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  • Operator

  • Welcome to the Atlas Corp. Second Quarter 2020 Conference Call. I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded today, August 11, 2020. I would now like to turn the call over to Ryan Courson, Chief Financial Officer of Atlas.

  • Ryan Courson;Chief Financial Officer

  • Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss Atlas' second quarter earnings. On the call with me today is Atlas' President and CEO, Mr. Bing Chen; Seaspan's Chief Commercial Officer, Mr. Peter Curtis; and also available during the Q&A session is Seaspan's Chief Operating Officer, Mr. Torsten Pedersen; and Atlas' Chairman, Mr. David Sokol. I would like to remind you that our discussion today contains forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those stated or implied due to the risks and uncertainties associated with our business. Our known risk factors are discussed in our Form 20-F and our reports on the Form 6-K filed from time to time in connection with our quarterly financial results, both of which are available on our website for review.

  • To start, this quarter, we have introduced new non-GAAP metrics. We believe these non-GAAP metrics will provide our investors a clear understanding of the financial performance of our businesses. I will touch on these new metrics in more in detail during the review of our financial performance. For these definitions and reconciliations to the most closely comparable U.S. GAAP metrics, please refer to our earnings release or the appendices at the back of this earnings presentation. In addition, we have also provided historical reconciliations for these non-GAAP metrics through 2018, which are also available on our website for review. For today's call, Bing will start by providing highlights on our operating performance and corporate recent developments. Peter will then provide commentary on Seaspan and the containership industry, including impacts from COVID-19. I will then wrap up with a review of our recent financial results, including an overview of our new non-GAAP financial metrics. I will provide an update on our balance sheet, liquidity and capital allocation initiatives.

  • With that, I will now pass the call over to Bing.

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Thank you, Ryan, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to Slide 4. A lot has happened since our last earnings call, and this is the first full quarter combining APR performance. Overall, Atlas' performance continues to be strong amid COVID-19 due to our resilient business model. We have experienced several macroeconomic downturns in the past and throughout each cycle, and our business continues to deliver strong financial results and quality growth. During this time, we have focused on 4 initiatives: first, maintaining asset utilization and expanding our contractor revenue profile; second, ensuring the health and safety of our global team; third, deepening our trusted customer partnerships; and fourth, continuing our disciplined approach to balance sheet management and liquidity.

  • I will highlight these discussions during my update on the development about Seaspan and the APR energy. In terms of our asset utilization and the long-term contracted revenue, we have demonstrated resiliency, especially over the last 2 quarters among the unprecedented market conditions. We've grown long-term contract revenue to $4.6 billion, which provides stability and predictability for our businesses. Over 98% of our 2020 midpoint revenue guidance is currently under contract, which is why we're able to tighten our guidance positively this quarter. At Seaspan, we are continuously focusing on expanding existing charter with customers while strategically acquiring new vessels on long-term charters. As we have demonstrated with our recent acquisition of 2 high-quality 13,000 TEU vessels. At APR, like at Seaspan, we are focused on operational excellence on existing plants. We're executing on new projects such as the 3 Mexicali sites which achieved commercial operations since acquiring APR and focusing on building a pipeline of new quality long-term projects. These achievements drove our strong financial performance in Q2. Atlas delivered record quarterly revenue of $363.8 million with Seaspan contributing record containership leasing revenue of $303.8 million. After removing our formal adjusted financial metrics in 2018 to simplify reporting, we are now introducing funds from operations and adjusted EBITDA. These 2 new performance metrics will better reflect our business performance in addition to our standard GAAP reporting. We achieved funds from operations per share of $0.64 and adjusted EBITDA of $238.9 million this quarter. Ryan will discuss the importance of these metrics later. The 60th consecutive dividend distribution we announced last month reflects our commitment to long-term shareholder value creation. Yesterday, we announced that Seaspan achieved an investment-grade insurance rating of BBB minus, relating to its cornerstone portfolio financing program and a corporate rating of BB. To achieve this during a time when COVID-19 is impacting the global economy is truly a testament to the resiliency of our business model and the dramatic credit improvements we have made since 2018.

  • Please turn to Slide 5. We delivered record quarterly revenue while ensuring the health and safety of our global employees. The well-being of our staff remains our top priority. In addition to new business continuity plans, we have implemented new processes and protocols that enable us to continue to deliver our operational excellence. Despite the unprecedented pandemic, we facilitated over 800 crew changes in the month of July and integrated 11 vessels into Seaspan's fleet during the last 8 months. We completed 10 vessel scrubber retrofits on time and on budget despite project complexities and COVID-19. We also completed 18 vessel dry dockings. We continue to focus on environment and safety, receiving our ISO 14001 certification, improving our LTIF, receiving a U.S. Coast Guard award for environmental protection and being awarded outstanding service and operational excellence by our top global liner. Our people are at the core of our success. The fortitude and resourcefulness of our people in unprecedented working conditions has been truly remarkable. I'm extremely proud of our seafarers and want to give our special appreciation for all their hard work and sacrifices they have made to operate 125 vessels, 724 across the globe through their uncompromised services to our liner customers.

  • Please turn to Slide 6, where I will highlight Seaspan's development for the quarter. Seaspan's performance has been minimally affected by COVID-19 as we have proactively adjusted our operations to mitigate potential impacts. Seaspan continues to benefit from transformative improvements, long-term partnerships and disciplined growth while delivering strong financial performance on the back of our solid balance sheet and liquidity management. We continue our execution on growth opportunities with the recent acquisition of 2 high-quality 13,000 TEU container ships for $146 million, which are backed by long-term charter with a leading global liner. This was an attractive acquisition from a risk-adjusted return perspective, which increases our long-term contracted revenue by over $150 million and a contribution of approximately $7 million and $20 million of EBITDA for 2020 and 2021, respectively. This acquisition was made possible through our long-term partnership approach. As miners are becoming more dominant, they increasingly demand scalable, reliable and flexible partners and provide thoughtful solutions instead of simply supplying tonnage. We expect our continue -- to create those opportunities through our trusted partnership. While we have been growing over the past year, including 13 acquired vessels through Seaspan and the acquisition of APR energy, we have remained disciplined and have not sacrificed our balance sheet nor liquidity simply for the sake of growing. We ended the quarter with a strong liquidity of over $380 million and a pro forma for the acquisition will maintain a strong net debt-to-equity ratio of approximately 1.2x. Our debt profile remains conservative with no significant maturity until the end of 2022. I want to reiterate that we have been and will continue to take a disciplined approach to deploying our capital. These investments were all backed by long-term charter with leading global liners as well as meeting our quantitative and qualitative criteria. In July, we expanded Seaspan's $150 million unsecured revolving credit facility by 2 years, which is important to our liquidity management and a testament of our access to global capital markets through the cycles. Just yesterday, Seaspan achieved an investment-grade credit rating for its cornerstone financing program, which is a major milestone in our efforts to reduce our cost of funding and scale our asset base. I'm also pleased to announce the appointment of Torsten Pedersen as Chief Operating Officer of Seaspan. Torsten has demonstrated world-class leadership in delivering Seaspan's operational excellence over the last 2 years, and I'm confident that he will excel in his new role as we continue to set the frontier for the operational excellence. On the commercial side, despite a very challenging market, our team has proven again the strength of our platform by delivering a best-in-class Q2 utilization rate of 97.4%. As of today, all 125 vessels in our global fleet have secured charters in place.

  • Please turn to Slide 7 where I will provide APR developments for the quarter. As we communicated at our 2019 Investor Day, we see tremendous upside potential in APR and are working towards the transforming the business to the next level. I'm very pleased to announce the recent appointment of Brian Rich as the President and COO. Brian has deep expertise and networks in the global energy and power sector and was formerly President and CEO of APR between 2012 and 2015. Brian is well aligned with API's priority focus going forward, and we are confident in his leadership to drive APR's operational excellence and sustainable growth.

  • APR's power fleet utilization for Q2 was supported by mobilization of 8 turbines across 3 power plants in Mexicali. These 8 turbines contributed $12 million of revenue in Q2, and we expect these projects to contribute approximately $41 million of adjusted EBITDA during 2020. Due to the mobile and fast power nature of the APR's fleet, we expect the utilization to fluctuate as these turbines are put on different contracts around the world. However, we are confident in our ability to maintain a strong utilization. While COVID-19 has impacted API's business through a reduction in overall global power consumption, we continue to structure the business as a long-term oriented energy solution provider. Our priority is to sustain and improve asset utilization while focusing on expanding the duration of existing contracts. This will require a shift in focus of partnerships and solution offerings. In addition, we will continue to be more selective on potential deployment opportunities around the world that meet our risk management criteria. We also continue to execute on our business strategy with strong commitment to ESG, divesting idle diesel generators and making operational improvements. Just to highlight, during the Q2, APR's overall availability was maintained at over 98% and an LTIR of 0.72. So with that, I will now hand over to Peter.

  • Peter Curtis - Chief Commercial Officer

  • Thank you, Bing. Please turn to Slide 9, I will comment on developments in the global container shipping industry and their impact on Seaspan. Overall, the container shipping industry continues to operate in somewhat challenging conditions. While these are not ideal, Seaspan's position and performance is mitigated by our long-term contracted business leading position, attractive fleet and relationships with our leading global partners. We have both retained and secured charters for our whole fleet against the global idle fleet that peaked 12% in May and has contracted since then to approximately 8% or less. Combine this with a disciplined approach displayed by our customers, our performance to date is a testament to our business model. We remain very closely engaged with our customers globally in order to retain business and to seek opportunities to insert ourselves into the niche areas where they have required tonnage solutions in a volatile period of time. In fact, through this COVID-affected period, we have only increased dialogue with customers in support of our style of full scope service delivery, and this is proving to enhance our position further. COVID's near-term impact is clear with global annualized TEU volumes expected to decline approximately 8% to 10% year-on-year from 2019, with pressure primarily on the mainland, Asia-Europe and Asia-North America trades, that each comprise approximately 13% of global TEU moves. In contrast, Asian countries have steadily been recovering, resulting in intra-Asia volumes improving a trade segment, which represents approximately 30% of global TEU moves. As we have moved through the first half of 2020, we have seen the most significant dip in volumes having been in March, followed by improvements month-on-month since then. We anticipate a global trade recovery through 2021 as North America and Europe recover. While pressure was experienced on charter rates through the first half, Seaspan's position has been mitigated by a relatively small spot exposure, an attractive fleet with over 70% of our vessels being over 9,000 TEU capacity. We remain focused on managing our short-term exposure during this time, which comprises approximately 10% of Seaspan's fleet by TEU or approximately 2% by revenue for the remainder of 2020.

  • Please turn to Slide 10. The decline in volumes has driven the elevated idle fleet as liners both redelivered vessels and idle portions of their own or chartered fleet. The idle fleet levels peaked at about 12% mid-Q2 and has declined to the current level of just above 7%. A large proportion of the idle fleet is sub-3,000 TEU, plus 2% in scrubber refits and the balance is mostly made up of larger vessels on blank sailings. Against these current challenges, we are optimistic about long-term industry prospects, not only from a supply and demand side, but also from a commercial standpoint. As Bing mentioned, during these difficult times, customers increasingly look for providers that offer value-added services, a significant competitive advantage provided by Seaspan's fully integrated operating platform and keen sense of collaboration with our customers. I believe we have witnessed somewhat of a paradigm shift, liner behavior in stressed times. This year, they exercised a great degree of discipline through capacity supply control and have managed to support freight rates and have performed much better financially than was expected. We expect their discipline will sustain into the future and the stability of the industry shall be improved. In parallel, liners shall seek stronger tonnage providers more than before in support of their service delivery quality and reliability improvement aspirations. On the supply side, the order book remains at historically low levels of below 10% with discipline expected to persist. Deliveries are expected to continue to moderate into 2020 and 2021 with current builds experiencing slippage. This, along with the pickup in scrapping, will continue to provide support towards supply and demand equalization. Freight and charter rates have remained well above 2008 and 2016 downturn level. Even during the height of COVID, we have seen profitable charter rates. Our customers have also done relatively well, supported by their alliance partners, lower bunker prices and government support where needed. We have been in close dialogue with all of our customers who remain strong throughout this difficult time. We remain confident in our customer mix which composes of the world's leading liners.

  • Finally, we remain disciplined in engaging in risk-adjusted accretive vessel acquisition activities, contingent on mutually benefiting both ourselves and customers. We recently announced agreements to acquire 2 13,000 TEU vessels, which will be deployed on long-term time charters with a leading global liner. We continue to find optimal solutions for our customers and take advantage of strategic opportunities to grow during this time while simultaneously maintaining our strong balance sheet.

  • I now hand over the call to Ryan to discuss financial performance.

  • Ryan Courson;Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you, Peter. If you could all please turn to Slide 12. As mentioned at the beginning of the call, we are introducing new non-GAAP metrics into our financial disclosure to coincide with the first full quarter of consolidated Seaspan and APR financial results. These metrics include adjusted EBITDA, funds from operation, or FFO for short, and FFO per share. We have chosen to introduce these non-GAAP metrics for a number of reasons. These financial performance metrics align Atlas' external financial disclosure with our internal management evaluation of financial performance, which is focused on long-term cash flows and return on invested capital. In the past, our focus on the cash flow generation of Seaspan and now EPR, with FFO and FFO per share aligning how we internally view cash flow generation available to common shareholders. As a result, FFO per share will be our headline reporting figure going forward instead of earnings per share. Adjusted EBITDA also provides a way for our investors to evaluate our cash flows, prefinancing our capital structure initiatives. This is particularly relevant for the Seaspan business as EBITDA is a very good proxy for cash flows available for servicing principal and interest as the business pays very minimal income taxes. This selection of metrics also allows us to provide a clear picture of our financial performance across time periods, unobscured by noncash and onetime items, ultimately, allowing investors a more comparable view of performance across these time periods. Finally, our new disclosures provide comparable performance metrics between Atlas' business segments across similar peers as adjusted EBITDA and FFO are performance and valuation metrics across many similar hard asset businesses like Atlas. To close our review of these new performance metrics, we want to highlight that we have chosen FFO as our key reporting metric going forward as it represents on a gross and per share basis, the value that is available to our common shareholders. By adjusting out the noncash swings that have historically impacted our EPS and noncore business items, this metric represents cash available for management to allocate to create value for our shareholders. Our objective is to grow this metric, both on an absolute and per share basis, which will allow us to allocate capital for further strategic growth while continuing to return capital to our shareholders through our dividends.

  • Please turn to Slide 13 where I will provide a summary of our financial results. Overall, we are pleased with our performance for this quarter. We achieved record financial results despite the challenging macroeconomic environment, demonstrating the resiliency in our business. We are confident in the long-term stability of our business with $4.6 billion of contracted revenue, and both APR and Seaspan businesses being fully funded with no major maturities until the end of 2022. Seaspan's vessel utilization remained strong at 97.4% for the quarter. This is notable despite the broader container ship leasing industry's second quarter experiencing the highest idle fleet level seen in the past decade. We also note that the number of unscheduled off-hire days was limited to only 90, less than 1% of ownership days across the fleet, further demonstrating our ability to effectively manage our short-term charter exposure. APR's power fleet utilization for the quarter was 68.4%, as APR's turbines were mobilized and installed for our Mexicali projects. A full quarter of these turbines will be reflected in our Q3 utilization.

  • Revenue increased 32% to $363.8 million for the quarter when compared to the same period in 2019, with the majority of this increase due to the full quarter of APR's revenue contribution. Seaspan's revenue increased 10% to $304 million, primarily due to the delivery of 11 vessels year-to-date, resulting in Seaspan's achieving a record quarter in revenue. Adjusted EBITDA was $239 million, a 37% or $65 million increase relative to the same period in 2019, driven by the contribution of APR and increased Seaspan contribution from the delivery of the 11 vessels noted above. FFO was $161 million for the quarter, a 76% or $70 million increase when compared to the same period in 2019, primarily due to the contribution from APR and improved Seaspan operating performance noted above. FFO represents Atlas' performance post interest and tax with these items driving the remaining difference. Improvements in our capital structure and decreases in LIBOR drove approximately $9 million in interest savings comparable to the same period in 2019. These interest savings were partially offset by the inclusion of APR's taxes. Finally, FFO per share of $0.64 increased 53% relative to the same period in 2019 and was up 21% on a quarter-over-quarter basis.

  • If you could please turn to Slide 14, I will provide an update on our guidance. Given our strong performance in quarter 2, we are providing an update to our previously provided guidance. As being highlighted, on a consolidated basis, over 98% of the midpoint of 2020's guidance is contracted as of today, highlighting the minimal spot exposure of our business. The full breakdown of Seaspan's and APR's contracted revenue is included in our quarterly filings. For Seaspan, we are tightening guidance on both the revenue side by increasing the bottom end of our revenue guidance and also improving the expense side by decreasing the top end of our operating expense and operating lease expense guidance. For APR, we are reaffirming our previously provided guidance and continue to track well to this guidance. I would like to again note that the APR guidance is for the 10-month consolidation period of February 29 to December 31, 2020. APR is a business secured by medium-term contracts with strong upside as additional capacity is deployed either on additional long-term projects or lucrative short-term fast track power solutions. While the decline in power consumption from COVID has slowed down our pipeline of potential projects, Brian Rich and his team are focused on deploying our assets and building a high-quality pipeline of global opportunities. For both companies, we are also introducing guidance for adjusted EBITDA. With the implementation of non-GAAP reporting, we will continue to guide to adjusted EBITDA. We also provide relevant disclosures to the investor community to allow you to forecast FFO and FFO per share.

  • Please turn to Slide 15 where we will discuss developments in our capital structure and financial position. We continue to be focused on creating shareholder value through capital allocation, as demonstrated by our significantly expanded operating fleet while improving our liquidity position and credit profile and maintaining our preferred and common dividends. Last night, we announced that Seaspan achieved an investment-grade senior secured issuance rating from Kroll Bond rating agency for Seaspan's portfolio financing program on the back of a BB corporate rating. As we have discussed, this portfolio financing program has grown to over $1.7 billion in commitments and represents the central piece of our capital structure. We intend to diversify our sources of funding through the institutional credit markets and continue to reduce our overall cost of funding and improve flexibility and amortization profile. Over the past 12 months, we have added 13 vessels to our fleet alongside the acquisition of APR. During which, we have also reshaped our balance sheet, lowering our cost of capital, improving both our maturity and liquidity profile. This has been accomplished through a relentless focus on maximizing Atlas' cash flow generation. On a trailing 12-month basis, Atlas has delivered approximately $500 million of FFO. As a result of this pursuit of cash flow optimization and the improvement in our debt capital structure, both Seaspan and APR are fully funded to the end of 2022. Atlas, as a platform and despite challenging economic conditions, continues to enjoy access to the global capital markets. The renewed Seaspan $150 million unsecured corporate credit facility on a 2-year term is a testament to the business' capital market relationships and their belief in our capital structure strategy. Alongside our introduction of non-GAAP metrics, we would also like to introduce our balanced scorecard for evaluating Atlas' leverage position. These are metrics that we focus on internally and metrics that we consider when executing new acquisitions and various capital allocation decisions. While there is no one metric to properly evaluate our capital structure and credit positioning, we believe these 4 metrics in concert, provide a holistic view of our leverage profile. Net debt to adjusted EBITDA and contracted revenue to net debt demonstrates cash flows available to service debt obligations and provide returns to our shareholders while adjusted EBITDA to cash interest represents our interest coverage. Finally, dividends per share to FFO per share provides a view to the cash flows available to our shareholders, which we return through dividends and reinvestment into the business for growth on our credit profile improvement. Lastly, if we could turn to Slide 16. While I often discuss our focus on improving our balance sheet and credit profile, I'd like to end off today by discussing our growth over the last 2.5 years. Since the beginning of 2018, we have deployed $3.4 billion of capital towards acquisition, including the acquisition of GCI in 2018 and APR in 2020. While deploying capital, we aim for strong risk-adjusted returns on invested capital. Although we don't disclose this metric or internal targets specifically. With the introduction of our new non-GAAP metrics, we are able to provide investors with the adjusted EBITDA contribution and the capital deployed for these various acquisitions. We believe these new disclosures will help demonstrate our track record across our various capital allocation initiatives over time. We continue to be pleased with the growth and financial performance that Seaspan and APR exhibited over the second quarter despite industry headwinds. It is a testament to the resilient business models and the hard work of our global team. We have and will continue to remain steadfast in our focus on disciplined growth and value creation for our shareholders. And with that, I will hand the call back over to the operator for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Chris Wetherbee with Citi.

  • Christian F. Wetherbee - MD & Lead Analyst

  • Maybe I could start on the container shipping side. So from a big picture perspective, it appears that liners are getting a bit more disciplined using blank sailings and other capacity management tools to be able to sort of manage rate and supply-demand within the business. When you think about sort of that consolidation that's occurred and that sort of greater discipline on the liner side, what do you think that means for tonnage providers as we think out over the course of the next couple of years? Does the pool get a little bit more selective? Are there other things that we're not thinking about? I just want to get a sense of how you guys sort of think about that?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Chris, this is Bing. To answer your question, it is absolutely true. Liners today, I think, through this COVID-19, further prove that I think from an industry standpoint, it's much more sustainable because I think through the consolidation, liners has been more focusing on delivering the quality service. Meanwhile, I think, they're also focusing on vertically integrating. For example, I think, yesterday, CMA acquired the port and today, Maersk acquired the port. And also, I think they acquired some -- some other liners acquired the land transportation. So from that perspective, I think the liners are increasing focusing on the quality of their services. And therefore, for the tonnage providers, I think the -- what they're looking for is the scale, the quality and reliability. And I think this is exactly what Seaspan is building is that through this COVID-19 as an example. While we've been impacted through the charter rates, however, if you're looking at our utilization, we have been able to maintain over 97% throughout the past quarters. And this is really a testament of -- even during this unprecedented market situation. I think liners are looking to companies like a tonnage provider, Seaspan, where we provide the quality service, at the same time, we provide the flexibility. Flexibility in terms of our scale, for example, when the liners, they have different needs on the vessel size or location that we were able to swap these vessels by size, by location and between the customers, which is also the reason why I think we were able to maintain such a high-utilization rate. So in general, I think going forward, as a tonnage provider, as we said it before, that we need to provide a solution. We need to have the scale. And we need to have the flexibility and quality, and that's only what the liners is looking for. By simply providing a vessel itself, definitely, that's not what they're looking for. They're looking for a partner to support them. Support them to grow their business, meanwhile, be able to work with them on a variety of needs with the vessel being one of the solution provider, whether it's a technology, whether it's operations, whether it's a commercial, financing, accounting. So all aspects, and I think that's why we are building the business as a true partner and solution provider to them.

  • Christian F. Wetherbee - MD & Lead Analyst

  • Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And then in terms of operating on the containership side during the quarter, should we assume that this quarter kind of, from a cost perspective, with some of the COVID disruptions is what we should expect this type of cost performance in sort of 3Q and 4Q? Some operators have suggested that things were actually fairly clean from a cost standpoint in 2Q. So maybe you might actually see some step up, but I think you're suggesting that you guys were moving assets around and doing some interchanges of crews during this process. So maybe it's sort of the consistent run rate. Just want to get a sense of sort of how clean these results are from a cost perspective and how we should think about sort of maybe the back half?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Yes. I will give a general update, and then Ryan and Torsten, you can give more details. On the cost side, we are very proud to say that given the COVID-19 impact, that it does create a lot of limitations on operations. However, I think we are extremely proud, and that's why I want to answer your question because I'm extremely proud of our team. Given these limitations, our team, whether it's onshore and also the seafarers, they've been able to demonstrate our operational excellence. In general, I think the number speaks for itself in a way that our cost on operational side actually has been minimally impacted. The only impact to us due to this COVID is really on the revenue side. And with that, I think Ryan and Torsten can add more, please.

  • Ryan Courson;Chief Financial Officer

  • Yes. So thanks for the question. If you go to Page 17 of the earnings release, you'll see incremental disclosure on an operating cost per day. As we've discussed before, we don't provide specific commentary on run rates or what the back half will look like specifically, but I think looking at the implied guidance for the full year provides a helpful view of what we think OpEx will be for the back half of the year. I'll turn it over to Torsten, but what I will say is Torsten and the operations team have done a fantastic job of managing cost during this environment. And there have been a number of cost-saving elements as it relates to COVID, whether it's crew optimization or working with various repair and maintenance programs. But with that, Torsten, turn it over to you.

  • Torsten Holst Pedersen - COO

  • Yes. Thanks, Ryan. As Ryan said, we are not disclosing run rates as such. But the model we have is robust to short and medium-term fluctuations even as severe as these. We have been trying to reduce costs wherever to mitigate for COVID impact. We will see bits and pieces come back in Q3 and Q4, but that's all included in our guidance.

  • Christian F. Wetherbee - MD & Lead Analyst

  • Okay. Okay. Now that's helpful. And last question, just sort of bigger picture. You've obviously been busy on the containership side. You did the APR deal about a year ago. I guess I just wanted to get a sense as you're thinking about putting capital to work where you see attractive opportunities? I'm not -- whether that be on the shipping side, if it's beyond container shipping or if it's sort of elsewhere? Just trying to get a sense of where you guys are thinking about opportunities and putting capital to work going forward?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Thank you, Chris. I'll answer the question. Just to clarify, on the API side, we actually just acquired at the end of February this year. So we actually just recently acquired APR. We did announce the APR acquisition last year. In terms of the capital allocation, that is an excellent question because looking forward, I think what we can say is that we will continue to focusing on to be the best-in-class asset operator and selectively, we own the assets and operating the assets. What we can say going forward is that what we will do and what we will not do. What we will do is that going forward, first of all, and we're going to continue to strengthen our management team. I think that's evidenced by the -- what we have done and what we have built the management team over the past years where we were able to focus on execution and deliver the results and that's why we were able to transform the Seaspan, and that's what we intend to do the same with APR going forward. So going forward, I think for us that we're going to continue to build the team because with the dynamic team that we have, and I think whenever there's an opportunities that we will be able to realize those opportunities and creating the value for our shareholders.

  • The second thing that we would do definitely is that we're going to continue to grow because we have the financial strength, we have the management expertise and I think we have the ability to create, as we have done so far, those types of growth opportunities. Because all those opportunities has been created with our partners and the customers. So we will leverage those trends and continue to expand our business and create value going forward. The third part, I think, that we're going to -- definitely going to do in terms of allocating capital is that, we're going to continue to focusing on our existing business of containership and also the power energy. These 2 platforms that give us the base and leverage because they are the market leaders in their respective area. We have the customer, we have the financial strength and we have the industry networks that support us to continue to lead our business. So therefore, we will continue to allocate the capital in those areas. And fourthly, I think, as we always said, that the things that we don't do is that we will not allocating the capital for the sake of allocating capital. We were never go into any kind of growth opportunities because we think it's interesting or we're going through any type of, for example, auction process. And also, we will not let ourselves to be distracted because we will only grow if we see this right opportunity that can create long-term sustainable value. And we're going to continue to focusing on growing, whether it's organically, aggressively of our existing business, which is the container shipping business and also the power business.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Michael Goldie with Bank of Montreal.

  • Michael Goldie - Associate

  • My first question revolves around guidance, especially Seaspan, it seems fairly unchanged despite the new vessel acquisitions. Can we get a sense of the puts and takes in this updated guidance or slightly lower charter rates being offset by the new acquisitions.

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Thanks, Mike, and happy to walk you through some puts and takes. On the revenue side, we do have the new acquisitions that are flowing in the back half of the year, and that impacts, obviously, revenue and then operating expense. And then you do have, to your point, the offset of some lower charter rates on the back end of the year related to the COVID-19 environment. That said, as Bing mentioned in his remarks, at the beginning of the call, 98% of our revenue for 2020 at this point is contracted. So we feel very comfortable with the tightening of guidance that we provided going back for the rest of the year.

  • Michael Goldie - Associate

  • Okay. Perfect. And then kind of looking at your conversations with your customers, how are those negotiations going? How are they looking relative to your existing contracts that are beginning to roll-off? Or are customers acknowledging the recovering environment?

  • Peter Curtis - Chief Commercial Officer

  • Yes. It's Peter. That's a good question. I think as we've both, Bing and I, have said in the presentation that we work very closely with our customers, and we've only become closer as we've gone through this trying period. The result has been that we've maintained utilization of the vessels. So in other words, we've been the one to get the employment versus others. We can't really control rates in the spot market. As Ryan says, the spot area of our business accounts for 2% of our business -- of our revenues. We engage very early with our customers. It's not a case of simply getting employment, but we engaged earlier than when the vessel rolls off, for example, we've done an earlier dry docking on a couple of our large vessels with one of the main liners. We anticipated that they would also be suffering from lower container volumes during this period. By advancing that, we were able to negotiate out of that an extension to that contract of over 3 years. So we seek these kinds of opportunities. We have the flexibility and the capability to perform along those measures.

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Just to add what Peter said, that in terms of our fleet of 125 vessels for 2021, about 85% of our revenue on Seaspan is already contracted. So we have about 15% of spot, meaning those vessels on charter that is less than one year. So our exposure is rather limited. And in addition to that because we can provide those integrated solutions and services with our customer, we close -- we are working very closely with our customer. And we are very confident that in terms of continue rolling these vessels into the long-term contract, it's part of the nature of our business. And as a matter of fact, right now, because of the rate is relatively low, it's not in our top priority to actually enter into a long-term charter at this point because I think that at the rate, as we speak right now is recovering.

  • Michael Goldie - Associate

  • Perfect. And then my final question has to do with APR. Utilization was around 68% for the quarter, and it sounds like those Mexicali contracts didn't really kick in or they weren't realized for the full quarter. How can we think about getting utilization up closer to that mid-70% range that we've seen historically? Will those Mexicali contracts, being in full effect for Q3, get us closer to that mark?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Yes, Michael, I think, the way to -- that's why I think the way we look at the APR business to, a certain extent, is similar to Seaspan is that we're going to work on both opportunities to improve the utilization. One is through the extension. The other one is through the new business opportunities. As you know, that APR's -- the fleet is more than half, it's under the long-term contract. The current COVID obviously have certain impact in terms of the reductions over the power consumption. However, I think the -- that's just, I think, we believe it's temporarily slowing down the decision-making process and also, of course, result in some, I think, a cancellation of the project. For example, back in May, the Puerto Rico prefer had a demand for about 350-megawatts power. But due to this COVID and for the peak seasons, they did not need to have this power so, therefore, there are certain impact. However, I think as we continue to working on, both exist type of opportunities that the management team are working on other opportunities such as -- we started looking at other opportunities such as a flared gas, LPG and other grid stabilization to broaden our portfolio of offerings. So therefore, that we will have more opportunities to get the turbines utilized. So over the period, I think we are still confident we will be able to improve the turbines utilization through the expansion and also the new opportunities.

  • Ryan Courson;Chief Financial Officer

  • And then, Michael, just as a clarification. For the third quarter pro forma for the Mexicali, what you'll see is 80% utilization for the APR power utilization fleet.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Ben Nolan with Stifel.

  • Benjamin Joel Nolan - MD

  • Let me start by saying I appreciate the enhanced metrics that you guys put out. Any additions to visibility is certainly helpful for my job. The -- I have a handful of questions. The first one is pretty easy for you, Ryan. With the addition of the rating here, I'm curious, it's a little nontraditional. It's not S&P or Moody's, why did you decided to go that direction, not that it matters a lot, just sort of curious.

  • Ryan Courson;Chief Financial Officer

  • Ben, thanks for the question. And it's a good one. KOL actually has a dominant position in the rating of industrial transportation companies. And as we think about potential institutional credit access for our business going forward, we think it's an incredibly important relationship and one that we're quite excited to continue to develop.

  • Benjamin Joel Nolan - MD

  • Okay. Perfect. So -- and then I've got one Seaspan type question and one maybe multi-faceted APR question, if I can. But on Seaspan, as it relates to this most recent transaction, I had seen that it was actually from another vessel owner rather than a liner, that might not be right, maybe you can help me. But I'm curious if there are maybe thematically more opportunities from maybe people like yourselves who are owners, but maybe don't have the same financial position and might be looking to sort of take advantage of maybe equity that they have in their existing assets to improve their balance sheet.

  • Ryan Courson;Chief Financial Officer

  • Yes. Thanks, Ben. I think if you look at the fragmentation that exists, and we talk about this in a variety of settings there's ample opportunity for further consolidation in the owner space. And whether it's in the near-term or over a longer period of time, we expect that consolidation to play out. As Bing mentioned during his commentary, our drive for consolidation isn't for the sake of consolidation, it's for strategically growing our business with the right risk-adjusted returns behind it. And so we expect these opportunities on the owner side to continue to be available, but it's important for us to not only, I think, about what opportunities exist, but how to match and marry those with our customers.

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • And then also just tied up to the previous question that we're talking about really, if we're looking at these opportunities, not only I think you need to have the equity, but also you need to have the customer needs. All these growth opportunities we have had so far is all driven by our customers' demand. Our liners value our services, and they want us to provide a service to them. And that is -- I think that's also one of the primary driver for these type of opportunities.

  • Benjamin Joel Nolan - MD

  • And then if I could switch over to APR and sort of ask a multifaceted question. I guess looking at the fleet, a little bit less than half of it is still diesel, from what I see, with the balance being gas, I'm curious. Number one is what's sort of the strategy in terms of the shift towards more gas-fired power generation internally. And is that something that where there are opportunities to buy? Any color on sort of what the global position of that might look like or order book of new capacity? And then sort of tying in with that, it was interesting, Bing, that you'd mentioned looking at sort of other tangential opportunities. Something that we've been hearing a whole lot about lately is hydrogen -- possibly hydrogen for power generation. I'm curious if you guys have looked at all at that, and I realize it's early stages, but is that an area that you might would or are investigating possibly delving in conjunction with what you're doing on the gas generation side?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Sure. Ben, I will try to answer the first question, and I think Peter and Torsten will be able to answer the second question on the hydrogen side access. It's funny that we actually had some discussion this morning -- yesterday. But with regarding to APR, currently, yes, we still have about 500-megawatts of capacity. But over the -- to answer your question, over the time, we are -- actually intend to divest in all these DPMs and focusing on gas turbines because we want to be in the forefront of environmental compliance. And so therefore, going forward, we're going to be more focusing on the gas turbine and divest the diesel generators. In terms of the business going forward, as you just mentioned, I think with the existing fleet that we have, we were going to be focusing on increasing the utilization. And that's the first and foremost priorities before we further considering growing the business because I think there's a lot more that we can improve from the existing business.

  • Then as the market -- because right now, the energy in power market is still evolving. I think we are very well, I think, tuned to the market development. So therefore, as the market develops, and as I mentioned earlier, whether it's flared gas, whether it's LPG and other technology requirement and also the transition from traditional power to those alternative power with the wind and solar, and I think that they are more increasing demand, for example, the grid stabilization. So we're going to grow our business as the market evolves and as our customer demands. So I think that is something that we are confident that we're going to continue to follow the demand of the market and our customer. But first and foremost, we're going to focusing on increasing the utilization of the existing fleet.

  • Ryan Courson;Chief Financial Officer

  • Thanks, Ben. And I'll let Torsten jump in if he has any thoughts on the hydrogen ship side, and I think that, that's an area that we've definitely evaluated. As it relates to APR, Ben, and hydrogen opportunities, as Bing mentioned earlier, in our -- in the Q&A, we evaluate a whole host of different technology applications to the various projects that we've engaged in, hydrogen being one of the many. And I think as we go forward, it will be a mix of evaluating these different technologies as well as different asset and project length combinations from a total growth perspective for APR.

  • Peter Curtis - Chief Commercial Officer

  • Yes. It's Peter here. Just in regards to the ship side. I can't speak very much to the power generation other than what Bing has said. The focus is on utilization and opportunities -- near to medium-term opportunities, such as the utilization of flare. On the marine side, there's a few considerations that we have to take into account. One is the availability of fuel; second one is we have to carry this stuff where we go; and thirdly, we have to carry enough of it to complete the voyage. So I think we're all aware of the various horizons facing the marine industry in regards to alternative fuels in line with the IMO ambitions on greenhouse gas reduction through 2030 and 2050. So we are very active in considering alternatives. It takes many years in terms of the availability of a sustainable fuel to be available to the market. LNG, for instance, over 20, 25 years to become readily available in the marine market as a fuel. Because the production, which is where the LNG tankers go is not necessarily where vessels need to be to tank up as a fuel. So we have been engaged in a number of feasibility projects. We engage with partners in the broader industries, such as oil majors, classification societies, engine makers, et cetera, to develop our views and potential visions of where we would go. I think one of the talks around town is about LNG as a fuel, thing's that's not a carbon-free fuel. So it is a pathway to improvement. But in the end, we would have to consider alternative fuels such as ammonia. It is one potential or others that would be carbon neutral by capturing carbon, producing fuel out of it. So you're not actually increasing carbon footprint.

  • Operator

  • And our next question comes from Randy Giveans with Jefferies.

  • Randall Giveans - VP,Senior Analyst & Group Head of Energy Maritime Shipping

  • I guess, first question, other than container shipping and power generation solutions, what other maybe infrastructure areas might overlap with your customers' interest as well as Atlas' interest? And then is there a role on how maybe diversified company becomes?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Yes. Randy, I think that's a very good question. I think that in terms of what we are looking at the synergy in terms of between the container shipping and the power, I think, right now, it's more from the business model, and I think the corporate assuring services, going forward, I think the opportunity will be largely depends on what kind of further customer demand and (inaudible), what are the investment opportunities that brings. We don't -- we do not set a specific silos of a target that we're going to grow into. Rather, I think right now, given these 2 platforms that we have, and then I think we're going to continue to build on that, and I think vertically and horizontally, we will see the right opportunities and then we'll allocate the capital. But whenever we do, if and when we're going to do that, I think we have to stick to our investment and capital allocation discipline and criteria. And so that's what, in general, what we're looking at future opportunities.

  • Randall Giveans - VP,Senior Analyst & Group Head of Energy Maritime Shipping

  • Okay. And then focusing on your container ship contracts, especially some of the longer-term one. There's been some recent announcements of maybe a reduction in extension of charters. Have you been in talks to some of your counterparties for similar arrangements?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Yes. You are talking about the modification of the charter contract?

  • Randall Giveans - VP,Senior Analyst & Group Head of Energy Maritime Shipping

  • Sure.

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Yes. This is actually -- this is our normal course of business because as you know, that once you enter into a long-term contract, it's a matter of getting paid for the stream of cash flow. Given the nature of the business that we are in, we are constantly actually working with our customers. It depends on their business needs, and therefore, that we're going to develop the solutions with them. However, I think with the -- these payments, the term changes, there's the 2 principles that we're looking at. Number one is that it has to be a win-win situation, meaning it's mutually beneficial for us and also for our customer. The second discipline -- principle that we hold is that these type of modification is not, at any way, to compromise the credit quality, meaning the cash flow qualities. So that being said, we're actually constantly working with our customers in looking at their business needs and modify the contract in a way that what we call less for longer, or more for less.

  • For example, in Q1 2019, we modified a contract where we actually received accelerated payment of $270 million. And right now, I think due to the market conditions, some of the, for example, the liner customers, the demand has changed. But however, they would want to retain Seaspan's services over a longer period of time, and that's why we're going to have this type of opportunity for less for longer. But once again, this less for longer, for us, that we will be able to get a longer-term of guaranteed utilization at the same time, as long as the rate of the charter, and it meets our return requirements. And I think for our customer, they will be able to get what they need in terms of the capacity supply as well as their cash flow management. But once again, there's no circumstances where we compromise the quality of the cash flow.

  • Ryan Courson;Chief Financial Officer

  • And then, Randy, maybe just to follow-on to that. I think when Bing and I joined in 2018, a big point of inquiry from the investment community was whether Seaspan was able to work through renewed extensions across our fleet. And I think if you go back to 2018 and you look at our long-term contracted revenue then versus where we're at now, I think the management team has been really focused on ensuring that, that backlog of contracted cash flow supports not only the liability management program that we have, but the scale of the integrated operating platform that we're participating with. And then if you take a more -- a specific approach to your question for the near term, we've had multiple conversations with customers, nearly every one of the leading global liners on contracts between 5 and up to 18 years over the last several weeks even. And so we feel very confident that these long-term contracts for key supply partners such as Seaspan will continue to exist for the foreseeable future, and we're excited about the opportunity to continue to pursue those.

  • Randall Giveans - VP,Senior Analyst & Group Head of Energy Maritime Shipping

  • Perfect. All right. And then last quick question. In terms of capital allocation, maybe what is the kind of most important priority right now? And how does the current dividend fit into that?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Yes. First of all, the current dividend, we think it's appropriate. And however, myself, and the management team that we regularly evaluate our dividend policy and present our recommendations to our Board for the final decision. Dividend policy is part of our capital allocation in a sense that we constantly evaluate what is the best use of our cash flow. So therefore, for us, I think this is definitely constantly under our evaluation. Now, I think if we're looking at our current stock price relative to the dividend, I think the yield is high. But the way we see that the current situations attribute to maybe 2 aspects. One is that the general economic environment and the other one is, we are still being valued as a capital-intensive and the cyclical business. In reality, I think today, as we continue to demonstrate that the reality of Atlas is this different. Different in the sense that we actually, on one hand, is capital intensive, but we generate a quality risk-adjusted return. In terms of technical, I think that we are able to demonstrate again and again, that through these cycles that we can generate stable and predictable cash flow. So therefore, the reality that has a disconnect and disconnect is something that I think is, we believe, is temporary. And we would also continue because these situation, I think we will continue to focusing on executing and delivering the long-term value. And at the same time, and I think that as the business that we -- on one hand, we provide the transparency and we deliver the results but I think one thing myself and the management team needs to do better, is to better articulate and better present ourselves to the investors market. And we believe that, ultimately, as we create long-term value, the market will recognize that.

  • Ryan Courson;Chief Financial Officer

  • And then, Randy, maybe just to follow-on to that. If you think about kind of near-term capital allocation decisions. I would say it's in line with everything we've communicated in the past. We believe that there's a great value to improving the credit profile of our business with our long-term goal of achieving a corporate investment-grade credit rating. And so as we think about alternatives to deploy capital, there's always value in improving the credit profile. And one of the things that I think that is difficult to see at any given point in time, but by improving the credit profile, it affords us the opportunity to execute on some of these attractive capital allocation initiatives. And so if you go back to some of the information that we disclosed in the earnings presentation you'll see we're able to deploy capital at very attractive rates, but we're able to do that because we've been so relentless on the pursuit of credit profile improvement. And so I think that you'll continue to see us focused on quality growth, but it will also be with the vein of improving the credit profile because we think that both of those things go hand-in-hand.

  • Operator

  • Our next question comes from Ken Hoexter with Bank of America.

  • Kenneth Scott Hoexter - MD and Co-Head of the Industrials

  • Great. And I'll echo Ben's comments on thank you very much for the additional information. Maybe, Bing, if you could provide more color on the current market for vessel acquisitions. Is it -- were these willing sellers? Was this from the container ship liner companies? Maybe you could talk a bit about the market for acquisitions?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Yes, ken. For these acquisitions, once again, none of this acquisition is through any kind of auction process, rather it's a proprietary opportunities. I think it's a mixed of the opportunities either coming from other -- the vessel owners or coming from the liners for a variety of different reasons where I think that we were able to structure in such a transaction where the liners that would value our service and want to give us a long-term contract, so that is the -- basically the way we construct these type of growth opportunity. In a way, first of all, we have to evaluate the type of assets. We want to make sure these are the good assets. They are young, they're large assets, they're fuel efficient. And so therefore, these are good assets with the demand and also with a good residual value because we are managing the assets. And then on the back end of it, we need to look at these assets. We never buy any assets on a speculation basis, we only buy the assets when the customer actually need it and they want to sign a long-term contract with us. And so these are the type of the opportunities that we will be able to work with the seller and also with our customer. And therefore, that we will be able to create these type of attractive opportunities where, again, it's a win-win situation in the sense that we will be able to provide our services, meanwhile building up our scale and the flexibility and quality from a customer side. They enjoy our quality, reliability and the scale services and that's something we see. As we mentioned earlier, as the liners continue to focus in their end of the services, they demanding the quality solution provider of the tonnage provider. It's not a vessel, rather, it's a platform, it's a solution. It's a service.

  • Kenneth Scott Hoexter - MD and Co-Head of the Industrials

  • Great. And then I guess I'm going to step back and ask a bigger picture question. But we've heard a lot about the move from globalization to localization and supply chains. Just want to know how you think about this in terms of your exposure on the containership side and your thought on long-term revenue impacts, if any?

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • Yes. Thank you. That's a good question. The way -- I mean, globalization, despite all these political discussions, I think the globalization will continue because, ultimately, I think consumers or businesses will be looking at the cost, and that's one thing. The other thing is the globalization. If you're looking at it from a supply chain standpoint, and I think that the supply chain system has been built over the years with serious capital investment over the time. So even though you want to have this localization, I think number one, it requires additional capital. Number two, you would need to take time to build a new supply chain. So therefore, I think the globalization definitely is a trend. Now however, is that going to grow as what the globalization has been growing for the kind of speed in the coming years. I think that is going to be slowing down. And I think your question is probably more alert to in terms of global trade. I think the global trade will definitely will continue. And I think that, that just is something I don't think the politics will be able to stop it. Because once again, you do have to take into consideration of the reality versus the political agenda. So in general, we are cautiously optimistic in terms of the continued -- the growth of the globalization and also the global trade. Now the case important, for example, I mean, even up to this point with the COVID, this is not because of the human, rather it's a natural limitations of this trade. And I think you see the very quick rebound of the global trade. And if you're looking at last year, with the trade war, and I think still, if you're looking at the industry as a whole. And I think our business actually had a record year last year, utilization wise. So therefore, I think from specifically the impact to the container shipping business to today, I believe that the impact's minimal. And if and then will be any impact that's going to take longer time. And this is not something I think we believe that we'll have the material impact to the industry, particularly for the long-term culture, we try to secure.

  • Kenneth Scott Hoexter - MD and Co-Head of the Industrials

  • Great points, Bing. I appreciate that insight. Last one for me is just a really simple one, I guess, I don't know, maybe, Ryan. Is there any thought from the cornerstone investors to make the stock more liquid, I think the float is only 30% now and obviously, that might be a constraint on some larger investors' ability to move in and out of the stock. So any thoughts to that process?

  • David L. Sokol - Independent Director

  • This is David. Perhaps I should take this question as Chair. I don't see us increasing the liquidity at this point. I mean I think we -- I think both the Fairfax Financial as well as the Washington family are happy with their investment, and I don't see them selling shares. And in fact, I think, consistent with the prior question regarding capital allocation. Again, depending on where the stock is and where our capital availability is at any given time. I think we're probably more likely to be buying shares than issuing shares, at least under the current environment that I would see. And I would think that potential share repurchase would be more likely today than a dividend shift but again, those are all speculative. I think at this point, through this COVID situation, maintaining our capital and continuing to grow the business is going to be the priority in dealing with either share purchases or dividend changes would probably be well into the future after COVID is behind us. The only other comment I'd make is, obviously, if there was an acquisition where we felt we were getting more for the stock than the stock current value, we would certainly consider using stock as an acquisition tool. Depending on the acquisition, that may or may not increase liquidity. But -- so I think having said all that, the short answer is, I think there are -- shares outstanding are not likely to shift a lot in the near future.

  • Operator

  • And I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to Bing Chen, President and CEO of Atlas for any closing remarks.

  • Bing Chen;Chairman, President, CEO

  • So thank you all very much for taking the time to join our call. I appreciate your time and your questions, and I wish everyone stay safe and healthy. We look forward to speaking to you soon. Thank you all, very much.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation on today's conference. This does conclude your program, and you may now disconnect.