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Good morning. My name is Stephanie and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I'd like to welcome everyone to the Valeant Pharmaceuticals first-quarter earnings conference call.

(Operator Instructions)

Thank you. Ms. Laurie Little, Head of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Thanks, Stephanie.

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Valeant's investor first-quarter 2015, conference call. Today we will be discussing our financial results and presenting on the call are J. Michael Pearson, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Howard Schiller, Chief Financial Officer. Dr. Ari Kellen, Company group Chairman, will also be available for questions after our prepared remarks. In addition to a live webcast, a copy of today's slide presentation can be found on our website under the Investor Relations Section.

Before we begin, our presentation today contains forward looking information. We would ask that you take a moment to read the forward-looking statement legend at the beginning of our presentation, as it contains important information.

In addition, this presentation contains non-GAAP financial measures. For more information about non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to slide number 1. Non-GAAP reconciliations can be found in the press release issued earlier today and posted on our website.

Finally, the financial guidance in this presentation is effective only as of today. It is our policy to update our firm guidance only through broadly disseminated public disclosure.

And with that, I will turn the call over to Mike.

Thank you, Laurie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Today we announced very strong financial results from the first quarter of 2015.

We plan to discuss four topics on today's call. First, we'll review our strong first-quarter financial results. Second, provide you with the highlights of our first-quarter business performance. Next, we'll update you on the progress with the integrations of both Dendreon and Salix. And finally, we'll discuss our financial performance and update our 2015 guidance.

This morning we reported Valeant's first-quarter results for 2015, which were driven by strong sales growth and profitability across all our regions, once again demonstrating the strength of our diversified and decentralized business model. Before we begin discussing the details of our performance, I wanted to provide the highlights of this quarter.

The results announced today exceeded the Q1 guidance that we provided on our last call, despite losing $140 million in top-line revenue and $0.12 in cash EPS to FX headwinds. We had very strong same-store organic growth of greater than 15%, driven by the strong performance from most of our business units around the world.

The Dendreon and Salix integrations are largely complete. With Salix, we will exceed $530 million in synergies and exceed the $500 million run rate by the end of Q2. With Dendreon, we expect to achieve greater than $130 million in synergies and to achieve 90% of this run rate by the end of the year.

Based on our strong base business of performance, and the contributions from sales from Dendreon, we are raising our 2015 cash EPS guidance to $10.90 to $11.20. Finally, we are reconfirming that we expect 20%-plus cash EPS accretion from the Salix acquisition in 2016. And we remain confident in our ability to comfortably seed $7.5 billion in EBITDA in 2016.

Looking at our quarter, our total revenue was $2.2 billion, an increase of 16% over the prior year, largely driven by the exceptionally strong growth in many of our US businesses, which more than offset the negative headwinds from FX in our ex-US markets. Adjusting for FX in the divestiture of our aesthetics business to Galderma last year, revenue grew 27% in Q1 2014.

Cash EPS was $2.36, an increase of 34% over prior year. This includes the negative impacts of the $140 million in revenue and $0.12. Adjusted for FX and the aesthetic divestment, cash EPS grew 50% Q1 2015 over Q1 2014.

Additionally, the acquisition-related financing that was completed prior to the quarter end had an impact on our Q1 result. We included the negative $0.01 impact from the share issuance while we excluded the $0.02 impact from the debt financing that settled prior to quarter end.

Turning to organic growth, our overall same-store total Company organic growth was 15% for the quarter. While almost all of our businesses delivered strong organic growth, I would like to highlight contact lenses, dermatology, Obagi, ophthalmology Rx, Asia, the Middle East and North Africa, Poland and Mexico as having particularly strong quarters. This performance puts us at the high end of our previous guidance of 10% to 15%, and we expect to deliver organic growth for the rest of the year of greater than 10%.

Most of the Bausch and Lomb businesses continued their consistently strong growth pattern, delivering 6% organic growth in Q1. If we exclude Japan, B&L grew 8% for the quarter. You may remember that Japan enacted a sales tax increase effective April 1, 2014. This lead to a significant increase in forward buying of all consumer products in Japan, including our B&L products in Q1 of last year.

In the subsequent quarter, our sales in Japan dropped approximately $8 million. Thus, we expect double-digit organic growth next quarter in B&L Japan. If normalized over both quarters, Japan is growing in the high single-digits.

The other area of slow organic growth is in our US surgical division, which has had a second consecutive slow quarter. As you have seen in other earnings reports, the cataract market in the US has been flat from Q4 2014 to Q1 of 2015. We do expect this to start strengthening the rest of the year.

Our growth was slowed by changing our business model for our VICTUS femtosecond laser to a lease versus sale model from 2014 to 2015, and a continued erosion of our Excimer laser. This reduction was offset by the growth in Trulign and enVista IOLs.

Overall, our surgical business is doing well and gaining share in the most attractive segments. We have begun trials on our next generation Lasik platform, TENEO, in the US which will replace the Excimer. Outside the US, our TENEO platform is gaining share. Despite these pressures on B&L this quarter, we are confident that B&L will achieve approximately 10% organic growth for the full-year 2015.

As promised, we are continuing to show revenue for our top 20 products. As a percentage, our top 20 products represent 41% of total revenue in the first quarter, with the largest product representing approximately 3% of revenue and the top 10 products contributing approximately 27% of revenue.

The top 20 products, excluding three newly acquired products, grew 36% over the first quarter of 2014. The three newly added products from recently completed acquisitions include two from our Marathon acquisition, Isuprel and Nitropress, and Provenge from the Dendreon transaction. This quarter the majority of the growth of our top 20 products was driven by volume increases for most of our top products.

Our US dermatology business had an outstanding quarter. Dermatology revenue grew 38% year on year and script growth grew 37% year on year. Jublia scripts grew 87% in Q1 versus Q4 of last year. Our Jublia revenue growth was more modest, due, as expected, to post-launch stocking levels at wholesalers and retailers being reduced.

On April 20 we launched a new television campaign featuring John McEnroe, which is already having a positive impact on the product. Next week we will be launching a Jublia 8-milliliter SKU as opposed to our current 4-milliliter SKU, with a $0 co-pay. At the end of Q2 we will be eliminating our $0 co-pay on the 4ml SKU. We expect this will further accelerate the growth of the brand.

We also launched Onexton this quarter, our new combination acne treatment, and we are seeing an almost identical ramp of scripts as we did with Jublia. We've also begun a DTC campaign with our first commercial airing April 6, targeted towards the adult female audience. Our peak sales estimate for Onexton is now between $100 million and $200 million.

Luzu continues to grow with weekly scripts growing 90% over the course of Q1. Our Retin-A franchise grew greater than 50% Q1 2014 to Q1 2015.

And finally, Obagi and Solta combined to grow over 20%. As you can see, given their modest size, we are now including Obagi and Solta in our US dermatology business unit.

Turning to our eye health business. Our eye health business is performing extremely well and delivered 19% growth over the prior year. Our contact lens business continues to see strong growth from our BioTrue ONEday lens.

BioTrue ONEday delivered its biggest revenue quarter since launch, growing 97% over the prior year. We expect this growth to continue, as we recently received clearance for our BioTrue Toric lens and plan on launching this product later this year.

Our ophthalmology Rx business continues to see strong double-digit growth fueled by multiple brands. B&L's Ultra contact lens continues to be well received by healthcare professionals and is selling to production capacity on our pilot line. Our first commercial manufacturing line is expected to be validated and producing contact lenses in May, which will begin to help fill demand not only in the US, but allows us to launch outside the United States in select markets by the end of the year.

In addition, we have now received clearance for both the Multi Focal and Toric Ultra lens, which we expect to launch in Q4 2015 and Q1 2016, respectively. In Q1 Ultra sales were only $7 million, due to only producing pilot products on our private line.

As I mentioned previously, the number of cataract surgeries remained flat overall, which affected our surgical business. As I mentioned, the growth in Trulign IOLs offset the decline in sales of our Excimer lasers. Our R&D team was successful in obtaining FDA clearance for both new software and hardware for our VICTUS machine, which should fuel growth for the rest of the year.

Turning to our other US businesses, revenue growth for our neuro and other and generics portfolio was driven by products, including Xenazine, Ammonul and Virazol. Our consumer business revenue continued to outpace the market with strong revenue growth from CeraVe, Preservision, Occuvite and Soothe XP.

We launched seven new CeraVe products in the quarter, as well as our new Occuvite vitamin gummies, which will continue to provide growth in 2015. Our lens care solutions delivered 21% growth over the prior year, driven by our BioTrue Multipurpose Solution. Finally, our dental business accelerated its historically strong growth due to the exceptionally strong volume growth of Arestin.

Now turning to the rest of the world, our emerging markets business in Central and Eastern Europe and the Middle East delivered solid organic growth of 6%. We realized strong organic growth in Poland of 29%, as well as the Middle East which delivered organic growth of 26%.

Russia delivered negative organic growth this quarter due to the strong demand in the fourth quarter of 2014, as the market anticipated retail prices that were set for increases at the beginning of 2015. We expect Russia to return to positive organic growth in the second quarter.

Organic growth for our emerging markets business in Asia was overall 10% versus the prior year. We continued to see strong growth in a number of key countries, such as Thailand at 30%, China at 17%, South Korea at 15% and Malaysia at 13%, just to mention a few. In Latin America we delivered 7% organic growth with Mexico performing very well, growing 11% for the quarter, which offset continued weakness in Brazil.

For the rest of the world developed markets, the underlying business remained strong with both Canada and Australia businesses performing well, with 10% and 3% growth, respectively. Their growth was offset by the decline of 9% in Japan due to the anticipation of the sales tax increase in April of last year, which I discussed earlier.

On our last call we announced the close of our acquisition of Dendreon and I am pleased to report that we are off to a strong start. Dendreon's revenue is on plan and the business was profitable in Q1. We have identified more than $130 million in synergies and we expect to achieve a 90% run rate of these synergies by the end of 2015, with gross margins expected to be in the mid-60%s range by year-end. Our commercial team has now focused their efforts on the urology market in addition to oncology, which we believe will begin to drive growth.

Now let me turn to our Salix acquisition. We completed our acquisition of Salix on April 1, and we are largely complete with the integration. A new leadership team has been appointed that includes Bill Bertrand, Salix's former COO as General Manager; John Temporato as Head of Sales; and Tom Hadley, former Marketing Director for both Jublia and Luzu, as head of Marketing.

As with Dendreon, we have identified all synergies and expect to exceed our original synergy target of $500 million. We notified all office space employees on Day 1 as to their respective status with this Company, and we expect to be at the $500 million run rate in terms of synergies by the end of June. The remaining synergies will be achieved by the end of the year.

In terms of the key Salix TRx trends, we showed you the script trends for the major products in the sales portfolio last call, and this page shows the positive trends have continued. So the business remains in excellent shape.

On the commercial side of the business, we will maintain three specialty GI sales teams. We have made some minor adjustments to these teams to maximize efficiency.

We are doubling the hospital sales force and adding a number of Valeant products, for example Virazol and Ammonul, to the bag. We also doubling the size of the federal sales team and adding products such as Jublia, Luzu and Arestin to their promotional list.

Next, we have established a new sales force to provide greater attention to the pain community, promoting Relistor and other Valeant brands such as Migranal and Bupap. We expect significant revenue synergies to Valeant products which have historically not been actively promoted to either hospital, government entities, such as the DoD, or pain specialists.

We have also decided to take a more focused targeting of the primary care market. We plan to cover the primary care market through our specialty sales force, coupled with extensive direct-to-consumer campaign once the IBS-D indication for Xifaxan is improved.

We've also made significant progress towards the potential approval of the IBS-D indication for Xifaxan. With a PDUFA date of May 28, we are already in labeling discussions with the FDA, as well as conversations regarding the post-marketing commitments that may be required. We are encouraged about a potential approval in May.

In terms of our R&D and our pipeline. We previously provided this chart at significant R&D milestones in 2015 and thought we should update everyone on our progress so far. As you can see, we have received marketing clearance for all our contact lenses and have filed the NDA for Brimonidine, or Luminesse, as it will be called in the market; initiated a Phase III trial for IBP-118 for psoriasis; and remain on track for many of the other activities. The enVista Toric and the Lotemax Gel next generation filings have now shifted into 2016.

Before I turn over the call to Howard, I'd like to address another piece of news that we announced today. Namely that Howard has announced his decision to step down as Valeant's CFO upon the appointment of his successor.

I know how disappointing this is for all of you, our owners, and also to me. Howard has been a great colleague, partner and friend, and obviously has been a great CFO. We have been through a lot together and I think our respect for each other has only grown over time.

I'll let Howard talk about the reasons behind his decision. But on behalf of the entire Valeant team, I want to take this opportunity to thank him for his many contributions he has made over the past three and a half years. Howard's unwavering commitment to Valeant, his sound judgment, his keen intellect and his tireless work ethic has helped us position the Company for continued success. During his tenure, our market cap has increased from under $15 billion to over $70 billion and the total shareholder return over that period has been over 300%.

Howard has been an integral part of the management team and we will miss him. I am delighted he is excited about continuing to serve on our Board, where we can all continue to benefit from his many strong attributes.

We will conduct a search for his replacement in a thoughtful way and I will involve Howard in the selection process. Howard has built an extremely strong finance team and the Company is in a tremendous position to continue on its next phase of shareholder value creation.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Howard.

Thanks, Mike.

The decision to step down as CFO of Valeant was a very difficult one, which I came to after quite a bit of soul searching. At this point in my life I would like to pursue other business interests, likely in a private company setting. I will remain as CFO until Mike and the Board find a successor, and of course I will work closely with Mike and the new CFO to ensure a seamless transition.

Since Day 1, my journey at Valeant has been nothing short of incredible. I've completely bought into our unique strategy and culture, the transparency and fact-based approach to running our business, and our relentless focus on building a great Company and on creating shareholder value.

While I will be resigning as an executive at Valeant, I'm thrilled and honored that the Board has asked me to remain as a director and to stand for reelection in May. Valeant's business has never been stronger and its prospects have never been brighter. I'm excited to remain in the Valeant family and to have the opportunity to continue to contribute to its future success.

I want to thank my 18,000-plus colleagues at Valeant and our Board of Directors, for making this experience so special. In particular, I want to thank Mike for his partnership, mentorship and most importantly, friendship.

Mike sets the tone at Valeant. He is the most talented person I've ever had the privilege to work with. He works tirelessly for the shareholders at Valeant and he is a great guy.

Now let's get back to our first-quarter results and guidance for 2015. We're very excited to report exceptional Q1 results across all of our key businesses. Our revenue was $2.2 billion, with our US and many of our emerging market businesses contributing strong double-digit same-store organic growth.

As mentioned earlier, the stronger US dollar cost us $140 million in revenue compared to Q1 of last year. In the face of these significant FX headwinds we generated strong revenue and cash EPS growth of 16% and 34%, respectively. Adjusting for FX, and the divested aesthetics injectables business, revenue and cash EPS increased by 27% and 50%, respectively.

Our cost of goods sold for the quarter was 25%, a slight uptick from the fourth quarter, due to rounding caused by the lower gross margins of Provenge and the impact of FX, primarily in Europe. We are expecting an improvement in gross margins for the remainder of the year due to continued strong growth of the legacy Valeant businesses in the US and the sale of Salix products, which will have gross margins in the low 80% range. By the end of the year we expect to approach our goal of achieving 80% gross margins.

Our SG&A as a percentage of revenue was in line with our budget. It was higher than historical levels due to the significant investment in DTC marketing campaigns associated with our dermatology launch brands. We will continue to invest in these products, so long as the growth in sales supports the spend. SG&A as a percentage of revenue will trend down throughout the year as we realize synergies from Salix and Dendreon.

The combination of a strengthening dollar and the outperformance of our US businesses has increased the percentage of our revenue generated in the US from 53% in Q1 of 2014 to 64% in Q1 of 2015. Given the fact that almost 100% of Salix's revenue is generated in the US, the percentage of revenue attributed to the US will jump further, to greater than 70% in 2016. Of course, future business development or significant FX swings could influence these percentages.

In Q1 we incurred restructuring and integration expenses of $65 million. As expected, less than $25 million resulted from pre-2015 transactions, and the majority of these expenses related to the restructuring of the B&L plant in Waterford, Ireland. We continue to expect restructuring expenses related to pre-2015 transactions to be less than $10 million in Q2.

Restructuring and integration charges relating to 2015 deals were approximately $41 million, with $35 million of the charges relating to Dendreon. Restructuring and integration charges for Salix are expected to be approximately $300 million in total, with a significant accounting charge to occur in Q2.

The cash severance portion will be paid out over one to three years, depending upon the employee. With Dendreon, we expect additional restructuring charges of $20 million for total charges of $55 million to achieve the synergies, or approximately 40% of anticipated total synergies.

In Q1, adjusted cash flow from operations was a strong $708 million, or 88% of cash net income. For purposes of calculating adjusted cash flow from operations, we excluded the buildup of accounts receivable of $131 million associated with the acquired Marathon products, given that we did not acquire any accounts receivable in that transaction.

Also under the terms of the renegotiated managed care contract, rebate payments will now be prepaid at the end of each quarter. As a result, we made two quarterly rebate payments to this PBM in Q1 of 2015.

Going forward, the timing of these payments will be consistent so we do not expect any future fluctuations in our cash flow relating to the timing of these payments. If we had adjusted for operating cash flow for the second of these payments, adjusted operating cash flow would have been $757 million, or 94% conversion.

Post Salix, we will add $31.2 billion in total debt with an average weighted interest rate of 5.1%. The debt at the mix of approximately 40% bank debt, 60% bonds and our revolver is currently undrawn.

The bonds for the Salix deal were included on the March 31 balance sheet, even though the transaction did not close until April 1. Proceeds from the bonds were included in restricted cash, and the fees and expenses related to the debt financing were in accrued liabilities. Our debt to pro forma adjusted EBITDA ratio was approximately 5.7 times at the close of the Salix transaction, and we have committed to reducing that ratio to below 4 times by the end of 2016.

2015 is off to a strong start and we expect this strength to continue for the remainder of this year. As a result, we are increasing our 2015 guidance.

We are increasing our guidance for revenue to $10.4 billion to $10.6 billion from $9.2 billion to $9.3 billion. And we are increasing guidance for cash EPS to $10.90 to $11.20 per share from $10.10 to $10.40 per share. This guidance includes the impact of gains on both Dendreon and Salix.

For 2015, we expect our strong organic growth to continue and expect same-store organic growth to be greater than 10% in Q2 through Q4. And we continue to expect B&L organic growth to be around 10% for the year.

As mentioned earlier, we are well on our way to achieving the synergies on the Salix and Dendreon acquisitions. For Salix, we will realize greater synergies than originally estimated and we will achieve these synergies faster than originally estimated.

We were thrilled with the strong TRx growth in Q1 of Salix's major products, especially given the uncertainty that always accompanies a sales process. At closing, Salix had approximately four to five months of inventory at the wholesalers. And we now plan to reduce wholesaler inventory levels to 1.5 months or less by the end of the year, rather than the two months or less originally estimated at the time the deal was announced.

As a result, Salix revenue is expected to be approximately $1 billion for Q2 through Q4. This estimate does not assume approval of the IBS-D indication for Xifaxan. After we receive this approval, we will update guidance to reflect this exciting opportunity.

Our 2015 guidance also does not include use of our balance sheet. You should expect us to use our free cash flow to reduce debt and for small tuck-in acquisitions.

Also, while we will continue to generate adjusted cash flow to target adjusted cash flow from operation of 90% or more of cash net earnings, the inventory work-down program for the Salix products will have a negative impact on operating cash flow. Therefore we will update guidance and operating cash flow once the inventory work-down plan is well underway.

Given the recent acquisitions of Salix and Dendreon and the need to reduce Salix inventory levels, we thought it would be helpful to make an exception to our general rule of not providing quarterly guidance and provide Q2 guidance. In Q2 we expect revenue of $2.45 billion to $2.55 billion, approximately 22% growth over the revenue in 2014 Q2, and cash EPS of $2.40 to $2.50 per share, approximately a 28% growth over cash EPS in 2014 Q2. This represents strong growth in revenue and cash EPS, even in the face of expected negative FX impact of approximately $178 million in revenue and $0.20 in cash EPS, and despite the hit from needing to reduce wholesaler inventory levels for the Salix products.

Lastly, we want to reconfirm our expectation of 20%-plus cash EPS accretion and EBITDA in excess of $7.5 billion in 2016. This 2016 outlook reflects the continued strong organic growth of our businesses, the continued outperformance of the US businesses, including continued success of our many launch brands, significant profit contribution of Dendreon post the restructuring of the business, and the continued impressive growth of the Salix franchise, including future sales of Xifaxan or IBS-D.

The organic growth rates embedded in this outlook for the legacy Valeant businesses are generally consistent with the detailed 2016 outlook we provided last summer and fall. This outlook does not include any future acquisitions.

In closing, we are very pleased with the strong performance of the Valeant operations in Q1, and excited about our prospects for the remainder of the year and for 2016. We look forward to updating you on our financial and operational progress on the next call.

And with that, we will now open the call for questions.

(Operator Instructions)

Chris Schott, JPMorgan.

Howard, best of luck with your future endeavors here. It's been a great run you've had. A couple quick questions here. First, on this 20% accretion to 2016 EPS from Salix. With today's 2015 update, can you give us a better sense of where that standalone $12.05 number that you provided last fall would be at this point?

If I look at between Dendreon, Marathon, the core business performance, is a $12.50 or greater earnings number, is that a reasonable thing to think about before considering the 20% accretion? Or anything you can help us on that front.

And my second question was on Jublia. Can you give us a better sense of where realized price per prescription is shaking out at this point? And elaborate a little bit more on the impact that 8-millimeter launch is going to have on the franchise, and how to think about realized price as that rolls through. Thanks very much.

Let me start with the second question and then I'll let Howard address the first question. In terms of the Jublia, right now our net pricing on Jublia is probably about $240, $250 per script. That's with a zero co-pay on the 4ml. And we're still in the midst of signing managed care contracts, but most of those are done.

Obviously the 8ml will cost twice what the 4ml costs, given it's twice the product. And we will be eliminating the co-pay on the 4ml, which will obviously help in terms of its average pricing. So you can do the math. Right now we're buying down co-pays of anywhere from $30 to $50 on the product.

In terms of conversion, the doctors have really been asking for the 8ml. Many patients have more than one toe that's affected by onychomycosis. So we think the conversion will actually be quite high. If you look at Kerrigan, I think 75% of their scripts are their larger size. So we won't get there overnight, but we suspect that we'll eventually get to 75%, 80% of all our scripts will be 8ml, especially with the pricing difference.

And then the gross to nets on the larger size will be actually a little bit smaller because the retail administrative fee will only be one fee for twice the size. So you can do the math. But it should have a real significant impact on our business in terms of almost a doubling of our business, I suspect, over the next three quarters.

Chris, on the first question I understand the desire to have more and more detail in terms of 2016. I think at this point, the easiest way to describe it is, it was the updated guidance for 2015 for the legacy Valeant business, for the entire business.

And as I mentioned in my remarks, the growth rates that embedded in our 2016 outlook are very consistent with the organic growth rates that we talked about in the summer and fall of 2014, which we gave you a lot of granularity around by business unit. And then on top of that, obviously Marathon wasn't part of the portfolio at that point. And then Dendreon and Salix.

So you can come at it two ways. You can start with, what is the cash EPS you need to get to the $7.5 billion of EBITDA? And then where are we in 2015? And you can figure out what you need for those two to converge. And I think if you sit down with the facts I just outlined, you can fill in the missing pieces.

Great, thanks very much.

Corey Davis, Canaccord Genuity.

Just a couple questions on Xifaxan. First, how soon after you got approval, assuming that it comes on May 28, could you launch?

Secondly, I've noticed that you've taken two 9% price increases in Q1. Does that mean that you're feeling pretty good about where you stand with managed care? And maybe elaborate a little bit more as to how that's going to roll out once you launch for the IBS indication.

And then lastly, at the time you announced Salix, I think you said that Xifaxan would be about a $900 million run rate. But that was assuming about a 30% volume growth, and it looks like scripts are below that right now. But if price is a little bit higher, is that still the right way to think about Xifaxan's run rate once inventories normalize?

Sure. So in terms of the launch, we'll actually start promoting the next day. We use the package insert, just like we did with Jublia and Onexton. Then we'll prepare the marketing materials, review with the FDA, develop a DTC campaign and then we'll do a formal launch meeting later in the summer. But we'll be able to promote off the package insert the very next day.

The two 9% price increases were not taken by us. We didn't own Salix until April 1. So you'd have to talk to Salix's previous management to discuss those.

In terms of the $900 million run rate for Xifaxan, I think that actually seems a little bit low. In fact, it is low. But once we get past the PDUFA date, I think that's the appropriate time to give everyone a sense of what we think Xifaxan is going to be.

When we give that number at the time of the announcement, half the year was assumed it would be sold by Salix with their existing discounts, because we weren't sure of the timing of the close at that time. Then half the year in our hands. In terms of overall scripts, I think the business is operating, as Mike mentioned, in line with what we would expect, and growth continues to be strong.

I'm sorry, can you remind us about the level of discounting that was going on to the wholesalers that Salix had? And how that's changed in your hands?

Their discounts were 15% to 20%. The cost of our distributor arrangements are less than 5%.

Great, thanks very much.

Annabel Samimy, Stifel.

Wanted to go back to the $7.5 billion in EBITDA. It seems like there's clearly a huge disconnect between where the Street is and where that guidance is. So you talked a bit about the top line, maybe you can help us a little bit on any additional costs that might be coming out of the income statement to get to those numbers.

And then on emerging markets, it seems that recently it's been a little bit weak outside of the FX impact. That used to be the high-growth markets, everyone wanted to be there. Is there something fundamentally going on in those markets? Is there a new shift going on? Can you help us understand how to think about emerging markets as a growth opportunity going forward? Thanks.

Let me take the emerging market question. And then I'll say something about $7.5 billion and Howard can chime in as well.

We are actually very excited about emerging markets. If you look back, we've always broken it out since I've been here, 2008 through now. If you go quarter by quarter, it goes up, it goes down, sometimes it's gone down as low as 3%, 4% sometimes it's up 15%. But the pattern's not changing.

We fully expect it will continue to grow at about 10%, in terms of our emerging market organic growth. But there will be big fluctuations quarter-to-quarter, it's not like a developed market. So there's crises, and as we've seen in places like Russia, that it will fluctuate quite a bit.

But over the last couple months, we've been to Asia and had a review of that business. Its outlook is strong double-digit growth for the rest of this year and going forward.

We've been over to Europe and we actually are beginning to feel quite good about Russia, that things are settling down a little bit. And the Middle East and North Africa is going to be a great market. And actually our business is improving quite a bit in Lat Am.

So again, it's a bit of a bet on macroeconomics, but these countries continue to get more wealthy and healthcare continues to increase as a percent of GDP. So I think that we feel quite comfortable. And we don't think FX is going to continue to work against us forever either.

So we're very pleased that we are in the emerging markets. And quite frankly, right now is a great opportunity to continue to pick up assets at low prices and build our business there, which we think will be very rewarding in the long term.

In terms of the gap between us and the Street in terms of $7.5 billion, I don't think we can be any more clear that that's what we're going to do. So there shouldn't be a gap. You guys should adjust your numbers to reflect the fact that that's what we're going to do. We are going to comfortably deliver $7.5 billion in EBITDA. And actually there's enough facts in this presentation that it's, quite frankly, just a bit of a math exercise to get there.

Okay, great, thank you.

Louise Chen, Guggenheim.

First question I had was with respect to the $7.5 billion EBITDA. Curious if you could talk more about if you include anything in there for tuck-ins and/or pipeline in that number? Or is that upside?

And then secondly on the gross margin reaching 80% by the end of 2015. Could give more color on what is going to be driving that? Thanks.

There's nothing assumed in the $7.5 billion in terms of acquisitions.

We did assume debt pay-down.

Yes, a full debt pay-down case. So it probably won't happen, we probably will do some acquisitions, which means it'll get even better. But it's the most conservative case.

Yes, because the debt pay-down doesn't impact EBITDA. It's just reducing interest expense and helping -- increases net income, obviously.

In terms of the 80% gross margins, a couple things are going on. One, is under our ownership, Salix's gross margins will increase significantly. And that's because we will not be doing the discounting that they were doing to the wholesalers, which obviously affects their gross margin. Under our hands they'll be in the low 80%s. That's before we actually negotiate better rates with wholesalers, et cetera.

And then a lot of our launch brands in the dermatology area have very high gross margins. And those will continue to grow disproportionately.

And our contact lenses, once we get to a commercial line and we get the Ultra up, the yields will continue to improve. The yields are continuing to improve on BioTrue Daily. So we have a lot of things going on in manufacturing that continue to -- and they're doing a great job in terms of improving the cost basis.

And then quickly on the $7.5 billion, are you including anything for pipeline? I know you have a lot of potentially new product approvals next year.

No. We assume nothing. That's why we feel very comfortable in terms of the $7.5 billion, because there's a lot of things that will happen. Howard just made a note, there's one product that we do have built in, Luminesse, which we know will get approved.

The eye whitening product.

But it's small.

And that was consistent -- again, we had highlighted that over the summer and the fall, as the only pipeline product that we included.

Gary Nachman, Goldman Sachs.

Howard, my best wishes to you as well, as you move on. Mike, a couple more on Xifaxan for IBS. If approved, a little more on the initial marketing plans in terms of increasing the sales force and how aggressive you'll be with DTCs and Jublia as a comp?

And then if you could quantify a little bit how much was price versus volume that contributed to growth in 1Q? And what do you factor in your full-year guidance price versus volume?

Sure. In terms of our marketing plan for Xifaxan, yes, we will be taking the Jublia approach to Xifaxan, but maybe turbo-charged a little bit. There's huge, huge unmet need here. And people that are, just like onychomycosis, people that have the medical condition and just are not getting any treatment, because treatments are not that good out there today.

It's also like onychomycosis, it's pretty simple to self diagnose. It's a much more serious condition than onychomycosis. So we think that going directly to the patients to make them aware that there is now a treatment for this, and an excellent treatment for this, will really drive demand. So you'll probably see a bit of a turbo-charged Jublia approach to this product.

In terms of price volume, actually volume was greater than price in terms of our growth. Outside the United States it's all volume. In fact, we had negative price outside the US with FX. And in the US it's shifting more to volume than price, and we expect that to continue with our launch brands. A lot of our prices for most of our products are negotiated with managed care. And there's only a limited amount of price that we can take.

And then if you look at our consumer business, very little. Walmart doesn't like price increases. If you look at our contact lens business, we're not discounting contact lenses. But we are keeping the prices the same. I think there is some noise in the market that there's discounting going on. We're not discounting, but that's all volume growth. And similarly in the cataract surgery market, again, we're just holding our prices. So it's primarily volume, and we expect that to continue.

Okay. And then just a follow-up on Xifaxan with the sales force. If you could comment. You said you're going to have more of a specialized sales force?

No, right now, Salix had three sleeves of specialty sales force aimed to the GI community. In terms of primary care, we're not going to build out a huge primary care sales force. We don't think that's efficient.

What we will do, just like we have done in dermatology, we will, for high-writing primary care, in the GI space, we will include them as part of our call plan. But we're not going to have -- we don't see the need to have a large primary care sales force. When we've done the analysis, it appears that the return on investment is much higher in terms of things like DTC than a primary care sales force.

Okay, thank you.

Marc Goodman, UBS.

So first, on the Salix products, I'm not sure if you mentioned it, but if you could tell us where are inventory levels now? We know where you're going to take them, but I was curious now.

Jublia, in the past you've mentioned that IMS is not really capturing all the sales. Can you give us a sense of how much you think IMS is capturing versus how much in the channels that are not being captured? Just to give us that breakdown like you've done before.

And then on Salix R&D, I was curious what pipeline assets, now that you own the assets, you own the Company, which assets are you going to move forward and which ones have you decided to stop?

And then can you, on contact lenses for the ONEday product, where is that around the world right now? You talked about that. I was curious, what countries has it been launched in? Thanks.

A lot of questions. Start with Jublia, I don't know what the IMS numbers are, because -- but in terms of our scripts per week are about 25,000 at this point with Jublia. Continuing to grow. So it sounds like you know IMS, so you can do the arithmetic there.

Salix R&D, actually most of the programs we're going to continue. And probably next quarter we will update our R&D slide for that. So we're still finalizing discussions, but most of the programs we are going to be continuing.

BioTrue Daily, we just launched -- we were just in China last week. So we just are launching it in China, Japan and in Asia. So it's not really in Asia, it's really not in a lot of the emerging markets, it's more in the developed -- it's mostly in, at this point I'd say US, Canada and Europe -- or Western Europe. And so there's still a lot geographies to go.

The inventories, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, Marc, the inventory levels at close were in the four to five month range. And that includes both the traditional, the big three wholesalers as well as some of the other wholesalers that Salix was dealing with.

Thanks.

Alex [Affray], BMO Capital Markets.

Howard, congratulations on a strong track record with Valeant. You sounded very committed to the Company last year and we were under the impression that you were staying on for another two years. If you don't mind us asking, what changed since mid last year?

And then on the Salix synergies, can you give us more clarity on where the synergies are coming from? Particularly given that you just said you're keeping much of the R&D projects. And I think you said you're increasing the sales force. So where are the synergies coming from? Thank you.

I can't tell you there was any one moment. This has been a process. Lots of discussions with Mike and a lot of soul-searching as I mentioned, and conclusion that I recently drew that at this point in my life, it was an interest in doing some things on my own. As I mentioned, most likely in a private Company setting. And it was very difficult decision. As I told Mike and the Board, there's 90%-plus of the time I'm sure I'm going to regret the decision. But it felt like the right decision for me today.

In terms of the synergies, basically all the back-office, all the G&A was addressed. I mentioned that we're not going to have a primary care sales force, so yes, we're building out some other sales forces. But it's not a net increase in selling expense, in fact it's a little bit of a decrease.

And in terms of the R&D programs, I think what's a little unique about Valeant is the amount we spend on a program tends to be a lot less than other companies, because of our approach and how we do it. I think we've talked in the past of Jublia, the cumulative cost of Jublia was like $40 million. And we developed that product from pre-clinical all the way through. If I look at ONEXTON, the number, I think, was actually lower. If we look at the psoriasis product we're developing, again, the total cost is going to be less than $15 million.

So I think it's our approach to -- we are able to do more with less. And I don't think that's fully appreciated. And so a lot of how we can do the R&D is by spending less to get the same work done, so a fair amount of synergies come from there. Obviously, there's purchasing synergies and all those types of things as well. But we have identified over $530 million and that cost will largely all be gone by the end of this quarter.

Thank you and all the best, Howard.

Douglas Tsao, Barclays.

Howard, wishing you well. Two quick questions in terms of the inventory work-down. Should we anticipate that being fairly linear through the course of the year? Or should this be something that is pretty heavy in 2Q and 3Q and then eases up in 4Q?

And then in terms of the gross margins for Dendreon which we expect to get to 60% by year-end, is that how we should think about that for 2016? Or as some of the other initiatives, in terms of perhaps growing volumes et cetera take hold, that you could start to inch up from that level or move up from that level? I think when you announced the acquisition, you indicated that you thought you could get considerably above that 60% level. Thank you.

Sure. So we're going to actually let the Salix inventories come down. And so they will come down more quickly in Q2 and Q3. Because not every wholesaler has the exact same amount of every inventory of every product, so there's fluctuations in there. But we certainly aren't going to be giving discounts to get people to buy the product, we're just going to -- so it will be heavier in Q2 and Q3 and hopefully Q4 returns -- begins to normalize in terms of inventory levels. That indeed is the plan and that's why we gave specific guidance for Q2, because it's impacted quite severely by the Salix draw-down of inventory.

In terms of the gross margins on Dendreon, I think we'll be above 60%. It should be 62%, 63% by the end of the year. And yes, we will continue to work on that in 2016, and we have programs in place that should continue to improve that. We certainly expect to get over 70% in terms of Dendreon. I don't think we'll probably get to 80% in the foreseeable future.

Okay, great, thank you very much.

David Amsellem, Piper Jaffray.

On your comments on the expansion of the hospital sales organization and then greater promotion into the pain specialist market, should we take that to mean that you are now more open to acquisition activity in the hospital space? Or in the pain management space? Is that necessarily signaling a C change in your thinking in terms of what your M&A interests are, at least in those areas going forward? Maybe you could elaborate on that. Thanks.

Sure. We now have a capability in those two areas that we didn't have. And whenever we get into a new area -- GI is the main area we are getting into where -- we're obviously looking already at opportunities in GI to add products to that franchise. And so I'm not sure I'd characterize it as a C change, but we are always opportunistic. And if we have a capability and we can find the right opportunity that creates value for our shareholders, we'll look at it.

Let me follow up to that question, actually switching gears, on Xifaxan. Salix had talked about historically potentially launching a new SKU, a blister pack, upon approval or sometime during the launch in IBS-D. Is that something that you're planning to do once you get the approval?

Assuming we get approval, yes. Yes, we will have a different SKU for IBS-D.

Thank you.

Andrew Finkelstein, Susquehanna Financial Group.

Best wishes, Howard. Could you talk a little bit about pricing on some of the products where it is a driver? I think it's certainly a contributor in the neurology and generics segment. Does that continue to be a year-on-year driver through this year? And then how do you think about it in 2016 for that segment in the US in particular?

And then in terms of your expectations for this year, has anything changed in terms of what you are expecting for generic competition to a couple of products? Xenazine being one, there were a couple of others that were potential cliffs this year.

Sure. If you go back to our 2016 outlook, which I think we put out in the summer of 2014 or the fall. November? I think it was actually earlier we did it, too, but you can see that our growth rate for neuro and other is 5%, both this year and next year.

Now obviously, we're growing a little bit faster than 5% so far this year. But in terms of how we look at our business going forward, we assume actually modest growth in that segment. That being said, if we see that there are products that are mispriced, and there's an opportunity, we will act appropriately in terms of doing what I assume all our shareholders would like us to do.

But in terms of any kind of long-term forecast, we are at 5%, so we're not planning on major price increases. Sometimes there's an opportunity to take a little bit more price and we'll do it, but that's not built into the remainder of this year or 2016 guidance. And if there's more, then that will be upsized. I think, what was the second question? I'm sorry.

Generics.

Generics. Xenazine, we thought we'd see a generic midway through this year. Right now our guidance continues to assume that we will have a generic midway through this year. That being said, it's not 100% clear that one will be coming out, so that could be upside if it doesn't.

And then Targretin, we also assumed we'd see a generic midway through this year. That one, I think there's a little bit more evidence that one may come. So we have not adjusted our guidance at all.

Right now they're both assumed to go generic this year midway through the year. And for Targretin, it's only one of -- we have two SKUs. We have, what is it?

A gel and a capsule.

A gel and capsule. So it would just go on the capsule, not on the gel. We're assuming both will happen. We expect Targretin to happen. Xenazine, we wouldn't be shocked if nothing happened, but if so, we'll update our guidance if we don't see a generic.

Thanks for that. You also were still very interested in the emerging markets. Has the availability in valuation on potential tuck-ins there gotten any more attractive as those markets have become a bit choppier? And does that create opportunities for you? Thanks.

Yes and yes. And you should probably expect to see us make some acquisitions over the rest of the year in some of the more attractive emerging markets.

That's very helpful, thanks.

David Risinger, Morgan Stanley.

I have one question for Mike and one question for Howard. Mike, could you update us on opportunities ahead to use stock for a large transaction? And whether there might be any opportunities to buy large assets out of big pharma?

And then Howard, as you are wrapping up in your role, could you provide some perspective on -- in light of your interactions with investors over the last four years and even more recently, what do you think investors on Wall Street most under-appreciate about Valeant? Thanks very much.

Thanks, David. Just like everyone on this call knows that we really, really value our stock. And we're always reluctant to use it, because it's a scarce asset and we continue to believe it's quite undervalued. If we can to continue to put up numbers like we have this quarter, which we expect to do, it will be undervalued.

That being said, if the right opportunity comes to create shareholder value, we'll figure out that all-in and do it. As we said at the beginning of the year, large deals are opportunistic. You can't predict when they're going to happen. And we were certainly not expecting to do a deal the size of Salix this year. But when we got a call and we took a look at the asset, and we decided it made sense. So we are not, right now, out there trying to look for a large deal to do, but we will continue to be opportunistic and do whatever makes sense for our shareholders.

And in terms of your second question, and I will give you an answer and also give it some more thought, and next time we see each other, we can talk about it in more detail. There's three or four things that come to mind initially.

I think, one, because deals get headlines, I think is a little bit of a misconception that we spend all of our time running around doing deals, where it's pretty much the opposite. We spend most of our time running around, trying to squeeze as much growth out of our existing collection of assets, as possible.

And related to that, I think is the value of our diversified business model, because very few of our products are well known to the broader world. I think it's tougher to have an appreciation for the potential growth potential which gets into the issue of terminal value, which I think is under-appreciated.

The secondary I'd say is the whole area of R&D, and maybe we are a little bit to blame. Though I think we got tagged with not believing in R&D, which couldn't be the furthest from the truth. And we have recognized like any technology Company that innovation is the lifeblood. It's just how we go about doing it, the risk rewards.

Our openness and willingness to acknowledge that we may not be the right people to develop everything we need to grow our business. Our willingness to go to third parties to license-in technology, get it through acquisitions.

I'm hoping that the world, they look at our R&D pipeline last year, this year, next year and the year after, and say the model really does work. Combination of internal development, acquisitions, in-licensing is going to work. But I think that's work in progress.

I think lastly, emerging markets. Because our strategy is so much different having a local Company, in an emerging markets versus most pharma companies take their US products and export them, and actually end up serving a very small percentage of the population. We're a local Company serving really the local person on the street. So it's much more of a long-term macroeconomic play on GDP growth and healthcare spend, which we could all argue year-to-year.

But over time I think we'd all agree that the emerging markets we are in, there's going to be tremendous growth in GDP. And tremendous growth in healthcare spend just won't be straight lined. So I'll give it some more thought, but those are some initial thoughts.

Great, thanks so much.

Greg Fraser, Deutsche Bank.

This is Greg Fraser on for Gregg Gilbert. On wholesaler inventory levels for the Salix products, will there be any further work done in 2016? Or do you plan to maintain inventories around the one and a half month level?

And then a question on Marathon, the sales figures for Isuprel and Nitropress on the top product table, do those reflect any adjustments? Or was there any buy-in that occurred ahead of the price increases that you took that affected sales for those products? Thank you.

In terms of the wholesale, what we have stated that they will be less than 1.5 times, and usually aim for about a month of inventory in the channel. But in the faster-growing products it's usually a little bit more because that's a backwards-looking month.

And so if you have a product that's growing quickly, a forward-looking month is a lot higher than a backwards-looking month. Most of the sales products are growing quite nicely. So my guess is it will be somewhere between one and one and a half months by the end of the year. And that's probably level we'll keep them at as long as the growth stays up, which I think is normal in the industry.

And also, Mike, the IBS-D indication for Xifaxan, which we didn't factor in, could have a huge impact on those levels.

Absolutely, absolutely. No, in terms of the price increases, on the two products you mentioned, the company that sold to us had done some pricing work and had identified the opportunities. They had a consultant come in. Those happened immediately, so there was no buy-in.

Douglas Miehm, RBC Capital Markets.

Thanks, Howard, and best wishes as well. Couple questions, just more housekeeping ones. Maybe you can tell us why it looks like the commercial vend for Ultra slipped a little bit from the first quarter into May. I know that you're expecting to have several other lines for Ultra come on stream probably over the next 12 months as well. Maybe you can talk to the timing as to those.

Second question has to do with Vesneo. Maybe Ari, if he's around, can talk about the competitive environment. I know that you haven't put out data yet and you're likely going to publish that. But given a few things that happened in the marketplace do you see the competitive positioning for that product having improved?

And then finally, Mike, do you see an opportunity for Provenge to any degree in Europe? I'll leave it there. Thanks.

Okay. So Ultra, you want to take the Ultra too? Okay, Ari will take all of them.

Well, no not all of them. (laughter) On Ultra, we are already producing commercial venders. We're just going through validation, so we have that underway. We expect by the middle or third week in May to be able to release the commercial production vending quality.

So that's the pitch. That's good, and that's line one. And we have line two on track for September-ish this year. So that's Ultra.

Two lines next year.

Yes, two lines next year, exactly. Other question was -- Vesneo, as we've said that, we've always been positive on Vesneo. It's a breakthrough in the monotherapy versus prostaglandin, so we've held to that thesis. Obviously, the news of a competitor trial makes us more confident about the outlook for Vesneo.

And Provenge has been approved in Europe. But the pricing so far that we've been able to get in Europe does not make it something that we probably want to do by ourselves. So we'll probably look for a partner in Western Europe to see if someone else wants to take the product.

And right now our we are focusing our efforts on the US. First the focus was to make it profitable, which we have. The second priority is to grow it, which hopefully we can report back in another quarter or two that we are starting to grow it. And I think staying very focused in the US and making it a growing profitable product is our short-term mission in terms of Provenge.

And more on Ultra. We're going to launch the Multi Focal at the end of this year. We'll already be validating and producing Toric sometime in Q4. So again, well on track for release of commercial product early Q1 and maybe earlier.

And each of those lines can do $150 million?

That's a rough estimate. Obviously as we release Ultra and Toric and Multi Focal, the ASPs will rise. So $150 million is a reasonable estimate per line.

Great, thank you.

Umer Raffat, Evercore ISI.

A couple for Howard and one for Mike. Howard, best of luck to you. There's a lot of shareholder interest in this, so I'm compelled to ask a bit more. Wanted to understand the timing of news. We understand that right around your three-year anniversary date, you had another 3-year equity award. Wanted to understand timing there.

And then separately, what's the EBITDA expectation for 2015? Not 2016, but EBITDA expectation for 2015? And what was that number for 2014?

And then Mike, my last question. Jublia is up 87% quarter on quarter on TRx. I think the sales were up about 20%-ish. Wanted to understand trends there. Thank you very much.

So again, in terms of the timing, this was a decision that, while we've been having discussions for a period of time, the decision was just made. So up until the decision was made, it was business as usual. So I wouldn't draw any connection between those two.

In terms of the EBITDA for 2014, that you can get from our public filings. I don't have that in front of me. For 2015, the easiest -- we are giving you the guidance. We've told you what the interest expense -- we are paying 5.1% on our interest expense for the rest of the year. And we've given you our tax, you should assume tax rate stays roughly the same.

So the only missing piece is stock-based comp and depreciation. Depreciation is running a little over $50 million a quarter, so that's $200-plus million. And stock-based comp is a little over $100 million. So I think you can pretty easily, from our updated guidance you can get there very, very easily.

In terms of Jublia, in our prepared remarks I think we mentioned that the difference between the growth in scripts and the growth in revenues, is basically what's out there in the channel in inventory. When you launch a product, there's a fair amount of inventory that's put in. Every pharmacy, the wholesalers, so you only see that on launch brand that early on there's a lot of sales that are just filling up the channel. Those have all been reduced.

And our sales especially into specialty pharmacies, we have our inventory levels very, very low. Well below two weeks. I think going forward what you'll see is, which is the important thing, is the growth in script trends. And the growth in Jublia revenues will match dollar to dollar from Q2 going forward.

Thank you very much.

Okay, thank you, everyone. And we'll talk to you next quarter.

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.