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This is the conference call to discuss AutoZone's first quarter financial results.
Mr.
Bill Rhodes, the Company's Chairman, President and CEO, will be making a short presentation on the highlights of the quarter.
The conference call will end promptly at 10 a.m.
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Actual results may materially differ from anticipated results.
Please refer to the Risk Factors section of AutoZone's form 10 for Fiscal Year Ended August 25, 2007, for more information related to those risks.
In addition to the financial statements in accordance with generally accounted accounting principles, AutoZone has provided metrics in its presentation that are not calculated in accordance with GAAP.
For a reconciliation of these metrics, please see AutoZone's Press Release in the Investor Relations section at www.AutoZoneInc.Com.
Operator
Mr.
Rhodes, you may now begin.
- CEO
Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for AutoZone's fiscal 2008 First Quarter Conference Call.
With me today is Bill Giles, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Store Development and IT, and Brian Campbell, Vice President, Treasurer, Investor Relations and Tax.
Regarding the First Quarter, I hope you've had an opportunity to read our Press Release and learn about the quarter's results.
If not, the Press Release, along with slides complimenting our comments today, is available on our website www.AutoZoneInc.Com.
Please click on quarterly earnings Conference Calls to see them.
To begin, I'd like to thank our entire organization, all 55,000 AutoZoners, for their significant efforts that delivered another record earnings quarter.
It is their committment to providing outstanding Customer Service that leads to our success.
While we are proud to say we're the nations leading retailer and a leading distributer of auto parts, that moniker does not come without the hard work and dedication of our AutoZoners.
As we began Fiscal 2008 in September, it was important for us to build on the initiatives that were implemented in 2007.
Specifically, to gain traction on the additional parts coverage additions, our new Z-net Electronics Parts catalog, our increased focus on continuous Customer Service and cultural training, and our increased attention to making sure our stores look great.
We expected sales momentum for these initiatives.
We expected traction in both our DIY business and Commercial business.
In fact, we had just finished a quarter of positive sales growth in Commercial, the first one in a couple of years, and while we were encouraged by the early traction we had made, we knew we had much work to do.
I'm happy to say this morning we have made strides in building upon last years momentum.
We believe we improved the shopping experience for our customers.
We feel we have continued to improve our parts offering and we're beginning to gain traction in our Commercial business.
We continue to believe, if we remain focused on living our pledge, to provide wow Customer Service every day, we'll continue to succeed well into the future.
I believe we have great brands, a great Company, and most importantly, great AutoZoners executing our plans, who provide our customers with the trustworthy advice they need to maintain and enhance their vehicles.
We have had numerous inquiries regarding the external challenges facing the U.S.
consumer and the potential negative ramifications that has on our business.
We have expressed in the past that we have seen a negative impact on our sales when there has been a significant increase in gas prices.
That impact has historically been reflected in a low single digit percentage impact on our same-store sales.
Additionally, there are certainly other macro challenges facing the U.S.
consumer today, but we want to reiterate, that historically, we have not been able to develop a statistical correlation between microchallenges and our sales performance.
The two factors that we believe impact our business over the long term the most are the number of vehicles on the road, more specifically the number of seven-year-old and older vehicles and miles driven.
We certainly remain mindful of other developments, but we believe the most important determinant of our future success is our strategies and more specifically, our execution of those strategies.
For the quarter, our Retail sales increased 3.6%.
The additional parts coverage we added in 2007 was a key contributor to this increase.
We continue to evaluate the decisions we made last year, our first year utilizing this new approach, and continue to refine our decision-making processes to improve our product assortment.
Our Commercial business continued to build on last quarter's modest sales gain, and we are encouraged by our 4.3% sales increase in this business during the First Quarter.
As we transitioned away from our Supply Chain relationship with Midas, which occurred at the end of June, we were pleased to overcome that headwind and more than offset that loss of business.
Our Commercial customers have responded positively to the many initiatives we implemented last year and specifically to the substantial improvement in our parts coverage.
We believe we can continue to gain sales traction in this business going forward.
This morning we would like to communicate three key things about AutoZone and our business.
First, we are encouraged by the progress we are making on our initiatives.
We believe that the customer experience, in both our Retail and Commercial businesses, is improving and we are well positioned to continue to profitably grow these businesses well into the future.
Second, as I mentioned before, there are certainly micro challenges that appear to be impacting the U.S.
consumer.
We are aware of those factors and continually monitor them.
Will these factors negatively impact our business?
Only time will tell.
However, we believe the most important factor that will continue to determine our success is how we manage this business.
Third, we want to reiterate our committment to managing the business with an eye on continuous improvement.
We are committed to investing in our most important assets: Our AutoZoners and our Stores.
We are committed to ongoing training for our AutoZoners, as well as investments in merchandise additions and store presentation, to improve our customer's experience and grow our sales.
We measure our efforts through customer surveys and focus group research.
Our results continue to confirm and reaffirm that we are on the right path.
For the agenda this morning, I will review our overall financial results and then go into detail regarding our DIY sales initiatives, Commercial initiatives and Mexico.
Bill Giles will then provide more detail on our earnings performance, as well as an overview of both our Balance Sheet and cash flow statements for this past quarter.
Finally, I'll provide a few closing comments.
Regarding the First Quarter for the 12 weeks ended November 17, we reported sales of 1.456 billion, an increase of 4.5% from last years First Quarter.
Same-store sales or sales for stores opened more than one year, were up 1.3% for the quarter.
We were pleased with the modest improvement in our sales trends and specifically pleased with the improvement in our Commercial performance.
In the First Quarter, gross profit as a percentage of sales, was up 71 basis points versus last year's quarter, while operating expenses, as a percentage of sales, increased by 41 basis points.
This resulted in an operating margin of 16.3%, up 30 basis points from last year's quarter.
Operating profit increased 6.4% versus the prior year.
Net income for the quarter was 133 million, and diluted earnings per share increased 17.4% to $2.02 from $1.73 in the year ago quarter.
Our disciplined Capital Management approach resulted in return on invested capital for the trailing four quarters of 23.0%.
This was a solid increase versus last year's First Quarter.
Return on invested capital is a key measure of our success.
We have and will continue to make investments that we believe will generate returns that significantly exceed our cost of capital.
We will not deviate from our efforts to optimize shareholder value over the long term.
We continue to be fiscally prudent with our investments, while optimizing our earnings per share.
Now, I'd like to talk about our DIY sales results.
Total domestic Retail sales were up 3.6% for the quarter.
During the First Quarter, we continued to focus on driving sales and profits for the long term.
During the quarter, as is customary, we experienced regional discrepancies in our sales performance, both positive and negative; however nothing was material enough to highlight.
Last year, we discussed our organizations focus on living the pledge.
In Fiscal 2008, the theme of our operating plan is Customers First, the most important element of the first line of our pledge.
We held our national sales meeting back in September.
Then for the balance of the quarter we held regional meetings with our store Management teams and meetings in all of our stores to convey our plans for 2008.
One clear theme of our meeting was, " We have what we need, what we need to succeed".
In support of this message, we shared the performance of our President's Club winners, the top 5% of our store Managers.
This year we invited all of our President Club winners to the national sales meeting and shared how these leaders excelled in virtually every critical measurement we have.
From sales to turnover to customer satisfaction scores and more, these leaders delivered superior performance.
This evaluation again revealed to us the importance of continually enhancing our AutoZoners leadership capabilities and as a result, we are enhancing our leadership training.
Secondly, we continue to focus relentlessly on improving our parts assortment.
As mentioned before, we are in the second year of using our new parts assortment tool.
We have learned a great deal from last year's implementation, both our successes and our mistakes.
During the First Quarter we implemented product assortment changes in 11 of our categories.
We are encouraged by our results to date and excited by the differences our future enhancements can make.
We remain committed to refreshing our product assortment on a routine basis, as this is critical to keeping our product assortment relevant to the ever changing vehicle demographics in each store's trade area.
Also, during the quarter, we offered some compelling promotions, that we believe contributed to our sales growth.
We will continue to focus our Marketing efforts on communicating trustworthy advice, great value, and quality products to our customers.
During the quarter, we continued to improve the capabilities of our new parts catalog, Z-net, and continued to highlight this terrific Customer Service enhancement in our Marketing campaign.
We believe Z-net is gaining traction with our customers, as we are able to provide better, more comprehensive, information to our customers and assist them with their needs more quickly.
Additionally, we continued with our efforts to insure our stores look great, through improvements in merchandise placement and routine maintenance.
We believe the appearance of our stores, both internally and externally, are continuing to show significant improvement.
For the First Quarter, we experienced a sales shift towards application or hard parts.
We believe weather was a major contributor to this shift.
Specifically, certain product categories that respond to weather or colder weather, like antifreeze and windshield wipers, were below prior year levels, while other hard part related categories benefited from the warmer, drier weather.
We expect these categories will revert to more normalized trends as the seasons change.
Regarding macrotrends, during the First Quarter, gas prices started out high at $2.75 a gallon, and went up from there, finishing the quarter at $3.11 a gallon.
Unfortunately, we cannot control the prices of gas at the pump.
However, with more vehicles on the road than ever before, our ability to grow sales remains strong over the long run and we believe consumers will ultimately adjust their spending habits for the higher prices.
We will continue to develop Marketing programs that support our customers needs during these high priced times.
For the quarter, gas prices had a modest negative impact on our sales performance.
Regarding miles driven, we saw a slight increase in miles driven in July and August, and then a decrease in September.
Let me reiterate, the two statistics we've alway felt have the closest correlation to our market growth: miles driven and the number of seven-year-old and older vehicles on the road.
While miles driven had been challenged recently, there are more registered vehicles on the road today than in our country's history.
For the quarter, we estimate that weather had a modest positive impact on our sales; however, as our footprint is national, any regional differences in weather patterns are muted and weather differences will certainly normalize over the mid to long term.
Regarding pricing across the industry, we have not seen any material change in the competitive landscape.
Overall consumer price inflation in Q1 remained in the low single digit range.
For the trailing four quarters, sales per square foot were $ 238.00.
This statistic continues to set the pace for the rest of the industry.
Now, let's turn to Commercial.
For the quarter, total Commercial sales posted an increase of 4.3% versus last year's quarter.
We now have the Commercial program in 2,188 stores, supported by 133 hub stores.
We are encouraged by the progress we are making on our Commercial initiatives and by the initial response we are seeing from our customer's purchasing habits; however, there is still much work to be done.
Over a year ago, we talked about our new test stores.
Those stores have continued to experience stronger sales performance than our other Commercial programs.
We have continued to implement these enhancements in more stores and today, we have over 900 stores with additional tools at their disposal.
However, we continue to be methodical in our approach, insuring our activities are improving our customers experience and ultimately lead to sustained improvement in our business performance.
What we've been doing with this business is relatively straightforward, as it has taken time to both maintain and gain traction, it has really been about focusing on profitable growth.
To that point, we focused on the key drivers.
First, we identified the customers that we could most effectively and profitably serve.
Those within a reasonable distance of our stores.
Second, we focused our efforts on the categories that were most important to our customers and their business success, which is of course hard parts.
This included the substantial additions we made to improve our late model inventory coverage.
We are still in the early stages of this initiative but it is clearly made a difference for us.
To succeed in this business, we must leverage our strengths to deliver a proposition our customers value, and that will continue to be our focus.
Third, we are committed to allocating resources to properly support this business.
For example, we have provided compelling professional Marketing materials to our salesforce.
Previously, our efforts on customer communication were primarily locally driven.
There were minimal comprehensive, cohesive efforts to develop and deliver a compelling offering and related messaging to our customers.
We began implementing this new approach about six months ago and we have received positive feedback from our customers and our AutoZoners.
Additionally, our business has improved in the product categories that have received this additional focus.
As we have significantly improved the basic elements of our offering, we have added focus on developing our salesforce.
Our heritage as a Company has been as a retailer, where our Marketing efforts have been primarily focused on media.
However, the Commercial business requires a different approach.
We have to develop a direct sales approach and salesforce.
Over the last several months, we have worked diligently to develop and implement direct salesforce training, materials, and processes.
We are pleased with the progress to date, but have significant additional progress left before we reach our goal of developing a world class Commercial salesforce.
Finally, we remain committed to building this business for the long run.
We are not interested in driving short-term sales results at the expense of profits.
We believe all the items we've been discussing are building momentum.
Each of these pieces must work in a cohesive manner for us to not only attract new customers but improve our penetration with our existing customers.
Now, let's turn to Mexico.
Our Mexico stores continued to perform well.
We opened one new store during the First Quarter.
We currently have 124 stores in Mexico.
Our ongoing committment remains to prudently and profitably grow the Mexico business.
Now, I'll turn it over to Bill Giles to discuss the remainder of the Income Statement, cash flows, and Balance Sheet.
Bill?
- CFO
Thank you, Bill.
I'm going to start off with the gross margin.
Gross margin for the quarter was 49.9 percent of sales, up 71 basis points compared to last year's First Quarter.
In the First Quarter, margins continued to benefit from our ongoing category Management initiatives, direct import efforts, and a slight sales shift mix toward higher margin application parts, and away from cold weather related sales of lower margin product.
Over the last several quarters, these efforts have been partially offset by an increase in product cost, specifically related to oil based products and other commodities.
We continue to focus on insuring we offer the right products at the right prices to our customers.
This includes supply chain initiatives, tailoring merchandise mix, and the continued optimization of our good, better, best product lines, all allowing us to price our products appropriately, while giving our customers great value.
Our Duralast and Duralast Gold product lines continued to show sales increases for the First Quarter.
Our customers continue to recognize the benefits from buying our better and best merchandise lines.
Going forward, we believe there continues to be opportunity for gross margin expansion, albeit at reduced rates.
Our direct import initiative is in its early stages but we are pleased with the progress our merchandising organization has made to improve margins, while pressures on procurement costs continue to exist.
SG&A for the quarter was 33.6% of sales, up 41 basis points from last year.
Our deleverage came primarily from continued higher occupancy costs, specifically rent and depreciation were approximately 30 basis points higher than last year's First Quarter.
We also experienced slight deleverage due to continued investment in our existing store base, and in improving our Customer Service offering.
At the same time we continue to invest in additional Marketing efforts and training programs for all AutoZoners in order to improve Customer Service.
As I have mentioned before, the AutoZone culture of thrift and focus on cost Management is an integral part of our ongoing business model.
We believe our efforts on improving Customer Service, implemented during the quarter, will pay dividends into the future from a sales perspective.
While our expenditures this past quarter were slightly higher than past quarters, we feel very comfortable those dollars were invested in order to harvest future sales growth.
Over the long run, we continue to believe we can leverage operating expenses on a 1.5 to 2% same-store sales growth rate.
EBIT for the quarter was $237 million, up 6.4% over last year.
Interest expense for the quarter was $28.1 million, compared with $27.1 million a year ago.
Debt outstanding at the end of the quarter was $2,161,000,000, or approximately $300 million more than last year.
The increase in interest expense reflects primarily the higher level of debt.
We expect interest expense to remain higher than the previous year, due to higher debt levels.
Our adjusted debt levels at 2.2 times, were higher than our normal guidance of 2.1 times our trailing 12 month EBITDAR.
Let me take a moment here and discuss our company's decision to adjust our metric this past quarter.
This was purposeful, however not permanent.
We expect to return to 2.1 times adjusted debt to EBITDAR by the end of our Fiscal Year in August 2008.
This effort was driven by opportunistic timing on cost of borrowings, as well as, in our opinion, an attractive stock price.
Again, our expectation is to return to our 2.1 times metric by the end of our Fiscal Year.
We purposefully manage our capital structure relative to our cash flow in order to maintain our credit ratings at investment grade, while optimizing our cost of capital.
Turning to taxes for the quarter, our tax rate was 36.7%, below last year's rate of 36.8%.
We expect to run approximately a 37% tax rate for Fiscal 2008.
Net income for the quarter of $133 million was up 7% over the prior year.
Our diluted share count of 65.4 million was down approximately 9% from last year.
The combination of these factors drove earnings per share for the quarter to $2.02, up 17.4% over the prior year.
I would like to take a moment to remind everyone that our 2008 Fiscal Year has an extra week in it.
Every six years or so, our Fiscal Year has this 53rd week in the Fourth Quarter, so at the end of this Fiscal Year, we'll be talking to you about EPS numbers that include an extra week, so we encourage everyone to model with this extra week taken into account.
At the time of reporting, we will break out the impact this extra week had on our business.
Relating to the cash flow statement, in the First Quarter we generated $171 million of operating cash flow, and we repurchased $350 million of AutoZone stock, as part of our ongoing stock repurchase program.
As stated previously, we remain committed to our targeted adjusted debt to EBITDAR guidepost of 2.1 times, and we expect to return to that metric by the end of the Fiscal Year.
For the First Quarter of this year, we reported an industry leading return on invested capital of 23%.
We're proud to report that this metric continues to improve over last year's already industry leading rate.
Finally I'd like to take a moment and update you on our inventory levels in total and on a per store basis.
We reported an inventory balance of $2 billion, up approximately 9% versus the Q1 ending balance last year.
This year's inventory balance includes approximately $60 million in additional inventory carried under our pay-on scan initiative last year.
We have slowly reduced this balance in recent years.
On a per store basis we reported $507,000 per store, versus $503,000 in last year's First Quarter, an increase of less than 1%.
Also keep in mind that we have added additional parts coverage throughout our category line reviews, and if it's not been for our diligent work on rationalizing certain unproductive inventory, we could not have freed up the space we needed four our additions.
This effort on parts additions will continue for the foreseeable future, and will allow us to say " Yes" to our customers even more.
Accounts Payable as a percent of gross inventory finished the quarter at 90%, compared to 88% last year.
Total working capital was less than $1 million versus last year's balance of $110 million.
We will continue to focus on minimizing working capital as this past quarter reflects.
We are committed to continuing our ongoing focus on increasing cash flow.
Net fixed assets were up 4.4% versus last year.
Capital Expenditures for the quarter totaled $45 million and reflect the additional expenditures required to open 44 new stores this quarter.
Maintenance on existing stores and work on development of our new stores for upcoming quarters.
Specifically related to new store openings, our new stores are on track to achieve at least a 15% IRR and we continue to see ample opportunity to open stores in the U.S.
at a mid single digit growth rate for the foreseeable future.
We opened 40 new stores in the quarter for a total of 3,972 stores in 48 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico.
Our goal remains to open stores more evenly throughout our Fiscal Year.
We also relocated three stores this past quarter and we continue to see opportunities to expand this initiative in the future.
Specifically we like to address the question of self- cannibalization by opening a new AutoZone store near an existing store.
We frequently are asked if we caused the most challenge to our same-store sales growth.
Simply stated we have not.
We calculate our self-cannibalization rate during the evaluation stage of our approval process for all new stores.
While certain stores do cannibalize existing stores, the impact of the cannibalization is typically small, and this cannibalization impact is excluded from the new stores sales projection to insure our new store pro forma meets our internal rate, our internal return hurdle rate.
Depreciation totaled $40 million for the quarter, higher than last year due primarily to new stores and the accounting for new capital leases initiated at the beginning of Q1 last year.
AutoZone continues to be one of the few players in our industry to have investment grade debt ratings.
Our senior unsecured debt rating from Standard & Poor's is BBB+ and we have a Commercial paper rating of A2.
Moody's investor service has assigned us a senior unsecured debt credit rating of Baa2 and a Commercial paper rating of P-2.
We continue to be comfortable with our long term debt ratings and leverage ratios.
Now, I'll turn it back to Bill.
- CEO
Thank you, Bill.
While we are certainly pleased to report record earnings and earnings per share for the quarter, we know we still have substantial opportunities for improvement.
We understand our success is driven by our customers daily experience with us and we must continue to enhance this experience.
We continue to see our customers being more cautious with their buying habits; however, we believe if we focus on the basics of our business, we will continue to be successful.
We believe that we can drive results in this business, even with the macro challenges our customers are facing.
Our story remains one of steady, profitable sales improvements.
We are about staying focused while making methodical improvements in our model, so we remain well positioned for the future.
We continue to feel confident in our long range plans.
We believe we have significant opportunity for growth in all three key business priorities: Retail, Commercial, and Mexico.
2008 will be about refining our hard parts assortment to increase our ability to say " Yes".
In fact, we have a tremendous opportunity to increase our " Yes" percentage to both our Retail and Commercial customers.
This year will also be about testing enhancements to our hub store network to make late model parts coverage more accessible to our stores and customers.
We believe this optimization can help us improve the productivity of our inventory, while making more merchandise available where it counts, at the store.
Lastly, 2008 will be about growing our Commercial business.
Customer Service will always be our cornerstone to improving our customer relationships, and our entire Company is committed to providing that wow Customer Service our patrons have grown to expect.
We will focus on improving the trustworthy advice our AutoZoners deliver, through enhanced training for our AutoZoners and providing them the tools they need to succeed.
As we continue to demonstrate industry leading financial metrics, we remain diligent stewards of our investor's capital.
We continue to remain focused on optimizing long term shareholder value.
We will maintain our cost disciplines while investing incrementally in initiatives that exceed our stated 15% after-tax IRR hurdle rate.
I thank you today for letting us share with you our company's results, and touch on our ongoing initiatives.
We look forward to keeping you abreast of our results well into the future.
Now we would like to open up the call for questions.
Operator
Thank you.
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Our first question comes from Dan Wewer, Raymond James.
Your line is open.
- Analyst
Thanks.
Bill, the growth in your Commercial business does not appear to be impacting your gross margin rate.
Could you remind us of the margin differential between do-it-yourself and do-it-for-me segments?
- CEO
Well what we have said over time is that there's certainly margin, that that business operates at a lower operating margin than the Retail business and it does have lower gross margins but not that drastically lower.
- Analyst
Second question, as I recall you added about $70 million of inventory for the expanded coverage.
Have you had a chance to look at the incremental turns and gross margin rate on that added inventory?
- CFO
We have.
In fact we feel good about the productivity of that $70 million worth of additions.
We think that is contributing in part, in addition to excellent Customer Service, to the improvement in overall sales growth, so we continue to monitor it and as you know, we have a very disciplined approach about how we're going through our category line reviews as Bill mentioned during the call, and we're going to continue that and we expect to continue to expand our parts coverage.
At the same time we're going to continue to be very diligent about rationalizing out our unproductive inventory to keep our inventory overall in check, but so far we're pleased with the category line reviews we've done and the additional inventory we've added into the stores into the chain, and it's improving both our Commercial business and we think it's also improving some of our DIY business as well.
- CEO
And Dan if you don't mind me adding on to that, this is the first year we've had this new tool and as I said in the script, we've made a lot of good decisions, but we've made some bad ones as well, and now that we're going through the second year of that we're able to refine those decisions and expect to continue to improve those decision-making processes as we go forward.
- Analyst
And just the last question I have, you had highlighted the weather benefits, the margin rate.
As that begins to normalize, what would be the impact on margin, or in other words how much would you guesstimate was the benefit in 1Q?
- CFO
Yes, we would quantify specifically other than to say that clearly we had some benefit in gross margin rate from something some of the colder weather lower product margins businesses pushed out a little bit, so that will come back to us a little bit in the next quarter.
- Analyst
Great, thanks.
Good luck.
Operator
Our next question comes from Gary Balter, Credit Suisse.
Your line is open.
- Analyst
Good morning, it's actually Seth Basham for Gary.
- CFO
We wouldn't have it any other way.
- Analyst
Congratulations on a strong quarter, gentlemen.
- CEO
Thank you.
- Analyst
A couple questions for you on the Commercial side as well.
You've talked in the past about the number of test programs you had.
Can you update us on that and if you built a better mouse trap now, where do you expect that number to go over the course of this year?
- CEO
Seth as I said in the script we have over 900 stores that are now on that "Test program".
We don't really view it as much about a test now, as those stores are operating with a different model than the other ones.
I also said that we're going to be methodical about it.
One of the things we've done in the Commercial business is we've had some fits and starts over the years since we started in this business in 1996.
We are very committed to making sure that we continue to stay the course and be methodical with how we roll this out.
Over time, we do look to roll this new program and its enhanced tools to more and more stores over time.
Will we ever get to all stores, I think that's yet to be determined.
- Analyst
In terms of the number of feet on the street so to speak, the salesforce, what kind of numbers are we talking about there now and how much do you expect to expand that?
- CEO
Well we haven't quantified the number of people but it's directly related to the number of stores that are on the test program, so when we originally started the program we had 300 or so stores on it and now we've tripled that number, so you could assume that we've tripled the number of feet on the street since we originally rolled this out.
- Analyst
Okay.
- Analyst
This is Gary.
- CEO
Hi, Gary.
- Analyst
As far as the other Bill that I'm on the phone, but could you talk about regional differences, because you're obviously nationwide.
How bad is California?
How bad is Florida right now?
- CEO
You know, Gary, I'm going to go back to what we said in the script, that we didn't see anything.
We certainly see differences, positive and negative in regional differences.
We believe most of those are driven by what we do.
Are there certain parts of the area that are more challenged?
Yes, but I also go back to, we've never been able to develop a statistical correlation that says that macroeconomic challenges impact our business.
So we said a couple, I guess a year and a half ago or so, that when Florida went through some of the rebounds after the hurricanes that there appeared to be an infusion of cash from the FEMA money and that we saw some benefits from that and detriment that relapsed it, but I don't want to try to draw a correlation that there's a statistical correlation between macroeconomic trends and our sales performance because we simply haven't seen any.
- Analyst
Okay, thank you.
- CFO
Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from Matthew Fassler, Goldman Sachs.
Your line is open.
- Analyst
Thanks a lot.
Congratulations on the nice showing.
My question this morning also focuses on Commercial and trying to really hone in on the test stores and if you just give us anymore color on the differences between those stores and the rest of the Commercial stores.
And also, what is the cost and the time that it takes to roll out those initial measures, less than half your Commercial stores right now would suggest that, if they're working, the opportunity to get additional traction is significant.
- CEO
Well, to that point, I'll start there, Matt.
Those additional resources are not that costly if we roll them into our higher volume stores, and so the bigger concentration of the stores that are on that program are the higher volume Commercial stores that have significant growth and prospects.
And so as we go farther down into the penetration, it's more challenging than it was at the beginning parts, and so that's why we're being methodical about it, but as we continue to roll it we continue to find more and more success factors, it includes elements, your other question, what elements does it include?
It certainly includes an outside salesforce.
It also includes some incentive compensation for the sales team that's leading that effort, and additional assets such as additional trucks and some inventory additions albeit not significant, not terribly significant.
- Analyst
And Bill, is it fair to say that a lot of that pick up that you saw in Commercial sales per store in the quarter related to those 900 units or was it evident more broadly across the Company?
- CEO
We saw growth across the board, Matt.
Those units are growing faster but we've seen nice improvement across the board, and a lot of the things that we're working on are going to all of the stores.
Certainly, all of the parts coverage additions that we made through our new inventory assortment tool, went to all of those stores, so the other stores are getting significant improvements as well just not some of the things like an outside salesforce.
- Analyst
Understood, thank you so much.
Operator
Our next question comes from Danielle Fox, Merrill Lynch, your line is open.
- Analyst
All right, thank you.
I have a couple of questions.
First, you mentioned that you now see the Company achieving leverage on a 1.5 to 2% comp.
Could you just remind us what the previous hurdle was for achieving leverage?
- CFO
I think it was probably pretty close to the same.
We're going to have variations by quarter, but we think on a long term basis 1.5 to 2% same-store sales growth should generate leverage on an SG&A basis.
- Analyst
Okay, and then you mentioned the occupancy costs.
Should that, is that something that you'll anniversary after a year or does this represent a fundamental change in the business?
For example, a decision to lease rather than own locations or something along those lines?
- CFO
Yes, what we're finding is that we're getting a higher percentage of lease versus owned stores as we continue to expand the store count overall, so that's really what's putting more pressure on SG&A.
I mean at the end of the day, it continues to still be profitable.
It's just a question of whether it's between SG&A or interest, and so what we're seeing is a slightly higher percentage of leased stores versus owned, it puts a little bit of pressure on SG&A from occupancy cost standpoint.
- Analyst
Okay, and then I think there have been some speculation when industry sales were weak broadly that maybe there was some customers were delaying maintenance and repair.
Do you have any sense that that was the case and that maybe you're seeing a little bit of that pent-up demand hit the sales line or do you think this is more a function of some of the initiatives that you're putting in place that maybe more of a market share gain?
- CEO
I think the biggest determinant of our success, Danielle is what are we doing in our business.
Certainly, there can be times of moderate pent-up demand, but to me it's not pent-up demand.
It's lost demand.
If somebody doesn't change their brake pads at 20,000 miles and goes to 25,000 miles, they aren't going to change them faster the next time, so are we getting to normalized cycles?
I don't know.
We don't really see material changes in the macro performance of this industry.
The industry seems to grow at about a 4% growth rate on the DIY side and 4.5 on DIFM.
Certainly we see periods of time when gas prices appear to negatively impact our business, but that doesn't seem to last terribly long and as we mentioned in the script, we wanted to characterize it.
It's in the low single digit range, so it's not a huge determinant of our success.
Our point of view is we have to do what's right for this business over the long term.
- Analyst
Thank you.
- CFO
Thank you.
Operator
The next question is from John Lawrence from Morgan Keegan.
- Analyst
Good morning, guys.
- CFO
Good morning, John.
- Analyst
Taking that one step further, Bill, could you talk a little bit about going back to the gross margin issue?
As far as direct imports and give us a little timeline as far as the increase in pressure from cost and how that relates to different categories, in terms of direct imports or are you seeing any shift there, and what we will look forward going forward there?
- CFO
Yes, the import program for us is still relatively immature.
We continue to make progress in increasing the amount of imports and we think that is helping in lowering our overall product acquisition cost.
We see commodity based increases predominantly from an import standpoint on steel, and so many of our hard parts as you can imagine have that as a component, and that continues to put pressure on it.
So that is one tactic that we have but we're very much focused on being able to drive down our overall product acquisition cost so we can continue to add value to our customers on a long term basis.
So this is something that will take time.
I don't expect us to have dramatic or significant swing improvement on imports.
This is something that will take time and be over the next several years and continue to make improvements in gross margin.
- Analyst
Thanks and last question, Bill, would you discuss a little bit, as Commercial is getting sort of a better foundation and structure here going forward, how does ALLDATA play into this and are there synergies there with using ALLDATA as you get further along in that process?
- CEO
Yes, obviously ALLDATA is a terrific tool for the shops to use.
As we move forward, we continue to look for ways to leverage ALLDATA with our Commercial sales program.
There's some improvements going on there and first the base product of ALLDATA continues to improve.
We've also rolled out shop Management systems so that we get more engaged with the shop, and we've created some electronic ordering programs so that they, our customers can order directly from ALLDATA's software and order parts from AutoZone.
And than ALLDATA has also moved into the collision business, which gives us another avenue for growth, not that we're selling collision parts, but in a lot of those collision oriented repairs, there are mechanical parts that have to be repaired as well, so that gives us another entry into more customers.
- Analyst
Great.
Thanks a lot.
- CEO
Thank you.
Operator
The next question is from Tony Cristello of BB&T.
- Analyst
Thanks, good morning, gentlemen.
- CEO
Good morning.
- Analyst
I guess one question I had, can you just give some color on what your Commercial customers themselves may be relaying to you in terms of feedback with some of the recent changes or initiatives you put in place?
- CEO
I think the biggest point of feedback that they continue to give us is that they have noticed a significant improvement in our parts coverage.
They also, where two or three years ago, we heard a lot of feedback on service and service failures, we hear much less feedback, this is anecdotal, Tony, but much less feedback on service-oriented failures and we attribute that to the implementation of our PDA's, which allow us realtime information on how our service is actually occurring at the shop.
And so when we have service failures we are able to add new resources or correct them in short order, but I think it's primarily parts coverage and service improvements.
And we really spent a lot of the last year, a little over a year, we kind of called time out and said we have to get the basics right, and although we'll never have them perfectly right, we've made some significant improvements on doing the things that are critically important to our customers.
- Analyst
When you look then at wanting to go from 900 stores to however many ultimately if you choose to get to all of the Commercial service stores, what type of spend committment will you see and I guess what I'm asking is what we saw for investment in training and Marketing, some of these investments you made during the quarter that caused a little bit of the deleverage, is that just sort of an ongoing expense as you just continue to try and get more out of your business and sort of better match what the demand side is for what you're trying to provide to your customers?
- CEO
You know, if you look back over the period of time that we rolled these stores out, we have had some quarters of delever and SG&A, but primarily that's been driven by the occupancy expense that Bill discussed earlier.
And to the extent we continue to lease stores, and move that interest cost from below the operating margin into the operating margin, we may well continue to have that negative impact.
As we've said before, we're not operating with a fixed operating margin.
We're worried about improving operating profit dollars, and so my point with all that is we continue to roll those programs out and it has never been something that we've called out as a material change in what our cost structure has been, so I don't anticipate it being that case as we move forward.
- Analyst
Well and I guess what another point to that I would ask is do you feel like the investments that you're making, short of the parts assortment, more people or better Marketing or training, has that resulted yet in driving the revenue or is that something that ultimately, as you get further down the road, you'll start to get more traction with?
- CEO
Well, I certainly hope that over time we'll gain more traction but certainly because of the performance of those stores has exceeded, for an extended period of time, the performance of our base programs that don't have those additional resources, we think it's the right thing to do and we think it's paying out over the long term.
- Analyst
Okay, and one last question.
On sort of the DIY side of the business, how much detail do you have now with respect to tracking the buying patterns of your customer and how loyal the advantage or the frequency of maybe how much in terms of an oil change intervals might be, any details you could share with me in terms of what patterns you track?
- CEO
Yes, we implemented an electronic loyalty card program in December of last year, so we are now beginning to compile that information but it's the first time we've looked at it, so interpreting trends out of it is a rather difficult so far, but we believe we will be able to do that over the long term.
Specifically oil change intervals, we've seen the industry information that says they've significantly increased over time.
We're working as hard as we can to convey to our customers that although your owner's manual may say that you can wait to 7,000 miles or 7,500 miles that that says under normal operating conditions, and in severe operating conditions are characterized as things like starting and stopping and the way most of us drive, so we're continuing to try to remind our customers that they do need to stick to those shorter intervals and what we believe is 3,000 miles.
- Analyst
Okay, great.
Thanks, guys.
- CFO
Thank you.
Operator
The next question is from David Cumberland of Robert Baird.
- Analyst
Good morning.
In the Commercial business you mentioned overcoming the change with Midas.
Can you comment on your progress on converting some of that business to more Hot Shot business at Midas?
- CEO
Well at Midas, we continue to focus very much on the Midas franchisees and growing our business with them.
One of the things that happened when we came out is we were no longer a " Approved supplier" of Midas Hot Shot business, but that doesn't mean that a lot of the Midas shops have not continued to buy with us.
So we've had headwind both on the supply chain side as well as on the Hot Shot side with Midas, but we continue to do very well with many of the Midas dealers and franchisees and hope to continue to build upon our relationship with them.
- Analyst
Thanks, Bill, and can you also elaborate on the promotions that you mentioned as helping sales, what types of things did you do and also do you plan a similar approach going forward?
- CEO
Yes, we have a normal promotional calendar that we roll out once a period for us or basically once a month.
We change the window signs in our stores.
A lot of them have focused on oil changes.
You'll see others in the industry that at times will focus on price points for individual quarts.
We have focused our efforts more on the complete job and trying to convey to them to do the whole job and give them a great reason to come visit our store.
Also on Commercial side we continue to roll out the Marketing materials that we talked about in the conference call, and have been very excited about what those Marketing materials have meant to our AutoZoners and their ability to make an effective sales call with our customer.
We have great stories to tell and a lot of product categories, and as we script that out, it helps educate our AutoZoners as well as our customers.
We've been pleased with that progress.
- Analyst
Thank you.
Operator
The next question is from Gregory Melich of Morgan Stanley.
- Analyst
Thanks, guys.
A couple questions.
One is, we've seen, you mentioned inflation being low or mid single digit.
How did that trend sequentially, and particularly with lead and a lot of the commodity prices going up for oil and what not?
- CFO
I'd say it probably hasn't changed dramatically.
We continue to see that.
Obviously, if you looked at it over the last two years it's obviously up quite a bit, but there's no question that the oil base and energy base commodity prices have been there for quite some time, so we continue to see pressure on that, and we continue to see some pressure on lead maybe a little bit more recently.
- Analyst
So maybe a little bit incremental from lead but fundamentally, from the Fourth Quarter to the the First Quarter, no shift that's more than 100 basis points or something like that?
- CFO
I would say nothing significant.
- Analyst
Okay, and then second is, as you get people off the pay on scan, do you take the offsetting benefit, do you typically get it in margin or do you get it from payables?
- CFO
That's more from payables.
This is really a financing tool and again we're to some extent indifferent as to how the vendors want to finance it whether they want to be on pay on scan or whether we want to negotiate it through terms, so we're committed to on a long term basis get to 100% inventory and we believe we can get there and so pay on scan is simply one metric that we can use and obviously we've been unwinding that, so that's beneficial to the vendors we're going to continue to do that, but we'll negotiate it back on terms.
- Analyst
Okay, great.
So that did not have an influence on gross margin?
- CFO
No.
- Analyst
Okay, great.
Thanks.
- CFO
Yes, thank you.
Operator
The next question is from Matt Nemer from Thomas Weisel Partners.
Matt Nemer, your line is open.
- Analyst
Good morning, sorry about that.
My first question is on the weather related product mix shift.
Have you, or could you, quantify or talk to the impact on traffic ticket and gross margin rate in the quarter?
- CFO
We haven't really specifically quantified it as much.
We have certainly said on a longer term basis that certainly, much of our same-store sales is driven a little bit by overall average ticket versus traffic.
- Analyst
Okay, and then secondly, following up on the last question, the government data shows a pretty significant increase in inflation in your product category, this quarter versus last quarter, and I'm just wondering why your experience would be different than that, is it the composition of the basket?
- CFO
When you say that, we're talking really about product acquisition so it takes time for that to roll in etc.
We've been dealing with increased inflationary prices on product for some period of time and expect to continue to do so, and so again, that puts more emphasis on us to be able to continue to try to reduce our product acquisition costs, and to the extent that we can pass those prices on over the marketplace passes those prices on, we will continue to do so , so I appreciate the clarification because I don't want you to think as though we're immune from it.
We continue to receive significant pressure.
I just mentioned we didn't see anything in the individual quarter that was significant versus what we had been
- Analyst
And is there a way to quantify the pass on rate to consumers?
Have you been able to pass on 90% of that or is there anyway to put some numbers around that?
- CFO
We haven't really quantified it.
It's a fair question.
I would say that the majority of it has been passed on, is probably the simplest way to say it.
I wouldn't give you an exact percentage but the majority has been passed on.
- Analyst
That's helpful and then lastly, your late model coverage parts that you've added in Commercial, can you talk to the take rate or the interest in that product set on the DIY side of the business?
- CEO
Yes, that's a great question.
We see significant amount of the sales, obviously 85% of our business is in Retail, and a significant amount of the sales of that late model inventory is still in the DIY side.
It's a higher percentage on the Commercial than our normal product set, but it's still a significant amount of it goes into DIY sales.
- Analyst
Which is a bit of a departure I think from what we've heard from companies in this space over the years that your core segment is older model vehicles.
Why do you think you're having so much success with late model parts?
- CEO
I think it depends on the category.
Obviously if it's a part that's warrantied then we are not selling those parts, if they're in the three or four year cycle, but in places like filtration, batteries, brakes, where they are not under warranty, we still get the opportunity to sell them for those folks that maintain their vehicles themselves.
- Analyst
Got it.
That's helpful.
Thank you.
- CFO
Thank you.
Operator
The next question is from Peter Benedict of Wachovia.
- Analyst
Hi, guys, thanks for taking the call.
Most of my questions have been already asked here but just Bill, when we think about the inventory going forward and the growth, should we think these First Quarter trends are somewhat representative of what we should think will play out over the balance of the year?
Could you just give us a little bit more insight into how you see the inventory?
- CFO
From an overall inventory level standpoint, again we're going to continue to, because we have good leverage from an inventory standpoint, we're going to continue to make sure that we make appropriate investments in our inventory, and as part of our category line reviews where we identify opportunities to add additional inventory to insure we can improve our late model coverage in order to say yes, we're going to do so.
And at the same time we're going to work hard at rationalizing out our unproductive inventory, so I think these inventory levels overall are feel good to us where we are and as we go forward, we expect to stay similar to that with probably some slight investments.
- Analyst
That's fair, and just one quick one on the buyback.
Understanding that your spending is operations dependent, assuming a similar operating environment, balance of the year, you spent about $700-$800 million last year on the buyback.
Any reason why we shouldn't expect something at least in that ballpark for this year?
- CFO
What I would tell you is that we're committed to getting back to our 2.1 times debt to EBITDAR metric by the end of Fiscal 2008.
- Analyst
Perfect.
Fair enough.
Thanks.
- CFO
Thank you, Peter.
Operator
Now I'll turn the call back over to Bill Rhodes for closing remarks.
- CEO
Thank you.
Before we conclude the call, I'd like to take a moment to reiterate that we are excited about our growth prospects for the remainder of our fiscal 2008.
We understand we have to earn those sales every day.
We have a solid game plan but I want to stress that this is a marathon and not a sprint.
While the macro environment remains challenging, our focus is on our critical success factors.
While we have an incredible business model built on a strong foundation of disciplined processes focused on delivering great Customer Service, we understand we cannot take anything for granted.
As we continue to focus on the basics and never take our eye off of optimizing long term shareholder value, we are confident we will continue to be incredibly successful.
We thank you very much for participating in today's call and I want to wish everyone Happy Holidays.
Thank you.