美國安進 (AMGN) 2018 Q2 法說會逐字稿

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  • Operator

  • My name is Ian, and I will be your conference facilitator today for Amgen's Second Quarter 2018 Financial Results Conference Call.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • I would now like to introduce Arvind Sood, Vice President of Investor Relations.

  • You may now begin.

  • Arvind Sood - VP of IR

  • Thanks, Ian.

  • Good afternoon, everybody.

  • Thanks for taking the time to participate in our Second Quarter Results Conference Call today.

  • We realize it's a very busy day with a number of companies reporting, but unfortunately, we are going to add to your already long day as we have a lot to discuss today.

  • Our Chairman and CEO, Bob Bradway will open up the discussion today with an overview of our business, the environment we operate in and management succession.

  • Our CFO, David Meline, will then review our financial results for the second quarter in some detail and provide updated guidance for 2018.

  • Tony Hooper, who leads our global commercial operations, will give you an update on how our products are performing, particularly those that have been launched recently.

  • And then our Head of R&D, Sean Harper, will provide a pipeline update.

  • We will use slides to guide our discussion today and a link to these slides were sent separately.

  • My customary reminder that we will use non-GAAP financial measures in today's presentation and some of the statements will be forward-looking statements.

  • Our 10-K and subsequent filings identify factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially.

  • So with that, I would like to turn the call over to Bob.

  • But before I do, I would like to find a fun fact for the day.

  • The crossword puzzle in the New York Times today, 30 down, the answer is Amgen.

  • So with that, Bob, over to you.

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Okay, thank you.

  • And good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the call.

  • On today's call, I'll provide an overview of our second quarter performance, share some thoughts on the rapidly changing U.S. healthcare environment, and, of course, comment on the succession plans that we announced earlier today for 2 senior leaders you know very well, Sean Harper and Tony Hooper.

  • First, our performance.

  • Our second quarter results demonstrate that we continue to execute effectively our long-term growth strategy as we delivered 4% top line growth and 17% growth in non-GAAP earnings per share.

  • An important part of our strategy is to increasingly focus on volume-driven growth and our results reflect the progress that we're making on that objective.

  • Unit volumes increased, in many cases, by double digits, for all our newer products including Repatha, KYPROLIS, Prolia and XGEVA.

  • We also continue to generate strong volume-driven growth outside the U.S. where our legacy brands have faced competition now for many years.

  • This includes 9% growth in the second quarter.

  • We remain confident that our newer product launches, as well as the medicines advancing through our pipeline, will enable us to drive attractive volume-driven growth globally over the long-term.

  • Let me give you a few examples of some of the newer medicines that we are seeing driving our growth.

  • In the second quarter, we launched Aimovig in the U.S., where it is the first and only CGRP inhibitor approved for migraine prevention.

  • Aimovig also marks Amgen's first entry into a new therapeutic area for us, which is neuroscience.

  • We've been very encouraged by the enthusiastic reception for Aimovig from physicians and especially from migraine patients, who've waited a long time for a new treatment option like this.

  • We are also encouraged by the progress we are making with Repatha, which we believe can play an important role in the fight against cardiovascular disease, the world's #1 killer.

  • As you know, Repatha significantly lowers LDL cholesterol, which is a leading modifiable risk factor for cardiovascular disease.

  • We have and will continue to work to expand access to Repatha globally.

  • Building on our decades of leadership in nephrology, we are seeing strong early adoption of Parsabiv, which is the first new treatment in more than a decade for secondary hyperparathyroidism in patients on hemodialysis.

  • And now I'll say I'm pleased to report that we recently launched our first biosimilar, KANJINTI, which is a biosimilar to Herceptin in Europe.

  • We put a strategic stake in the ground a few years ago to build a world-class biosimilars business, and we continue to believe that biosimilars represent a meaningful growth opportunity for us.

  • We look forward to launching AMGEVITA, which is our biosimilar to HUMIRA, internationally later this year and to launching a steady stream of biosimilars in the years to come.

  • My comments on biosimilars provide a good transition to a discussion of the healthcare environment in the U.S. If you'll note, just this past week, the FDA published its Biosimilars Action Plan.

  • We're encouraged by the FDA's actions as well as by others in the Trump administration and we welcome the opportunity for open dialogue.

  • Although we believe biosimilars can help address the issue of rising healthcare costs in general and concerns over drug pricing in particular, we also recognize that biosimilars alone aren't enough.

  • Fundamentally, we believe that innovation is the key to alleviating the massive financial burden placed on society by chronic diseases like cancer, neurologic disorders and cardiovascular disease.

  • And without innovation and improved access to it, the burden of chronic disease, which already runs in the hundreds of billions of dollars annually for any single one of these diseases will only grow larger as the population ages.

  • And we'll continue to work with our colleagues in the industry to engage with the Administration, Congress and the entire health care community to find ways to promote innovation while also ensuring that our medicines are accessible and affordable for the patients who need them.

  • We appreciate the Administration's engagement on this important issue.

  • And as to prices, we made decisions a few months ago not to increase the prices of any of our medicines at mid-year, and we have no plans to change that for the balance of the year.

  • My final order of business before I turn the call over to David Meline is to discuss the executive succession announcements that we issued today.

  • One of the hallmarks of a well-run company is a carefully considered succession planning process.

  • And I believe that Amgen has done this well through our nearly 40-year history, and I'm confident we'll do so again as Sean Harper and Tony Hooper step down from their roles in anticipation of their forthcoming retirements.

  • I can't express strongly enough my deep appreciation for the contributions these 2 leaders have made to Amgen.

  • They have played a critical role in transforming Amgen into the company we are today and their legacies will continue in the teams they've built and the patients that we'll serve.

  • And above all, Sean and Tony have maintained a relentless focus on Amgen's mission to serve patients and we're a better company for it.

  • As you all know, I have great respect and admiration for Sean and Tony, and they've been great partners and colleagues.

  • And while they leave big shoes to fill, I'm excited about the 2 leaders who are succeeding them and I know Sean and Tony are committed to working with me and my team to ensure that our new leaders successfully transition into their roles.

  • Let me start with Dave Reese, who is known to many of you and is someone I've worked closely with over the past decade.

  • Dave has been with Amgen since 2005 and he's been closely involved with virtually all the medicines that have emerged from our pipeline since then.

  • An oncologist by training, Dave has led discovery and research and parts of clinical development and he's also played a critical role in building our early-stage oncology pipeline, particularly our portfolio of BiTE molecules, which we find especially promising.

  • His background includes past faculty appointments at UCLA and UCSF, and we're excited to have him assuming the new responsibilities here at Amgen today.

  • Dave has joined us on the call and he'll have an opportunity to say a few words a little later this afternoon.

  • Meanwhile, Tony's successor, Murdo Gordon, will be joining us in September from Bristol-Myers Squibb, where he most recently served as Chief Commercial Officer.

  • His experience and capabilities are a perfect fit for where we are going strategically.

  • Murdo has global experience at a time when we're looking to continue to expand our geographic presence.

  • He's operated in a number of our core therapeutic areas of focus including cardiovascular disease, neuroscience, inflammation and oncology.

  • And in addition, during his time at Bristol, Murdo led commercial operations in the U.S., which, as you know, is our largest market, and also had responsibility for value and access, which as I discussed earlier is an increasingly important component of today's dynamic health care environment.

  • Tony will be in his role through much of the third quarter.

  • He'll join us in welcoming Murdo on this earnings call in October.

  • I'm looking forward to having Murdo and Dave become part of our leadership team.

  • Both are exceptional, highly accomplished leaders well-suited for the opportunities ahead.

  • With that, let me turn to David Meline for financial highlights.

  • David W. Meline - Executive VP & CFO

  • Okay, thanks, Bob.

  • Overall, we are pleased with our strong performance in the second quarter as investments in support of our newer products delivered growth and our business continued to generate strong cash flow.

  • Turning to the financial results on Page 6 of the slide deck.

  • Worldwide revenues at $6.1 billion in the second quarter grew 4% year-over-year.

  • Worldwide product sales at $5.7 billion in the second quarter grew 2% year-over-year, and strong unit demand from our newer products outpaced declines in our mature brands.

  • We're also encouraged by the sustained double-digit volume growth from our ex-U.

  • S. markets.

  • Other revenues at $380 million increased $144 million year-over-year due to a milestone payment received related to our Aimovig partnership with Novartis.

  • Non-GAAP operating income at $3.1 billion grew 2% from prior year.

  • Non-GAAP operating margin at 55.1% for the quarter.

  • As in prior years, our operating margin is expected to be lower in the remaining quarters of the year, driven by the timing of expenses.

  • As mentioned last quarter, we continue to evaluate incremental investments in our products and pipeline as well as external opportunities to drive growth and maximize shareholder value.

  • On a non-GAAP basis, cost of sales as a percent of product sales increased by 0.4 points to 13.1%, driven by higher manufacturing cost and unfavorable product mix, partially offset by lower royalty revenue -- expense, sorry.

  • Research and development expenses at $850 million or 15% of product sales were relatively unchanged in the second quarter of 2018 versus last year.

  • For the full year, we expect research and development expense as a percent of product sales to be comparable to 2017 levels.

  • SG&A expenses increased 14% on a year-over-year basis, primarily driven by investments in product launches and marketed product support.

  • We expect Q3 and Q4 spend levels to be consistent with Q2 as we continue to invest in our launch and growth products.

  • In aggregate, non-GAAP operating expenses increased 7% year-over-year.

  • Other income and expenses were a net $185 million expense in Q2.

  • This is unfavorable by $29 million on a year-over-year basis.

  • The non-GAAP tax rate was 14.2% for the quarter, a 3.2 point decrease versus the second quarter of 2017, due to the impacts of U.S. corporate tax reform offset partially by a prior year benefit associated with the effective settlement of certain state and federal tax matters.

  • Non-GAAP net income increased 5% and non-GAAP earnings per share increased 17% year-over-year for the second quarter to $3.83 a share.

  • Turning next to cash flow and the balance sheet on Page 7. The company generated $1.9 billion of free cash flow in the second quarter of 2018 versus $2.1 billion in the second quarter of 2017, driven by higher cash taxes resulting from the first installment of the repatriation tax paid in Q2 of 2018, partially offset by lower ongoing income tax liability as well as higher net income.

  • We continue to provide significant cash returns to shareholders consistent with our commitment to deploy excess cash over time.

  • In Q2, we deployed $3.2 billion to repurchase 18.2 million shares at an average of $175 per share.

  • Further, we plan to deploy an incremental $3 billion to $5 billion for share repurchase in the second half 2018.

  • Lastly, our second quarter dividend increased to $1.32 per share, an increase of 15% over last year.

  • Cash and investments totaled $29.4 billion, a decrease of $10 billion from the second quarter last year.

  • This decrease over the last 12 months was primarily driven by $19 billion of cash returned to shareholders in the form of dividends and share buybacks, partially offset by over $10 billion of free cash flow generated in the same period.

  • Our debt balance stands at $34.5 billion as of June 30, returning a weighted average interest rate of 3.9% and an average maturity of 11.7 years.

  • Turning to the outlook for the business for 2018 on Page 8. We remain on track with our plans to continue investing in our pipeline, building out our global presence and increasing spend in support of long-term volume growth across large patient populations while delivering solid business performance.

  • Today, we are revising our 2018 guidance, which reflects our strong Q2 performance and outlook for the second half of the year.

  • Our latest revenue guidance is $22.5 billion to $23.2 billion versus prior guidance of $21.9 billion to $22.8 billion.

  • This guidance reflects our solid performance to date as well as our confidence of continued good performance, while recognizing uncertainties related to potential new competition for Neulasta and Aranesp, and a range of potential Sensipar generic competition outcomes.

  • With regard to our non-GAAP earnings per share guidance, we are revising the outlook to $13.30 to $14 per share versus previous guidance of $12.80 to $13.70 per share.

  • We are reaffirming our prior non-GAAP tax rate guidance of 13.5% to 14.5%.

  • We continue to expect capital expenditures of approximately $750 million this year.

  • In this regard, we are breaking ground on our new manufacturing facility in Rhode Island in the next week.

  • This concludes the financial update.

  • I'll turn the call over now to Tony.

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • Thank you very much, David, and good afternoon, folks.

  • You'll find our product sales starting on Slide #10.

  • I'm also pleased to report we delivered a solid second quarter with 2% year-over-year product sales growth.

  • Let me first add to Bob and Dave's comments regarding our focus on volume-driven growth.

  • We recognized early on that the evolving U.S. landscape should lead us to focus on investments in brands that serve large patient populations in addition to our traditional focus on more targeted specialized therapies.

  • We also made the strategic decision to advance and bring to market a broad biosimilar portfolio.

  • We're making good progress on all these fronts.

  • As evidence, you can see our strong growth in Prolia and Repatha, and our early success with Aimovig, 3 medicines that treat diseases affecting tens of millions around the world.

  • We are also now in the market with our first biosimilar with several more to follow.

  • In addition, our continued volume growth outside the U.S. serves as a model for what growth in the U.S. can look like in the future.

  • With regard to U.S. pricing, in evaluating factors contributing to our reported sales growth, changes in net selling price had minimal to no impact over the last 18 months and we expect that trend to continue going forward.

  • We've not increased the list prices of any of our medicines since the Administration's drug pricing blueprint was issued.

  • And in May, we decided not to execute list price increases that had been planned for July.

  • This reflects our commitment to identifying opportunities to improve affordability and access for patients.

  • While there are no simple fixes, we want to be part of the solution.

  • To summarize our sales performance for the quarter, we continue to generate double-digit growth, primarily driven by volume for several of our newer products and those with label expansions, such as KYPROLIS, XGEVA, BLINCYTO and Parsabiv.

  • And once again, sales growth outside the U.S. was very strong, increasing by 9% excluding the impact of foreign exchange, driven by 14% volume growth.

  • Let me now turn to our brands.

  • Prolia delivered another outstanding quarter, with sales increasing 21% with 16% volume growth year-over-year and share gains in both the U.S. and international markets.

  • Moving now to oncology, let me start with KYPROLIS.

  • KYPROLIS grew 25% year-on-year, driven primarily by our ex-U.

  • S. business.

  • Our European business benefited this quarter from a $27 million clinical trial purchase.

  • Just recently, we received approval to include overall survival data from the ASPIRE study to both the U.S. and EU labels.

  • I'm also pleased to announce we recently received reimbursement for KYPROLIS in France, and we look forward to a rapid uptake in that country.

  • XGEVA grew 14% year-over-year, primarily from volume as we expanded into multiple myeloma with our label update this January.

  • Turning now to Neulasta, where sales increased 1% year-over-year.

  • We're consistent with recent trends.

  • We saw a slight reduction in the overall market segment in the second quarter, resulting in a small decline in volume.

  • We continue to drive the adoption of Onpro in the U.S. and exited quarter 2 at 63% share of Neulasta unit sales.

  • Onpro's increased utilization underscores the value it provides to patients and providers, which we believe will be a clear differentiator versus the potential competition.

  • We expect to see more global utilization of Onpro in 2018, with recent launches in Germany, the U.K., the Netherlands, Poland, Ireland and Austria.

  • Regarding potential new entrants, we are prepared to compete even when they enter the market and have years of experience competing in the short-acting G-CSF markets across the globe as well as experience competing in select markets outside the U.S. in the long-acting GCF market.

  • We are confident in our capabilities and we know that the reliability of quality supply is a key factor for our customers.

  • For NEUPOGEN, we exited the second quarter holding 37% of the short-acting segment in the U.S. Some of our competitors and public officials have made statements that the U.S. biosimilar market is not working.

  • We have a different point of view.

  • NEUPOGEN was the first major biologic to face biosimilar competition in the U.S. The fact that a biosimilar now holds a majority of the segment in less than 3 years post-launch proves that biosimilars can find a meaningful place in the U.S. market just as they have in Europe.

  • This also gives us confidence in the future of the Amgen biosimilar portfolio.

  • With respect to the remainder of our oncology portfolio, the combined sales of Nplate, Vectibix, IMLYGIC and BLINCYTO were $426 million in the quarter, representing 10% year-on-year growth with 11% coming from volume increases.

  • ENBREL sales declined 11% year-over-year with market growth, segment share and net selling price constant with recent trends.

  • You'll recall that second quarter 2017 benefit from a significant inventory build creating an unfavorable year-over-year comparison.

  • On a quarter-over-quarter basis, sales increased 18%.

  • We continue to be pleased with the launch of ENBREL Mini with AutoTouch which have met -- was met with positive feedback from both patients and physicians.

  • Overall, we expect fundamental drivers of ENBREL to follow the recent trends.

  • Switching now to our ESA portfolio.

  • EPOGEN declined 14% year-over-year due to competition and a lower net selling price driven by extended supply agreement with DaVita.

  • Aranesp declined 12% year-over-year, primarily driven by increased competition.

  • We've been competing against a long-acting product in the independent and mid-sized dialysis organizations since the beginning of the year.

  • We have volume and share-based contracts in place with some of these customers and will continue to compete on an account by account basis.

  • We're also prepared to compete with a recently approved short-acting biosimilar in all customer segments, including hospitals and clinics.

  • Nonetheless, we expect to lose some share in these segments once the product is available.

  • Let's now turn to our calcimimetics.

  • Parsabiv has launched in several markets, including the U.S., where we have a solid uptake at the independent and mid-sized dialysis providers.

  • Both FMC and DaVita continue to run pilots to determine the eventual treatment protocols.

  • So looking ahead, we expect to see adoption continue to increase gradually over time.

  • Turning to Sensipar.

  • Sales declined 2% year-over-year with the launch of Parsabiv.

  • As David mentioned, the 2018 outlook for Sensipar is still uncertain, given the ongoing litigation.

  • It remains possible that a generic competition may enter the market later this year.

  • Repatha sales grew 78% year-over-year, primarily from volume as we continue to compete effectively maintaining a majority share on a global basis.

  • With outcomes data added to our label in the U.S. in December and more recently, in Europe and Japan, our teams have been speaking directly to the benefits of treating patients with Repatha.

  • We recently concluded negotiations to improve patient access in the U.S. with several payers including, but not limited to, CVS and Anthem.

  • These payers presently represent greater than 65% of Repatha's commercial revenue.

  • As these changes take effect in the second half of this year, we expect a proportion of commercial plans requiring documentation in the utilization management criteria to be cut in half with the rest relying on simple physician attestation.

  • In exchange for simpler UM criteria, we have increased our rebates, which will result in a lower net price.

  • We recognize that higher rebates unfortunately don't always result in lower out-of-pocket costs for the patients.

  • Therefore, we continue to work with a wide range of stakeholders on continued improvement in access.

  • We are, however, encouraged by the fact that physicians have consistently recognized the benefit of treating patients with Repatha and have demonstrated a strong demand for the drug even when faced with severe restrictions on reimbursement.

  • Our priority remains reaching the large population of high-risk cardiovascular patients.

  • Now on to Aimovig, the first and only therapy specifically designed to prevent migraine by targeting and blocking the CGRP receptor.

  • Patients and physicians share our excitement for this new therapy.

  • And as you know, we set up a hub to assist patients to gain early access to the product, while we complete negotiations with payers.

  • This program provides a free 2-month trial of Aimovig.

  • We have, in fact, received a large bolus of requests from the headache centers of excellence, reflecting the pent up demand for this innovative new therapy.

  • We are busy working through these requests and expect to see the prescriptions coming through over the coming weeks.

  • Should a patient not be approved by insurers during this 2-month period, we have a bridging program doing their negotiations to ensure that patients are not denied the drug.

  • Negotiations with payers are progressing well and we have successfully completed contracts to obtain coverage for just under 30% of lives already.

  • We are also excited that we launched our first biosimilar KANJINTI, a biosimilar version of Herceptin in Europe.

  • Biosimilars represent an important growth driver for Amgen, and so far, the market is behaving as we anticipated.

  • So in closing, we continue to transition our portfolio, exemplified by volume-driven growth.

  • I'm pleased with the execution and the consistency of performance in 2018.

  • I'm excited about the opportunities in front of us.

  • Let me close by thanking all the Amgen staff that worked so hard to get these important products to patients and for a strong first half of 2018.

  • Let me now hand you over to Sean.

  • Sean?

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • Thanks, Tony, and good afternoon, all.

  • I'll begin today with our neuroscience collaboration with Novartis.

  • Tony spoke about our U.S. launch of Aimovig and the difference it's already making for migraine patients.

  • In addition to the U.S. approval in May, our partnership announced a CHMP positive opinion in the EU last month.

  • And I'm pleased to announce that we recently submitted a supplemental Biologics License Application in the United States for our 140-milligram SureClick auto injector.

  • We look forward to working closely with FDA to make this available to patients as soon as possible.

  • Also in migraine, we expect the data from our proof-of-concept and dose-finding Phase II study of our PAC1 antibody for migraine prevention, AMG 301, to be available by the end of the year and presentation at a medical meeting in 2019.

  • There have been a number of recent developments in Alzheimer's disease clinical programs in our industry, so I thought it would be useful to highlight our partnerships' ongoing ß-secretase inhibitor program and why we have such confidence in our approach.

  • AMG 520, or CNP520, is a potent and selective small molecule inhibitor of BACE1, a target with strong genetic human validation from deCODE that is part of our neuroscience collaboration with Novartis.

  • We're taking a differentiated approach with this clinical program and are currently enrolling 2 Phase III studies.

  • In Alzheimer's disease, amyloid precursor protein cleavage products such as A-beta begin accumulating decades before symptoms present.

  • And by the time a patient is symptomatic, A-beta accumulation has reached a plateau, and significant neurodegeneration and subsequent inflammation have already occurred.

  • Therefore, we've always felt the potential treatment should be administered as early as is feasible in trials attempting to demonstrate disease modification.

  • So our partnership in collaboration with the Banner Institute is focused on a population of presymptomatic cognitively normal subjects who, based on their APOE genotype and age are very highly predisposed to developing cognitive impairment.

  • One study is enrolling approximately 1,300 APOE4 homozygotes, that is subjects with 2 copies of the APOE4 risk allele and a second study is enrolling approximately 2,000 subjects, either APOE4 homozygotes or heterozygotes, which have 1 APOE risk allele and evidence of brain amyloid calculation.

  • While we're studying a genetically defined population, it's a large and representative one, as approximately 60% of patients who develop Alzheimer's disease have at least one of these predisposing disease alleles.

  • We haven't been surprised by how the Alzheimer's clinical landscape has played out of late and the recent disappointments and potential signals of efficacy have not changed our overall conviction around our program, particularly that a small molecule BACE1 inhibitor administered pre-symptomatically is likely to be the best approach to address this pathway and disease.

  • In oncology, I'm happy to report we've completed enrollment in 2 Phase III studies, our study of KYPROLIS + Darzalex + dexamethasone versus KYPROLIS + dexamethasone alone in relapsed or refractory multiple myeloma and our IMLYGIC combination study with KEYTRUDA in unresectable metastatic melanoma.

  • Turning to our early-stage oncology pipeline, we've advanced a number of programs into clinical testing as reflected on Slide 26.

  • And by the end of this year, we expect initial Phase I data from our BCMA BiTE AMG 420 in multiple myeloma and our CD33 BiTE AMG 330 in AML.

  • We look forward to additional data from other BiTE programs over the next year or two, including both liquid and solid tumors.

  • We've also deprioritized AMG 224, our BCMA antibody drug conjugate based on early data reads from our AMG 224 and AMG 420 programs that support our view that our BiTE technology may be superior to current ADC technologies.

  • Finally, on Nplate, we recently submitted an application in the U.S. for pediatric immune thrombocytopenia.

  • In other regulatory news beyond the KYPROLIS update that Tony discussed, we received a Repatha label update incorporating our cardiovascular outcomes data and full approval for BLINCYTO in the EU.

  • And Prolia was approved for the treatment of glucocorticoid-induced osteoporosis in both the U.S. and EU.

  • Also in our bone franchise, we resubmitted our EVENITY Biologics License Application for the treatment of osteoporosis in postmenopausal women at high risk for fracture.

  • Finally, in our biosimilars development programs, in addition to our KANJINTI approval that Tony discussed, we received Phase III data from ABP 710, our biosimilar of REMICADE in rheumatoid arthritis that we believe demonstrates similarity to the reference product.

  • In closing, as always, I'd like to thank our staff for continuing to deliver for patients.

  • Bob?

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Okay.

  • Thank you, Sean.

  • Before we turn the call over to Q&A, Sean, if you'd like to say a few words because I guess this is your swan song earnings call.

  • Why don't you feel free to share your thoughts and then we'll invite Dave Reese to say a few words and then open up for questions.

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • Right.

  • Well, this was, of course, an exceedingly difficult life decision for me given the wonderful experience I've had over more than 16 years at Amgen.

  • I love the mission, the people, the science and technology and all of these are the best they've ever been, not to mention the relationships I have based on mutual trust and respect with you, Bob, and many other Amgen leaders and staff.

  • That said, it's rare in our industry to have the opportunity to personally hire from academia and develop over more than a dozen years such a capable individual as David Reese as a successor for head of R&D.

  • As you all know, succession for this particular role can be very challenging.

  • Dave is truly ready, and just as importantly, after 21 years in the industry, I'm ready for a change, likely to early biotech company creation here in this local area of California.

  • Dave's a medical oncologist who was on faculty at UCLA when I recruited him to Amgen and he served in a variety of increasingly senior roles since his hire in 2005.

  • These have included late-stage clinical developments, Discovery and Research and as our head of Translational Sciences and oncology programs.

  • In his last role, he's introduced all of our current pipeline into the -- of molecules into the clinic.

  • Many of you know Dave from his presence in our investor events.

  • If not, you're going to really enjoy getting to know him.

  • He has my full confidence and that of my team as the next head of R&D for Amgen.

  • I will be staying around through the end of the year to ensure a smooth transition.

  • Finally, I'd like to thank everyone at Amgen and in the investment community for the support I've received over the years.

  • It's been a privilege to be part of the evolution of this great American company and to have such high quality interactions with our investors and analysts.

  • Dave, welcome to earnings call land.

  • Why don't you make a few comments?

  • David M. Reese - SVP of Translational Sciences

  • Thank you, Sean, and thank you for your partnership.

  • It's certainly been a highlight of my career over the last 13 years.

  • I'd like to emphasize that we're dedicated to our core mission of advancing science for the benefit of patients.

  • We'll continue to focus on developing medicines that produce large effect sizes in serious diseases, where there is significant unmet medical need.

  • I've been a part of the R&D leadership team for some time as Sean mentioned, and I also believe that the commitment that we have made to using human genetics to understand the origins of disease and to suggest therapeutic interventions is the right choice and in fact will become increasingly important in our drug discovery enterprise.

  • Likewise, I'm convinced that platforms such as our BiTE technology and other therapeutic modalities have the potential to deliver transformative medicines.

  • Having led our translational sciences efforts for some time, I cannot be more excited about our preclinical and clinical pipelines.

  • At the same time, it's undeniable that we've entered a period of remarkable technological ferment, leading to both a deeper understanding of disease and providing a wide array of new technologies that will change how we do science at the bench and advance molecules in the clinic.

  • In light of this, I'm extraordinarily enthusiastic about the opportunities in front of us and I look forward to keeping Amgen at the forefront of this rapidly changing industry.

  • I also very much look forward to working with all of you in the investment community as we focus on creating value through delivering our pipeline.

  • Bob?

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Okay.

  • Thanks, Dave.

  • Let's open it up for questions now and I will ask our operation just to remind you of all of the procedures for doing that.

  • Ian, over to you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from the line of Ying Huang from Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

  • Ying Huang - Director in Equity Research

  • So first one I have a high level question.

  • You guys bought back $3.2 billion of stock in second quarter in addition to the $10 billion buyback in first quarter and then there's another plan to do $3 billion to $5 billion in second half.

  • Does this suggest anything about your strategic thinking about M&A transactions given the large buyback?

  • And then secondly, maybe I want to see if you have any comments on the potential entry of a Neulasta biosimilar in the second half.

  • We saw a [line in] price at 33% discount on this price level.

  • So what's the assumption on your second half run rate for Neulasta?

  • And what's your defense strategy on Neulasta?

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Okay, there's quite a lot there, Ying.

  • Let's break it into 2 parts, start with David Meline in response to your question on capital allocation, and then we'll ask Tony just to reiterate what he said on the call.

  • David W. Meline - Executive VP & CFO

  • Yes.

  • So on capital allocation, I think we've been quite clear in the past and we haven't changed our point of view, which is how we create value as an enterprise is investing in innovative medicines either internally through our own R&D efforts and also we're very active looking for opportunities externally to add to the portfolio.

  • And so we'll continue to do that.

  • What's also true is I think we all know that we have a tremendous capability for cash generation and we have a large amount of excess cash following tax reform and we are committed to return excess cash through time to shareholders.

  • So I wouldn't read our ongoing repurchase activities to be anything other than following on that commitment and I would definitely not read that we're backing off from our commitment to continue to add to our pipeline and our portfolio.

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • So as regards to the Neulasta biosimilar, I mean, clearly, we've been competing in the marketplace with NEUPOGEN and biosimilars for a number of years now.

  • The team stands ready and able to compete.

  • We have a long legacy and history of reliable and consistency of quality supply.

  • We have spent quite a bit of time converting the market to the Onpro device, which is a unique and innovative device, which is beneficial for both clinical practice and for patients themselves.

  • And I think there's quite a difference in the marketplace between the list prices of these drugs and the ASP price.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Michael Yee from Jefferies.

  • Michael Jonathan Yee - Equity Analyst

  • I guess, Sean, this might be your last call, so I wanted to ask you a question and that was you highlighted Alzheimer's and perhaps you could opine, obviously, on your view since you are running different studies in APOE carriers and non-carriers whether there's truly a difference there and whether there's a difference in progression and opine on the debate of course [this week.]

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • Well, Michael, I think that we've been able to utilize data that we've accumulated in Iceland through deCODE, who as you know, have done some of the really seminal breakthrough genetics in epidemiology in Alzheimer's to understand the rate of cognitive decline that occurs in patients who have 0, 1 or 2 of the APOE4 alleles and that plus age allows one to make some estimates of when people who are cognitively normal will begin to develop some cognitive impairment in the context of a disease-modifying trial.

  • So we've had the advantage of that information and that's what led us with Novartis to move toward this kind of a genetic stratification of the population.

  • And we again expect because we are looking at this type of enriched population that we'll be able to conduct in a feasible way these trials, which otherwise would be very difficult to conduct if you were taking patients who are cognitively normal and didn't have these high risks for conversion in the reasonably near future trying to engage in a clinical trial.

  • So it is a differentiated approach, and I think an important one.

  • And as I stressed before, it's not like a little proof-of-concept experiment in some tiny subset of patients with a genetic risk factor.

  • This is 60% of the people who present with Alzheimer's disease have 1 or 2, I believe, risk alleles.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Matthew Harrison from Morgan Stanley.

  • Matthew Kelsey Harrison - Executive Director

  • So before my question, let me say congratulations to Sean and Tony on their tenure and good luck if they move on and welcome to Dave.

  • So Tony, I was hoping a question for you.

  • You mentioned a little bit about Aimovig, I was hoping you could provide some insight into 2 factors.

  • We're obviously seeing the scripts, but we don't really have a good idea of the translation of those scripts for free drug into revenue, so I don't know if you're willing to just give us any thoughts around how we should be thinking about the script trajectory versus your ability to generate revenue from them.

  • And then second item is you talked about having about 30% of the lives with coverage already, could you just talk a little bit about what's the utilization management criteria that you've been able to negotiate for that?

  • And do you think that's suggestive of the UM that we should expect for the rest of the plan?

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • So I want to start by saying I think from what I've seen anecdotally from both physicians and from patients, the response to Aimovig in the marketplace is beyond our expectations.

  • So patients are really finding this to be a definitive difference in a way of managing their migraines.

  • We knew we would have a little bit of an issue in the beginning as we have sort of put the contracts into place, so we created the hub together with Novartis to ensure all patients are referred into the hub first to allow them access if they didn't already have coverage to this 2-month free program.

  • Right now, the majority of our business is in free drug but we are rapidly converting that business to paid prescriptions.

  • And you'll see as the bolus comes through the hub, there's been quite a dramatic change in the number of patients that happened in the last week or so and we expect this to get back to a steady state in the next 3 or 4 weeks or so.

  • In terms of those organizations who were visionary enough to move rapidly to give access to patients who have been struggling with this devastating disease for a long time, the UM criteria has been pretty clear.

  • We always assume the drug we use as a second line when patients have failed on existing generic therapies and that's where it is but all the plans at the moment only require physician attestation, right.

  • So no documentation, just the physician stating very clearly that the patient has already tried some other products.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Chris Raymond from Piper Jaffray.

  • Christopher Joseph Raymond - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • I have a question on copay accumulator.

  • I think last quarter, Tony, I think you indicated that you don't anticipate seeing any impact in the first half, but we're now in the thick of Q3, and for most modeling of these types of plans, it looks like much of the impact is likely to be in the summer.

  • So I guess, maybe can you describe and also one of your big competitors actually lowered guidance for one of their drugs as a result of an impact here.

  • Can you maybe just talk about the dynamic impacting ENBREL, in particular.

  • I know there's a few countermeasures that you and other folks in the industry have talked about taking but maybe give an update as to how effective those countermeasures are and where things stand with this thing?

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • I'm not going to talk about what the counter measures are that we've put into place, they're clearly competitive.

  • But I have looked very closely at the potential impact of accumulative programs on ENBREL, both in the first quarter where I saw minimal to nothing and again for the second quarter, where I saw minimal to nothing and I'm not forecasting much in the third quarter, beyond.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Umer Raffat from Evercore ISI.

  • Umer Raffat - Senior MD & Senior Analyst of Equity Research

  • I figured I'll ask Tony and Sean a question each.

  • So perhaps, first, Sean maybe just a little confused on your response to one of the prior questions on AMG 520.

  • And I guess, what I'm asking is why not enroll noncarriers?

  • Do you think they'll perform better and it will be harder to tease out a signal?

  • I just want to understand why not have it in your Phase III program.

  • And then Tony, my question to you was just to clarify how Neulasta's economics work the way it's structured currently in the face of biosimilars, and specifically, what I was looking to understand was, a, is any part of Onpro reimbursed via part D, as in David?

  • And then also the economics, how they work for 340Bs versus clinics?

  • And whether some part of market could be rebated more or could be more defendable, that kind of thing.

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • Okay.

  • A lot of questions there, we'll try and take those one at a time.

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • With respect to the strategy we're using, so the way to think about it is that we are focused on testing people before it's potentially too late to be able to show disease modification.

  • And so we believe that means that people have to be cognitively normal on an intense battery of cognitive testing.

  • But if you imagine bringing people in who have -- don't have a predisposing genetic driver to have them be very likely to develop the cognitive impairment in the relatively near future, you're going to be doing a study forever.

  • So what we decided to do is basically enrich for people who have both a certain age and the APOE status that we're likely to have enough of them so people going from cognitively normal to cognitively impaired during the course of the trial that won't take forever.

  • And given that this represents 60% of people with Alzheimer's disease, it seems like a pretty reasonable strategy to me.

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • So as regards Neulasta, Umer, all of Neulasta is part B. Nothing is in Part D. From a reimbursement perspective, part B is obviously under ASP +. Your ASP depends on what your prices are today and what they'll evolve to be in a few quarters' time.

  • As Amgen, as a company, we've always presented our position very strongly to both the environment and to CMS and the government that we prefer a level playing field between ourselves and biosimilars in the future and allow normal competitive factors in the marketplace to allow us to compete equally.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Terence Flynn from Goldman Sachs.

  • Terence C. Flynn - MD

  • Best of luck to Sean and Tony on next steps and congrats to Dave.

  • Maybe first just for Tony on Repatha, I was wondering what percent of lives now have the eased utilization management criteria?

  • And with the new treatment guidelines expected later this year, do you think that'll have a further impact on access?

  • And then maybe just for Sean on AMG 301, you mentioned the PAC1 antibody, what are you hoping to see from this Phase II trial?

  • And if it's positive, could you move right into Phase III?

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Okay, got a couple of questions there.

  • Repatha, the utilization management question and how guidelines may affect...

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • So as I said, about 65% of our business at the moment is going to move towards -- attestation only.

  • And in terms of total evolution of commercial business, that's probably between 25% and 40% of the total lives available.

  • I think as we continue to negotiate the other plans, we will get better utilization management criteria.

  • I do believe we're going to get better access.

  • The drug is proving to be something that physicians and cardiologists are prescribing consistently continually and the demand from patients is still there.

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • And Terence, for AMG 301, our PAC1 antibody receptor antagonist, it -- we are doing something very similar to what we did with Aimovig where the proof of concept trial also includes dose ranging all predicated on some dermal blood flow assays that were done in healthy subjects to pinion the dose ranging.

  • So if we're successful in demonstrating proof-of-concept, hopefully, we also would have enough dose information to be able to proceed directly into Phase III as we were able to do with Aimovig.

  • But of course, we'll see.

  • This is a novel pathway that needs to be validated in humans through this experiment.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from Geoffrey Porges from Leerink Partners LLC.

  • Geoffrey Craig Porges - Director of Therapeutics Research, MD & Senior Biotechnology Analyst

  • Congratulations to Tony and Sean.

  • One quick question on perhaps, Bob, on rebates.

  • Could you give us a sense of what impact elimination of the Safe Harbor for rebating would have on Amgen's products access and price.

  • And then I hate to sort of pursue this Alzheimer's question again, but Sean, could you talk, as you're sort of looking at leaving Amgen, what are the barriers to doing -- exploring all the sensible combination ideas that might be out there in Alzheimer's given all the frustration that the industry has had with single product trials?

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Okay, Geoff, maybe we'll answer your rebate question in 2 parts.

  • I'll start, and then Tony, you can jump in.

  • Big picture, Geoff, as you know, the discussion about rebates is underway.

  • The Administration has asked for perspectives and we've participated with our industry colleagues in sharing our thoughts about this.

  • We think that the Administration is focusing on an important topic here, which is rebates and the impact that the rebate structure in our industry has on patient affordability, so we welcome an opportunity to be able to share our industry perspectives with decision-makers and the government, and that process is underway.

  • It's a little bit premature, I think, to talk about what the specifics in your question were on our business, but I'll invite Tony to share his thoughts.

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • So, maybe I can add to what Bob was saying, it's clearly in competitive markets, rebates tend to be higher.

  • And so the gap between your list price and your net price tends to get quite large.

  • None of which allows patients to benefit from it, of course, because they're paying co-pays, coinsurance or deductibles based on the list price.

  • If the rebates went away by definition, your list prices would get closer to net prices and patients would be able to access drugs better.

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • And one maybe one last thought, sorry, Geoff, and then we'll kick to Sean.

  • Rebates and the structure that exists today evolved over many decades.

  • It's hard to imagine how -- what the impact of unraveling that would be if that unraveling occurred quickly.

  • But again, part of the discussion, we look forward to trying to figure out whether there's a better way for patients than what's in place today.

  • Sean?

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • Yes, I mean, it's a great question, Geoff.

  • I think that what I would say is that it's difficult given the costs and complexity and duration of these kind of trials to imagine going directly into combination without having demonstrated some efficacy and safety of the individual interventions.

  • And I think there is a very strong logic behind combination in the disease because we know from the human genetics that one problem is APP processing and degeneration of fragments like A-beta and then another problem the way in which the glial cells in the brain handle the subsequent cell detritus and death and inflammation.

  • And that's pretty clear from the genetics, which has largely been elucidated by deCODE.

  • And so we think that we'll get there and that there will be combination therapy but we probably need to see that the individual -- one of the individual components validated and then you'll see people adding on to that therapy to try and see more dramatic impact on disease progression.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Robyn Karnauskas from Citi.

  • And our next question is from the line of Geoff Meacham from Barclays.

  • Geoffrey Christopher Meacham - MD & Senior Research Analyst

  • Just a question on health care policy.

  • I know there's been a lot of talk about with respect to biosimilars interchangeability.

  • And Tony, I want to get your perspective on maybe how close we are on that?

  • And then the other issue is Part B to Part D conversions sort of demo project, kind of what your thoughts are on that?

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Okay.

  • Maybe we'll ask Sean to talk about the appropriateness of interchangeability from a regulatory standpoint first, Jeff, and then Tony, feel free to add any thoughts you have.

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • Yes.

  • I mean, I think, obviously, there are 2 aspects to this.

  • There's the regulatory piece which varies from country to country.

  • In the U.S., the -- as you probably know, the agency has provided reasonably clear guidance around what's necessary to achieve the interchangeability.

  • But that hasn't really been put into practice yet.

  • If people are doing trials that are designed to meet that standard, no one's having approval based on it yet, so there's a learning curve there.

  • But that will be an important goal that some companies will pursue with their products.

  • Then there's the question of whether there may be, if you will, interchangeability policies that will exist at the level of payers and who can potentially do whatever they want independent of the regulatory component that, Tony, maybe you could comment on.

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • As I said, NEUPOGEN to us is probably the best example of the existing system allowing biosimilars to access the marketplace.

  • After 3 years, they hold the majority market share, and therefore, we continued to put forth our proposal that the market be left as is, that we keep the playing field level, that we allow the normal competitive framework of the marketplace to take place.

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • [And talking] about B to D, the -- I'm not so sure as to exactly what you're getting at Geoff, but obviously, one of the things that's being discussed in Washington is whether it makes sense to consider the movement of certain drugs from part B to D and, again, the early stages of discussions about what that would look like and for which products it will be relevant, so premature I think to speculate about whose products are being included in that over what time and what impact.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Cory Kasimov from JPMorgan.

  • Cory William Kasimov - Senior Biotechnology Analyst

  • Also let me add my congratulations to Sean and Tony on the retirements as well as to David on his well-deserved promotion.

  • So the question is for Sean.

  • And I wanted to ask about BCMA and kind of what you see is the bar in your ongoing Phase I trials.

  • And I know you're looking at your products more as monotherapy assets or as part of existing combinations down the road?

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • Yes.

  • I think this antigen is going to likely prove to be fairly transformative in the disease.

  • And the question becomes the modality that you go after it with, as I mentioned, we're less impressed with what we're seeing with the ADCs and the BiTE technology appears to be capable of generating early data small numbers of patients with very dramatic results.

  • Whether some -- you gain anything from a cell-based therapy directed against this antigen nobody knows because there's no -- not even a way to do an indirect comparison at this point let alone any kind of direct comparison, so it will be really interesting.

  • I think, of course, initially, we'll be studying it as a monotherapy in patients who are in late stage and have undergone many rounds of attempts to treat the disease.

  • But one could easily imagine a therapy like this entering all lines of therapy and including attempts to cure the disease in first-line settings.

  • Dave, you may want to comment further.

  • David M. Reese - SVP of Translational Sciences

  • Yes.

  • It's a very good question.

  • We would anticipate the initial forays to be as monotherapy, but there are a variety of potential biologic combinations that makes sense and we will plan to also aggressively develop those over time as Sean mentioned earlier, we are hoping to present publicly sometime later in the year on some of the first clinical data from these programs.

  • Operator

  • And our next question from Kennen MacKay from RBC Capital Markets.

  • Kennen B. MacKay - Co-Head of Biotechnology Research

  • A quick one on the EVENITY resubmission.

  • I was wondering just how you were thinking about this internally.

  • There's obviously, some hope, at least on the Street, that the independent blinded re-review would suggest some kind of mis adjudication of events which may really help the resubmission.

  • And then secondly, on Neulasta, I just wanted to get your perspective on sort of the strength of the Onpro defense of the hospital protocol has changed.

  • I know a lot of time and effort went into getting Onpro onto hospital protocols.

  • I was just hoping to get your perspective as to how large of a barrier this is, for instance, how challenging it is to be -- to be changed to Mylan's generic?

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Well we'll have Sean answer the first question and Tony, if you take the second question.

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • So with respect to EVENITY, we did a very comprehensive scouring of the clinical databases and then re-adjudicated all of the events that were originally identified, plus any that have been identified subsequently.

  • The good news is it showed that our research platform is very robust because when we re-did this, we saw pretty much the same thing we did last time that we did it originally.

  • The bad news is that it didn't really change the data set for the potential safety signal.

  • It is the opinion, and this is just an opinion, of the people involved both at Harvard and here at Amgen that the most likely explanation for the finding in the Alendronate-controlled trial is chance.

  • We think that's most likely.

  • However, that's not going to be good enough to mean that you're not going to have a need to warn patients about a potential risk.

  • And I think we are sort of back where we were before we did the exercise.

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • And then on to your question on Neulasta Onpro.

  • To remind you again that all the institutions are working as hard as anyone else is to improve on efficiencies of the processes.

  • Mostly large teaching institutions took about 12 to 18 months to change the clinical practice because it does apparently take some time to change clinical practice in a large institution.

  • The benefit of this one of course is it changes that entire protocol of how you treat a patient, how many times a patient has to come back to an institution, how many times the oncology pharmacist has to be remixing, how many times the oncology nurse has to be infusing and how many times the oncologist has to be there, which is all on top of the fact that a lot of patients live far from a hospital and have a problem to come back the next day, when they are suffering from the side effects of high-dose chemo.

  • So what we've delivered is not just a unique opportunity to give better benefits to patients who can spend more time at home or going to have a drug administered at home, but we've also taken out a huge amount of inefficiency in the institutions, which allows the nurses, the oncologists and the pharmacist to go and do something else.

  • So one assumes that the value we bring is more than just the drug itself, it's truly an augmented value and we believe that's fairly sticky.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Philip Nadeau from Cowen and Company.

  • Philip M. Nadeau - MD and Senior Research Analyst

  • Just one on Repatha.

  • In the prepared remarks, you mentioned that price was going down because the agreements that have recently been signed.

  • Can you talk a little bit about the time course of that decline in price, when did it start?

  • Did it start in Q2 or is it starting on July 1?

  • And when will price stabilize again?

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • So the list price hasn't changed.

  • Some of the rebates by contract have changed.

  • Some of the newer contracts become effective July 1, and we clearly happen to be competitive in the marketplace to maintain these contracts.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Carter Gould from UBS.

  • Carter Lewis Gould - Large Cap Biotech Analyst

  • I guess for Sean and David, coming back to the BCMA question.

  • How should we be thinking about 420 relative to 701?

  • I mean, is there any sort of differentiation other than the half-life format?

  • And then sort of, I guess, is 420 just sort of proof-of-principle and the strategy would be to switch to 701?

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Dave, why don't you?

  • David M. Reese - SVP of Translational Sciences

  • Thanks for the question and it's a good one.

  • 420, as you may know, advanced into the clinic earlier than 701.

  • And so our intent at this time is to continue advancing both molecules until such time as we've generated data sets definitive enough for us to make a decision.

  • All things being equal, of course, we'll take forward the half-life extended molecule.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of [Ronnie Gal] from Bernstein.

  • Unidentified Analyst

  • So we're talking about biosimilar, let me just ask something there.

  • First, Tony, I was wondering about your Herceptin subcu in Europe since you're launching the molecule, do you think that segment of the market will be protected from biosimilar competition?

  • Or do you think this is accessible?

  • And then in the United States, I noticed you've signed off agreements with various providers around oncology, and I was wondering do those agreements provide economic advantages for those providers to continue to use Neulasta over the biosimilar over the duration of the agreement?

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • Okay, so any innovative SKU to any product of course makes the entry of the biosimilar a little bit more difficult.

  • It doesn't make it impossible, so we're watching all those segments in Europe as we speak right now.

  • And then as regards to Neulasta and our customers in the U.S., we have fairly strong relationships with our customers and we have continued to work hard to maintain and to expand those good relationships, yes.

  • Operator

  • And our next question is from the line of Jim Birchenough from Wells Fargo Securities.

  • James William Birchenough - MD and Senior Biotechnology Analyst

  • I'm just wondering if you'd be willing to give any further detail on patients in the hub for Aimovig whether you'd quantify those patients or give us a better sense of how many patients may be queued up in this bolus that may be coming?

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • So we haven't made that public yet.

  • We're trying to make sure that we understand how unique each of those patients are coming in and that there are appropriate patients.

  • I would say that as you watch the evolution of the prescriptions coming out of that, you start getting a feel of the size of the bolus.

  • So it's well past 6:00 p.m.

  • on the East Coast.

  • Why don't we take 2 last questions?

  • Operator

  • Our next question is from the line of Salim Syed from Mizuho.

  • Salim Qader Syed - MD, Senior Biotechnology Analyst of Equity Research & Head of Biotechnology Research

  • Just one on Aimovig, probably for Tony.

  • Tony, I was wondering if you can speak to when we're thinking about Aimovig longer-term past this bolus here, what are the potential bottlenecks that you're seeing?

  • Do you think that this is an area where you'll have to get reimbursements at the PCP level in order to not have a bottleneck in the system?

  • And also, the neurologists that are treating, do they have additional capacity to take in additional patients?

  • Anthony C. Hooper - EVP of Global Commercial Operations

  • So there are about 20 headache specialty centers around the country at the moment, and the volume of patients they can take in depends on how much they expand over time or not.

  • But I'd say it's a large number of patients coming through them.

  • And then there are another a couple of thousand neurologists who clearly are prescribers but I do believe that the role of primary care physicians down the road becomes important.

  • They do see patients and their ability to refer patients who are appropriate for a drug like Aimovig would be critical for the long term, I guess.

  • Operator

  • And our last question is from the line of Brian Skorney from Robert W. Baird.

  • Brian Peter Skorney - Senior Research Analyst

  • I just wanted a question on the pipeline on AMG 301 for migraine prevention.

  • I was wondering if you could just kind of help us understand the role that you guys see at PAC1 versus CGRP?

  • And if successful, how do you kind of envision these being used, separately or a possibility for a combination down the line?

  • Sean E. Harper - EVP of Research & Development

  • I guess, what I would say, this is Sean, is that the thing I'd stress is that these appear to be rather independent neural pathways in the system that -- and so if it works, if PAC1 inhibition works, one would expect that it's not likely that it's going to be kind of redundant to CGRP, so you could imagine situations in which patients who are poor responders to CGRP inhibition might respond to PAC1 or that the 2 together might give better efficacy assuming that was tolerable.

  • But that will all have to be figured out in the clinic and we're just in the first step of trying to understand whether as monotherapy we can see efficacy of the PAC1 pathway in the first place.

  • Robert A. Bradway - Chairman & CEO

  • Okay, Ian.

  • Well, thanks.

  • Let me just say a couple of quick remarks.

  • Obviously, we're encouraged by the strong start we've enjoyed through the first half of 2018 and hope our investors share our optimism for the long-term prospects of the business through the growth we expect from our new and recently launched products as well as our biosimilars and innovative pipeline.

  • And finally, I would be remiss if I didn't take a moment to thank our staff for their continuing focus on our mission which is to serve patients with innovative medicines and make a big difference for serious disease.

  • So thank you to all our staff for their focus, the results of which you see in our report through the first 6 months.

  • Looking forward to talking to all of you in October.

  • Thank you.

  • Arvind Sood - VP of IR

  • Thanks all for your participation.

  • If we didn't get to your question, feel free to call us.

  • The IR team will be standing by for several hours.

  • Thanks again.

  • Operator

  • Ladies and gentlemen, we thank you for joining us for Amgen's Second Quarter 2018 Financial Results Conference Call.

  • You may now disconnect.