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  • Operator

  • Good morning, and welcome to the AutoZone conference call.

  • (Operator Instructions) Please be advised today's call is being recorded.

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  • This conference call will discuss AutoZone's fourth quarter earnings release.

  • Bill Rhodes, the company's Chairman, President and CEO, will be making a short presentation on the highlights of the quarter.

  • The conference call will end promptly at 10:00 a.m.

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  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

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  • We'll just have Brian

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  • Brian L. Campbell - Treasurer

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  • Operator

  • And now I will hand the call over to Mr. Bill Rhodes.

  • You may now begin.

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for AutoZone's 2018 fourth quarter conference call.

  • With me today are Bill Giles, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and Brian Campbell, Vice President, Treasurer, Investor Relations and Tax.

  • Regarding the fourth quarter, I hope you've had an opportunity to read our press release and learn about the quarter's results.

  • If not, the press release, along with slides complementing our comments today, are available on our website, www.autozoneinc.com.

  • Please click on Quarterly Earnings Conference Calls to see them.

  • To begin this morning, I want to thank all AutoZoners across the company for their hard work, dedication and commitment this past quarter and year.

  • Our sales results for the fiscal fourth quarter improved from last quarter, with May and August outperforming June and July.

  • And all months experienced positive comp store sales in both retail and commercial.

  • Sales results, as many of you would expect, were stronger in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and Midwestern markets, as our harsh winter created parts failures in these markets.

  • Our sales results, however, were noticeably below our expectations in several Western markets.

  • We attribute this sluggishness out West to comparatively mild and rainy weather for much of the summer versus last year.

  • While our sales performance improved, we certainly felt we had opportunities to do even better.

  • We executed a significant amount of changes in the second half of fiscal 2018, including product category changeovers, supply chain changes, and we stopped our digital ship-to-home promotions.

  • In hindsight, this was a tremendous amount of simultaneous change, and our execution, while terrific in many areas, didn't meet our standard of flawless and negatively impacted our business.

  • As we enter the new fiscal year, most of these are behind us or improving quickly.

  • While we continued to gain share, the more robust market share gains we experienced in the first half of the fiscal year subsided in the second half, and we are committed to regaining that momentum very quickly.

  • We remain encouraged by the health of the consumer and the health of our business.

  • We are bullish on our business for the new year.

  • We continue to make good progress on our initiatives that are aimed at improving our ability to say yes to our customers more frequently, drive traffic to our stores and accelerate our commercial business.

  • To remind everyone, those initiatives for the past year included: improving local market inventory availability, growing our U.S. commercial business, leveraging the Internet and investing in IT at accelerated rates across the entire enterprise.

  • Regarding enhancing parts coverage in the United States, we continued expanding our supply chain network in the quarter, adding 3 new mega hub stores and 78 new stores.

  • In addition to opening 2 new domestic distribution centers over the last 5 quarters and expanding another, we are extensively leveraging our hub network to provide expanded parts coverage at the local level, where the customer demands are immediate.

  • As you'd expect, we study our sales results in markets that receive additional parts coverage with hubs, and we see noticeable increases in comp store sales when we open these locations.

  • We rely on our mega hubs to act as distribution nodes for hard-to-find parts for their network stores.

  • We ended the year with 24 mega hubs, have been very pleased with their performance and expect to open many more in fiscal 2019.

  • In our commercial business, we saw our best quarterly sales performance since Q1 2016, improving nearly 9%, while having opened fewer than 150 net commercial programs for the year.

  • Our productivity per commercial program was very strong year-over-year.

  • We were encouraged that this growth was from both winning more business with existing customers and gaining new customers.

  • We are gaining momentum, driving more sales through existing programs and customers while still adding new customers all along the way.

  • And our accelerated investments in technological enhancements to improve our service and grow all of our businesses continues at a strong clip.

  • We're investing at the highest levels ever for our company to deliver on some pretty aggressive internally established goals.

  • One of those goals that we've been focusing on is next-day delivery.

  • At quarter end, customers in 83 major metropolitan markets can place an order as late as 10 p.m.

  • and have their order delivered by early afternoon the next day.

  • Our expectation is a majority of our ship-to-home orders will be fulfilled this way in the future.

  • Although this is not a significant part of our sales mix today, it is growing rapidly, and we believe it's another example of providing wow customer service and enhancing our value proposition to our customers.

  • As we gain confidence in our ability to execute, we will begin more aggressively advertising this unique and differentiated service offering.

  • Before getting into more detail about the quarter, I want to share our perspective on some of the trends and tailwinds that our industry and specifically our business have seen.

  • First, the customer appears to be getting healthier, and the rebound in our industry sales this summer illustrated that improvement.

  • Some of this stems from the cold winter in a large part of the country that, in turn, increased demand of failure and maintenance-related parts.

  • Our business in cold-weather markets easily outperformed the remainder of the country, with the spread and comp sales between 200 and 300 basis points throughout the quarter.

  • Surprisingly, we did not do as well out West, with comp sales noticeably weaker than other parts of the United States.

  • We can attribute some of this weakness to a milder summer than last year, but we also believe we have some considerable opportunities for improvement.

  • As I had said earlier, our quarter began very well in May.

  • However, it softened in June and July, only to reaccelerate again in August.

  • While our overall sales improved for the quarter, we believe they should have been more robust.

  • We had some significant vendor transitions in the second half of our fiscal year, and several of those transitions did not go as planned, resulting in unacceptable in-stock positions and sales shortfalls in those particular categories.

  • We have addressed those challenges and feel we are better positioned heading into the new fiscal year.

  • We also believe, once these transitions are successfully completed, we will be in improved competitive positions.

  • And as we opened our Ocala distribution center, re-optimized our supply chain and implemented our final multiple-frequency-of-delivery schedule changes, that, too, was a significant amount of change for the organization to absorb.

  • And we decided back in February, at the end of our second fiscal quarter, to eliminate online promotions for ship-to-home sales.

  • We were concerned about the potential channel conflict.

  • After several months of being dark in promos, while competitors continued to promote, we became concerned that we potentially were or could negatively impact our customers' value proposition of us.

  • As a result of eliminating promotions, those direct sales went from adding about 10 basis points to our comp to becoming a headwind in the quarter of roughly 30 basis points or approximately 40 basis points lower comp in the second half of the year.

  • While we were intentional with our removal of the promotions and believe, long term, it may create more channel conflict, we recently reinstituted promotions to better assess their overall impact on traffic, both online and in-store, and overall sales.

  • Combined, all these various issues negatively impacted our sales performance in the quarter.

  • While we will never flawlessly execute in every aspect of our business, this quarter, we believe we had a disproportionate amount of opportunities and believe we have resolved most of them as we begin the new year.

  • Over the last year, we've been highlighting accelerated wage pressures and the impact those pressures have on our operating expenses in the upcoming year.

  • We plan on investing in wages for targeted positions across our hourly store teams this fall, with specific emphasis on the most critical positions and our most tenured AutoZoners.

  • It is important to note, those wage changes will go into effect midway through this -- our first quarter of fiscal 2019.

  • It is also important to note, that means the first full quarter with the incremental expense will be our second quarter, which is always our most challenging profitability quarter.

  • In addition, we accelerated our investments in employee benefits and information technology.

  • These investments will cause operating expenses as a percent of sales to increase.

  • However, we do expect these investments over the long term to improve our performance.

  • In fiscal 2018, our results included many moving pieces: the sale of 2 businesses and related impairments, the new tax law and, this quarter, the termination of our pension plan and related settlement charge.

  • Our expectation for 2019 is it will include far fewer unusual items or moving pieces.

  • However, it will include 2 significant items.

  • In fiscal 2018, we enjoyed only a portion of the lower effective tax rates as our fiscal year straddled the tax reform changes.

  • Next year, we will receive the full benefit, and our blended tax rate will decline from roughly 30% to closer to 24.5%.

  • Additionally, we will have a 53rd week, and our fourth quarter will include 17 weeks instead of the typical 16 weeks.

  • To model the extra week, I encourage you to review fiscal 2013 and specifically the fourth quarter.

  • We broke out the financials for that week in our earnings release, showing how the extra week contributed to the quarter.

  • To conclude my comments on the macro economy, I'd say, the consumer is healthy and we think 2019 can be a solid year for us and our industry.

  • Now let me provide more detail on the quarter.

  • For the quarter, our sales increased 1.3% and our domestic same-store sales were up 2.2%.

  • During the quarter, we opened 78 new stores in the United States.

  • For the year, we opened 153 net new stores and expect to open approximately 150 domestic stores in 2019.

  • Our commercial business expanded by 8.8%, while opening 149 net new programs this year.

  • Our commercial growth accelerated from last quarter's 7.3%.

  • We again expect to open approximately 150 net new commercial programs for this fiscal year.

  • Currently, 85% of our domestic stores have a commercial program.

  • During the quarter, we continued to expand in Mexico, opening 28 new stores, and we opened 4 new stores in Brazil.

  • While we'd hoped to have up to 25 Brazil locations opened by the end of the year, we expect these stores to open in fiscal 2019.

  • We have been doing business in Brazil since 2013, and we expect to accelerate our location expansions in 2019.

  • Regarding the Internet, we will continue to invest in our capabilities and customer experience.

  • Our goal is to create a seamless omnichannel experience for our customers, meeting them where, when and how they want to interact with us.

  • We remain focused on improving our closure rates, meaning converting customer requests for pricing and availability into sales.

  • In the spirit of satisfying our customers, we are making ongoing system investments and enhancements to capture data about our customers' shopping patterns across all of our platforms, both domestically and internationally.

  • We understand we must be able to share information and process seamlessly between our stores, commercial shops, phone and online experiences to meet all of our customers' needs.

  • We expect our loyalty program and its vast membership to continue to help us mine customer shopping behaviors and grow sales materially in the future.

  • This remains a significant focus for us in 2019.

  • As our primary objective remains growing our domestic retail and commercial businesses, we continued with our inventory availability initiatives to respond to the ever-increasing challenge of parts proliferation in this industry.

  • This past quarter, we opened 3 additional mega hub locations and now have 24 in operation.

  • We are working diligently on the development of future sites, and we expect to open approximately 10 more in 2019.

  • We now expect to ultimately operate a larger number of hubs and mega hubs than we previously planned.

  • This number will evolve over time.

  • However, we feel that hub network, for us, is the most efficient way to provide enhanced local market availability.

  • Along with improving our local parts availability and assortment, we continue to manage this organization to provide exceptional service for our customers, provide our AutoZoners with a great place to work with opportunities for advancement and ensure we do it on a long-term profitable basis to provide strong returns for our shareholders.

  • We will continue to stress the importance of going the extra mile to fulfill our customers' needs regardless of how difficult the request.

  • Regarding Mexico, we opened 28 new stores this quarter and ended the year with 564 stores.

  • We're planning to open another 40 stores next year.

  • In local currency, Mexico experienced a solid quarter, while the exchange rate was a headwind to the reported U.S. dollar sales.

  • The peso exchange rate was 7.3% higher than last year's Q4 ending rate.

  • Sales in our other businesses for the quarter were down 48% over last year's fourth quarter due to the divestiture of our AutoAnything business and lower e-commerce ship-to-home sales.

  • As a reminder, our ALLDATA and e-commerce businesses make up this segment of sales.

  • We recognize that most of our site traffic is providing information to our customers prior to purchase, and our e-commerce platform represents an important part of our omnichannel experience.

  • We see customers doing lots of research to learn about the products and how to do repairs.

  • While these businesses are small for us, the omnichannel experience is very important for our customer experience, and we'll continue -- we will continue to invest in this platform.

  • With continued aging of the car population, we continue to be optimistic regarding trends for the industry, both in DIY and DIFM.

  • As new vehicle sales are near all-time highs and gas prices, while higher than last year, remain range-bound in the $2.80 a gallon area, miles driven continue to increase.

  • We, not surprisingly, desire lower gas prices as the lower-end consumer benefits the most from lower gas prices relative to income.

  • There have also been many questions about the impact tariffs could have on our business in 2019.

  • Up to this point, we have not experienced material cost increases from tariffs.

  • As for those SKUs impacted, we have successfully passed the costs along in higher retails.

  • However, a larger number of tariffs are slated to be imposed in the next couple of weeks.

  • These tariffs should be more significant.

  • In the short term, we expect to be able to manage our way through any changes, and we continue to expect to ultimately pass these costs along as the entire industry would be affected similarly.

  • Regarding commercial, we opened 58 net new programs during the quarter for 149 for the year.

  • This was down from last year's 202 opened programs.

  • Our expectation is we will continue to open new programs in the range of 150 in 2019.

  • As we continue to improve our product assortments and availability and as we make other refinements to our commercial offerings, we expect that our sales potential from this market will grow.

  • Commercial continues to be the most significant midterm growth opportunity for the company as we currently have approximately 3% market share, and we are determined to substantially grow that over time.

  • We should also highlight another strong performance in return on invested capital as we were able to finish our fourth quarter at 32.1%.

  • We continue to be pleased with this metric as it is one of the best in all of hardlines retailing.

  • However, our primary focus has been and continues to be that we ensure every incremental dollar of capital that we deploy in this business provides an acceptable return well in excess of our cost of capital.

  • It is important to reinforce that we will always maintain our diligence regarding capital stewardship as the capital we invest is our investors' capital.

  • Before I pass the discussion over to Bill Giles to talk about our financial results, I'd like to thank and reinforce how appreciative we are to our entire team's efforts to continue to meet and exceed our customers' wants, needs and desires.

  • All credit goes to our AutoZoners as we could not achieve our goals without their exceptional efforts they give each and every day.

  • We are bullish about 2019 sales potential because we have a great business operated by exceptional AutoZoners.

  • Now I'll turn the call over to Bill Giles.

  • William T. Giles - CFO and Executive VP of Finance & Information Technology

  • Thanks, Bill, and good morning, everyone.

  • To start this morning, let me take a few moments to talk more specifically about our retail, commercial and international results for the quarter.

  • For the quarter, total auto parts sales, which includes our domestic retail and commercial businesses and our Mexico and Brazil stores, increased 3%.

  • For the trailing 52 weeks ended, total sales per AutoZone store were $1,778,000.

  • And for the quarter, total commercial sales increased 8.8%.

  • In the fourth quarter, commercial represented 21% of our total sales versus 20% last year and grew $59 million over last year's fourth quarter.

  • This past quarter, we opened 58 net new programs versus 90 new -- 99 new programs opened in our fourth quarter of last fiscal year.

  • We now have a commercial program in 4,741 stores or 84% of our domestic stores, supported by 198 hub stores.

  • In 2019, we expect to open, again, approximately 150 new programs.

  • As Bill mentioned a moment ago, we remain focused on growing this business and are committed to having a great sales team supplemented with stronger engagement of our store managers and district managers.

  • We remain confident with the initiatives that we have and will have in place, and we expect we will continue to gain market share in this sector.

  • Our Mexico stores continue to perform well on a local currency basis.

  • We opened 28 new stores during the fourth quarter.

  • At the end of the quarter, we had 564 stores in Mexico.

  • We, again, expect to open approximately 40 new stores in fiscal 2019.

  • While the exchange rate worked against us this past quarter, the Mexico leadership team continues to do a fine job managing the base peso-denominated business.

  • Regarding Brazil, we opened 4 new stores and currently are operating 20 stores.

  • Our plans are to grow an additional 19 stores over the next year.

  • While Brazil has run at an operating loss, we are encouraged by the sales per store being generated.

  • We expect Brazil will grow its store base and may even surpass Mexico's store count over time as we prove the operating model produces sufficient returns.

  • For the quarter, gross profit as a percentage of sales was 53.6% versus 52.8% the same period last year.

  • The increase in gross margin was attributable to the impact of the sale of 2 business units completed during the year and higher merchandise margins, partially offset by higher supply chain costs.

  • Our supply chain expense deleverage was mainly due to diesel fuel costs being higher.

  • However, there was some deleverage from the opening of the new DC in Ocala, Florida.

  • We continue to feel we can manage these expense categories throughout fiscal 2019.

  • Our primary focus remains growing absolute gross profit dollars in our total auto parts segment.

  • Operating expenses as a percentage of sales were 37% versus 32.6% the same period last year.

  • The increase was primarily due to the pension settlement charge of $130.3 million and domestic store payroll.

  • While we incurred significant charges related to the termination of the pension plans in the quarter, we are pleased to have terminated our qualified and nonqualified pension plans, eliminated any future expense related to those plans and most importantly, eliminated all risks associated with the plans' asset performance.

  • Our team worked at this very hard and did a terrific job on this endeavor.

  • While our reported EBIT for Q4 was $591 million, our adjusted EBIT, calculated by removing the charges related to the termination of the pension plans, for the quarter was $722 million, up 2% over last year's fourth quarter.

  • Our adjusted EBIT margin was 20.3%.

  • Interest expense for the quarter was $54.3 million compared with $51.4 million in Q4 a year ago.

  • The higher expense is due to higher rates we're seeing on our variable rate debt.

  • Debt outstanding at the end of the quarter was $5 billion or approximately $75 million less than last year's balance.

  • Our adjusted debt level metric finished the quarter at 2.5x to EBITDAR.

  • While, in any given quarter, we may increase or decrease our leverage metric based on management's opinion regarding debt and equity market conditions, we remain committed to both our investment-grade rating and our capital allocation strategy, and share repurchases are an important element of that strategy.

  • For the quarter, our tax rate was 25.4% versus last year's Q4 of 33.9%.

  • As Bill said earlier on the call, we expect a tax rate of approximately 24.5% in 2019.

  • Net income for the quarter decreased 7.7% over the same period last year to $400 million, while diluted earnings per share decreased 1.6% to $15.02 per share from $15.27 per share in the year-ago quarter.

  • As previously disclosed, during the quarter, we terminated our qualified and nonqualified pension plans that have been frozen since fiscal 2003.

  • Adjusted for the charges related to the termination of the pension plans of $93.7 million net of tax, adjusted net income for the quarter increased 13.8% over the same period last year to $494 million, while adjusted diluted earnings per share increased 21.4% to $18.54 per share from $15.27 per share in the year-ago quarter.

  • Our diluted share count of 26.6 million was down 6.2% from last year's fourth quarter.

  • Relating to the cash flow statement, for the fourth quarter, we generated $824 million of operating cash flow.

  • Net fixed assets were up 4.6% versus last year.

  • Capital expenditures for the quarter totaled $195 million and reflected the additional expenditures required to open 114 new locations this quarter, capital expenditures on existing stores, hub and mega hub store remodels or openings, work on the development of new stores for upcoming quarters and information technology investments.

  • With the new stores opened, we finished this quarter with 5,618 stores in 50 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, 564 stores in Mexico and 20 in Brazil, for a total AutoZone store count of 6,202.

  • Depreciation totaled $108 million for the quarter versus last year's fourth quarter expense of $103.1 million.

  • This is generally in line with recent quarter growth rates.

  • We repurchased $665 million of AutoZone stock in the fourth quarter.

  • At quarter end, we had $232 million remaining under our share buyback authorization, and our leverage metric was 2.5x.

  • Again, I want to stress, we manage to appropriate credit ratings and not any one metric.

  • The metric we report is meant as a guide only as each rating firm has its own criteria.

  • We continue to view our share repurchase program as an attractive capital deployment strategy.

  • Next, I'd like to update you on our inventory levels in total and on a per-store basis.

  • The company's inventory increased 1.6% over the same period last year, driven primarily by new store openings.

  • Inventory per location was $636,000 versus $644,000 last year and $658,000 last quarter.

  • Net inventory, defined as merchandise inventories less accounts payable on a per location basis was a negative $75,000 versus a negative $48,000 last year and a negative $48,000 just last quarter.

  • As a result, accounts payable as a percent of gross inventory finished the quarter at 111.8%.

  • What I would like to call out is that last year's first quarter experienced several natural disasters that impacted our sales and operating profit results.

  • We called out 50 to 60 basis points of comp tailwinds we received from the storms and $9 million of costs in last year's first quarter.

  • Finally, as Bill previously mentioned, our continued disciplined capital management approach resulted in return on invested capital for the trailing 4 quarters of 32.1%.

  • We have and will continue to make investments that we believe will generate returns that significantly exceed our cost of capital.

  • Now I'll turn it back to Bill Rhodes.

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Thank you, Bill.

  • Before I conclude, I want to take this opportunity to reflect on fiscal 2018.

  • The year certainly was an improvement from 2017 but also didn't completely meet our expectations.

  • However, our team continued to deliver some very impressive accomplishments and milestones.

  • In recognition of the dedication, passion, innovation and commitment of our AutoZoners, I want to highlight that, first, our sales grew to a record $11.2 billion this past year, and we grew same-store sales at 1.8%.

  • We opened 150 domestic new stores and now have over 5,600 locations across the United States.

  • We opened 40 stores in Mexico, a tremendous accomplishment by that talented team.

  • We are starting to ramp up our Brazilian operations as we expanded to 20 stores in and around São Paulo.

  • Our supply chain, after some significant changes, is only getting stronger and is poised to leverage those improvements.

  • Between the distribution centers and the hub, mega hub locations, we're beginning to see real sales traction by being able to say yes more than ever before.

  • We expanded our highly successful mega hub strategy, opening 8 new mega hubs this year, ending with 24.

  • And our team has done a wonderful job of introducing new out-of-the-box ideas like our market-leading next-day delivery option up to 10 p.m.

  • Most importantly, our customers are visiting our website at accelerated rates and using that research to inform their in-store business.

  • And lastly, we sold 2 businesses in AutoAnything and IMC to focus our resources on our core business.

  • While we will continue to challenge ourselves, our decisions, processes and strategies, we will always invest to reinforce our guiding principles, leveraging our methodologies of evolution over revolution, and superior execution with consistent strategy is a formula for success.

  • We have an exceptional team that executes extremely well.

  • Our focus remains on being successful over the long run.

  • That success will be attributable to our approach to leveraging our unique and powerful culture and focusing on the needs of our customers.

  • To execute at a high level, we must consistently adhere to living the pledge.

  • We cannot and will not take our eye off of execution.

  • But we must continually challenge ourselves to think differently and move more swiftly once conclusions are reached.

  • Success will be achieved with an attention to detail and exceptional execution.

  • Our customers have choices, and we must exceed their expectations in whatever way they choose to shop with us.

  • We are fortunate to operate in one of the strongest retail segments, and we continue to be excited about our industry's growth prospects for 2019 and beyond.

  • Our charge remains to optimize our performance regardless of market conditions and continue to ensure we are investing in the key initiatives that will drive our long-term performance.

  • In the end, delivering strong EPS growth and ROIC each quarter is how we measure ourselves.

  • This formula has been extremely successful over the last 39 years, and we continue to be excited about our future.

  • Now we'd like to open up the call for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question is from Matt Fassler from Goldman Sachs.

  • Matthew Jeremy Fassler - MD

  • We'll have disruptions at any point in time, puts and takes in any given quarter, but can you frame the magnitude of what you were trying to get done in this past fiscal year, particularly the second half?

  • You spoke about the vendor changeover, et cetera, just to get a sense as to whether the ask you made on yourselves was that much greater than it had been in prior quarters.

  • That would be question number one.

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes, it's a terrific question, Matt.

  • You didn't come through at first, but I think I understand it.

  • If I didn't get it or don't address it, please clarify for me.

  • I think you've got to look at 2 different things.

  • First and foremost, we made a strategic decision on discontinuing the e-commerce promotions.

  • That didn't have anything to do with execution or transition.

  • That was a strategic decision that we made, and that cost us about 40 basis points of comp.

  • We want to make that clear.

  • We turned them back on.

  • We'll see where we go from here.

  • We did not want to be in a competitive disadvantaged position.

  • On the transitions, we just -- in hindsight, I think we would look back on it and say that we took on a disproportionate amount and too much in the second half of the year.

  • We always have vendor transitions going on, and we always have distribution changes going on and hub stores and mega hubs opening.

  • We just had a little too much.

  • And frankly, several of these didn't go as planned.

  • And they were challenging during the implementation.

  • As we get finished with the implementation, we are very excited we'll be in a better competitive position.

  • And in most cases, we already are, but it hurt us a little bit in that 6-month period of time.

  • Matthew Jeremy Fassler - MD

  • And then my second question relates to the next-day delivery effort.

  • Can you talk about how you're going to fulfill these orders?

  • And what is this about what you're doing that would suggest that next-day delivery should be proprietary either to you or to your channel and perhaps tougher for pure-play e-commerce firms to execute, if you think that that's the case?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • I think I'll have to let you answer the latter portion of that.

  • I will tell you that we have a world-class logistics organization that we are working with, that we've been working with on this for some time.

  • And we are really excited to be in the position to have this differentiated offering out there.

  • How long will it be differentiated?

  • I think that's yet to be determined.

  • Certainly, we don't know.

  • But we are taking advantage of it.

  • I'm amazed that our organization, from the time we had our first conversation about doing this, we were up and running in a store in 6 months.

  • That is remarkable and a great sign of the innovation that our team can drive.

  • And now here we are a year later than that, and we have it in 83 markets and 80% of the United States population can order as late as 10 p.m.

  • and get a product on their doorstep tomorrow.

  • I think it just shows, Matt, that innovation doesn't only rest on the West Coast, but there's a lot of people that are doing a lot of different innovations and leveraging technologies to improve customer service.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Michael Lasser from UBS.

  • Michael Lasser - MD and Equity Research Analyst of Consumer Hardlines

  • At the risk of asking an obvious question, you mentioned, Bill, that you're bullish on your sales and the industry environment in the upcoming year.

  • Does that mean it's reasonable to expect that you'll see an acceleration in both your DIY and your DIFM same-store sales results in the upcoming year?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • I think as you know, Michael, we don't give guidance.

  • So we're going to leave that to you, guys, the experts.

  • We're trying to tell you what we think is going on in the industry.

  • I think Bill was very clear that in the first quarter, we have something that we have to lap as pretty significant, and that was the hurricanes last year.

  • Unfortunately, we got a large part of the Carolinas that are going through that issue right now as well, and we certainly are sympathetic towards all the people that are dealing with that.

  • And I congratulate our team out there for doing a remarkable job taking care of our business and our customers, more importantly.

  • But as far as whether or not we're going to go up or down from here, I think there's a lot of moving pieces, and we're not in the projection business.

  • Michael Lasser - MD and Equity Research Analyst of Consumer Hardlines

  • With that being said, what do you anticipate inflation is going to contribute to the industry for the upcoming year, both from an underlying raw material and cost of doing business going up and then the potential for tariffs as well?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes.

  • You tell me what the tariffs are going to be.

  • Are they going to be 10% or 25%?

  • If they're 25% or if they stay for a long period of time, that's going to drive some significant inflation in our industry.

  • And I will tell you, over long periods of time, marginal inflation in our business is good.

  • And by the way, we're seeing inflation at accelerated rates in wages.

  • So we're not scared of marginal inflation.

  • What we don't want to see is shocks that shock the consumer.

  • Michael Lasser - MD and Equity Research Analyst of Consumer Hardlines

  • But are you seeing inflation pick up as it stands today?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Not materially.

  • The categories that were impacted back in July with the tariffs, certainly, those categories have seen inflation on a broader level.

  • We're not seeing it.

  • But you are seeing it in various parts of the economy.

  • So fuel prices are up, wages are up.

  • So it's -- we're later in the economic cycle.

  • And by the way, things that normally happen later in the economic cycle seem to be showing up.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Simeon Gutman from Morgan Stanley.

  • Simeon Ari Gutman - Executive Director

  • First, for Bill Rhodes.

  • I want to talk about the online promotion and the next-day delivery.

  • So you made the strategic decision to drop it, and then in a not-so-long-after period, it looks like it's back with one of the better shipping or next-day delivery programs in the industry.

  • Can you just talk about the -- what caused that abruptness?

  • Was it either the math more tolerable?

  • Or is there something that you're anticipating in the industry?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • No, I think it's -- we've been out there for 5 to 6 months by ourselves.

  • It's not lost on us that our competitive sales position, that we're not growing sales -- growing share at the robust rate that we were for about 8 to 10 months before that decline.

  • And we want to make sure and prove to ourselves -- if it was only the 40 basis points of what was happening with online promotions, I don't think we would have changed it.

  • But we've got to make sure that it's not changing the value perception of our consumer as they're beginning the shopping experience.

  • The vast majority of our customers begin their shopping journey, whether they buy in-store or online, online.

  • And so if that was changing the value perception, we've got to make sure that that's not the case.

  • Simeon Ari Gutman - Executive Director

  • Right.

  • And now your offer, in theory, leapfrogs what's out there in the marketplace.

  • I mean, is that fair?

  • Or you're expecting this at some point from your competitors anyway so you just might as well get there?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • I think we have a very differentiated offering right now, very different.

  • Simeon Ari Gutman - Executive Director

  • Fair enough.

  • Okay.

  • And my second question for Bill Giles.

  • To the extent we can talk about it on a 52-week basis, because you have, I think, the extra week, can we talk about just EBIT dollar growth?

  • Are you planning for that for next year?

  • I think you reiterated some of the comments around expense growing, but I just want to talk about EBIT dollars in totality.

  • William T. Giles - CFO and Executive VP of Finance & Information Technology

  • Yes.

  • I think that, to be honest with you, I'm just going to come back to the SG&A growth, I think that we had articulated that a couple of quarters ago, and it seems as though The Street has digested that in the numbers that they've got out there today.

  • And so no change from that perspective.

  • And I think you guys have to figure out what you believe comp is going to be, et cetera, and go from there.

  • But I would say that, to reiterate some of the things Bill had talked about before, is that we do expect to make some of those investments.

  • Some of those are going to be in wage rates and some investment in technology, and that'll ramp during the year.

  • And a big chunk of that was the wage rates, and that will come in play towards the middle to end of Q1 and then in full force in Q2.

  • So think about it that way as you're ramping your SG&A.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Kate McShane from Citi.

  • Kate McShane - MD, Head of the U.S. Discretionary and U.S. Apparel and Retail Analyst

  • I was curious, I think it was mentioned in the comments about the composition of comp growth.

  • And wondered if you could maybe differentiate how DIY versus DIFM did during the quarter?

  • How much was from new customer acquisition or a bigger basket or both?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • I would say, in the call, number one, we said both retail and commercial were positive every period throughout the quarter -- or every month throughout the quarter.

  • We gave clarity that commercial grew at 8.8%, and we got that growth from new customers as well as existing customers and that that's accelerated from 7.3% last quarter.

  • We're quite pleased.

  • The productivity on a per-program basis was the highest we've seen in some time, the growth in productivity.

  • Kate McShane - MD, Head of the U.S. Discretionary and U.S. Apparel and Retail Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And just to nail down the vendor transition piece, can you let us -- tell us what the timing was with regards to when it started to get a little bit more aggressive with the transition and when that will end?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes.

  • First of all, it's not one single event.

  • There were 6 or 7 of these kinds of events, so they all happened at different times.

  • But they really culminated over the course of the fourth quarter.

  • Had a little bit of impact in the third quarter, most of the impact in the fourth quarter.

  • We still have a little bit going on now as we're finishing some of those transitions, but for the most part, that's behind us.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Mike Baker from Deutsche Bank.

  • Michael Allen Baker - Research Analyst

  • A couple of follow-ups.

  • One, the online promotions that you got -- that you did away with, how -- did that positively impact your gross margins?

  • And so now as you put those back into place, should we expect less gross margin gains ahead?

  • William T. Giles - CFO and Executive VP of Finance & Information Technology

  • Michael, they definitely favorably impacted them slightly.

  • But keep in mind, these are relatively low volume in general, so not enough to really move the needle per se.

  • Michael Allen Baker - Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And then the vendor transitions.

  • So thank you for quantifying the impact of the online change to your comps.

  • How about can you quantify the impact of the vendor transitions?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes, Michael, we really can't because it's happened in different categories, different weeks.

  • It's just very, very difficult.

  • We think it certainly had an impact, a negative impact on us in the quarter.

  • We also think it's pretty much behind us at this point.

  • But calling out a specific is very easy on the online promotions, we can put facts behind that one.

  • This one is more difficult.

  • Michael Allen Baker - Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And that to sort of put these questions together.

  • So presumably, they were somewhere in the 50, 60, maybe 70 basis point impact, when you consider what you quantify for online plus the vendor issue.

  • That seems to then offset the hurricanes.

  • Or is that a fair way to think about it, that you have some positives coming because those disruptions and changes are behind you, offsetting the tougher comparison from last year's hurricanes?

  • William T. Giles - CFO and Executive VP of Finance & Information Technology

  • Yes, I have no idea if they're going to perfectly offset, but you're absolutely right.

  • I mean, we've got some things in the quarter that we believe that we are going to execute better on going forward.

  • We've made the change on the promotional activity online, and we think that will be a benefit.

  • Obviously, we've got some headwinds from Q1 last year, and then TBD on what the impacts of the current year hurricanes will be.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Christopher Horvers from JPMorgan.

  • Christopher Michael Horvers - Senior Analyst

  • Firstly, a question on the gross margin outlook going forward.

  • You've had some very nice sourcing benefits over the past 3 quarters.

  • It looks like the supply chain, the fuel aspect turned sort of negative in this quarter, and that will offset that.

  • But at the same time, the benefit from the divested businesses accelerated.

  • So could you piece those apart?

  • How do you think about that 70 basis points going forward on the divested businesses?

  • And then how do you balance out the -- is the sourcing benefit still going to outweigh the fuel supply chain headwind?

  • Or how should we think about that?

  • William T. Giles - CFO and Executive VP of Finance & Information Technology

  • That's a good question.

  • I think that, basically, you're right, we had about a 70 basis point impact this quarter.

  • I think it was about 40 basis points last quarter, which was just kind of a transition -- third quarter is what I mean, we had 40 basis points.

  • So when you go forward on Q1 and Q2, you'll probably have something similar to what you had in Q4, maybe a little bit less.

  • But you're right, we did have some headwinds on supply chain, specifically diesel fuels.

  • So I suspect that, that will continue to be a headwind for the next quarter or so.

  • We continue to make benefits from sourcing, the merchandising organization continues to do a good job of lowering acquisition costs, et cetera.

  • But I think that will probably be a little muted versus what it had been, particularly given some of the tariffs that might be coming on [place], et cetera.

  • So that's kind of how I think about it going forward.

  • I think you have 70 basis points or so of benefit by not having the 2 business units and then some headwind from the supply chain.

  • Christopher Michael Horvers - Senior Analyst

  • Got it.

  • And then in terms of the next-day delivery, I think, right now, it's free if you spend over a certain amount.

  • How do you think about the cost of that to the consumer going forward?

  • What you're going to charge versus if you had a 2 -- standard sort of 2-day delivery free over $35 or something like that?

  • And then -- and also, in terms of the -- is this being sourced from stores and hubs or distribution centers?

  • Just curious how it's being pushed out to the consumer.

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • So on the first part, on whether or not we can charge for it, we don't know the answer to that yet.

  • We have charged for it in the past, a marginal amount, $1.99, free next-day delivery.

  • Right now, it's on there at 0. Right now, we have promotions out there on certain amounts.

  • We are going to work on modifying those over time to find the right sweet spot for our customer and for our business.

  • As for where it's being sourced, it's being sourced from the local market.

  • That's the only way that you can get it there for the next day.

  • So it's coming out of those hubs and mega hubs, which is really a great opportunity for us to activate that inventory even better.

  • And if you think about it, 3 or 4 years ago, we didn't have any mega hubs.

  • Today, we've got 24.

  • We're talking about adding 10 more next year.

  • And that really gives us -- it puts us in a very different competitive position going forward.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Seth Sigman from Crédit Suisse.

  • Seth Ian Sigman - United States Hardline Retail Equity Research Analyst

  • My question was around market share.

  • So you guys had talked about market share gains subsiding in the second half of the year.

  • I'm just curious, was that more about specific challenges that AutoZone was grappling with?

  • Or did you actually see something different from some of your competitors?

  • And then the other question would be just around the improvement in August.

  • As you started to address some of the issues you had earlier in the quarter, did you actually start to see market share gains reverse, start to accelerate again?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes.

  • For the latter part of that question, we have not seen August market share data completely yet.

  • Although I wouldn't expect to see it in August.

  • I think we were really improving.

  • One of the questions we got earlier was, what -- did your market share change from May to June and July?

  • The answer is no.

  • And I want to make this real clear, we continued to gain market share all throughout this.

  • But we had more robust market share gains for 8 to 10 months before, let's say, February time period.

  • What happened in February?

  • We changed our cadence on online promotions.

  • That clearly impacted us 40 basis points.

  • Did this customer value perception change and did that slow us down, too?

  • Maybe, maybe not.

  • That's what we're testing to learn today.

  • And then that's also when we started hitting these vendor transitions.

  • Our competitors are always great competitors.

  • Whether or not they improved themselves or not, I don't know the answer to that.

  • But I know that we weren't at our finest during that period of time.

  • And I know we're in the process of correcting that.

  • Seth Ian Sigman - United States Hardline Retail Equity Research Analyst

  • And Bill, were you talking mostly about the DIY business?

  • Because the commercial business has continued to perform pretty well.

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • No.

  • I think the underlying trends in the commercial business are better.

  • A vast majority of the vendor transitions would have impacted commercial just as much as they impacted DIY, if not more, because it's more of a hard parts business, and several of these were major hard part changeovers, which are very complex and very challenging.

  • And they just didn't go flawlessly.

  • Seth Ian Sigman - United States Hardline Retail Equity Research Analyst

  • Okay.

  • And my follow-up question is on the commercial business specifically.

  • I think there was a period last year where you were using a third party to help assess the strategy, and there was a little bit of uncertainty at that point.

  • Obviously, since then, the business has continued to improve.

  • Can you discuss the changes that have been made that you think are helping drive that improvement?

  • And then as you think about 2019, I think you've talked about getting to double-digit growth for the commercial business at some point.

  • What will it take to get there?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • Yes.

  • I wish I knew the answer to the last question.

  • We'd do it tomorrow if we knew what it'd take.

  • I think, yes, we did a commercial study, a strategic review of our commercial business.

  • And we concluded it about a year ago.

  • It came with some new concepts, and we're trying some of those new concepts.

  • We don't know if they're going to work yet or not.

  • They're very complicated.

  • And we're doing great things, and I'm proud of our team.

  • But that's not what's driving our business today.

  • What's driving our business today is our inventory assortment changes that we've made over the last 3 years with hubs and mega hubs and improved assortments in the satellite stores.

  • We've also got our store management teams, both the district managers and the store managers, much more involved in the commercial business so that they're not thinking about DIY first and commercial second, that they're coming to work every day thinking I'm the store manager in both the retail and the commercial business.

  • And I think those things are just the blocking and tackling are what's making the improvements in our commercial business today.

  • I certainly hope to return to 10%.

  • I'm very encouraged by going from 7.3% to 8.8%.

  • I'm also encouraged by some of the strategic changes that we're looking at, but it's way too early for us to talk about any of those.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Seth Basham from Wedbush Securities.

  • Seth Mckain Basham - SVP of Equity Research

  • My first question is around inflation.

  • Sorry if I missed this, but did you try to quantify what the impact in your comps were this quarter from inflation?

  • William T. Giles - CFO and Executive VP of Finance & Information Technology

  • We didn't necessarily quantify the impact from inflation.

  • We think inflation, there's a little bit of inflation in certain categories, but it hasn't been significant.

  • Obviously, marginal inflation, as Bill talked about, is helpful for the industry and for us specifically.

  • But we have -- we've seen moderate inflation.

  • Seth Mckain Basham - SVP of Equity Research

  • Moderate inflation, okay.

  • And if we assume that the tariffs, as proposed, go through later this month, would you expect that the inflation environment will still be moderate and manageable?

  • Or do you see -- anticipate some transitional headwinds?

  • William T. Giles - CFO and Executive VP of Finance & Information Technology

  • Well, we think it's manageable.

  • I mean, one of the things with this industry is that we're a very slow turn inventory business.

  • So whatever tariffs do arrive, we'll have an opportunity to see what the impact is going to be on each of the categories, et cetera.

  • And historically, the industry has been very successful in being able to pass those costs onto consumers.

  • So that's how we see it playing out.

  • Seth Mckain Basham - SVP of Equity Research

  • And my follow-up question is just around the overnight delivery for that you have now.

  • Initially, when you put this out, you were leveraging FedEx to deliver these packages overnight.

  • Are you no longer using FedEx for this purpose?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • I think you can see that we're using a world-class logistic operator in FedEx, if you look at our website.

  • And they've done a wonderful job of helping us innovate on this front.

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from Matt McClintock from Barclays.

  • Matthew J. McClintock - Senior Analyst

  • Just real quick, a follow-up on the tariffs or more broader inflation.

  • Can you help me understand the elasticity of price increases for the DIY side versus the commercial side, how to think through that?

  • I would assume DIY would be more impacted, but -- from a volume perspective, but I'd just love to get your perspective.

  • William T. Giles - CFO and Executive VP of Finance & Information Technology

  • Historically, we haven't seen that necessarily.

  • The elasticity is not as great as you might imagine, many of the parts.

  • Also consider that a big chunk of our business is fairly related parts.

  • So those are required parts to operate your vehicle.

  • But I would say, historically, when you look back over time, the elasticity, even on maintenance side and even, to some extent, discretionary, is not as great as you would think.

  • Matthew J. McClintock - Senior Analyst

  • That's helpful.

  • And then just another follow-up on the overnight delivery.

  • Is this the missing piece to being able to have a real inflection and broader consumer acceptance of purchasing these products online?

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • I don't think there's any silver bullets that are out there.

  • I think this is a normal part of the evolution of leveraging new technologies and new innovations.

  • As we said on the call, this is a very small part of our business.

  • And we anticipate it remaining relatively small.

  • It's growing fast right now, and we're going to accelerate it as best we can.

  • But at the end of the day, we believe the omnichannel experience is the most important.

  • We believe coming into our stores and engaging with our incredibly knowledgeable AutoZoners and having them help our DIY customers figure out how to maintain or repair their vehicles is the most important part.

  • This is just another avenue for us to meet those customers where, when and how it's most convenient for them.

  • So I wouldn't overdo it, but it is a great new innovation.

  • Operator

  • I will now hand the call back to Mr. Bill Rhodes.

  • William C. Rhodes - Chairman, President & CEO

  • All right.

  • Thank you.

  • Before we conclude the call, I'd like to take a moment to reiterate that our business model continues to be solid.

  • We're excited about our growth prospects for the year.

  • We will not take anything for granted as we understand our customers have alternatives.

  • We have a solid plan to succeed this fiscal year, but I want to stress that this is a marathon and not a sprint.

  • As we continue to focus on the basics and focus on optimizing long-term shareholder value, we are confident AutoZone will continue to be very, very successful.

  • We thank you for participating in today's call.

  • Have a great day.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • And that concludes today's conference.

  • Thank you all for participating.

  • You may now disconnect.