of PCI to better align our cost structure with the lower revenue outlook. In addition to healthy revenue growth, BioSpin also posted significant profitability improvements in the third quarter as a result of two primary factors. First, the BioSpin group benefited from higher volume and a favorable product mix after unfavorable product mix in the second quarter of 2015.

  • Second, we are seeing margin benefits from our restructuring and operational excellence actions. Overall, BioSpin has a much improved third quarter but some of this out performance was related to timing. Next, I will turn to our CALID group which generated healthy double-digit organic revenue growth in the quarter and improved profitability. CALID saw healthy demand in Europe and Asia including China, in the quarter. One of the drivers of this performance was our Daltonics Division which experienced broad based strength in nearly all product lines and geographies in Q3 of 2015.

  • We have spent a lot of time working to strengthen the product portfolio of Daltonics and we are seeing improved demand. Our detection division which is part of CALID also continued its strong year with another quarter of exceptional revenue growth as a result of is new Explosive Trace Detection products, or ETDs, which we delivered in Q3 of 2015 in Europe. Detection is a lumpy business and after a weak 2014, we are seeing a strong year in 2015.

  • One should note that there will be much less explosive trades detection business in the immediate future as the European airports now mostly have been upgraded to newer technology. Please turn to slide 7 now where I will discuss the performance of our Bruker nano group and our BEST segment. The nano group reported an organic decline in revenues and new order bookings in the third quarter primarily as a result of weaker demand from our industrial customers.

  • The bright spot for the NANO group continues to be our AXS division which posted mid single-digit organic revenue growth in Q3 2015 and is benefiting from higher demand for its x-ray defraction products as well as some timing effects due to improved execution for its order to revenue prophesies. Revenue in our NANO surfaces division declined in the quarter with particular weakness in the semiconductor and data storage industries. We currently don't see any signs the demand for the division's products will improve in the short term but we continue to be strong believers in the long-term potential of our technologies and products in semiconductor.

  • This conviction is reflected by our very recent acquisition of Jordan Valley Semiconductor which was announced earlier this week. The closing of the acquisition was announced earlier this week. The acquisition is expected to enable us to capitalize on the secular trend towards smaller and smaller feature sizes and three-dimensional structures in the semiconductor metrology market. I will talk more about this transaction on the next slide.

  • Finally, turning to our BEST segment, despite an organic revenue decline of 3% in Q3 2015, BEST expanded its non-GAAP operating margin to almost 10%.

  • The decrease in revenue is the result of a difficult year-over-year comparison due to (inaudible) back in Q3 of 2014 and some RIGMBH revenue shift into Q4 of 2015. Additionally, the ROSATOM pilot line acceptance shifted out of the third quarter and this pilot line will present approximately $6 million of low gross margin revenue in Q4 of 2015. We are very pleased that our BEST segment in the first nine months of 2015 has seen more than 20% order growth year-over-year with large super conducting wire orders from major MRI vendors who have determined that the excellent performance, kindness and highest quality of our BEST super conductors enable them to achieve lowest overall cost. On slide 8, I would like to go into more detail about the rationale of our Jordan Valley Semiconductor acquisition.

  • You can see on the slide that the ongoing digital revolution in social media, cloud computing and smaller portable electronics is changing the types of tools required to serve the semiconductor Metrology market. Semicon customers are demanding faster and more precise Metrology of smaller and smaller feature sizes and three-dimensional structures at advanced semiconductor nodes. Jordan Valley provides x-ray Metrology and defect detection equipment for semiconductor process control that will enable Bruker to be a bigger player in what we believe will be a fundamentally attractive market. Many other Metrology tools can provide useful results in these emerging advance notes.

  • By combining Jordan Valley's core Metrology strength with Bruker's complimentary x-ray technologies, we believe we are very well positioned to capitalize on the adoption of new technologies and the next cycle of growth in semiconductor Metrology. I would like to wrap up my presentation on slide 9 where I show the key messages that have emerged after our performance in the third quarter. Earlier this year, I conveyed to you that my highest priority in 2015 was to ensure that Bruker delivered on its financial guidance for the full year. I'm pleased to report that after nine months, we are in an excellent position to meet or exceed our original fiscal year 2015 guidance for organic revenue growth, operating margin expansion and EPS.

  • Our strong performance in Q3 2015 has put us in a position where our year will be somewhat less dependent on Q4 which should help to de-risk the full year. Our BioSpin group is recovering after a weak start to the year as a result of better performance from our NMR business. I'm encouraged by both the revenue and new order bookings performance from NMR and I'm optimistic that this trend will continue. Our CALID group is having a much stronger year and we are seeing good growth for new products and for core franchises. With the elimination of our CAM losses at the end of 2014, CALID has significantly improved its profitability.

  • Finally, we are attracting exceptionally experienced top-notch managers to join both our senior management team and our Board of Directors. During the third quarter, we announced that Dr. Herman Requardt, the former CEO of Siemens Healthcare and John Ornell, the former CFO of Waters have joined Bruker's Board of Directors. We are excited to add two highest quality executives such as Herman and John.

  • We've also been strengthening our management team even further. We recently announced that Rene Lenggenhager will take over as President of Bruker BioSpin and I will introduce Rene to you in a moment.

  • In addition, we recently hired Christian Busch, as BioSpin group EVP of Finance. Christian joined from us Novartis to take over the leadership for the BioSpin group's finance function. And we made an important hire in our Daltonics division where Dr. Detrich (inaudible) has been named action the Executive Vice President of our Life Science Mass Spectrometry business. Detrich has joined us from (inaudible) and he also had a very successful career working for Diamex previously. So with the improved performance of BioSpin, the continued momentum of CALID and key new managers joining Bruker, I feel good about what we have accomplished in the first nine months of the year.

  • Now, before Tony dives into the financial details of Q3, I first like to turn the call over to Dr. Rene Lenggenhager to introduce himself to all of you. Rene, please.

  • Rene Lenggenhager - President, BioSpin Group

  • Thank you, Frank. Even though today's only my third day at Bruker, I thought it would be helpful to provide you some perspective on why I joined Bruker and what I see as the opportunity in the BioSpin group. Bruker has a strong culture built on customer intimacy innovation, integrity and product leadership. This culture fits well with my past experience at (inaudible) and attracted me to join the Company.

  • I also joined because I'm excited about the potential of the BioSpin group. Bruker is a market leader and NMR will be a critical technology to help enable new scientific discoveries that new applied clinical and industrial solutions in the future. We will continue to tradition of innovation, but we will also drive forward the operational excellence and lean initiatives an ongoing journey that can continue to bring improvements year after year.

  • I'm very familiar with the advantages and the challenges of managing business franchises where you have a market leader position. At my previous company, I completed many operational excellence projects ranging from R&D, sales and marketing, operations and logistics. From commercial perspective, I was responsible for enhancing the value setting capabilities of our sales force, while strengthening our processes and delivering sustainable growth and margin expansion.

  • I understand that customer success and financial success need to go hand-in-hand, and I see many opportunities to work with Frank and help make Bruker BioSpin an even more successful all around high performance franchise. In the near term, I'm focusing on several key priorities. First, I will be working to gain a deeper understanding of the BioSpin business, customers and markets. Second, I will work with the organization to finalize business targets and goals for 2016.

  • Third, I will ensure that the group successfully completes its ongoing restructuring initiatives. And finally, I will ensure that we continue to drive operational and commercial excellence to new levels, all with a focus on customers, innovation and profitable growth. So I will close by stating that I'm excited to be part of the Bruker team. I see tremendous potential in the BioSpin business and I look forward to meeting our shareholders and analysts in the coming year.

  • Now, I will turn the call back over to Tony Mattacchione.

  • Tony Mattacchione - SVP, Interim CFO

  • Thank you, Rene and welcome to the Bruker leadership team. I will now provide some additional details on our financial performance in Q3 2015 and in the first nine months of 2015. Financially, Bruker had a very good third quarter in all respects. Organic revenue increased 8.1%. Gross and operating margins expanded by 190 bases points and 470 bases points respectively. And EPS increased $0.05 or 36%. Finally, we generated $45 million of free cash flow in the quarter which is at a high water mark for us this year. On slide 11 I show a snapshot of our Q3 2015 non-GAAP results. Total revenues were $396 million, a decrease of 6% from the third quarter of 2014.

  • Our non-GAAP operating income was $52.8 million, a 47% increase from Q3 2014 and our non-GAAP operating margin increased 470 bases points year-over-year to 13.3% from 8.6% in Q3 2014. While we had an easy comparison compared to Q3 2014, our profitability improvement reflects a strong quarter in both our nuclear, magnetic resonance in mass spectroscopy businesses.

  • We also benefited from improvements we have made to our portfolio, or operating capabilities, in our fixed cost structure. An offset to these improvements with continued weak demand for most of our semi data storage and industrial customers in our Bruker NANO group. The net result of these drivers was that our non-GAAP earnings per share increased 36% to $0.19 a share in the quarter.

  • As I mentioned, we generated $44.7 million of free cash flow in Q3 reflecting a strong year-over-year improvement which I will elaborate on in a minute. Our higher free cash flow combined with continuous improvement in our working capital ratios led to a strong year-over-year improvement in our net cash position. On slide 12, I show the revenue bridge for Q3 2015. Despite a 2.8% negative effect from the 2014 CAM divestiture, and a 10.9% negative effect from changes in foreign currency translation, organic revenue grew 8.1% in the third quarter of 2015. Organic revenue growth of $33.2 million in Q3 2015 was driven by our CALID and BioSpin groups as Frank had mentioned.

  • I would also note that our CALID group in particular had a very strong quarter of performance. On slide 13, our Q3 2015 non-GAAP gross margin of 46.1% increased 190 bases points on a year-over-year basis. Foreign currency translation decreased our gross profit by $20 million in the quarter but had a small positive effect of 20 bases points on our gross margin percentage.

  • The benefits of our CAM restructuring added another 65 bases points to our gross margin in Q3, 2015. The roughly 100 bases points of remaining gross margin improvement was primarily the result of higher volume in a more profitable product mix in the quarter. BioSpin had a very strong quarter of gross margin performance due to a number of factors including the positive effect of the restructuring and operational improvements we completed over the last couple of years.

  • We also benefited from earlier than expected revenue recognition on some systems with higher gross margins in the quarter. Our Q3 2015 operating expenses were down approximately $20 million year-over-year. Approximately $15 million of this decrease was related to foreign currency translation with a remaining decline primarily related to our CAM restructuring. Careful management of our fixed cost structure has resulted in more pull-through of gross profit increases to our operating profit.

  • Non-GAAP operating margin improved 470 bases points compared to Q3 2014.

  • In addition to the higher gross margin, another factor in driving our higher operating margins was an R&D expense decline of 130 bases points year-over-year. CAM and FX represented most of this increase. But we also selectively cut back R&D project spending in our NANO and BioSpin groups. Our Q3 2015 non-GAAP tax rate was 32.2% which was 5.2 percentage points higher than the previous year's third quarter, and this was caused by a change in our jurisdictional mix including an expected decrease in US profits as a result of the weakness in the NANO group.

  • Our full year 2015 non-GAAP tax rate is now expected to be between 24% and 25%. Finally, non-GAAP EPS of $0.19 represents a $0.05 or 36% increase from Q3 2014 despite facing a $0.02 headwind from foreign exchanges. On slide 14, I show a reconciliation of our GAAP to non-GAAP financial results for the third quarter. In Q3, 2015, we excluded $24.6 million of operating costs from our non-GAAP results. This was a decrease of $6.4 million in Q3 2014. This decrease is driven by lower restructuring in other costs.

  • I would also note that our non-GAAP interest in other income and expense net line increased by $2.4 million year-over-year as a result of higher FX foreign currency transaction losses. On slide 15, I show the revenue bridge for the first nine months of 2015. We reported an organic year over year revenue increase of 1.9% after the first nine months of 2015. Changes in foreign currency translation lowered our revenues by 11.1% or approximately $145 million with a weaker Euro driving most of the year-over-year difference.

  • On slide 16, I show our non-GAAP P&L for the first nine months of 2015. Our non-GAAP gross margins have improved by 120 bases points compared to the first nine months last year. The gross margin improvement through the first nine months is a similar story to what we saw in Q3 2015. From a group perspective, CALID drove most of this improvement as savings from our CAM restructuring added 65 bases points to the gross margin improvement through the first nine months of the year. Changes from foreign currency rates added another 20 bases points of improvement with a remaining increase related to a more profitable revenue mix.

  • The CAM restructuring in FX represented all of the $67 million year-over-year decrease in operating expenses in the first nine months of 2015. Our non-GAAP operating margin increased by 220 bases points year-over-year, though the first nine months of 2015 with CAM representing a little over 100 bases points of this increase and roughly 100 bases points coming from fundamental improvements in the rest of our businesses. On the bottom line, we reported $0.51 in non-GAAP EPS which was $0.05 or 11% higher in the first nine months of 2014. Primarily due to the strong operating earnings growth in Q3 2015. Changes in foreign currency translation rates reduced our EPS by $0.07 whereas the absence of the divested CAM businesses increased EPS by $0.07 as well.

  • On slide 17, we show the GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation for the first nine months of 2015. We excluded operating costs of $56.5 million compared to $59.8 million in the first nine months of 2014. Lower restructuring costs were offset by higher other costs in the first nine months of 2015. The biggest drivers at the higher other costs are related to the outsourcing of our pension plan in Switzerland and higher IT cost related to our ERP financial consolidation and human resource transformation system initiative.

  • On slide 18, I show our cash flow statement for the third quarter of 2015. We generated free cash flow of $44.7 million in Q3 compared with $3.6 million in the same period in 2014. Which is a $41 million improvement. Higher GAAP net income together with lower restructuring costs lower depreciation and the amortization and improved working capital efficiency all contributed to the free cash flow increase.

  • Also contributing to the increase were approximately $12 million of tax refunds resulting from settled audits in Germany. Our cash conversion cycle improved by 19 days compared to Q3 2014. This was comprised of the following. DIO decreased by 24 days to 206 days. Our DSO decreased by four days to 56 days. And this was an improvement that was partially offset by a reduction in our days payable outstanding which totalled 38 days compared to 48 days in Q3 2014. Overall, we are pleased with the improvement in our working capital but we do have further room for improvement.

  • During the third quarter, we repurchased 395,000 shares as part of our share buy-back program. On a year-to-date basis, we have repurchased approximately 1.25 million shares. Now turning to guidance, I show Bruker's updated guidance for this full year of 2015. As a result of our performance in Q3 2015, we are increasing our guidance for non-GAAP operating margin expansion and for EPS. We continue to expect to generate organic revenue growth of approximately 1% but with our year-to-date profitability improvement, we now expect to increase our non-GAAP operating margin by 150 bases points or more compared to our previous guidance of 100 bases points or more.

  • We now expect that our non-GAAP EPS will be in the range of $0.75 to $0.80 compared to our previous guidance of approximately $0.75. We expect changes in foreign currency exchange rates to reduce our reported revenue by approximately 10% for the full year in 2015 which refines our earlier guidance of 9% to 10%, adverse effect. This will generate a headwind to our non-GAAP EPS of roughly $0.10 for the full year in 2015. Our currency assumptions include a yen to US dollar rate of 1.2 and a US dollar to Euro rate of 1.12 which were the spot rates at the end of Q3 2015.

  • We expect fiscal year 2015 CAM related revenues to decrease by $50 million in 2015 compared to 2014. As I mentioned earlier, we now expect the non-GAAP tax rate to be between 24% and 25% for the full year in 2015. So I will close by reiterating that the third quarter was a very good quarter of overall financial performance improvements for the Company. The strong out performance in Q3 put us in an excellent position to deliver our full year of attractive operating margin earnings growth and cash flow improvement and commitments. With that, I would like to turn the call back over to Joshua to start the Q&A session.

  • Joshua Young - VP of IR

  • Amy, could you please assemble the Q and A roster?

  • Operator

  • Certainly. (Operator Instructions).

  • Our first question comes from Steve Willoughby at Cleveland Research.

  • Steve Willoughby - Analyst

  • Hi, good evening, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Frank, you went from a mid single-digit year-over-year decline in your BioSpin business last quarter to calling it out as an area of strength here in the third quarter. I was just wondering given your relatively positive commentary regarding orders the last few quarters, should we expect the NMR business to kind of turn the corner now and expect the more positive results to continue in the fourth quarter and going into next year?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Yes, Steve. I do think there's a sustainable improvement in NMR with orders for the full year this year expected to be stronger than last year which are pretty weak orders as you recall. In the first half of this year we had some execution issues and that Bruker BioSpin business that I think we've fixed to a great extent and clearly at least we made very significant improvements in Q3. I think with healthy orders in NMR this year compared to last year and improved execution, I think we're on a good path to hopefully be able to call that in another one or two quarters a sustainable improvement. I'm optimistic here.

  • Steve Willoughby - Analyst

  • Just one follow up on that, Frank. In regards to the strength of the order you're seeing at NMR, I know you've been calling it out as healthy for the past several quarters, was the strength in orders in NMR any different here in the third quarter as compared to what you saw in the first or second quarter?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • You know, the NMR orders fluctuate even more from quarter-to-quarter. That's even lumpier. Q3 orders were excellent but there also was an ultra-high field order that you recall, we had a press release in some of our ultra-high field orders, some of which won't get delivered and turned into revenue for several more years. But overall, it's been, you know, for the year, it's, you know, healthy single digits healthy for the full year. In any given quarter, it goes up and down. I wouldn't want to comment quarterly on BioSpin orders because they fluctuate too much. For the year they are healthy and as we said before and this implies single digits.

  • Steve Willoughby - Analyst

  • Thanks very much. Okay. Thanks, Frank.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Brandon Couillard from Jefferies.

  • Brandon Couillard - Analyst

  • Thanks, good afternoon. Frank, in terms of the I guess the more balanced second half revenue cadence here, was that largely a function of luck or better management of the cadence and how much control can you really exert on this dynamic to perhaps level it out more so in the future?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • We worked very, very hard on it, Brandon, and then we got lucky. Sometimes you work very hard and you don't get lucky and things fall out. But we worked very hard.

  • We made a very concerted effort to do better than our previous internal forecasts for Q3 and we succeeded. So, you know, that was good because I was not comfortable with the way Q3 and Q4 were shaping up with, you know, Q4 is always the strongest quarter of the year. That will never change but it was too much with, you know, would have come in from Q4 and I wanted to achieve more in Q3 already. But, keep in mind that Q3 was a mix, you know, there were some favorable mix. There was some favorable timing for which we work very hard. But there also were improving fundamentals. It's really a mix of those three things coming together.

  • Brandon Couillard - Analyst

  • Thanks. And a quick one for Tony. Could you give us the impact of currency in terms of operating private dollars in the third quarter?

  • Tony Mattacchione - SVP, Interim CFO

  • Sure. Actually, let me get that to you later.

  • Brandon Couillard - Analyst

  • Super, thanks.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Tim Evans from Wells Fargo.

  • Tim Evans - Analyst

  • Thank you. Frank, on the preclinical imaging business, you said it was weak and you decided to take a restructuring so I'm assuming that you are anticipating that weakness will continue. Can you talk about what's going on in that business a little bit more broadly?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • If you follow our press releases you'll notice that in the third quarter we had some of the most significant product introductions in that. We have a new preclinical tech spec system, they call it the Elvira SI, which we think is going to be performance leading.

  • We came out with a cryogen free (inaudible) magnet and an MRI test combination and also optical molecular imaging, a new system. So major, major product introductions in PCI in Q3 but of course you don't get orders and revenue from that yet. That's going to take probably a couple of quarters before that begins to ramp up. So we're not only doing restructuring although we did some restructuring or we're in the process of doing some restructuring in some of the optical molecular imaging product line which we're streamlining and integrating into another R&D side of the factory.

  • Tim Evans - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • I don't know in I answered all of your questions but that's sort of the big picture.

  • Tim Evans - Analyst

  • That is helpful. I just wanted to squeeze one in on your margin guidance. You said greater than 150 bases points of expansion. If I triangulate on revenue and EPS, I could get to a margin number that's meaningfully more than 150 bases points of expansion. I want to make sure that I'm calculating that correctly and there's nothing below the line that would kind of maybe make the margin a little bit lower and still allow you to come in to your EPS guidance?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • There's still a lot of risk, you know, every fourth quarter, if the fourth quarter will lead by a significant, margin, well, sorry tried not to use the word margin here, but the fourth quarter will be the biggest quarter of the year in every respect and so therefore there's risk if some sites are not ready or some magnets don't make it to field. So, I think the 150 guidance or greater than 150 is reasonable. There is upside to that but there's also risk.

  • Tony Mattacchione - SVP, Interim CFO

  • Tim, there's nothing below the line, noteworthy and both Frank and I had mentioned in our comments, we had very positive mix in Q3. We don't expect that mix to continue in Q4 and we do have some lower margin business that we expect to revenue in Q4 as well. So we don't expect that mix to continue. If I may just to go back to Brandon's question, the FX impact on operating profit was about $5 million in the third quarter.

  • Tim Evans - Analyst

  • $5 million negative?

  • Tony Mattacchione - SVP, Interim CFO

  • Negative.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Derek de Bruin and blank of America Merrill Lynch.

  • Mike Ruskin - Analyst

  • Good morning. It's actually Mike Ruskin calling in for Derek. Thanks for taking my question. Kind of a follow-up on something that's been asked before about the third quarter, fourth quarter split. As you as you mentioned most of your second half strength usually comes from 4Q. Your alluded to that in some guidance earlier this year but today you also mention that you saw some strong sales in CALID with explosive trade detection which was non-recurring and then you had some orders in BioSpin move up from 4Q and, you know, those two groups earlier performance. Could you provide some color on how much effect you think those two factors will have on 4Q and whether or not we should expect similar ramp that we've seen in prior years especially give the difficult comp you have with the 2014?

  • Tony Mattacchione - SVP, Interim CFO

  • Mike, we just mentioned, Q3 we had the timing of Q3 there was more acceptances that we expected. Those won't continue into Q4 and so we benefited from the timing. Year-over-year Q4 is not expected to be much higher or much lower as well. So that will play an effect on the sequential comparison.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Being a little less dependent on Q4 is a healthy thing. I would like to achieve that in every year. Q4 will still be a very strong quarter and I think you can, you know, we're giving guidance for the full year. We're reporting the first nine months so you can, you know, triangulate, you know, what we're thinking about the fourth quarter. But as always, keep in mind that for Bruker, you know, even though we, you know, have better and better tools to predict, there's still, you know, a plus/minus $15 million type of uncertainty and that's very fundamental because we deal with bigger systems and customer acceptances and sites that can or may or may not be ready. So I think this is, you know, reasonable guidance.

  • And, you know, I think that, you know, it makes still for a very strong Q4 but I'm glad that we moved a little bit more into Q3, otherwise Q4 we would have relied too much or Q4. I think it there's really all there is to if. It's not that all of a sudden Q3 is stronger than Q4 but I think it's just a healthier sequence of events as we now envision it.

  • Operator

  • Next question is from Doug Schenkel from Cowan and Company.

  • Doug Schenkel - Analyst

  • Good afternoon, guys and thank you for taking my question. I only have one but it does have four parts. Related to NMR order improvements and the healthy order bookings, 1, was the momentum pretty balanced across higher field products and lower field products where your major competitor exited?2, anything notable in terms of geographic strengths or weaknesses? 3, is it too early to determine if improvements in academic government budgets freeing up is helping order trends? And 4, anything available data-wise that would demonstrate that some of your newer product launchers are starting to have an impact on driving a replacement cycle?Thank you.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • We love your one single question, Doug. So NMR orders geographically were pretty balanced so there was strength everywhere in the quarter. Year-to-date Europe was quite strong. NMR orders ultra high fields was almost dormant last year. It has recovered a little bit but it's not at its usual strength, so new orders for gigahertz systems and gigahertz class systems as these are depending on field strength, 10 to 20 million type of funding. That takes longer so we don't have anything under our belt yet in that direction from new orders. There's 1.2 gigahertz order that we added in Frankfurt in the third quarter.

  • Sorry, I don't want to skip that but that's just been in the works and in the pipeline for a very long time and finally got funded. So ultra high field I would say partial recovery compared to 2014 but not as strong as we had seen some time ago. And quite honestly not as strong as we might expect hopefully in 2016/ 2017 as the gigahertz class NMR systems hopefully will generate along with the new applications particularly for intrinsically disorder proteins which I think will be very important but that has not materialized into orders yet.

  • Academic trends more or less as they have been, you know, Japan's still weak in the Middle East, Africa, weak in BioSpin and Europe and the US relatively healthy and China not bad. New products, yes, some of the new products that don't require very large budgets like the fusion solution combining NMR and high resolution accurate mass spectrometry. Clearly we're seeing some initial traction or things like the food screener modules for the wine profiler, honey profiler. These things are getting traction. Whereas as you expect things that cost $10 million or more, people are excited about them. People see the scientific need but the fundraising there takes much longer. I hope that has addressed all four parts of your question.

  • Doug Schenkel - Analyst

  • That was perfect, Frank, thank you so much.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • You're welcome, Doug.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Ross Muken at Evercore ISI.

  • Ross Muken - Analyst

  • Good afternoon, guys. So obviously when Charlie departed there was a lot of concern relative at least on the investor side to, you know, sort of the management team and the like even though many of you have been together for a while. But then you added two really impressive board members which you mentioned and then, you know, you brought on Rene not long ago and clearly, you're a much, much stronger organization at least optically to us. From an operations standpoint, is there any way you can give us some, I know not everyone's been there for quite a long time yet but any way you can give us some anecdotal stories or examples where, you know, these three individuals that came from obviously much larger and diversified companies that had maybe a bit, you know, better of an operating trajectory historically, give us examples how they've already started to input maybe to the business and how, you know, you've incorporated some of the ideas to sort of helping drive what's seemingly been better results here in the business?

  • Obviously a lot of this has been many years in the making. I'm just trying to get a sense for some of the new voices.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Okay. I'll start with Rene because this is his really his day four. He's my kind of guy. He started working on Sunday on November 1. And he had an entire Saturday of vacation between jobs. So I'm optimistic that he will be a hard worker. He's very experienced guy and, you know, he's very deep technical background in innovation and R&D experience including R&D management but he really has outstanding operational experience. And operational defined very broadly, not only manufacturing or logistics or procurement. So, I think that's one of the areas, as you know our operational and commercial excellence initiatives. The lean initiative you're never done. We've implemented some of that but, you know, he has the experience that he shared with me that you can really do round after round after round and you get a little better each time and so driving that relentlessly along with innovation. And he already visited his first four customers in Cambridge and Boston this morning. Those are the anecdotes for Rene but it's very early days so we'll have to observe that.

  • Herman Reckart on the board, he obviously has so much experience that immediately applicable to our preclinical imaging business because he did the clinical imaging at Siemens as one of the world leaders. And so he has a lot of insight there from technology to trends to funding to well, patient reimbursement, doesn't affect us. So we're learning a lot from him about, you know, what to do and what not to do. Very valuable. And, you know, he's just been at one board meeting so far. It's early days. John Ornell is very active. He's sort of my partner for the CFO search and I think we're also learning a lot of things about long-term tax planning, things that won't have an effect even on next year very much but over time can add up. So, you know, he's an audit committee member. We're learning a lot from him. Also on systems implementations.

  • So incredibly valuable sounding board. It helps that he lives locally here so we get to see him not only at board meetings but sort of he's in some ways coaching us a little bit on the number of topics. And those are my anecdotes for the moment. It's all early days for all three of them.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Jonathan Groberg at UBS.

  • Jon Groberg - Analyst

  • Thanks. Could you...?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Very poor audio, Jonathan. Anything you can do about that?

  • Jon Groberg - Analyst

  • Sorry. Can you hear me okay?

  • Tony Mattacchione - SVP, Interim CFO

  • Jon, you're better now. Go ahead, you can ask your question.

  • Jon Groberg - Analyst

  • Okay. I was just saying geographically obviously Japan and China are two significant marks for you. Can you maybe just give a little more color what you're seeing in those geographies?

  • Joshua Young - VP of IR

  • Jon, this is Joshua. Last quarter we talked about Japan being a point of weakness in the business. We saw those trends continue in the third quarter in Japan, we saw weak revenue and weak orders with reasonable declines. In terms of China, in China we had a slow start to the year. But, you know, I would say we certainly are seeing mixed results in some businesses. We're doing quite well in China, for example, Deltonics, and others not so well. The way that will shake out is we still expect growth in both revenue and new order bookings for the full year in China.

  • Jon Groberg - Analyst

  • Okay. And also I may have missed it. Can you give some color on the multi-task or the (inaudible) business and what you're expecting there over the next bit?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Yeah. This is Frank. So that continues to be healthy even in Europe where of course the market we've been in the market much longer. The after market business is growing very rapidly. We're expecting for the full year healthy growth in the Americas which is what we expected because we now have as far as early in the year we had our second FDA claim accepted and in China we've seen very healthy market development year-to-date and expect more of that as we also got Chinese FDA clearance late last year. So particular strength in China and the US and very satisfactory in general and also as predicted, particular strength in our rapidly growing from a smaller base but rapidly growing after market business for the multi (inaudible).

  • Jon Groberg - Analyst

  • And Frank, could you quantify this just how big that business is now or how big you expect it to be by the end of 2015 here?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Very broadly in the $80 million to $100 million range. I don't think we want to just go with exact figures, nor I do have it at my fingertips.

  • Jon Groberg - Analyst

  • Okay. Thanks.

  • Operator

  • Next question is from Tycho Peterson from JP Morgan.

  • Tycho Peterson - Analyst

  • The positive price mix dynamic you called out, was that specific to NMR or are you seeing an ability to extract broader price increases across the portfolio?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • It was specific to NMR. We had a few high margin shipments some of which, you know, benefited from timing if you look at we had lower NMR gross profit shipments in the previous third quarter. So most of the product mix affects came from NMR.

  • Tycho Peterson - Analyst

  • And then on the weakness and nano, can you maybe just Frank talk a little bit about how you think about the cycle here? How long do you think the order book remains depressed and with the bolt-on you did there does that smooth out a little bit of cyclicality for that business?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Yes. I think that business, that's an ongoing business. They're not only depending on the cycle but also on technology adoption and technology adoption and first pilot systems. That's a steadier process. Of course what we really would like to see is the technology adoption where we think we're in very, very good position for the next decade quite candidly. Even without having to wait for a decade as we go from 14 to 10 NANO meter, eventually 7 and 5 and of course the trend towards 3D fin/fet structures in memory and processors is ongoing already anyway.

  • But the cycle to build capacity that has not really been satisfactory for anybody in the Metrology business but we do know it's coming back. It's an unusually long down cycle. But we're kind of feel good about that first of all, we don't have too much exposure as a Company overall. We do get the technology adoption part throughout and we're all patiently waiting for the cycle to pick up. That will be the gravy. But in the meantime, you know, that's the situation.

  • I think some of the other industrial markets you're not surprised to hear, you know, sometimes they're elements of the "Wall Street Journal" business, that's what you read about so they didn't get stronger in the last three to six months. Keep in mind that NANO also has made a very conscious effort to have more of its mix from academic research and biology and life science research particularly the fluorescent microscopy, fluorescent microscopy super resolution and multi-photon, those acquisitions that we did in the previous year, that's getting into gear. So the mix of NANO is also changing along the way in a way that in some areas where we see favorable funding trends from the brain initiative or from investments in cell biology. So it's a mixed bag.

  • It's not just all depending on steel or metals or cement or so although there's some elements of that. We are becoming more diversified and in some areas in addition to the cycle which we can't control and which isn't that favorable, we're on technology adoption curves where we're almost a must on that adoption curve and we're branching out more into life sciences. So it's strategically changing over time from the NANO that perhaps you remember from two or three years ago. I hope that helps. That may have been too much color.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Isaac Ro at Goldman Sachs.

  • Isaac Ro - Analyst

  • Good afternoon and thank you for taking the question here. Frank, maybe just a high level question on the CFO search. Could you maybe giving us an update on, you know, the progress there in terms of the pipeline kind of, the qualities of the candidates you're currently evaluating, maybe when we might know a little more there? Thank you.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • It's a very active search and, you know, we're clearly looking at candidates and we're getting to see some good candidates. We have good external and an internal candidate. We believe that, you know, we're going to make a decision most likely in the first quarter of next year. And at this point, it's just, you know, an intense process that's proceeding and so I would think that we most likely will make a decision in the first quarter of next year.

  • Isaac Ro - Analyst

  • Great. And then just one product specific question on BioTyper. I think you mentioned in the prepared comments that it was strong. I'm wondering that you could put a little more color what it contributed to growth? And then, more importantly, where we are in the product life cycle? I gather we're somewhat early days based on I think our last conversation at ASM this year but curious as you think about in baseball terms what inning we're in, and what kind of channel investment you need to make to realize the opportunity? Thank you would be great.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • For the BioTyper we don't want to get too granular in giving its growth rate and stuff but it has healthy growth rate. It has and has had for a number of years the highest growth rates within, you know, the Daltonics business as you know and we don't see that trend changing dramatically even though it's a larger business. So the growth rates are good and we also said directionally in the past and that continues to be true that it's gross margins are above, you know, CALID average or Bruker average. To the further question, you know, I think it depends a little bit what geography we're talking about in Europe, maybe we're in the 5th inning and something like that and there's a lot more established.

  • We're much further along after market is starting to play a role in, you know, first customers are also experimenting with the presently research use only, not approved yet. Resistance testing and approaches to maybe even do susceptibility testing on that platform which might add, you know, another S-curve to the identification capabilities eventually. That's early days. I think in the US, we're perhaps in the third inning and in China in the second. There it's still early days and still a lot, a lot of potential. I hope that's helpful.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Dan Arias at Citi.

  • Brian Kipp - Analyst

  • This is Brian Kipp on behalf of Dan. Just a question on pacing around the quarter. Just the color you gave on the implied growth rate. How did the October pace and in conjunction with that, did you expect the $6 million (inaudible) to come forward in the back half the year?Can you remind me there?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • We expected that in the second half of the year and during the quarter it became clear that it's going to move out of Q3 and into Q4.

  • Brian Kipp - Analyst

  • And the pacing in fourth quarter in the sense of, you know, I know you guys are still working through your ERP system and trying to have advisability and month end. How is it pacing so far in fourth quarter? Just trying to get a sense of that plus or minus fourth quarter. Just what you're thinking.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • I think we find out that the plus or minus 15 in the last three or four days of each quarter. It's literally there are so many installations and acceptances. I have no increased visibility and I wouldn't have it internally even by middle of December. It's literally whether or not we may exceed by up to $15 million. That's at the high end the variability or it might be lower.

  • That really gets determined in many ways fundamentally and even with better systems in sort of the last week of each quarter. That's no different in Q4 and that actually would be more or less also true in a Q3 or with Q2. So the pacing is on track. There's nothing remarkable there in Q4.

  • Brian Kipp - Analyst

  • And just a higher level question, kind of more around strategy. You talked at length in regards to the rationalization of your portfolio, right-sizing the business and streamlining the Company. You know, these tangible changes are helpful but just thinking where you guys are going forward in the sense of product portfolio kind of dynamic, do you have any interest in moving further downstream or do you think it's going to be five to ten years from now the identity of Bruker is still going to be a leading kind of more upstream research instrument provider?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Well, I wouldn't want to use the category downstream or upstream. But more we are looking for defense high margin areas where we can be one of the leading players and that can be a $10 million ultra-high field NMR system that's clearly what you call very, very high end and perhaps upstream that can be, a 50,000 Euro or dollar explosive (inaudible) that has new libraries and technology that goes far beyond what generally has been found at airports before.

  • I would say we're not only a high end only company, we are looking for high performance can sometimes come in innovative small packages or in user-friendly packages with great content like the multi-biotype. That's not the most high end (inaudible) because of the libraries and assets and consumables that come with it. So we're much less niche high end company today but we still look to leverage performance for good margins and that can be really at either end of the market wherever we think we can find, you know, an interesting profit and margin pools where we think we can have defensible positions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions). Our next question is from Brian Brockmeier at Cantor Fitzgerald.

  • Bryan Brokmeier - Analyst

  • Hi, good evening. Since introducing the TissueTyper, how has the development of the library been?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Very early days. Very early days, Brian. So, you know, there's some early adopters that are not ordering this system and they will all be, in most cases, they will all be collaboration partners. This in some ways will be a team sport, not unlike for the multi-biotype where there's no way that we can develop all the contents or library in-house so we rely on many different collaborators who explore and discover new areas and then, you know, we help organize validation if they think they've discovered something, you've got do it in multiple systems in multiple labs.

  • So it's very early days. But in the meantime even though there's no validated essays yes, it's a system that generates a lot of excitement because of its incredible tissue or anatomical pathology research capabilities. So we benefit initially from the research oriented customers.

  • Bryan Brokmeier - Analyst

  • In the quarter I guess really over the last couple quarters, were any of the improvements that you're seeing, were any of the improvements that you're seeing that have allowed customers to take delivery from the fourth quarter into the third quarter, is any of that a result of things you've done the year date or was it really just up to the customer and the customer readiness?

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Very strong execution in Q3. We really worked it very hard and, you know, that means you lose some customers because they're not ready and you work with others and you just make sure that we don't add to it by incomplete shipment or quality or not properly planning our resources. So I really think that the BioSpin colleagues and others in CALID and elsewhere, I think they just, I think our execution is getting better and better. I think our management processes and information systems are getting better. They're not perfect yet but I think there's a lot of improvement and it's pretty steady.

  • Tony Mattacchione - SVP, Interim CFO

  • And just one point of detail here. It's not that customers are taking shipments. It's that we're completing installations of systems earlier than expected and they're meeting the specs as well.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Thank you.

  • Bryan Brokmeier - Analyst

  • Okay, great, thank you.

  • Operator

  • The next question is from Paul Knight at Janney Montgomery Scott.

  • Bill March - Analyst

  • This is actually Bill March on for Paul. I was just hoping you could provide a lilt more color on the recent Jordan Valley acquisition and how we should think about the pacing and/or lumpiness of revenue within that segment? Thank you.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Sure. We've given some color on the rationale behind the Jordan Valley technology, the x-ray Metrology technology that they're pursuing. We think they can strengthen that even further with some of the component and other technologies that we can contribute so there's some nice technical synergy's. There's also some, you know, sales and customer support and service synergy's between their global set-up and our global set-up. That's all coming together nicely. You know, we have given some guidance that we think this will be, you know, that their revenue next year might be somewhere around $25 million. What they contribute a remainder of this year will be negligible but what they contribute next year might be around $25 million. We expect this to be $0.01 to $0.02 accretive to non-GAAP EPS next year.

  • Bill March - Analyst

  • Just on a quick follow-up, just thinking about the revenue pacing, do you think that they'll have kind of a consistent mix or do you think that it could be kind of quarter-to-quarter you could see lumpier revenues? Thanks.

  • Frank Laukien - President, CEO

  • Well, since they have high ticket items, I'm sure that particular business will have, you know, lumpiness. No question about it. But, you know, the more different businesses we have, you know, these lumpiness are not in phase so to speak. So within the much larger revenue stream of Bruker, I don't think this will materially or perhaps in any way increase our lumpiness overall. Stand-alone business, yes, but at the Bruker level, the lumpiness doesn't make such a big difference.

  • Bill March - Analyst

  • Great. Thanks for your help. Have a good evening.

  • Operator

  • That is all the time allotted for the call. I would like to turn the conference back over to Joshua Young for any closing remarks.

  • Joshua Young - VP of IR

  • I want to thank everyone for joining us this evening. If you're interested in meeting with Bruker management we'll be presenting at the Citi and Credit Suisse healthcare conferences during the fourth quarter in the JPMorgan Health Conference in San Francisco in January 2016. We also invite you to visit us at our headquarters in Bell Rica, Massachusetts. Thank you for your attention and have a nice night.

  • Operator

  • The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.