BOS Better Online Solutions Ltd (BOSC) 2025 Q3 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the BOS conference call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available on the BOS website as of tomorrow. Before I turn the call over to Mr. Cohen, I would like to remind everyone that forward-looking statements for the respective company's business, financial condition, and results of its operations are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated.

  • Such forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, product demand, pricing, market acceptance, changing economic conditions, risks and product and technology development, and the effect of the company's accounting policies as well as certain other risk factors, which are detailed from time to time in the company's filings with the various securities authorities.

  • I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Eyal Cohen, CEO. Mr. Cohen, please go ahead.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Thank you. Good morning, and thank you for making the time to meet with us today. Joining me is Mr. Moshe Zeltzer, our Chief Financial Officer. BOS integrate cutting edge technologies to streamline and enhance supply chain operation.

  • We delivered strong growth in the first nine months of this year. Revenue grew year over year by 28% to $38 million, continuing our record performance this year. We are strategically expanding overseas by partnering with international subcontractors of our Israeli defense clients. This market -- these markets are relatively untapped by BOS and represent potential growth for BOS. We see India as a major target market because it is a global hub for wire and connector assembly where we have a competitive advantage.

  • Through this approach, our international revenues grew by 24% year over year, demonstrating the growth potential in international market. Our net income grew year over year by 54% to $2.8 million, while our revenues grew by 28%, showing our ability to convert revenue into bottom-line results plus profit leverage as we scale the operating base of the business.

  • We have demonstrated consistent profitability with steady net income growth, achieving a compound annual growth rate of 51% from year '21 through the year 2025. These results underscore the strength of our defense focused strategy, reflecting use of delivery investment in product diversification and operational excellence that position us to capitalize on the defense sector to robust growth trajectory. Given our strong execution and stable backlog exceeding $24 million, we are raising our full year 2025 financial guidance.

  • We now expect to meet the high end of our previous guidance range of $45 million to $48 million in revenue and $2.6 million to $3.1 million in net income. There are several tailwinds that have accelerated our growth momentum, and we believe will support our long-term organic growth: first, as you know, the global increase in defense budgets; second, replenishment and expansion of Israeli Defense Forces inventory and equipment and vehicles; third, the potential stabilization and improving geopolitical conditions in the Middle East, which is a pivotal tailwind for the growth of the Israeli [serving] market and will positively impact the growth of our RFID division.

  • These drivers support our continued organic growth in conjunction with our outbound sales efforts. We continue to look for opportunities to enhance our organic growth with strategic actions that fit our business and diligent pricing parameters. Through the combination of this effort, we intend to grow both over the coming years.

  • With that overview, I will turn the call over to Moshe Zeltzer, our CFO, to discuss our financial position. Please, Moshe.

  • Moshe Zeltzer - Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you, Eyal. Our financial consolidation has never been stronger. Cash and equivalents grew to $7.3 million, up from $3.6 million at year-end. Our shareholders' equity amount to $25 million, which account for 66% of our balance sheet. We have positive working capital of $18 million and $1.1 million in long-term loans secured by real estate we are using for our own operations.

  • This strong balance sheet give us the flexibility to capitalize on opportunities as they arise, supporting organic growth and strategic acquisitions. Our valuation offers attractive upside compared to Russell 2000 Index multiples. Price-to-earnings ratio Russell 2000 is 20 versus BOS at 11, price to book ratio Russell 2000 at 2.2% versus BOS at 1.7%.

  • Thank you for your time and attention. We are happy to take your questions.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • This is Scott White at [CIMCO] Capital. Great quarter. Terrific quarter. I have a few questions, and if it's okay, I'd like to ask them one at a time. In the press release, you highlighted that you're excited about your expanding opportunities with new and existing customers. Can you highlight a couple that you're particularly enthusiastic about and specifically new customers?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah. The main customer that we are joining to our portfolio, mainly overseas clients, mainly from India. And I can tell you that in the recent week, there was a huge dedication here from -- in Israel from India, including ministers from Indira, and we were happy to meet with many, many companies from India and those are the major clients that we are joining our group.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Okay. When would you expect revenues to hit the bottom line, to impact your P&L?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • What do you mean?

  • Unidentified Participant

  • When do you expect revenues from this new Indian customer to impact your P&L?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah. It already impacted the year -- these nine months, we already see the growth in revenues from international market by 24% as compared to the comparable period last year, and this has mainly come from the Indian market. And it poses and gradually, we are taking -- we are increasing our market share in this territory.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Okay. Thank you. Second question, can you expand on the loss in the RFID division and exactly what you mean by logistics center slowdown in Israel?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yeah. The RFID division engagement in the civil market, not in the defense market segment. This segment had a very challenging time in the recent two years because of the conflict in the Middle East. And it adversely affect the business. And in the recent two quarters, we also saw the effect of the US dollar devalued against the Israeli shekel that also adversely affected the business. But in the fourth quarter, because of some measure we took operationally and in the business model as well and the change in the environment in Israel, especially in the geopolitical environment, we see a rebound in the demand, and we are optimistic about returning back to profit in the fourth quarter.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Okay. Great. And then that was my next question. Can you expand on the currency impact? And how much can you quantity the effect it had on your P&L? And do you hedge? And if not, are you going to start hedging?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yes. So the US dollar devaluate, again, the Israeli shekel by about 11% in the six months has ended the September 30 this year, the second and the third quarter. And since most of our operational expenses are denominated in shekels accounts, while our revenues are primarily in dollars, this currency movement created approximately (inaudible) additional cost pressure on operating income during this period or roughly about [$0.25 million] per quarter. So as I mentioned before, we are proactively addressing this headwind through strategic sales price adjustment initiated in the fourth quarter and operational efficiency improvements.

  • And having the hedging, we are hedging the balance sheet exposure. And for every hedging -- each hedging has a mutation period. And we don't believe that it's temporary exchange rate. I think it will be with us for the long term. So any kind of hedging on the dollar is temporary. And we are trying [to build], to find a solution for the long term. And because of that, we are in the process of a sub price adjustment and operational efficiency improvements.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Okay. One more question, and then I'll jump back in the queue. One of the potential concerns on your P&L and continued growth is the impact of the end of the war in Gaza. Can you address this? And how should we think about the end of the war and its impact?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • I think there are two coins -- two sides for the coin. On one side, we are in the different segment. The supply chain provision, the biggest division in BOS 90% of its business is in the difference. And each customers are the major client in Israel. So there is a direct impact of the tension. On the other hand, we have the RFID division, which is in the steady market.

  • The (inaudible) market doesn't benefit from the war. But because the biggest -- we have the big exposure to the difference, because of that, we are growing in the top line and in the bottom line.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Historically, have you grown faster on the defense side, in a time of war or time of peace.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • All the years, the growth -- the main growth came from the supply chain because even in time of peace, those three clients are the biggest exporter in Israel. They're going year-by-year. And also, the defense budget of Israel is going year-by-year even before the war. So I'm not sure about the number, but I think the average growth rate of the defense market in Israel along the years were about 7%. So it's growing.

  • Sometimes in so period in (inaudible) in the recent two years, about 17% each year or more in normal years about 10%.

  • Todd Felte

  • Congratulations on another great quarter. I see that you have a $7.3 million in cash and I assume that amount is rising in the current quarter. You've talked about M&A possibilities. Will you have to use raise equity? Or will you be able to use cash for any M&A activity?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Todd. Yes, our cash position was strong at the end of the third quarter with over $7 million and 0 bank debt. That's continued to grow in the fourth quarter. So for M&A, we are targeting profitable Israeli defense sector companies. We complementary products, serving our major clients and their subcontractors.

  • So with acquisition targets of up to $10 million and bank financing typically available for approximately 50% because it's a profitable company, 50% of the purchase price we can execute this [interaction] using our existing cash on hand without acquiring equity raising, while maintaining sufficient working capital for operational organic growth.

  • Todd Felte

  • That's great. Also, can you kind of give us some clarity on the amount of the percentage of your defense business, which is in Israel and the mouth that's in internationally and how that how you expect that to change. I've seen a lot of contracts from India and Europe, and I was hoping you could kind of quantify that for us.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yes. As we saw in the chart like in the nine months is the -- out of the $38 million, $3.6 million were sales overseas regarding -- related to the Supply Chain, related to the Defense. And we are taking measure to -- and reallocate resources to increase this number by being active with active approach, especially in India and they may be even to change our approach in how to operate the sales in India, and we see a lot of potential in this market.

  • So I believe that this number of $3.6 million that reflects 24% increase in sales oversea will continue. We will see this trend continue in the fourth quarter and in year '26 as well.

  • Todd Felte

  • Okay. I know you talked about opening up kind of a branch office in India. I assume that's where a lot of the expansion is going to be? And is there any update to that office you're going to open over there?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yes. We are checking various options on how to make it in the most efficient way. We are taking a very conservative measures how to allocate our financial resources overseas, now to do it in a very lean way. And I believe that in next year, we will see the actual results of our plan.

  • Todd Felte

  • Okay. Congratulations again on a great quarter.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Thank you.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • My name is Igor. This is my second call. Congratulations on a strong quarter. So my question is Israel is expensive, everything in Israel is expensive any operations and now it's getting a bit more expensive stronger shekel. And now that you becoming more and more of an international company international sales, any thoughts of spreading the cost and moving some of the operations outside of Israel, given that it's so expensive to do anything in Israel?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • It's a good idea, but maybe, maybe it's a good idea. We need to think about it. Actually, we don't -- I don't see any -- which units we can operate overseas. But one of the options, as I mentioned to Todd is to instead of doing the sales to India from Israel to do the sale to India from India. So this is the first example how we can reduce our cost, but the main approach to do sales in India were not to save cost but to increase sales, but we can get both of the things together, but it's a good idea.

  • I need to (inaudible). I need to think about it, and I will keep you updated in the next call.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • My other question is -- so I know that the last years were sort of overshadowed by the Gaza war and Gaza people would refer to this. historically, like if you take many, many years, the company is a bit of a cyclical company. So some periods of times, there's more demand there is a little bit less demand. How do you intend to make a company a little bit less cyclical and more like a sustainable growth? Like what is your strategy like?

  • What do you see the company like five years down the road?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • I think by going overseas to increase our sales overseas, we saw in the number like out of $38 million adjusted, $3.6 million of international sales. So if you increase it, we can reduce the cycling. And the growing by acquisition and adding more increase in the portfolio, our offering. And by that, we can eliminate the exposure that you mentioned. But the structure of BOS is that we have the supply chain in the defense, and we have the RFID and we have the robotic in between.

  • So we are already spread. But I have to be honest with you, the -- we are in the defense for many years, more than 10 years, and it's all the time growing. I don't remember a cycle of a slowdown in this segment. I'm sure that in three or four years, the demand will come back to normal after the situation in the Middle East and in Europe. But I believe it's the best segment to attach to.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Okay. And my last question about the potential for M&A. So obviously, you put $4.5 million at the market option now, and you have plenty of cash (inaudible) for any cash. So do you have -- are you looking at any specific opportunities right now? Or you just put it just in case?

  • Like what is your thought about M&A for the next year or two years?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • I hope that in next year, we will close on M&A. This is the working plan. And my plan is to close one. And I hope that every two years, we will be able to close on the M&A. And by that, with the organic growth to reach to the $100 million.

  • This is a target. But those are our plans, and we are working to -- according to those plans.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Just curious, I understand it might be opportunistic, but why don't you look to borrow to do an M&A and potentially looking at the equity component, given that your stock is not particularly high. So that would be maybe a little bit some optimal versus borrowing from a bank, given that you pretty solid company, this good cash flow and earnings.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • I didn't understand your --

  • Unidentified Participant

  • So it looks like you put a potential for M&A, you have an option of $4.5 million equity -- so obviously, I don't know now what the opportunity, the M&A opportunity is going to look like. But I would hope that you would first intent would be to borrow money from the bank to do an M&A versus issuing equity given that your equity is relatively low, given your valuation, So I think.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • As I mentioned to Todd, we -- in case of doing acquisition, even $10 million , which is a frame of investment that we are targeting assuming 50% by bank loans because it will be a profitable target company. So for the rest, the $5 million, absolutely, we can -- we don't need to issue more stock. We have it on hand.

  • We have $7.5 million as of the end of September, and the cash continues to grow. And so I don't see any need to raise the equity to consume in M&A.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • So you just have a just in case a big opportunity comes up that you have a $4.5 million offering at the market.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • We see it. We have tools like every public company should have like the shelf perspective that we have, and we haven't used for four years. Like the ATM that we have, and we haven't used since the date was filed. And the asset in that unused credit line that we have in the bank are not used. So we are holding facilities which we have.

  • And -- but actually, in order to consume $10 million M&A, we don't need to raise BOS tool except for the unused credit lines (inaudible) credit lines.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • How much do you have available credit to us now approximately?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Sorry?

  • Unidentified Participant

  • How much credit do you have unused as of now?

  • Moshe Zeltzer - Chief Financial Officer

  • $1 million for the RFID.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • No. unused. Unused, we have unused for ongoing years not for the acquisition we (inaudible)

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Oh, I see, okay. yes. So that's capital.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • On $1.5 million to $2 million unused credit line for we've all been credited for organic growth. But when you already check with the banks in case of model of acquisition, a profitable company. And I believe we can get 50% financing from the bank to -- for the acquisition.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • From an Investor Relations perspective, have you finalized your dates as to when you're going to come to the US to meet investors?

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yes. I think it will be April next year. In between, I will participate in the virtual summit, we will announce on it and they will continue to do ongoing one-on-one weekly meetings with the potential investors. Scott?

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Yes, I got it.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Any follow-up question?

  • Unidentified Participant

  • No, no follow-up from good although I'd like to meet you when you come to the U.S. for sure.

  • Eyal Cohen - Chief Executive Officer, Director

  • Yes. We can meet. So thank you, again, for your participation. And if you need more details or would like to follow up, please feel free to reach out to us. Thank you.

  • Moshe Zeltzer - Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you. Bye-bye.