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Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Brookline Bancorp, Inc. Q2 2020 Earnings Conference call and webcast. (Operator Instructions) Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Ms. Marissa Martin of Brookline Bancorp. Ms. Martin, the floor is yours, ma'am.
Marissa Martin - Associate General Counsel
Thank you, Mike, and good afternoon, everyone. Yesterday, we issued our earnings release and presentation, which is available on the Investor Relations page of our website, brooklinebancorp.com and has been filed with the SEC. This afternoon's call will be hosted by Brookline Bancorp's executive team, Paul A. Perrault and Carl M. Carlson. Before we begin, please note this presentation is being done from several different locations. So if there is a delay or technical problem, we appreciate your patience and understanding. This call may also contain forward-looking statements with respect to the financial condition, results of operation and business of Brookline Bancorp. Please refer to Page 2 of our earnings presentation for our forward-looking statement disclaimer. Also, please refer to our other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which contain risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Any references made during this presentation to non-GAAP measures are only made to assist you in understanding Brookline Bancorp's results and performance trends and should not be relied on as financial measures of actual results or future predictions. For a comparison and reconciliation to GAAP earnings, please see our earnings release.
If you can join us on Page 3 of the earnings presentation, I'm pleased to introduce Brookline Bancorp's President and CEO, Paul Perrault.
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
Thanks, Marissa, and good afternoon all. I am cautiously optimistic the positive trends we are seeing related to the pandemic in Massachusetts, Rhode Island and New York will continue. In both Massachusetts and Rhode Island, most areas are in Phase III of the reopening process and everyday economic activity seems to be slowly recovering. The health and safety of our employees and their families is our priority, and we continue to employ our work from home and bank by appointment protocols. We continue to see traffic increases in our branches and offices while maintaining our bank by appointment strategy, limiting the number of people in the branch at any one-time for the safety of our employees as well as customers, and this has been well received by customers.
At our headquarters here in Boston, as well as our operations centers, approximately 70% of the company's non-retail employees continue to work remotely, minimizing potential exposure and ensuring social distancing. Our bankers were quite busy in the second quarter, providing PPP loans and loan payment deferrals. As we enter the third quarter, I'm happy to report those attentions will now be focused on returning most of the Phase I customers to paying status and assisting PPP customers through the SBA loan forgiveness process when it is available. We will continue to work with a small segment of our customers who are still facing financial challenges related to that shutdown and may require additional loan payment deferrals, which we refer to as Phase II.
By the way, I want to publicly recognize our amazing employees who have been incredible supporting our customers as well as each other. We had a solid quarter of earnings of $19.6 million or $0.25 per share, driven by a lower provision for loan loss as we continued to build on the substantial reserve position we had established in the first quarter. I'm also pleased to report the Board approved another $0.115 dividend to stockholders, and that will be paid in August.
I will now turn you over to Carl, who will review the company's second quarter results.
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
Thank you, Paul. On Slide 4, we have provided summary income statements for the quarter, prior quarter and prior year. We recognized net income of $19.6 million compared to a loss of $17.3 million in Q1, driven by stable revenues, lower expenses and a lower provision for credit losses. Revenues were relatively flat for the quarter as net interest income increased and fee income declined. We track debit card usage and interchange income on a weekly basis as compared with the same period in the prior year. Initially, we saw a very sharp drop-off of over 40% as the pandemic hit and businesses shut down. Weekly activity has steadily improved and is now nearly flat with last year.
Fees related to customer back-to-back interest rate swaps were also significantly lower as commercial real estate originations declined sharply. Operating costs were lower due to seasonality, the first dip switch bank consolidation and deferred costs associated with PPP loan originations. This was offset by higher FDIC insurance expense as credits were exhausted during Q1.
Our pretax, pre-provision net revenue improved $1.1 million from Q1 and $400,000 from last year. We continue to build our reserve for loan losses with provision for credit losses of $5.3 million. After taxes, we earned $19.6 million or $0.25 per share.
As illustrated on Page 5, net interest income increased $2.6 million, driven by average earning asset growth of $870 million as our net interest margin compressed 22 basis points. The yield on the loan portfolio declined 46 basis points as the full impact of the decline in market rates in Q1 was realized as well as the continued decline in LIBOR rates during Q2. Overall, our cost of interest-bearing liabilities declined 38 basis points, which consisted of a 33-basis point decline in the cost of interest-bearing deposits and a 74-basis point decline in the cost of borrowings.
If you can follow me to Slide 6, you can reference our comparative summary balance sheet. In the second quarter, the company grew to $9.1 billion in assets, with loan growth of $585 million, and deposits grew $550 million. The allowance for loan losses also grew $7 million and represents 175 basis points of loans, excluding PPP loans. We also shifted some of our on-balance sheet liquidity from cash to securities as we continue to ensure a prudent position in this environment to meet the financial needs of our clients.
Slide 7 reflects the growth and composition of our significant loan and deposit categories. The second quarter was driven by our efforts to help customers participate in the SBA Paycheck Protection Program. Of the $585 million in loan growth, $566 million was a result of PPP. We also had $76 million of growth in commercial real estate and $31 million in equipment finance, offset by declines in C&I and consumer loans.
Deposit growth was also largely driven by the funding of the PPP loans into customer accounts. We continue to see customer preferences shift from CDs to money markets due to the added flexibility and low interest rate environment.
If you follow me to Slide 8, we have provided an update to our PPP participation. The company-funded its first PPP loan on Friday, April 3, and at the end of June, had nearly 3,000 loans totaling $566 million. We have collected $19.4 million in fees from the SBA, which net of origination costs will be recognized over the life of the loan. We do expect a large percentage of these loans to be forgiven under the program over the next few quarters, with the remaining portions of the loans paid over their original 24-month term.
On Slide 9, we are providing insight into our loan payment deferment activity and expectations. We've provided 90-day relief on loan payments worth $1.2 billion or 16% of total loans as of June 30. Based on loan officer communications with borrowers, we expect 70% of these loans to return to payment status at the end of the initial deferral period, what we call Phase I. We currently expect $335 million or 5% of our portfolio will seek an additional 90-day deferral as part of Phase II. We want to emphasize these are estimates which could materially change based on many factors. At this time, these short-term modifications have had no impact on our internal credit ratings related to these credits or accrual of interest or accounting for these assets.
On Slide 10, deferred payment information is provided by selected segments. Some of these segments are relatively more significant or unique to us, such as apartments, Dunkin' Donuts, laundry and tow. More pandemic sensitive segments such as retail, fitness and hotels are provided separately. Many of you have followed us for years, and know we are not active in the energy, airline, cruise line or syndicated lending.
Our partners are the largest component of our investment commercial real estate portfolio. There was little need for initial deferments, and nearly all our clients which participated in Phase I have indicated they will be returning to paying status at the end of the 90-day period. This is also true for our health care segment. While many of our Dunkin' Donuts clients requested deferrals, most will be returning to paying status at the end of Phase 1.
Turning to our National Equipment Finance segments, laundry and tow, over half of our clients requested Phase I deferrals with most indicating a return to payment status. 10% to 12% are currently expected to participate in Phase II. The pandemic sensitive areas of retail, fitness equipment, hotel and food will continue to need some level of assistance. Of the $878 million in these portfolios, we expect $202 million to participate in Phase 2 at this time, the most impacted areas being hotel and our national fitness equipment business. I want to highlight again, these are well-run businesses, and were all in good standing before the impacts of the pandemic hit the economy.
As shown on Slide 11, the company continues to be very well capitalized, exceeding all regulatory requirements as well as our own internal policies and operating targets. At June 30, we had a capital buffer of 2.6% or $184 million over regulatory well capitalized standards.
Slide 12 provides a history of our regular dividend payout, which continued this quarter as the Board approved a quarterly dividend of $0.115 per share, which was paid on August 21 to stockholders of record on August 7. If our dividend remains constant for the remainder of the year, full year per share dividends would be $0.46, a 4.5% increase over 2019 and currently approximates a 4.8% yield.
This concludes my formal comments, and I'll turn it back to Paul.
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
Thank you, Carl. Now joining us for the question-and-answer session is Robert Rose, our Chief Credit Officer. We will now, Mike, open it up for questions.
Operator
(Operator Instructions) And the first question we have will come from Mark Fitzgibbon of Piper Sandler.
Mark Thomas Fitzgibbon - MD & Head of FSG Research
First question I had, I wondered if you could share with us some of the details on the $176 million of fitness credits on the sort of the macro lease credit set to Bank of Rhode Island there. Could you give us some metrics on the portfolio?
M. Robert Rose - Chief Credit Officer
Sure, Mark. Bob Rose. First off, I'd tell you that $175 million is the whole macro lease portfolio. The fitness, pure fitness is less than that, maybe $160 million. But it is comprised of about 35% Planet Fitness franchises, and most of those are multiple store operators. About 15% of it comes from YMCAs, YWCAs. About 30% would come from homeowners' associations, exercise facilities in business parks, office parks, office buildings and schools with a little bit of Gold's Gyms throwing in 30%. The remainder, 20%, would be independent operators, 1, 2, 3-store operations.
Mark Thomas Fitzgibbon - MD & Head of FSG Research
Okay. Great. And then secondly, I guess, sort of a macro question, Bob. Of the $335 million in loans that you're expecting will stay on deferral, do most of those in your estimation have the ability to return to full paying, say at the end of the year? Or are some of these companies, it's hard to envision that they're going to get back to that place, and therefore there's a very different conversation at the end of the year with them?
M. Robert Rose - Chief Credit Officer
It's very early to answer that with precision. It is our expectation that the majority of them will be able to come back to full payment. As time passes, Mark, these return to payment will sort of coagulate around certain industries. I can give you an example of one that may have difficulty coming back. It's a company that leases audio visual equipment into the meeting business, right? You go to a conference in Las Vegas, they might supply the AV stuff. They are going to be the recipient of a Mainstreet loan, which gets them maybe to the time when people are going to business meetings. But that's an example of one that may have difficulty coming back without the benefit of that stimulus money from the Mainstreet program. But it is only a handful at this time that have emerged as potentially having more serious trouble.
Mark Thomas Fitzgibbon - MD & Head of FSG Research
Okay. And then lastly, on credit, are you seeing much of a difference in business conditions for commercial customers in say Rhode Island versus Massachusetts?
M. Robert Rose - Chief Credit Officer
No. I think both of our states were early lockdown and are both enjoying moving from our Phase IIIs into Phase IVs with very low infection hospitalization rates.
Mark Thomas Fitzgibbon - MD & Head of FSG Research
Okay. And then, Carl, just a couple of financial questions. Excluding the impact from the PPP forgiveness on the margin, how are you thinking about the margins sort of over the back half of the year?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
We'll continue to see some pressure on the asset side, just as things reprice down, continuing to reprice down. But the liability side will reprice faster. So we do expect the margin to improve slightly going forward.
Mark Thomas Fitzgibbon - MD & Head of FSG Research
Okay. And then cash balances came down a fair bit this quarter. Should we expect those will also continue to come down and be redeployed into either securities or loans?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
I would say modestly. I think we'll continue to bring, slowly, gradually bring the cash balances down, not -- perhaps not so much into loans or into securities. I don't expect loans to be growing robustly going forward. Unless the PPP -- I know there's talk of a PPP 2. I'm not sure how much that may impact us. But I think the general loan environment right now, I think, is going to be very flat to down a bit.
Mark Thomas Fitzgibbon - MD & Head of FSG Research
Okay. And then lastly, I saw you filed a $200 million shelf yesterday. Was that just sort of a refresh of the existing shelf?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
Exactly. That's just a refresh. There's no plans on doing anything at this point.
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
It's housekeeping.
Operator
Next, we have David Bishop of D.A. Davidson.
David Jason Bishop - Senior VP & Senior Research Analyst
Quick question in terms of the outlook. You guys did a nice job sort of holding the line in terms of operating expenses in the face of the large compression here. How should we think about that trending into the second half of the year? It sounds like there could be some PPP program fees. Remind me if those get netted against the fees through spread income, or do they hit the operating expense line? Just sort of thoughts in terms of how that should trend moving forward.
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
We're continuing to see operating expenses to basically be flat going forward. If that's the question.
David Jason Bishop - Senior VP & Senior Research Analyst
And that's not contemplating any sort of movement in terms of the branch footprint for such as of yet?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
We did close one branch late in the quarter, Burlington branch. So we'll get a little bit of benefit from that. But just ongoing expenses slowly increasing. I think that will get eaten up by that. That's why I'm saying kind of a flat environment for expenses at this time.
David Jason Bishop - Senior VP & Senior Research Analyst
I know there was a lot of questions, I guess, in the past call, maybe just with what's happening with the exposure up there in terms of student housing and colleges and commercial real estate. It sounds like from what's happening in terms of the outlook from Phase II, at least in the apartment segment, not seeing too much pressure related to that thus far? Bob?
M. Robert Rose - Chief Credit Officer
Well, you first asked about the student issue, it blended into another question, maybe you could repeat it. But we expect from reports coming out of the colleges, between 25% to 50% of the usual student population in Boston, Cambridge and Environs. And we probably have, we mentioned this on the last quarter's call, we did a little zip code run in Rhode Island and in the Boston area, what kind of exposure we have where colleges are located. And it's about $220 million in apartments in those areas. That does not mean that every one of those is full of students. But the phenomenon when you reduce your student population like that, the other thing that's going along with it is they're reducing the number of kids that can be in dorm rooms. So some landlords are reporting interest in kids and schools seeking to book rooms so they can put one kid to an apartment and a bathroom. So the effect on apartments from the students is yet to be proven out, but perhaps not as negative as people anticipated. I can tell you that collection rates on apartments in both of our markets are running between 90% to 100% of expected collections.
David Jason Bishop - Senior VP & Senior Research Analyst
Got it, that's good color. And then finally, Carl, just circling back to PPP fees, did any of those impact spread income this quarter? Did any of those get recognized this quarter or is that all going to be a second half 2021 event?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
No, of the fees, they're getting recognized on a monthly basis, amortized into income, through interest income. The forgiveness process has not begun yet. I think the SBA and Congress is still working through what they're actually going to come out with. And so as that opens up or that gets some clarity happens there, as loans get forgiven and get paid, so we have to wait for the SBA to pay us, that's when we maybe will take that or we will take that fee income into earnings along with deferred costs.
Operator
Next, we have Collyn Gilbert of KBW.
Collyn Bement Gilbert - MD and Analyst
Carl, if we could just start just drilling into the margin a little bit. I know you had indicated, excluding PPP, that the bias is perhaps upward. But can you just give us a little bit more color in terms of what you're seeing on new loan origination yields? And then where you're also adding new CDs, kind of what the cost is of some of your new CDs at this point?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
So on the new loans during the quarter, loan rates were around 3.95% on a weighted average basis, 3.95% or so. And I think that's continuing. We're starting to put in some floors in place and things of that nature with folks. So it's holding in that 3.9% to 4% rate. And I think that's going to be consistent going forward. On the CD side, rates are just much lower and we're actually not seeing a lot of CD activity in the book. A lot of folks are opting out of our CD rates and preferring to go into money markets, just seeing the differential between the two not being substantial enough to lock in a rate. They prefer to have the flexibility of a money market account at this time. So that's why you're not seeing the rates or the yields on the CD book come down as much as you might have expected simply because nothing is rolling over and what's in the book is at a higher rate.
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
And certainly, there's nothing promotional in the CD business right now with all the liquidity around.
Collyn Bement Gilbert - MD and Analyst
Okay, perfect. Right, which I guess -- okay, well, that makes sense because I'm just looking at your CD rates and thinking that could be -- I would think it could be a lot lower, but that's just the timing of kind of the maturation schedule for when those start to roll over more than anything?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
Correct. That was the shrinking category.
Collyn Bement Gilbert - MD and Analyst
Okay. Got it. Okay. Good. And then just sort of tied into that in terms of the deposits that you saw PPP related, it feels like we're kind of hearing mixed things from banks in terms of when those money is expected to be drawn down. Do you have a sense of how those deposit balances might run in this -- with the point being that some of these PPP borrowers are saying this is a very low-cost source of borrowing for us, and we're going to just maintain this level of liquidity. Do you have a sense of what your PPP customers are doing or how they're thinking about it?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
No. I can't give you any insight exactly on that. I know there are certain customers that need that money to just keep -- stay alive. And so those folks are using it, but it's getting offset by folks that are maintaining more additional liquidity. So it's all across the board, so it's really hard to give you a real answer on that.
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
And it's almost 3,000 loans for us. So it's kind of difficult. They're all little pieces.
Collyn Bement Gilbert - MD and Analyst
Yeah, okay. And then just in terms of, and maybe this is for you, Bob, as we look at the provision this quarter, right, and obviously the reserve came down. And you had indicated, I guess just thinking about that the Phase II deferrals, the $202 million, and if we look at kind of those three heightened segments between retail CRE, fitness equipment and hotel at like $198 million, just trying to sort of reconcile maybe what you think the inherent risk truly is within that book, and how that qualitative risk maybe played into the provisioning this quarter? Or just how you're looking at that?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
Well, first thing, the allowance went up, okay? I think you might have said that it went down, if I heard you right. But it went up.
Collyn Bement Gilbert - MD and Analyst
Just the reserve ratio, the reserve --
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
The reserve to non-PPP loans, which I think all the analysts as well as you [cross talk] because that did increase to $175 million of loans. And that was a good increase over where we were before and I think it's still substantially higher than most that don't have these types of --
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
Okay, and Bob, would you take the latter part of that question?
M. Robert Rose - Chief Credit Officer
I will. It's kind of like a two-part answer. I think first of all, Collyn, the deferrals were like only one out of six major things we considered as we evaluated the proper level of provision and ending reserve for this quarter. But the way we look at those segments, if you were looking at Carl's slide or our slide on Page 10 for example, we had a little residual left. If you think of them differently, about 22% of the deferrals in the eastern funding core portfolio asked for second extensions. As a little bit of color there, remember that the vast majority of this business is essential, meaning it's a laundromat and they do some Bodegas and a handful of other things. All essential businesses. And they found that those customers, most of them have a proclivity to want to pay their loans off faster than the maturities. But in this environment, some of them said, oh, what the heck, I'll take another 90 days just because I can. But we don't expect anything but the weakest of the weak to be hurt in that portfolio. We think the rest of them will come back. The Tow business, same percentage. If you do that arithmetic, it's 21% of the deferrals. And we simply need volume on the highways to pick up to where it was. And this business, another essential part of life, should return nicely. Regarding the fitness business, most of those segments that I mentioned are strong. The Planet business, well capitalized owners, multiple stores. Everything is personally guaranteed and cross-collateralized and the fellow who runs that believes that it is more likely that those people will consolidate operations and pay down loans rather than get stuck on something. But part of that, at the end of the day, might be, might be, too soon to tell, but the independents who own one and two exercise places. So we're looking at that. The hotels, you can understand why they get deferrals like that, but 50% of our hotels are in vacation sites, Martha's Vineyard, Block Island, the coast of Rhode Island, the coast of Connecticut, and those people are reporting near 100% bookings through their summer season, Province Town. It's the business ones that are a little weak. And virtually all of those are with very well capitalized sponsors who have lots of flexibility, and we're working with them to determine what we do. So we are not terribly worried about any of these pieces asking for additional deferrals at this moment in time.
Collyn Bement Gilbert - MD and Analyst
Okay. That's great color. That's very helpful, Bob. Okay, thanks, that's all I had. Thank you.
Operator
(Operator Instructions) At this time, we have Laurie Hunsicker of Compass Point.
Laurie Katherine Havener Hunsicker - MD & Research Analyst
Just wanted to follow-up. I know you gave great color here on the LTVs, but specifically on the hotel book, you have --
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
On what, Laurie?
Laurie Katherine Havener Hunsicker - MD & Research Analyst
On the hotels. Yeah, Bob, on the hotels.
M. Robert Rose - Chief Credit Officer
I'm sorry, what's the question?
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
LTVs on the hotel business generally.
M. Robert Rose - Chief Credit Officer
Well, you know, they are fairly modest in the 65% to 75% at the very top. And those that are up there, up at that higher end, Laurie, would be smaller projects like a B&B somewhere owned by an individual. So no, nothing way out there.
Laurie Katherine Havener Hunsicker - MD & Research Analyst
Okay, great. And then just a quick question, Carl, for you. On the $566 million of PPP loans, how much of that is under $150,000?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
Oh, that's a great question. A large part of it.
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
Isn't it like 70%?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
I think the median loans, we show average loans there, but the median loan, I think at Brookline is $75,000 and the median loan at Bank of Rhode Island is $56,000. So it's a -- and I might have those things backwards, but I think that's the numbers. And so most of the loans are very, very small.
Operator
Next, we have William Wallace of Raymond James.
William Jefferson Wallace - Research Analyst
Quick question on just big picture thoughts around the branch network. Do you think that this new kind of adoption or accelerated adoption of digital channel could lead to faster or more branch consolidation opportunities?
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
I think maybe a little bit, but that's something that will take time to really develop. I mean we've been working with our branches as sales offices where we can both meet customers and prospects as well as go from there to meet them. Until the pandemic, you might recall that this was a very congested area and Providence is fairly congested too. Not quite as bad, but there is sort of the idea that you need to be able to get out and about. And so we have never been a branch heavy situation. We're pretty well spread out. And so the traditional consolidation of branches is probably not in the cards for us. But here and there, depending on how the world develops and behaves, we would obviously take a hard look at where we're located.
William Jefferson Wallace - Research Analyst
Okay. Fair enough. And then on the flip side of that, are you considering whether you need to invest more on the technology side on the digital offering side for your customer?
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
I don't know that it's more, William. I think it's just a continuing pacing, making sure that we include in our budgets the right kinds of technology projects and we execute on them and keep going. It's not an event, it's a never-ending process that we're on all the time.
William Jefferson Wallace - Research Analyst
Okay. Fair enough. And then, Carl, just one kind of housekeeping question, maybe put a bow on the PPP discussion. And I apologize if you gave this, I didn't see it. Can you share what the average PPP loans were during the quarter? And then what the NII contribution was?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
I honestly don't have a good number on what that average balance was for the quarter.
William Jefferson Wallace - Research Analyst
Okay. Do you -- have you calculated what the NIM impact was or what the average yield was?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
The average yield on the book is around 2.35% to 2.40%.
William Jefferson Wallace - Research Analyst
Okay, great. And that's net of the cost, right?
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
That's the yield.
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
Yes, that includes the amortization of the cost as well.
Operator
And next, we have a follow-up from Laurie Hunsicker of Compass Point.
Laurie Katherine Havener Hunsicker - MD & Research Analyst
Sorry, just two more quick questions, Carl, for you. I was looking for prepay fees and accretion income this quarter in the NII. Thanks. Or I can follow-up with you offline.
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
No, no, no. So the prepays were about $1.1 million. That's loan prepayments related to loan payments. And deferred fees was, deferred costs I should say, is $1.8 million.
Laurie Katherine Havener Hunsicker - MD & Research Analyst
All right. So prepay fees were $1.1 million. And then did you have accretion income?
Carl M. Carlson - CFO
No accretion income, just deferred cost. So loan prepayment, that's a benefit, right? That's a benefit coming in. That was equal to about 5 basis points of our NIM. And the deferred costs all coming at the negatives, that's $1.8 million or 8 basis point drag. So the two of those together is a three basis point drag on the core NIM. As far as accretion, as far as purchase account, that's gone, that's done.
Operator
At this time, we're showing no further questions. We'll go ahead and conclude our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference call back over to Mr. Paul Perrault for any closing remarks. Sir?
Paul A. Perrault - President, CEO & Director
Well thank you, Mike, and thank you all for joining us, and we look forward to talking with you again next quarter.
Operator
And we thank you, sir, for your time also and to the rest of the management team. Again, the conference call has now ended. At this time, you may disconnect your lines. Thank you. Take care, and have a great day, everyone.