Biodesix Inc (BDSX) 2025 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Biodesix's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions)

Please be advised today's conference is being recorded. I will not attend the conference over your speaker today. Chris Brinzy, please go ahead.

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Today, Bioodesics released results from the third quarter of 2025.

Leading the call today will be Scott Hutton, Chief Executive Officer. He is joined by Robin Harper Cowie, Chief Financial Officer.

An audio recording of today's call and the press release announcement with the quarterly results can be found in the investor relations section of the company's website at biodesics.com.

As today's call includes forward-looking statements, we encourage you to review the statements contained in today's press release and the risks and uncertainties described in our SEC filings.

Which identify certain factors that may cause the company's actual events, performance, and results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements made on today's webcast.

In addition, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures on this call. Descriptions of these non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures are included in today's press release.

I would now like to turn the call over to Scott Hutton, Chief Executive Officer. Scott.

Thank you, Chris, and thank you all for joining us today.

At Bioodesics, our mission is to transform patient care and improve outcomes through personalized diagnostics that are timely, accessible, and address immediate clinical needs.

We leverage a multimodal approach that includes genomics, proteomics, and radioomics combined with AI to discover, develop, and commercialize innovative diagnostic tests for physicians, biopharmaceutical, life sciences, and diagnostic companies to help improve patient care.

In 2025 we are focused on three main goals growing our top-line revenue.

Improving operational effectiveness and efficiencies that will help drive a positive adjusted EA in the fourth quarter and advancing our pipeline for future growth and expansion.

In the third quarter we made progress on all three of these goals. Our growth is accelerating with revenue up 20%.

We improved upon our already strong gross margins by 400 basis points to 81%. We improved adjusted EBITDA by 18%, and we presented clinical data that continues to support the use of our on-market products and demonstrates the potential of our product pipeline.

Starting with our clinical offerings and lung diagnostics, our major focus remains on lung nodule management, where nodules are either found during low dose CT screening for lung cancer or incidentally when the patient has an image taken for another purpose.

We have implemented a three-tiered commercial strategy that helps to improve the management of patients with lung nodules and increases the growth potential of our on-market test.

This strategy started at the launch of notified testing with the interventional pulmonologists who are typically responsible for diagnosing lung cancer.

We then expanded into their referral network in general and community pulmonology.

Most recently in this past year, we have very selectively expanded further into the referral network by calling on primary care providers.

By taking this next step into the pulmonology referral network, we have expanded our access to the available nodule market that includes 50% of patients with pulmonary nodules who are managed in primary care.

This approach enhances the value of notified lung testing by first helping general pulmonologists and primary care providers triage patients by risk of malignancy to be referred in for intervention or managed locally, then helping interventionists prioritize higher risk patients for prompt diagnostic intervention.

Our first large cohort of primary care sales representatives were in the field for the full third quarter, and we've been encouraged both with the response from providers and with test adoption from their target accounts.

Prior to the initiation of our primary care pilot conducted in 2024, only 4% of notified tests were ordered from primary care.

In the short time this new effort has been in place, that number has increased to 11% in September.

Overall, total tests ordered from primary care in the third quarter grew 75% over the third quarter of 24.

Last week, Dr. Susan Garwood, the national physician director for Pulmonology Service Line, pulmonologist and thoracic oncology medical director for HCA Enterprise, conducted a national webinar on notified lung entitled A Triage Tool Supporting Primary Care Referral Decisions.

During the presentation, Dr. Garwood shared the early experience of a foue clinic primary care practice that recently implemented notified lung testing to assess lung cancer risk across their large patient population.

By implementing notified lung testing, they identified multiple patients with early stage lung cancer, where curative surgery remained a viable option while avoiding unnecessary strain on bronchoscopy suite resources that would otherwise be required to evaluate dozens of patients.

A recording of this webinar is available on our website. We continue to receive similar positive feedback and success stories from our team and directly from healthcare providers nationwide as we execute our strategy.

We've also made significant progress in making it easier for clinicians to order and implement our test in their practices. In fact, one added benefit to our expanded sales strategy is the availability of on-site blood draw capabilities.

This has historically been a challenge in pulmonology where we frequently need to leverage our extensive mobile phlebotomy network to draw blood away from the office.

Once a patient leaves the physician's office, we face the all too common challenge of patient compliance to ensure the blood draw is completed.

Completing the blood collection on site before a patient leaves the facility either through on-site phlebotomy services or through our own capillary draw kits, resulting in more tests being delivered than if the patient leaves and needs to schedule a blood draw at another time.

Ordering the test in the primary care setting and collecting the sample on site helps to overcome this challenge. Similarly, electronic ordering streamlines the process and ease of use for the physicians in their office. Customer retention in those offices who utilize digital ordering is significantly higher than those who do not.

Since notify launch, we've expanded our digital test ordering capabilities through our bioethics physician portal and a number of early EHR integrations.

Through these efforts, our digital ordering has increased by 43% over last year.

In the third quarter, we had an average of 85 sales reps in the field who delivered 15,700 total lung diagnostic tests, up 13% year over year.

We are continuing to execute on our stated strategy and plans and are expecting to have an average of 93 to 97 reps in the fourth quarter.

Next year we anticipate returning to a cadence of adding approximately 6 per quarter, continuing to drive patient access to cutting edge diagnostic testing.

In addition to our volume growth, our average revenue per test improved by 7% over the second quarter of 25.

Due to our market access team's success in gaining more coverage and contracting for our test, as well as process improvements and subsequent successes from our revenue cycle management team.

In addition to our commercial efforts, we continue to generate clinical evidence to drive physician and payer adoption of notified testing.

2 weeks ago at CES, which is the largest annual pulmonology meeting, we presented interim data from our clarified study.

New health economics and outcomes data and there were multiple independent presentations and abstracts on notified.

Clarify is a retrospective chart review evaluating the use of notified testing in real world clinical practice, expecting to enroll approximately 4,000 patients.

In the presentation, Dr. Michael Kammer, the head of AI and radioomics at Bioethics, reviewed data on notified CDT from the 1st 1,000 patients enrolled in the study just one year after the study began.

The data showed consistent performance of notified CDT in a real world setting versus prior clinical research with similar sensitivity and specificity.

This study is an important addition to our existing evidence package for notified testing, introducing data from a real world environment that will continue to reinforce the clinical utility of notify.

The results from the independent analysis build on existing clinical evidence showing the value of notified testing at independent practices across the country, the performance of the test in nodules detected in lung cancer screening programs, and showing that notified testing had superior performance as compared to PET scans.

More data will be released in the coming months, including at the upcoming ISAC ASCO North American Conference on Lung Cancer in December. Shifting to development services, we continue to see strong interest in our partnership service offering.

We leverage our multi-omic approach and R&D expertise to help deliver insights that our biopharma, life science tools, and diagnostic partners use to personalize patient care and help improve disease detection and treatment decisions across various disease types.

In the third quarter, we delivered $1.9 million in revenue, growing 97% year over year.

The funnel has also continued to grow with the team exiting the quarter with $12.9 million under contract but not yet recognized, representing a 16% increase over last year at this time and another all-time high.

Moving to our product development pipeline and services partnerships, we had multiple presentations on our products in development at a number of medical and scientific meetings.

Our current pipeline consists of our combination proteomic and genomic MRD test, expanded indications for Verisstrat into several new tumor types with immunotherapy selection and digital diagnostics.

Multiple presentations on the MRD test were presented at the Tricon Precision Medicine Conference, the AACR annual meeting, and DDPCR World.

Our unique MRD test combines the proteomic information from our risk of recurrence test that can give insights into a patient's immune profile, along with tumor-informed genomics that leverage the high sensitivity and specificity of multiplex droplet digital PCR for disease monitoring.

One exciting recent update is an expanded product development partnership with BIORAD Laboratories in which we will conduct the development, clinical validation, and regulatory submissions of certain high complexity in vitro diagnostic assays based on [BIORAD's DDPCR] technology.

The first essay will be ESR1, which is becoming critical in HR positive HER2 negative advanced breast cancer.

We expect the partnership to expand, enabling highly sensitive and specific detection of additional genomic markers utilizing BIORAD's QX 600 platform.

This is another key partnership in addition to those already announced with Thermo Fisher Scientific and Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center and are examples of the strength of the bioethics Development Services offering, including the conduct of assays under design control, quality management systems, regulatory and reimbursement support for in vitro diagnostics.

Coming up on November 12th at the AMP annual meeting in Boston, representatives from BIORAD, Thermo Fisher, and Memorial Sloan Kettering will join a panel led by Dr. Garyeststano, our Chief Development Officer, to present on the bioethics R&D developments, our unique and highly specialized partnerships with these premier institutions, and updates to the product pipeline.

A recording will be available on our website following the event. Overall, we are very encouraged by the continued strong year over year growth in this business and believe there is significant potential for upside as both existing business and additional opportunities mature.

Finally, turning to guidance, based upon how we close the third quarter and based upon the momentum we're seeing early in the fourth quarter, we are comfortable increasing our revenue guidance range for 2025 to $84 million to $86 million.

With that, let me turn it over to Robin for a review of our financial performance for the quarter. Robin.

Thanks, Scott, and good afternoon, everyone.

Third quarter total revenue was $21.8 million, a 20% increase over the prior year. Lung diagnostic testing revenue in the third quarter of 2025 was $19.8 million from approximately 15,700 tests as compared to $17.2 million from approximately 13,900 tests for the third quarter of 2024, representing 13% growth in test volumes and 16% growth in revenue.

And accelerating growth in both volume and revenue over second quarter results. Several quarters ago, you may recall that we discussed an issue we were having with a couple of Medicare Advantage plans instituting administrative barriers to paying claims for our Medicare covered tests.

In the third quarter, following the efforts of our market access and revenue cycle management teams, one of the largest plans restarted paying for current claims, which contributed to the increase in ASP.

Please note that we are still working with the plans in our attempts to collect on older claims, which were not recognized as revenue or booked as AR in the past.

Development services revenue was $19 million in the quarter, representing 97% year over year growth. We ended the third quarter with $12.9 million under contract and as Scott previously mentioned, this represents another all-time high.

Our gross margin percentage in the third quarter of 2025 was 81%, up 400 basis points from 77% in the third quarter of 2024. Despite continued supply cost pressure and existing macroeconomic uncertainty, we expect gross margins to remain near 80% to finish out the year.

Overall operating expense excluding direct costs and expenses was $24.7 million in the third quarter, which was a 10% increase over the third quarter of 2024 and a 4% decrease versus the second quarter of 25. Total SG&A was $21.7 million versus $20 million in the third quarter of '24, an 8% increase.

Of note, total SG&A was a 3% decrease versus last quarter, despite having 11% or 15% more sales reps in the field. As Scott said before, we are continuing to scale the sales team and expect 93 to 97 sales reps in the field in the fourth quarter.

R&D expense was $3.0 million versus $2.5 million or a $500,000 increase year over year but a $300,000 decrease from the second quarter. R&D reflects the investments in clinical studies to help advance adoption of our lung diagnostic tests and advancement of our pipeline.

Net loss for the third quarter of 2025 was $8.7 million, an improvement of 15% year over year, and improvement of 24% over the second quarter of '25.

Adjusted EBITDA, which excludes non-cash and other one-time items, was a loss of $4.6 million which was an improvement of 18% year over year and an improvement of 36% over the second quarter.

We ended the quarter with $16.6 million in unrestricted cash and cash equivalents, which was impacted by timing of collections, resulting in a $5.2 million increase in accounts receivable offset by net cash inflows of $4.8 million from our ATM facility.

The increase in accounts receivable reflects higher lung diagnostics revenue, newly secured development services agreements, and the timing of cash receipts which have been collected during the fourth quarter.

As Scott discussed, we are updating our full year 2025 revenue guidance to $84 million to $86 million for the year.

Because of our strong gross margins and the planned and actual expansion of the sales team and the rep productivity achieved to date, we expect to achieve adjusted EBITDA positivity in the fourth quarter.

Now I'll turn it back to Scott for some closing thoughts before the Q&A. Scott.

Thank you, Robin.

To summarize our achievements in the third quarter, we delivered accelerating revenue growth. We improved our already strong gross margins to greater than 80%. We maintained our cost conscious approach, resulting in a quarter over quarter decrease in operating expense.

We improved both net loss and adjusted EBITDA on our path to profitability.

We continued the execution of our strategies, including the expansion of our sales team, increase in our service revenue and funnel, and the addition of new partnerships, and we presented data on our existing tests and pipeline.

Before moving on to questions, I want to restate that we have the best lung health focused team in diagnostics and continue to make significant progress in developing a market in an area that has not historically used diagnostics in the way that other medical or oncology specialties have with first mover advantage in lung nodule management.

And an ever increasing body of robust clinical and health economic data, we are creating the momentum to drive greater clinical and payer adoption as we move through 2025 and beyond. With all that's happening, it's a very exciting time here at Biodesics. We look forward to sharing more with you in the coming quarters.

I would also like to remind everyone that November is Lung Cancer Awareness Month, a month dedicated to educating people on this deadly disease and driving awareness that early detection can save lives.

Let's now move on to questions operator. Let's start the Q&A section.

(Operator Instructions)

Our first question comes from Andrew Bragman with William Blair. Your line is open.

Hi everyone, this is Maggie Bouy on for Andrew. Thanks for taking our questions. Maybe first just to start, Scott, is there any way you can talk about some of the signals or proof points that your primary care expansion is working, appreciate that commentary you provided in the prepared remarks about the volume growth contribution from PCPs, but just any other color you can provide there.

Yeah, thanks, Maggie. I appreciate the question.

Yeah, we've highlighted that this is not about us just going out and cold calling on primary care practices, and so those initial proof points really start when a pulmonologist encourages us and introduces us to their referral network.

It's a warm handoff and introduction. They usually stay involved in that early education, and so we get immediate feedback. We have the ability to receive questions from the primary care physician.

When we compare that to what we saw in our pilot that we conducted last year, it's very consistent and so we think we're continuing to make progress, our marketing materials are slightly different. The questions are a little bit different than pulmonologists because their practices are different.

So each and every month we get a little bit better on that front and as we gain more traction and have additional success, we've got greater confidence and so it really is about broader adoption and utilization. One of the things we're tracking, Maggie, and we'll share more about it in coming months and quarters is we really are starting to see primary care physicians highlight earlier detection and diagnosis.

And so one of their biggest fears that primary care is that a patient might sit in their practice. And they've missed a cancer. And so in a number of these early adopters on the primary care side, they're starting to track that they're getting earlier diagnosis and so we feel confident that long-term that'll make a significant impact in those patients' lives.

And so we'll look forward to sharing additional data as we have it.

Great, thanks for that color. And then maybe just next, I know you have that R&D event next week, but so don't want to steal any thunder from that. But just anything you can share with respect to some of the ways you look to expand your product portfolio as we move into 2026.

What should investors be on the lookout for and how should we think about investment into those expansions?

Yeah, great question, Maggie. Appreciate it. We're really excited about AMP. We had highlighted earlier this year that we had we had hoped to have an R&D day. We chose to utilize AMP for that because of our partners.

BIORAD, Thermo Fisher, Memorial Sloan Kettering will all be there, so they'll all be participating in our R&D day. So what you can expect is really an update on all of the ongoing efforts that we have with them. And we will talk a little bit more about our pipeline and so as As you ask, thinking about 2026 and beyond.

We know that our product development pipeline is underappreciated, and we plan to change that. We'll continue to highlight the progress that we've made. We think that we've got some exciting new developments that we can share and hopefully commercialize additional tests in the years to come. But Gary Pastano, our Chief Development Officer, will be leading that.

We anticipate additional follow-up calls with him. We will, have a recording of that amp R&D day, so that we'll post that on our website and others will have the ability to see it, but, we think partnership, our partners speak volumes.

And knowing that Memorial Sloan Katterine chose us, Bioed chose us, and Thermo Fisher chose us, allowing them the opportunity to share why they chose us, what makes us different, and how that will be meaningful to patients long-term, we think that speaks volumes and so we're eager to let them speak.

Great, thanks so much.

Thanks, Maggie.

One moment for our next question.

Our next question comes from Kyle Mixon with Canoco Genuity. Your line is open.

Hi everyone, this is Alex the one for Kyle Mixson. Congrats on a solid quarter. So I guess just taking a step back. So we've expanded the sales force from 65 reps in one. Now we're at around 85 and 3, expecting that 93 to 97 again for 4Q.

So that's fantastic. But could you just elaborate on the ramp up the ramp up of the new sales reps as well as roughly what you think peak average sales per rep could be at full productivity. Thanks.

Yeah, Alex, great question. One of the things that we used the pilot with PCP last year to assess was if the call point was different and then what that sales rep productivity could look like.

One of the things that we shared was that the ramp was consistent and so from hiring to training and onboarding we saw a consistent performance improvement over time. We've seen that stay consistent now that we've begun the expansion.

And so we feel confident, and we keep striving to get back into that minimum $1 million per sales rep in terms of sales rep productivity, and we've seen, opportunities there to continue to grow and expand that. So we're we're confident that we can do that as we continue to hire these professionals, we'll continue to build a narrative around territories since it's a complementary team approach.

We'll have 50 territories here as we exit Q4 going into 2026. We're going to continue to invest as we've stated, and build up that sales force at about six sales reps per quarter. It'll be a mix between associate sales consultants and primary care focused sales consultants. We feel strongly that the 50 territories that we have locked today, we won't have to hire additional pulmonology sales consultants.

So from a rep productivity metric we To get them back to what we saw before we began hiring them and then continue to leverage their access into into primary care. We're eager to prove that out and we'll look forward to sharing some of those performance metrics at the end of the fourth quarter and as we progress into 2026.

That's fantastic.

Thank you very much. And one more for me. So switching gears a little bit, do you feel that increased direct competition in the space, as well as new tests across lung cancer testing continuum, could potentially be necessary to push some milestones on space forward such as he measures or updates the test guidelines. Thanks.

Yeah, Alex, it's a great question. You know what what's been interesting over time is lung has been particularly difficult. We've seen a number of diagnostic competitors enter the space and and exit and or stop.

We've got a significant first mover advantage. We continue to focus on what we can control, putting, everything in place to ensure that those patients in dire need are getting the support that they need. There's a lot of really interesting research ongoing.

There have been some introductions on the therapeutic side. None of that hurts. The more awareness that we bring to this, the better off we're going to be, the heinous measures getting pushed out was disappointing, but we're still eager to do our part.

One of the things that we do know is that when we get broader screening adoption, we're going to identify. Those patients at high risk at a greater rate. When we do notify testing will benefit and provide strategic value there, so. We continue to play our part.

We feel confident about the offering that we have and the value we're providing, but we're also cheering for those blood-based lung cancer screening tests because we know that those those tests will only allow us to provide earlier detection and diagnosis.

And again, here we are in November, which is Lung Cancer Awareness Month, where we're advocating for awareness and early detection and diagnosis. So yeah, we do think that rising tide raises all ships.

Thank you very much.

One moment for our next question.

Our next question comes from Thomas Flatton with Lake Street Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions. Robin, would you be willing to quantify the amount of the Medicare Advantage back pay that you got in the third quarter?

We didn't actually get much back pay in the third quarter. It was more that they started paying on new claims. So there was no unusual amount of revenue in the third quarter from back claims.

So following on from that, then how sustainable do you think that uptake in ASP is going forward? She has a similar uptake in the third quarter of last year. Do we expected to rebound back down or can you help us think about that?

I think the quarter of last year we did have some back claims, and I think we talked about that in the quarter.

I'll be sure to call that out if and when we do collect on back claims so that you can look at sort of a normalized ASP, but what we're seeing is we're seeing consistent payments on those Medicare Advantage claims, and we feel good about that going forward.

Got it. And then of the increase in the guide and just primarily an upping of the lower and how much of that is due to the diagnostic revenue versus the services revenue?

It's very heavily tied to the diagnostics revenue that's the lion's share portion of the Of the revenue for the company and so as that moves, so does the total.

Awesome I appreciate it thank you.

Thanks Thomas.

One moment for our next question.

Our next question comes from William William Ruby with TD Cow and your line is open.

Thank you. This is William on for Dan. On the address that you bit of positivity, just wondering kind of where your confidence level stands on reaching that in the fourth quarter and then just what are your views on capital needs over the next few years with your cash where it stands right now.

Thank you.

Yes, hi, William. Thanks for listening today.

We feel pretty confident about reaching adjusted positivity in the fourth quarter with the way we ended the third quarter and the strength going into the fourth quarter. We feel good about about that guy.

And then on the capital needs front we feel good about where we are. We're continuing to increase our revenue. We improved our gross margins. We kept our OpEx pretty much flat, and we're continuing to build to that cash flow break even.

So while we did use a little bit of the ATM in the third quarter partially to offset the increase in AR that we saw. Which we noted in the call, we collected that money in the fourth quarter. We continue to drive towards profitability based on the existing business.

All right, thank you.

And I'm not showing any further questions this time. I turned the call back over to Scott for any further remarks.

Thank you, operator. In closing, I want to express my gratitude to all the remarkable members of the bioethics team who have shown unwavering belief in and dedication to our mission, vision, and culture.

Our collective commitment and daily contributions are centered around making a positive impact on the lives of patients through our healthcare provider customers and our industry partners. I'm truly thankful for your efforts.

Thank you. You may now disconnect.

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