Alpha Metallurgical Resources Inc (AMR) 2021 Q3 法說會逐字稿

Hello, and welcome to the Alpha Metallurgical Resources Third Quarter 2021 Results Conference Call. My name is Alex, and I will be coordinating the call today. (Operator Instructions)

I will now hand over to your host, Emily O'Quinn, SVP of Corporate Communications to begin. Over to you, Emily.

Thank you, Alex, and good morning, everyone. Before we get started, let me remind you that during our prepared remarks and the Q&A period, our comments regarding anticipated business and financial performance contain forward-looking statements, and actual results may differ materially from those discussed. For more information regarding forward-looking statements and some of the factors that can affect them, please refer to the company's third quarter 2021 earnings release and the associated SEC filings, GAAP measures, and their reconciliation to GAAP measures.

Participating on the call today are Alpha's Chair and Chief Executive Officer, David Stetson; and President and Chief Financial Officer, Andy Eidson. Also participating on the call are Jason Whitehead, our Chief Operating Officer; and Dan Horn, Executive Vice President of Sales. With that, I'll turn the call over to David.

Thanks, Emily. Good morning to everyone, and thank you for joining us. We're excited to discuss additional details about Alpha's third quarter performance with you today. As usual, I'll let the rest of the team provide their detailed thoughts on the results. But there are a couple of points I want to highlight with additional context. The first is the 134% increase in sales realizations quarter-over-quarter on our business tied to Australian indices. Beyond being an outstanding accomplishment by Dan and his entire sales team, this figure is also a reminder of Alpha's commitment to our customers, both in good times and those like earlier this year, when unique circumstances were much more challenging. That's because we deeply value our customers and make good on our commitments.

As much as we've talked about the Australian indices on prior call, I'm especially pleased to report this positive shift. Another important detail to highlight is the fact that we nearly tripled gross revenues quarter-over-quarter on our net sales. This is a further testament to the robust market dynamics and our team's diligence in mining and selling our coal for an attractive price. An area where I'm especially proud of our progress is on our debt and legacy reduction. Our total long-term debt and legacy obligations were reduced in the third quarter by over $75 million. If you listen to our prior earnings calls, you know that I've been steadfast in my assertion that deleveraging the company is critically important to Alpha's longevity, and therefore, debt reduction should be our first priority for excess cash. Thanks in large part to Andy's excellent work in executing these various prepayments and repurchase, we ended the quarter with roughly $500 million in long-term debt.

We intend to continue this forward momentum in the coming months because it not only creates value for our shareholders, but it also represents more autonomy for our company, allowing us to be less dependent upon the increasingly expensive and exclusive capital markets.

As we decrease our debt load, I believe Alpha becomes a stronger and more self-sufficient and better capable and weather the cycles we have ahead in this industry. This serves us well both in the near-term and as we look several years ahead. Speaking of looking ahead, today, we're providing '22 guidance to shed some additional light on our expectations for the next year and our plans to invest in Alpha's future. You'll see in our guidance a range of $160 million to $190 million for '22 capital expenditures. Jason will outline our anticipated CapEx in more detail, but this figure broadly includes, at the midpoint of roughly $120 million of maintenance spending and $55 million in project-specific investments to strategically expand, improve or streamline operations at our existing portfolio facilities. Similar to the fourth section at Road Fork 52 that we announced last quarter, these projects were rigorously selected based on their expected quick return on a modest capital investment, coupled with anticipated long-term benefit to the company.

I'm excited about each of these projects individually. And -- but taken together, I believe these projects will provide additional portfolio depth and flexibility that we can leverage for years to come. As anyone who has watched the coal industry over the last couple of decades or so can attest, this is a cyclical business that can experience dramatic highs and lows. While we are undoubtedly experiencing a period of market strength right now, conditions can change rapidly. Just as when the market is poor, we want to be prepared to act quickly to take advantage of improved pricing, and we similarly want to be clear headed and ready to adjust any potential drop the market from today's very positive conditions. This is the kind of long-term thinking that informs our capital allocation strategies. And it's why we plan to continue making prudent and responsible use of our free cash flow we generate, paying down debt and legacy liabilities and investing in the future of our operations. With that, I will turn the call over to Jason to discuss our operational results and details of the planned enhancements to our mining portfolio.

Thanks, Dave. Good morning, everyone. Our operations team turned in another solid quarter of performance, overcoming several unique challenges in the period, including continued inflationary pressure that has resulted in increased costs for certain materials. This, together with increased labor costs and higher royalties and taxes due to higher sales prices resulted in elevated coal sales for the quarter. With these factors expected to continue, at least for the near term, we're increasing our 2021 Met segment cost of coal sales guidance to a range of $73 to $77 per ton. The 2022 guidance range of $88 to $92 issued today also reflects our go-forward expectations for cost.

Despite these factors outside of our control, I'm proud of the operation team across the organization for remaining focused and committed to cost containment and managing the costs that we can directly influence. Last quarter, I spoke about our decision to add a fourth section at our Road Fork 52 mine to increase our output of low-vol Met coal at a modest capital cost with an expected payback in a matter of 6 months or less. Development progressed on this additional section ahead of schedule during the quarter, which allowed us to begin producing in mid-October.

As David mentioned earlier, in connection with our issuance of 2022 CapEx guidance, we're announcing several planned projects designed to provide optionality and increased efficiency for Alpha, both in the near-term and for many years to come. In addition to having attractive expectations for return on invested capital, each of these projects should provide immediate value upon our completion, while also yielding longer-term benefits to the organization. This project list includes development of 2 new mines in West Virginia, Cedar Grove No. 3 mine and the Glen Alum mine as well as adding a fourth section at our new Lynn Branch mine.

Cedar Grove No. 3, which is not expected to begin production until 2023, will serve as a replacement mine for the high-vol coal we're currently mining from Cedar Grove No. 2. We expect this 2023 transition to continue the low-cost and efficient performance of our Bandmill Complex. Glen Alum is a new mine plant as replacement tonnage for our depleting Horse Creek Eagle mine. Glen Alum is a higher rank and is an excellent mid-vol coking coal. We're currently expected to complete development of Glen Alum within the coming year and first production anticipated from the mine in the latter part of 2022. This coal will report into the Marfork preparation plant.

And finally, bringing on a fourth section at Lynn Branch is a similar calculation to our successful expansion of Road Fork 52 with the fourth section. This can be done economically, and it affords us the ability to bring an additional 400,000 high-vol tons online per year very quickly. If today's market environment holds, once commissioned, this project's payback in less than 2 quarters. I expect the fourth section to start in the first quarter of 2022. In addition to these mine projects, our 2022 CapEx is also focused on upgrading and modernizing a couple of our prep plant facilities. While very productive, these plants rely on aging equipment that, in many cases, would have installed many years ago to handle different coal qualities than what we're currently handling. By investing in some modest yet important upgrades at our Marfork and Kepler plants, we'll be able to realize higher recovery levels and greater organic efficiencies, which we expect to quickly yield positive return for the invested capital.

At Kepler, for example, which was built in 1968, we will update the fine coal circuitry to better accommodate the high-quality coals we're sending through the facility. Plans also include enhancements to the existing transportation infrastructure and the construction of a truck loading facility on site. These upgrades align nicely with the investment we've already made in Road Fork 52, providing a more complementary setup to handle the 25 years of anticipated reserve life in that low-cost operation.

Turning to Marfork, which was built in the mid-'90s, we plan to similarly invest in upgrades to better accommodate the higher quality coals that we're moving to that facility. Plans include increasing preparation capacity to the fine coal plant circuitry. Upgrades are also planned on the clean coal side of the Marfork plant. These upgrades will afford us better quality segregation to optimize shipments and make it possible to handle and distribute mid-vol coal and Marfork flow down.

Together, along with some strategic equipment purchases planned for next year, we believe these special projects and upgrades will lengthen the runway for safe, efficient production and preparation of Alpha coals well into the future. We look forward to sharing our progress as appropriate on future earnings calls. I will now turn the call over to Andy for some additional details on our financials for the quarter.

Thanks, Jason. As we reported in our release this morning, our third quarter adjusted EBITDA was $148.2 million, nearly quadrupling our second quarter adjustment of $39.9 million. Alpha sold a total of 4.7 million tons for the third quarter with our Met segment volume of 4.4 million tons, representing an increase of nearly 20% quarter-over-quarter. Our most significant area of increased results is in our realizations, which drove gross net margins of $36.90, which tripled nearly -- or nearly tripled quarter-over-quarter. Our export business linked to the Australian indices yielded realizations of just under $159 for the quarter, while we realized $125.44 per ton on our export business that was based on the Atlantic indices and other pricing mechanisms. For the Met segment as a whole, our realizations came in at $113.51 per ton, which is an increase of 36% from the second quarter, while realizations increased slightly within the allover category to $62.43 per ton.

As you would expect in a pricing environment like this one, our Q3 Met segment cost of coal sales increased to $76.62 per ton, and in all our other categories, cost of coal sales rose to $47.47 in Q3. With increased labor costs we discussed on our last quarterly call, combined with increased materials cost due to inflationary pressures and higher sales prices that require larger royalties and severance taxes, we expect higher cost to be part of the equation for as long as the current market holds. That's -- it's a good problem to have at this point in the market. SG&A, excluding noncash stock comp and nonrecurring items increased from $13.3 million to $14.1 million in the third quarter. Our Q3 CapEx was $22.3 million, up from a second quarter level of $17.6 million, but still in line with our increased guidance range for the year.

Looking at the balance sheet and our cash flows, Alpha closed the third quarter with nearly 40% more in total liquidity as compared to the end of the second quarter. We ended Q3 with approximately $78 million in unrestricted cash. And keep in mind, this is net of the $75 million utilized to reduce our long-term debt and legacy obligations. And also, we had $105 million of unused availability on our ABL for total liquidity of $183 million. Cash provided by operating activities for the quarter was $96 million. And I'd like to remind everyone during the -- a lot of our export sales have payment terms between 75 and 90 days. So the cash receipts in the third quarter are not completely reflective of the increased revenue that we're reporting. It's also worth noting that our accounts receivable balance increased quarter-over-quarter by approximately $130 million. So that's where a lot of that value is currently being captured. We'll convert to cash in the near future.

At the end of this quarter, the ABL facility had $120 million of LCs outstanding and no borrowings. With the maturity date on the ABL coming up early in next year, we've been actively pursuing a refinance or an amend and extend. We're nearing the final stages of that process, and I expect that we'll finalize the refi in the coming weeks. We expect the size of the new facility to be reduced with total capacity estimated to probably be right around $150 million. The new facility will more than cover our existing LC requirements and also provide some undrawn borrowing capacity. Looking at our committed and pricing business for the current year against the midpoint of guidance, our Met segment is almost fully committed in price or 96%, at least, for the year at an average price of $105.45. The thermal byproduct portion of the Met segment is 98% committed and priced at an average of $55.76. We're 90% committed and priced for '21 in our All Other category at an average price of $58.33.

And it's also worth noting that looking at our guidance for Met sales -- Met product in the Met segment sales, there could be some upside. Just again, when you get closer to the end of the year, there could be some timing on shipping schedules where we could have some cargoes scheduled for Q1 that might slip into Q4. So we'll be on the lookout for that. As you saw in our release this morning, we issued guidance with our 2022 expectations.

We expect to ship a total of 15.4 million to 17 million tons in 2022, consisting of 14 million to 15 million tons of pure Met and 800,000 to 1.2 million tons of incidental thermal within the Met segment. For the All Other category, we're guiding to 600,000 to 800,000 tons. Based on the midpoint of Met segment guidance, the Met only portion is 28% committed and priced at an average of $195.43, with an additional 23% committed without firm pricing. The thermal portion of the Met segment is 88% committed and priced at an average of $51.56. And in the All Other category, we're committed -- 89% committed and priced at $56.49. On the cost side, we expect our '22 Met segment cost per ton to be in the range of $88 and $62 per ton.

Nearly half of the expected increase to Met cost of coal sales is higher due to higher royalties and severance taxes, while labor and supplies and inflation does account for approximately 25% each of the increase. SG&A, excluding noncash stock comp and onetime items is forecast to be in the range of $50 million to $54 million for '22. As Jason mentioned earlier, we're issuing an important increase in our CapEx guidance for next year at a range of $160 million to $190 million. At the midpoint, this breaks down to roughly $120 million in maintenance CapEx and approximately $55 million for raw group for special projects designed to modernize and augment our operational capabilities. And that also includes the new mines at Cedar Grove No. 3, Glen Alum and the fourth section at Lynn Branch. Idle operations expenses are expected to be between 30 and $40 million for the year. And cash interest expense for 2022 is projected to be in the range of $40 million to $45 million, while DD&A is expected to be in a range of $90 million to $110 million.

Finally, the cash tax rate is expected to be between 5% and 15%. I do want to draw your attention to a new slide in our investor presentation. That outlines some additional details on our NOLs available for utilization as well as certain limitations on their usage. Some of those limitations being tied to 3, 2 ownership change issues. With the markets where they are, I think it's really important to give as much granularity as possible to the market around our potential cash tax exposure and the pieces that make up our expected tax rate. As you can see from our guidance and David's discussion of debt reduction at the start of the call, we've been pretty resolute and steadfast on our previously outlined cash allocation strategy. In the third quarter, we reduced Alpha's long-term debt and legacy obligations by over $75 million. This included $6.6 million in scheduled long-term principal payments for the quarter as well as a voluntary prepayment of $31 million in principal on the term loan.

Additionally, we repurchased at a discount roughly $18.7 million in outstanding principal borrowings. As previously announced, we made a $21 million payment in July to extinguish 1 year ahead of schedule, the reclamation funding obligations with the West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection. We also negotiated a return of $15 million in related surety collateral, which meant the early payment also allowed us to extinguish its liability at a lower net cash outflow than we previously expected.

Along similar lines, subsequent to the end of the third quarter, Alpha made an early payment of $4 million to West Virginia DEP to eliminate the legacy obligations related to water treatment. In addition to this payment to West Virginia, all leans against certain real estate and other assets, securing those obligations were released. Alpha made another payment of $3.3 million to eliminate the remaining Kentucky reclamation funding the water treatment legacy obligations. And we've also repurchased a small amount of our contingent revenue rights, reducing that legacy obligation as well.

So in total, over the past 4 months, we've extinguished approximately $85 million in debt and legacy obligations for around $70 million of cash payments. So that's about a 17% discount over face amounts, and we're pretty excited about that. Alongside our efforts to reduce our debt and legacy liabilities, we've actively worked to improve our bonding exposure across the organization. Year-to-date, we've achieved a net bond reduction of over $175 million, which represents a 50% reduction year-over-year. These figures do include the Cumberland divestiture. But even if those associated bonds are excluded from the total, alpha still had a net reduction in outstanding bonds of more than $40 million for the year-to-date period.

We do plan to continue deleveraging the enterprise through actions like this because it reduces our reliance on external third parties, and it allows us to exert more control over our future. The capital investment, as Jason outlined earlier, is also a key driver both on the longevity and efficiency of our infrastructure, which we believe will translate into an even stronger company that's built for long-term success. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dan Horn for market analysis and an update on the 2022 domestic sales negotiations.

Thanks, Andy, and good morning. To start off with a look at the most recent market dynamics globally, the latest World Steel Association crude steel production statistics show an 8.9% decline in the year-over-year total production for September. China's September production was 21.2% lower than in September of 2020. However, in Brazil, production increased 15.3%, and India showed an increase of 7.2% for the year-over-year period. Regionally, North American and European crude steel production increased 19.2% and 15.6%, respectively, against the year ago period. The year-to-date U.S. steel mill capacity utilization rate here is 81.3% through mid-October, with the metric recently reaching a multiyear high at 85%.

This is encouraging and something we keep an eye on as we survey the market landscape. We're all aware that COVID disease have increased significantly over the course of the third quarter. For example, on July 1 the U.S. East Coast highwall A Index was at $1.93 per metric ton and rose to $377 per metric ton on September 30. The U.S. East Coast low-vol index followed a similar path, moving from $217 a metric ton at the start of the quarter to $412 per metric ton at quarter close.

The early year volatility in the seaborne metallurgical coal market began to subside in the second quarter with a more traditional equilibrium between Australian and Atlantic indices continuing into the third quarter. Despite China's continued ban on Australian coal imports, the Australian premium low-vol index more than doubled in the third quarter from $190 a metric ton on July 1, up to $401 per metric ton on September 30. This yielded much higher realizations for our Aussie link tons during the quarter, further confirming the importance of our decision to continue delivering on our customer commitments throughout this brief period of lower pricing. While the trade tensions between China and Australia have not yet been resolved, this has created opportunities for other producers to fulfill China's need for high-quality coking coal, and Alpha's products have been well received there. Year-to-date, including business that has been agreed upon but not yet shipped, Alpha has sold approximately 1.9 million tons of metallurgical coal into China for the 2021 calendar year.

While there's no way to know when circumstances may change between China and Australia, we have been pleased to expand our customer base this year, and we hope to continue cultivating relationships that could develop into long-term contracts in the future. We are also strategically expanding our marketing efforts into several regions of Asia through a third-party marketing agreement in order to grow Alpha's metallurgical coal sales into Asia.

Now for a word about our 2022 commitments. As you know, this is a busy time of year for the sales team, and I'm proud of the outstanding work from all of my team members over the last 3 months. The third quarter was another solid period for us with increased realizations on sales in the quarter, alongside a tremendous amount of work to set up Alpha for success in 2022. I'm pleased to report that we have secured commitments for roughly 3.7 million tons of coal at annual fixed price terms with domestic customers and another nearly 400,000 tons for export, also at fixed pricing.

There are still a few ongoing conversations with customers that have not -- that have the potential to result in additional committed business for next year. But even with where we are today, we like our position for next year, and it affords us the flexibility to capitalize on further export market opportunities, which remain at lucrative levels. However, given the volatility in this industry, our committed and price tons for next year can be considered an excellent hedge. Since we know we have found a home for just over 4 million tons of our coking coal for 2022 at an average price of $195.43. Though we do our best to analyze market signals, none of us can truly know what lies around the bend. Therefore, we continue to work hard, run our operations safely and responsibly and stay close to our customers. This concludes our prepared remarks for the quarter. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

(Operator Instructions) Our first question today comes from Lucas Pipes from B. Riley Securities.

First, Dan, somebody asked me to ask you how it feels to be selling coal at these levels. But all joking aside, when we look out to 2022, very strong sales book to date, do you expect to layer in additional fixed-price contracts here? Or would you say the fixed price season is concluded at this time.

Thanks, Lucas. Appreciate the question. I do -- there's still opportunities out there for some fixed pricing. The domestic market is not 100% settled yet, and we're absolutely still seeing demand in the next several months from our other markets, whether it's India, Brazil, Europe. So there's absolutely opportunities to layer in more fixed pricing, whether it's short-term or spot medium term, there's just a lot of opportunities.

Okay. Do you have a -- can you share where you kind of expect to end up in a fixed price basis for 2022, call it at the end of this year, 50%, 40%, what would be your guess?

Yes. I don't have that number handy, Lucas, you mean on the overall book?

Yes. On the Met coal book, yes.

Yes, Lucas, this is David. We're in the high 20s. We're opportunistic if we see opportunities that we like on the domestic front or a fixed price front, we'll seize it. If not, we're very comfortable where we stand today from a mix of domestic fix versus international. So we feel very comfortable where we are right now.

And then my second question is on the capital structure balance sheet side. You highlighted a number of times in your prepared comments how debt reduction liability reduction is a priority. And given the visibility you have today with strong sales book pricing is today, do you have -- can you share with the market when you would expect to be net debt zero? Is that a target? Is that a goal you're working towards? And again, like when would you expect to get there? Thank you very much for your perspective on that.

Well, I'm not going to give a specific timeline on that because that takes us beyond what we normally disclose. I can tell you that I stand by my comments I made. I'm steadfast, in the fact that we will use free cash flow to reduce our indebtedness, and that is where my priorities are. So everybody can run their models and figure that out on their own. My goal has not altered at all. We're paying down our debt, building a robust cash balance to take care of ourselves if any kind of downturn occurs in the market, be able to fund our own capital projects in the future, invest in our future. That's my focus, 100% focused at this point in time, Lucas.

Our next question comes from Nathan Martin from the benchmark Company.

Congrats on the quarter and continuing to work with those debt levels out.

Thanks, Nate.

I wanted to start on the cost side, as I guess I've been doing on most calls this quarter. Totally understand, obviously, inflationary pressures, as everyone's seeing in the market sales-related costs. Obviously, that's a good problem to have. Also, I really appreciate the slide you guys put in your deck kind of bridging the guidance from '21 to '22 because I think that implied 20% or so increase is probably higher than what most investors were expecting. But I was hoping maybe you could dissect just a little bit more with the $7 increase you have on the slide and sales related costs, maybe what net price are you guys assuming with that? And how about maybe rail rates as well? And then with the $5 increase in labor and benefits, is some of that temporary? Or is it more structural? Andy, I think you said that those levels are kind of expected to remain high in the price environment. So just any color on there.

Nate, it's Andy. Yes, the -- I think what we typically try to do, and I think either you or Lucas have asked this question for a couple of years, and I want to try to maintain the same answer every time. We're pretty well informed by what the futures are for the Met pricing. So we may not adopt the exact same numbers, but we do try to adopt the same kind of curve. And of course, with the backward aided curve, we're looking at something pretty close to what futures are for trading or indicating right now. We do tend to -- as always, we tend to be a little bit more conservative. So we look for -- at least for internal purposes, we'd like to pull those numbers back a little bit. But our curve isn’t terribly dissimilar from the futures curve as far as pricing, that drives the sales price-related cost.

On the labor side, yes, that -- look, there's -- Jason can answer this way better than I can, but there's a real labor concern, a labor issue in Central Appalachian. We don't want to be delusional and pretend that it doesn't exist. So we want to be very transparent that it exists. And we're all -- I mean, we are all having to deal with it, and it will be a continued cost pressure, whether it's competition for labor in this hot market or whether it's just generally a shrinking labor pool for folks leaving the industry and finding other things to do.

So we want to recognize our employees. We want to recognize our monitors. They do a fantastic job. We want to make sure they're very well compensated. And in times like these, we're actually happy to give a bump here and there just to recognize and let them feel some appreciation where we can afford to spend the money to support them. And we got -- we not just invest in Capex, we invest in our people, too, and this is really important to us. So everyone likes to keep costs low, but this is one of those points in time where the cost has crept on us. And for the most part, it's -- these aren't necessarily controllable costs because these are things we have to do to make sure the coal continues to be mined.

Great. And then just any comment on the rail rates, is that part of that $7 sales-related cost increase too, I would assume?

No, no. That cost happens, and that's captured in our netback realization numbers, not in the cost. But still (inaudible) too much about rail stuff anyway.

Okay. Perfect. And then maybe kind of going over to the new projects you guys have announced, are they expected to change the cost structure much? I guess I see from your table, Cedar Grove No. 3 replacement and the Glen Alum kind of replacement tons there as well. How many tons of production maybe could we expect from those lines once they're up and running? And how does that really change the overall net mix, if at all?

Nate, this is Jason. I guess I'll start with Cedar Grove 3, which is basically just -- it's 100% sustaining. So we have a depleting mine. Basically, the same quality, the same geology with the same expected output. So that's just kind of a push. The fourth section at Lynn Branch, we should expect up to 400,000 tons a year of incremental production. On top of where we are today, with very similar to maybe slightly decreased cost structure for incremental tons as you normally hold them on. And then the last one, the Glen Alum mine, which won't come into full production until the very end of next year. It's also a replacement mine, but it's kind of replacement plus because it is a significant improvement to quality there to Marfork complex. But if you look at incremental overall tonnage increase, it would just be the Lynn Branch fourth section.

Perfect. Appreciate that, Jason. And then just maybe one more for now. Strong shipments, obviously, guys, in the third quarter. Congrats on that, it's like well above entry production. Is that driven by some inventory sales there or maybe even any purchases? And then if we kind of look at the fourth quarter, I had a client ask me already, even if we assume the high end of guidance implication in sales will definitely be down. Maybe you can just talk about that expectation a little bit.

Yes, Nate. So I'll let Dan fill in the gaps, if I leave anything out here. Addressing the guidance question. So that's kind of what I was kind of hinting at, talking about the fact when you get it to year end, there's a chance that you could have some -- and it can happen in either direction, you can have some cargoes slip into Q1 out of Q4 or vice versa, pull some cargoes a little bit ahead. I think it feels like with the market being where it is, there's probably a higher likelihood that we'd pull some in from Q4 or Q1 into Q4. So we could actually get above our guidance and be on the comfortably at the higher end. But that's -- again, that's really more tied to shipping schedules and how supply chain is holding up and how the force doing things like that. So it feels like we're probably going to skirt closer to the higher end, but we didn't want to go so far as to change guidance on that piece.

Got it. It's positive. I think one of our competitors said that we're expecting maybe sometimes it could slip from 4Q to 1Q. So that's good. It sounds like logistics might be going a little bit better-for-you guys. So very helpful. Best of luck in the fourth quarter.

Thanks, Nate.

(Operator Instructions) Our next question comes from Lucas Pipes from B. Riley Securities.

My follow-up question. I wanted to ask about the modernization Capex, and you may have touched on this in your prepared remarks. But is this part of sustaining capital or growth Capex?

Lucas, this is Jason. And you're talking about the preparation plant upgrades that we mentioned today.

That is correct.

Yes. So it's both. So it's about replacing tired equipment with newer, more efficient equipment. But in both cases, at Kepler and Marfork, we are expecting higher coal recoveries from the raw coal. So there is an incremental tonnage gain by completing both of these projects.

Got it. And what sort of magnitude are we talking about for...

The order of magnitude, both combined, about 150,000, 160,000 tons a year.

Okay. And in terms of dollars, capital dollars?

Yes, we have -- I think we've indicated approximately $120 million of maintenance CapEx of $40 million to $50 million of capital projects that Jason was outlining earlier.

Okay. I was curious about this. It seems like a low-hanging fruit. So I appreciate, these additional comments. And then my second follow-up question is in regards to commercial strategy as it relates to Asia. I may have missed the details, but did you comment on additional third-party partnerships for marketing coal in Asia? And if so, what scope does that partnership have?

Yes, Lucas, I'm not really prepared to comment more on what we've said. We're -- Alpha will continue to sell our coal into the markets where we have long-standing relationships in Asia, including India and China, but some of the other Asian markets, we're excited to announce a partnership, but I don't have any other color to give you on that at the moment.

Okay. I appreciate that. And then another follow-up question. You have -- you're adding incremental production here, obviously, terrific to see that in this market environment. And I wondered kind of with this fit in with your average cost structure, are you looking to lower your average cost with, for example, the 150,000 tons of additional recoveries from the prep plants, that should have very low-cost to it. So to kind of -- obviously, there are these -- there are a few moving pieces here on the cost side. You're adding production. You have the sales related costs. There are the inflationary pressures. But if you kind of were to tease out the cost of the incremental tons, where would they shake out relative to your legacy cost structure?

Lucas, this is Jason again. So I guess, first, the $50 million of efficiency or improvement CapEx that David spoke to. Not all of that are in these preparation plant upgrades, yielding 160,000 tons a year. But to your point, yes, 160,000 tons. Once these projects are commissioned, our ultra-low-cost but it's not material enough to move the guidance across 15 million tons.

Yes. And we -- as we've always maintained, we had developed a business model, we developed operational practices that do give us flexibility to ramp up and ramp down as the markets dictate. These markets today, as positive as they are. We're taking every advantage to meet those demands. But at the same time, as Jason has indicated on the projects he's brought forth to us on the facilities, they'll make us more efficient, not only now to take advantage of these markets, but more importantly, as the markets begin to fall into a normalized area we'll be much more efficient as an organization as a result of this capital we're spending on our various facilities. So we're excited about it. We do not look at those from a perspective of our cost, but rather meeting the long-term investment in our future here.

Yes, that's kind of what I was getting at. So I really appreciate the color and again, best of luck.

Our next question comes from Matt Russell from Hudson Bay.

On the $400,000 of net export business that's contracted for next year, is that just like a normal cadence of shipments? Or do you have customers there that are actually doing term business?

That's actually some of both that there's some fixed -- some near -- let's call it, medium-term deals in there, and there's some that's got a, let's call it, a full year cadence. So a little bit of both.

Got it. And then if I look at the cost of sales bridge from the slide deck, the $7 that's sales related. If I just -- like should I just apply sort of your historical royalty rate and assume that, that means your price deck has, call it, plus $100, plus $120 of sales realization delta year-over-year?

Well, that's one way to do it, Matt. I mean it doesn't account for -- because there are different royalty rates, and they have shifted a bit as we've moved to new mines. Pretty significantly over the past 3 years, particularly moving into Black Eagle Road 452 and Lynn Branch. So that's probably a decent proxy. But again, it's not going to be terribly because like I said, what we try to start with is the futures curve. And then we -- for our purpose, we'll dial it back just a little bit for conservatism, but I don't think what you're saying is terribly crazy.

That concludes today's Q&A session. I will now hand back over to David Stetson for any closing remarks. David, over to you.

Thanks. I want to thank the entire Alpha team for an excellent quarter. It's been a phenomenal time, and we look forward to the future quarters as well. As usual, I'd like to direct everyone's attention to the Investors section of our web page, where you'll find an updated investor presentation that accompany our call today. In closing, I want to reiterate our -- how pleased I am with the team's performance in Q3. It's truly an outstanding quarter and executing on our vision to advance the goals of our organization. We plan to keep up the good work and look forward to providing an update on Alpha's full year 2021 performance during our next earnings call. I want to thank everyone who joined us today on this call and for your interest in Alpha metallurgical Resources. Have a great rest of your day and your weekend.

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