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  • Operator

  • Welcome to the Onyx Pharmaceuticals Third Quarter 2012 Financial Results Conference Call.

  • My name is Anthony, and I will be your operator for today's call.

  • At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode.

  • Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.

  • Please note that this conference is being recorded.

  • I would now like to turn the call over to Onyx Pharmaceuticals.

  • You may begin.

  • Amy Figueroa - VP Public Relations

  • Thanks, Anthony.

  • Good afternoon.

  • I'm Amy Figueroa, Senior Director of Investor Relations at Onyx Pharmaceuticals.

  • Thank you for participating on our third quarter 2012 financial results conference call.

  • Leading the call today is Dr. Tony Coles, Onyx's President and CEO.

  • After Tony's introductory comments, Dr. Helen Torley, Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer, will discuss the progress in our franchises, and specifically, the US launches of both Kyprolis and Stivarga.

  • Next, Barb Klencke, Senior Vice President of Clinical Development, will provide an update on our global clinical programs.

  • Finally, Matt Fust, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, will review our financial results for the third quarter of 2012.

  • We will then open the call to questions.

  • Please note that we are issuing a correction to our press release as one of the supplemental tables reconciling GAAP and non-GAAP diluted EPS was missing a bracket around some of the numbers for the three months ending September 30, 2012 period.

  • Please note, also, that we will be making forward-looking statements during this conference call that could include financial, clinical, regulatory or commercial projections.

  • Statements that are not historical facts are forward-looking.

  • References to what we expect, believe, intend to do, plan, estimate, or other statements referring to future events or results are intended to identify these statements as forward-looking.

  • Forward-looking statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties.

  • For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, we refer you to our 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2011, as well as to our other filings.

  • We expect to file our 10-Q for the third quarter ended September 30, 2012 tomorrow.

  • During today's call, we will be discussing two recently approved therapies -- Kyprolis, carfilzomib, for injection, and Bayer's Stivarga, regorafenib tablets.

  • For full prescribing information on Kyprolis, we refer you to the package insert posted at www.kyprolis.com.

  • For full prescribing information on Bayer's Stivarga, we refer you to the package insert posted at www.stivarga-us.com.

  • These links are also included in today's press release.

  • In addition, we will be presenting and discussing non-GAAP financial measures.

  • For a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the corresponding GAAP measures, please see today's press release which is posted on the Onyx website at www.onyx.com, within the News and Media section.

  • A slide presentation that supplements the information on this conference call is being posted on the Onyx website.

  • The presentation will be located on the Financial Information page of the Investor section.

  • I will now turn the call over to Tony.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Thanks, Amy.

  • Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us today.

  • As we begin our call, let me first say that our thoughts are with the many impacted by Hurricane Sandy with the hope that all those affected will be able to quickly begin the recovery process.

  • We are very mindful, especially of the Onyx employees affected, and wish them the very best in the days ahead.

  • We started this year with one globally successful product, Nexavar, approved for the treatment of two types of cancer and a bold vision for building a leading oncology company with multiple therapies to help even more patients with cancer.

  • Specifically, our objective was to have by the end of this year two newly approved oncology therapies, bringing the total number of medicines in the Onyx portfolio to three, across an array of solid and liquid tumors.

  • We knew this would be an ambitious goal, but I'm very pleased and very proud to say that we have achieved this important milestone.

  • And with this achievement, Onyx has truly been transformed both as a company and as a business.

  • We are focused on growing our top line and continuing our evolution as a leading biopharmaceutical company.

  • In a single quarter, both Kyprolis and Stivarga received FDA approval, and today both these new products area available to patients in disease settings where treatment options have been extremely limited or nonexistent.

  • These approvals would not have been possible without the patients, their caregivers, and the physicians who participated in multiple clinical trials, and for this, we thank them.

  • At Onyx, we are dedicated to innovation in the service of patients with unmet needs and launching these two new therapies is our way of demonstrating this ongoing commitment.

  • Within our proteasome inhibitor franchise, we are beginning to unlock the significant potential we see for Kyprolis globally.

  • Starting with the US, we are very pleased with the early performance of the launch, which is meeting our expectations for performance as we reach critically ill patients across the country.

  • But our job is far from over, and we remain committed to investing both strategically and prudently in a comprehensive registration program for Kyprolis across multiple lines of myeloma treatment.

  • We continue to make good progress with our oral proteasome inhibitor, oprozomib, as we are now advancing a new formulation for this therapy in the clinic.

  • Ultimately, both of these programs are driven by our intense interest in transforming myeloma into a disease that is chronic and no longer uniformly fatal.

  • Turning to our kinase inhibitor franchise, just over a month ago Bayer received US FDA approval of Stivarga for patients with previously treated metastatic colorectal cancer.

  • The US-based Onyx and Bayer teams began executing launch plans immediately, leveraging and expanding our kinase inhibitor sales force to co-promote both Nexavar and Stivarga.

  • In parallel, Bayer continues to make significant regulatory progress with global filings for both colorectal cancer and GIST.

  • As a reminder, Onyx will receive a 20% royalty on net sales of Stivarga globally without any development or commercialization investment required.

  • Recently, I participated in the launch meetings for Kyprolis and Stivarga.

  • At each launch meeting it was impressive to see the knowledge, commitment and excitement exhibited by these highly skilled teams.

  • While we're in the early post-approval period for both therapies, we are encouraged by the results and the initial work of these two talented teams in bringing these therapies to patients with limited options.

  • As you know, the cornerstone of our kinase inhibitor franchise continues to be Nexavar, a therapy reaching patients globally in over 100 countries.

  • Nexavar contributes an important cash flow for our business as a treatment for both unresectable liver cancer, where it maintains its unique leadership position despite multiple competitive attempts, and for kidney cancer, where it remains an important treatment option.

  • Today, with three marketed therapies to treat four different cancers, and additional indication-bearing studies underway, Onyx is well on its way to becoming a leading oncology company.

  • And with two launches underway and multiple catalysts ahead, we expect the momentum in the business we've seen to continue.

  • Now, let me turn the call over to Helen.

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • Thank you, Tony.

  • With the approval of both Kyprolis and Stivarga in the last three months, the commercial team has been focused on executing our launch plans and bringing these important new therapies to patients in the United States.

  • Beginning with Kyprolis, I'm pleased to report that net sales in the third quarter following our approval on July 20, were $19 million.

  • This number reflects orders placed and product received by clinics and hospitals.

  • Let me bring some additional color to the market dynamics and product demand we are seeing in this initial launch period.

  • Importantly, there is a clear recognition of the unmet need that exists for the estimated 10,000 to 15,000 patients annually who have received bortezomib and an IMiD and have progressed on or within 60 days of their last therapy.

  • I have had the opportunity to spend time in the field with our experienced oncology team in the last several weeks, and have seen that this recognition has resulted in good access to healthcare practitioners who are indicating a strong interest in learning more about using Kyprolis.

  • While our promotional efforts are being focused on approximately 2,000 clinics and hospitals where the majority of the Kyprolis indicated patients are currently managed, our initial priority has been to call on those accounts with the highest volume of potential patients and those centers that participated in the expanded access program.

  • Through the end of September, approximately 50% of the 2,000 targeted accounts have already placed orders for Kyprolis.

  • Centers participating in the expanded access program were among first to place orders, with 110 patients who remained on the program at approval converting to commercial drug.

  • Further early orders were driven by centers that had pre-identified patients for immediate use of Kyprolis in the event of Kyprolis approval.

  • In September, we saw adoption continue to broad to additional clinics and hospitals following visits from our field team.

  • Initial market research and field team feedback suggests that most physicians are using Kyprolis in this third line plus patient who has previously received bortezomib and an IMiD and who are now progressing.

  • Kyprolis penetration of the third line plus population is estimated to have already reached 10% as of September within eight weeks of the launch.

  • Turning now to reimbursement.

  • The comprehensive program that we rolled out including Onyx 360, extended payment terms, and deployment of our field-based reimbursement expert has been well received.

  • Confirmed coverage has already been received from all 12 of the Medicare administrative carriers, or MACs.

  • And in addition, 70% of the 167 million covered lives who are in the top 67 commercial plans have confirmed coverage for Kyprolis.

  • The coverage policies and any prior authorizations that are in place are generally consistent with the label indication and have not been reported to be a barrier to adoption or use.

  • Of note, our experience so far is that the majority of commercial plans that have not yet published the coverage policy are also covering Kyprolis on an individual patient basis.

  • The Onyx 360 program staff and our field reimbursement teams are available to help answer questions on Kyprolis.

  • In summary, the initial response by physicians to Kyprolis has been quite positive, with a strong early sales driven by the pre-identification of patients for early use following approval, conversion of the expanded access program patient, and the continued growth in the number of new accounts adopting and ordering Kyprolis in September.

  • Let me now comment on our Chinese inhibitor franchise performance and our second product launch for the quarter.

  • Stivarga was approved on September 27, a month ahead of its PDUFA date, and the Bayer and Onyx sales teams were prepared to launch and began promoting Stivarga immediately.

  • An estimated 20,000 to 30,000 patients annually in the United States are indicated under the label.

  • These are previously treated metastatic colorectal cancer patients who have limited treatment options today.

  • While it is still too early to provide specifics, initial feedback has been that there is an appreciation of the unmet need that exists for the third line plus metastatic colorectal cancer patient population and a significant interest on the part of physicians in learning more about Stivarga.

  • We fully expect Stivarga to be reimbursed by most insurance plans and Medicare.

  • And as we await formulary reviews, the REACH Program originally set up for Nexavar patients, will also assist individuals obtaining coverage for Stivarga.

  • Looking at other areas outside of the United States, Bayer has regulatory submissions for metastatic CRC pending in Europe and Japan.

  • Bayer has received priority review for metastatic CRC in Japan, and priority review for GIST sNDA in the US.

  • Regulatory actions are expected in both of these key regions in 2013.

  • Focusing now on Nexavar.

  • In the third quarter of 2012, Nexavar global net sales excluding Japan were $208 million, comparable to net sales in the same period of the prior year.

  • After taking into account the erosion and the dollar/Euro exchange rate, global Nexavar net sales grew approximately 6% on a currency-neutral basis.

  • In the United States, net sales were $67 million, 7% higher than in the same period of 2011, primarily driven by price and growth in use in liver cancer.

  • This growth in liver cancer has been driven by increased adoption and use by hepatologists and other nononcologist prescribers.

  • Net sales for the third quarter for the rest of the world excluding Japan and the US were $141 million as demand-driven sales growth in Asia-Pacific and Latin America was offset by Europe.

  • The approval of Stivarga creates an opportunity for Onyx's newly expanded kinase inhibitor sales team to now promote two products with demonstrated overall survival or progression-free survival benefits in three tumors -- specifically, advanced kidney cancer and unresectable liver cancer for Nexavar, and metastatic colorectal cancer for Stivarga.

  • Launching two new products this quarter, Onyx is truly differentiated as a company committed to improving cancer outcomes for patients in a variety of settings.

  • And now I'll turn the call over to Barb, who will give an update on our clinical program.

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • Thank you, Helen.

  • Let's start with our proteasome inhibitor franchise.

  • Our comprehensive development program is well underway to evaluate Kyprolis across all lines of therapy in multiple myeloma.

  • We have three ongoing global Phase 3 trials and are on track to initiate a fourth Phase 3 trial in frontline patients in the first half of next year.

  • For relapsed and refractory patients, as we recently announced, we completed patient enrollment in the FOCUS trial one quarter ahead of projections.

  • This randomized trial is being conducted under scientific advice from the EMA and is intended to support marketing approval outside of the United States and, importantly, to demonstrate a survival advantage with Kyprolis.

  • This study incorporates a planned interim analysis and depending on the rate of event accrual, it is possible that we could have top line results from an interim analysis as early as the second half of 2013.

  • Turning to ASPIRE, which has a primary endpoint of progression-free survival, we continue to monitor the accrual of events in this trial.

  • We are observing that patients are not progressing as rapidly as projected.

  • So, given the current rate of overall event accrual, we now expect results from an interim analysis could be available by the fourth quarter of 2013 or later.

  • While we await results for FOCUS and ASPIRE, we also are executing a head-to-head comparison strategy to evaluate Kyprolis's superiority versus Velcade.

  • To this end, we began enrollment in the Phase 3 ENDEAVOR study in mid-20112, to compare Kyprolis in combination with low-dose dexamethasone to Velcade with low-dose dexamethasone in 880 patients.

  • In addition, we plan to initiate a second head-to-head comparison trial of Kyprolis versus Velcade in the first half of 2013, this trial in the frontline setting.

  • Finally, with an objective of covering the multiple myeloma treatment landscape, we are also advancing the development of our oral proteasome inhibitor, oprozomib.

  • We have completed additional formulation work for this compound and are introducing a tablet rather than the powder and capsule formulation into the ongoing Phase 1b/2 trial this month.

  • We look forward to presenting the early stage safety and efficacy data from the powder and capsule formulation at the ASH meeting in December.

  • In fact, at ASH this year, we are excited that we will have seven oral presentations including both Company-sponsored and investigator-sponsored trial data for both Kyprolis and oprozomib.

  • The oprozomib data with the split dose regimen in hematologic malignancies was accepted as an oral presentation, and there will be six additional oral presentations on Kyprolis.

  • Turning our attention to the kinase inhibitor franchise, Onyx and Bayer expect to report top line results from the Phase 3 DECISION study in differentiated thyroid cancer patients before the end of the year, potentially providing a new indication opportunity for Nexavar.

  • If the data are favorable, we would quickly pursue a supplemental regulatory submission for Nexavar in what would be a third potential indication.

  • And in the advanced breast cancer setting, we expect to complete patient enrollment in the Phase 3 RESILIENCE trial in the first half of next year.

  • Moving to Stivarga, we recently announced that Bayer received priority review based on its supplemental NDA for a second potential indication in the gastrointestinal stromal tumors, which was submitted in August of this year.

  • So, with the ongoing Phase 3 trials across our portfolio and for both franchises, we look forward to multiple data readouts with the goal of potentially benefiting even more patients with cancer.

  • I'll now turn the call over to Matt.

  • Matt Fust - EVP, CFO

  • Thank you, Barb.

  • I'll begin my comments today with Kyprolis.

  • As a reminder, we are currently recognizing Kyprolis net sales revenue upon shipment to clinics and hospitals under the sell-through method of revenue recognition.

  • During third quarter, $19 million was recognized as net sales on our P&L, and $5 million of Kyprolis shipment to distributors was recorded as deferred revenue on the September 30, 2012 balance sheet.

  • Upon shipment to clinics and hospitals, this deferred revenue will be recorded as net sales after applying the gross-to-net adjustment.

  • Cost of goods sold for the third quarter 2012 was approximately 3% of Kyprolis net sales.

  • Because the majority of cost is associated with third quarter Kyprolis sales have been charge to R&D expense in previous periods, gross margin in the third quarter and in the early quarters of the launch will not be representative of our expectations for steady stayed gross margins.

  • During the launch period we currently expect the gross-to-net sales adjustment to be 15% on average, with quarter-to-quarter variability.

  • The adjustment to gross Kyprolis sales revenue in the third quarter was approximately 17%.

  • Gross-to-net sales adjustment accounts for chargebacks and rebates under government programs, our reserve for estimated product returns and replacements, fees paid to distributors, and other factors that may change as we gain more experience with Kyprolis in the market.

  • Let me call your attention to two items in our financial statements triggered by the approval of Kyprolis.

  • First, a noncash expense associated with the amortization of Kyprolis-related intangible assets which were recorded on the balance sheet at the time of the prophylaxis acquisition in 2009, is shown as a new line item on our P&L.

  • Amortization expense was $4 million in third quarter 2012, and is expected to total approximately $10 million for full year 2012.

  • This noncash expense is excluded from our calculation of non-GAAP net loss.

  • Related to this amortization, a tax benefit was recorded o the P&L in the third quarter to recognize the resulting deferred tax asset.

  • This one time noncash benefit, approximately $95 million, is also excluded from our calculation of non-GAAP net loss.

  • Turning to our kinase inhibitor franchise, Nexavar global net sales excluding Japan, were $208 million in third quarter 2012.

  • After taking into account an 11% erosion in the dollar/Euro exchange rate compared to third quarter 2011, Nexavar net sales increased approximately 6% with growth from the US, Asia-Pacific, and Latin America.

  • Year-to-date, Nexavar sales excluding Japan have grown 4% compared to the first three quarters of 2011, and sales growth year-to-date is 9% on a currency-neutral basis.

  • Nexavar collaboration revenue was $71 million in third quarter 2012, and commercial margin expanded to 64% in third quarter 2012, and 63% for 2012 to date.

  • Onyx's 20% royalty on global net sales of Stivarga is being reported on a separate line item on our P&L.

  • In third quarter 2012, Stivarga royalty revenue of $131,000 was based on a single day of sales by Bayer following the US approval at the end of September.

  • Non-GAAP net R&D expense of $83 million in third quarter 2012 was primarily driven by continued investment in Kyprolis.

  • Third quarter expense included Kyprolis trial and clinical drug supply expenses for three ongoing Phase 3 clinical trials -- ASPIRE, FOCUS and ENDEAVOR.

  • In the first half of next year we plan to initiate a fourth Phase 3 study in frontline multiple myeloma patients.

  • Third quarter 2012 non-GAAP net R&D expense also included Onyx's share of Nexavar development expense as well as our earlier stage oprozomib development program.

  • Non-GAAP selling, general and administrative expense was $55 million for third quarter 2012.

  • Growth in SG&A expense primarily reflects the cost of our expanded US commercial infrastructure and the associated marketing support for Kyprolis.

  • We ended the quarter with $573 million in cash and investments, which, together with cash flow from Nexavar, continue to support the critical strategic investments in our proteasome inhibitor franchise.

  • We have no updates to the 2012 financial guidance we have previously provided, and we are not providing additional financial guidance at this time.

  • Our 2012 financial guidance is included in the slides posted on our website in connection with today's announcement of results.

  • And I'll now turn the call back over to Tony.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Well, there you have it, a quarter with a number of remarkable achievements, and building on this year of signature accomplishments, we expect continued momentum with upcoming commercial, regulatory and clinical milestones.

  • Specifically, in the months ahead we look forward to the following.

  • First, continuing the launches of Kyprolis and Stivarga in the United States; second, advancing the global Phase 3 development programs for Kyprolis across all lines of treatment including two head-to-head trials versus Velcade; third, presenting data for Kyprolis and oprozomib at ASH, and advancing our all proteasome inhibitor program with the new formulation of oprozomib; fourth, reporting Nexavar top line clinical trial results in thyroid cancer later this quarter; and, finally, updating Bayer's progress with global regulatory and clinical milestones for Stivarga Operator, we'll now open the call to questions.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from Cory Kasimov of JPMorgan.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Cory Kasimov - Analyst

  • Good afternoon, guys.

  • Great job with all the recent progress and the strong commercial start for Kyprolis.

  • Two questions to kick it off here.

  • First, just wanted to confirm that you said the ASPIRE interim is now anticipated in the fourth quarter of 2013 or later.

  • I guess, do you have a sense of why events are accruing slower than expected?

  • Or maybe asked another way, how consistent is the PFS data for the Rev/dex combination in this setting in the literature?

  • And then my second question is on dosing for Kyprolis, and I'm wondering if you're finding in the real world if docs are sticking to the initial label or pushing two doses that you're using in some of these ongoing clinical studies?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, thanks, Cory.

  • I'm actually going to ask Barb to take the first question regarding ASPIRE.

  • You did hear correctly that the results would be 4Q13 or later, and I'll ask Barb to provide some color commentary, and then, Helen, if you could take the dose question of our early observation in the market.

  • Barb?

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • Thanks, Tony.

  • So, you asked the question, we are tracking later than anticipated.

  • These are event-driven analyses, so highly dependent on the rate of progression.

  • But only information we have is the pooled information, so we cannot speculate as to the reason.

  • As you mentioned, the Rev/dex literature has been published.

  • We used in our initial projections the data that's been presented in New England Journal, and it could -- we basically are going to continue to look at event progression rates over time.

  • The FOCUS data is a survival endpoint, and as we completed enrollment, we are now looking forward to the next milestone, which is interim data.

  • So, we also talked today about the survival data being available in the second half of 2013 based on an interim analysis for that study.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • And I think, Cory and everyone else, this is just reflective of what happens with event-based trials.

  • Some of the move up, some of them move back.

  • The key here is that we're monitoring them as carefully and as closely as we possibly can, and we will bring you updates as need to.

  • But we are encouraged with the possibility of focused data potentially earlier on the basis of an interim readout.

  • Helen, how about the dosing question?

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • Yes, Cory, thanks for that question.

  • With regard to the dosing and actually the general use of Kyprolis, what we're seeing is it is predominantly being used according to our label indication.

  • So, the dose is according to the label starting at 20 and titrating to 27, and the population that is being studied are patients who have previously received bortezomib and an IMiD, and who are progressing on or within 60 days of their last therapy.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, Operator, we'll take the next question.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Rachel McMinn of Bank of America.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Rachel McMinn - Analyst

  • Yes, my congratulations as well.

  • Two questions.

  • If you could comment at all about how to think about this bolus.

  • You talked a lot about a lot of early ordering, which you would expect given all the unmet need out there.

  • So, when we think about oncology launches, we tend to see early boluses.

  • Is that going to continue into October?

  • I mean, it looks like on the math here that there is over 1,000 patients that started in September.

  • And then just separately I was hoping you could maybe narrow down the frontline head-to-head study for Velcade that you mentioned.

  • Is this going to -- are you going to be waiting for 020 data from Celgene to come out or are you going to just forge ahead with an MP-based study design?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay.

  • Helen, would you take the question on October sales and what we're observing?

  • And then Barb and I will comment on the frontline study.

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • Thanks.

  • With regard to, certainly in August, what we did see was the early access program and also that the anticipation for the launch amongst physicians and patients, we certainly did see a bolus of patients.

  • In September, however, as we had the representatives begin to call on a broader set of clinics and hospitals, we saw new adopters come onboard every week.

  • So, we believe that the early bolus was certainly present, but the performance that we saw in September reflected a more general rate of run of physicians learning more about Kyprolis and beginning to adopt.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • And obviously we can't comment on October sales on this particular call, but I think it's especially noteworthy that, as Helen said, we have new adopters coming onboard, and we've only reached about 10% of the target population through September.

  • So, we do expect continued steady adoption both by practices as well as in terms of the penetration in this total patient population.

  • So, I think good things ahead.

  • In terms of the frontline study, we have not talked about the design just yet, but as we have done with other trials, notably, the ENDEAVOR study, we did want some certain set of key milestones to pass so we really understand how to design these studies.

  • And so the 020 data will be important as we think about the best design for the trial, and we'll keep you very close to what the design is for that frontline study.

  • But we're very excited about getting this underway.

  • There are very encouraging Phase 2 data to support this, and stay tuned for more details.

  • Next question, Operator?

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Jim Birchenough from BMO Capital.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Jim Birchenough - Analyst

  • Hi, guys.

  • Let me add my congratulations.

  • Just a couple of questions.

  • Just on the initial launch, to start with, with Kyprolis.

  • What kind of discontinuation rates are you seeing in patients treated?

  • And then the second question, just a reminder on the ASPIRE study, is Revlimid in the control arm being dosed to progression, i.e.

  • maintenance, or is it dosed for just an induction period?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay.

  • I think it's probably too early, Helen, and you can comment if necessary.

  • It's probably too early for us, Jim, to talk about discontinuation for Kyprolis.

  • Helen is nodding her head yes, so I think that's the answer on that one.

  • And then Barb, comment a little bit, if you can, about the dosing for Revlimid in ASPIRE.

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • I'll quickly say that we are dosing Revlimid to progression.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, perfect.

  • Operator, we'll take the next question.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Gene Mack from Brean Capital.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Gene Mack - Analyst

  • Hey, thanks for taking my question.

  • Two real quick ones.

  • Just on the second, I guess, frontline, head-to-head trials that you're planning, can you talk about what dose you might be considering for Kyprolis in that study, or what your thoughts are around how you're planning dose patients with Kyprolis in that setting?

  • And then just since we've heard that there is use already of Kyprolis in combination with Revlimid, how are you -- are you having help clinicians with that in terms of payers?

  • Is there any sort of hoops that need to be gone through in order to get reimbursement there?

  • How is that being worked out at this point?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, thanks, Gene.

  • On the design for the first line study, I know there is a lot of interest in that, and we do hope to bring details very shortly, both once protocols are finalized and we have first patient in.

  • What I can tell you is that the dose is likely to be somewhere between the 20/27 dose that we're using today as per the label, and the 56 milligrams per meter squared, which is a dosing that we are using in ENDEAVOR.

  • Through the dose response studies we've conducted, we find this to be the most effective range and we will be finalizing the details around the specific dose for the frontline study, but it will clearly be within the parameters of either 20/27 or 20/56, which is the dosing schedule for ENDEAVOR.

  • And then, Helen, in terms of Kyprolis and Revlimid?

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • Yes, as I mentioned, our information is that Kyprolis is predominantly being used in the indicated population as a single agent.

  • Certainly we were aware of anecdotes where physicians are not using it according to the label.

  • Our team are solely focused in promoting the product according to the label and the label indications, so we're not involved with physicians who are electing to use the product not according to our label.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Good.

  • Thank you, Helen.

  • Next question, Operator?

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Howard Liang of Leerink Swann.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Rene Shen - Analyst

  • Hi.

  • This is Rene Shen for Howard Liang.

  • Can you talk about the oprozomib data that we'll see at ASH?

  • Are we going to see the tablet form of that data, and if not, when will we see that data?

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Barb, do you mind taking that one?

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • That's right.

  • The tablet will just be introduced into the clinic this month, so, no, the ASH data will be powder and capsule, but we'll have both safety as well as efficacy data from the initial dose escalation cohorts from the prior formulation.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • And I will just underscore that I think everyone knows this is a study in hematologic malignancy patients, but there is a pretty healthy sampling of myeloma patients as well.

  • So, we'll be able to break out some of the instance of myeloma patients by safety and efficacy as well as overall, so stay tuned for that.

  • Operator, we'll take the next question.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Chris Raymond of Robert W. Baird.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Laura Chico - Analyst

  • Good afternoon.

  • This is Laura Chico in for Chris Raymond.

  • Recognizing it's early days for Kyprolis, curious, have you seen the move to subcutaneous Velcade impact Kyprolis uptake or the mix maybe between Velcade and Revlimid in the earlier lines of treatment?

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Helen?

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • So, our focus is obviously on promoting Kyprolis in our indicated population as a single agent.

  • I think your other question is what is the use of Velcade as subcutaneous, and I can say that the majority of the market is now using Velcade as subcutaneous, but that is given our indication, not impacting us.

  • Before Kyprolis was approved there as no standard of care for patients who had previously been treated with bortezomib and an IMiD and were progressing.

  • And so Kyprolis fills that unmet need today.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Very good.

  • Thank you.

  • Next question, Operator?

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Robyn Karnauskas of Deutsche Bank.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Robyn Karnauskas - Analyst

  • Hi, guys.

  • Thanks for taking my question.

  • Just quickly, on oprozomib, maybe if you could give us some thoughts on whether or not you think you'll be able to quickly progress from Phase 1 to Phase 3, like MILLENNIUM and maybe potential timelines?

  • And, second, are insurers for Kyprolis requesting any proof of progression on [bel/rev] or progression within 60 days?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay.

  • I think with regards to the oprozomib question, Barb, I'd ask you to give some color commentary.

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • So, our current ongoing study is a Phase 1/2, which means that our intent is to do the dose-finding with dose escalation to maximum tolerated dose, identify the optimal dosing schedule, and then to expand in Phase 2 as efficiently as we can utilizing that same study.

  • So, our current plan is Phase 1, Phase 2, before we move into Phase 3.

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • And with regard to the coverage policies for Kyprolis, where there are prior authorizations in place or they're asking for additional documentation, that generally has taken the form of a simple form where the physician is asked to affirm that the patient has previously received bortezomib and an IMiD and is now progressing.

  • So, the physician just affirms that and obviously has documentation in their case records to indicate that's the case.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • All right.

  • Next question.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Biren Amin of Jefferies.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Biren Amin - Analyst

  • Yes, congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking my questions.

  • First of all on the CMAP patients that converted, what's the average treatment duration of these 110 patients?

  • Second, on Onyx 360, it seems like it's a pretty generous co-pay assistance program, so I just want to see or if you could share maybe with us the percentage of patients treated so far that have benefited from the co-pay assistance?

  • And, third, on Nexavar resilience.

  • Is it still on track for enrollment finishing in first half '13?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, Biren, thank you.

  • Thank you for the warm well wishes as well.

  • Helen, can you make some commentary around the CMAP conversion?

  • There may not be enough data, but what can you provide additionally?

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • I'm looking at Barbara.

  • In terms of the duration of therapy for the CMAP, Barb, I don't know if you've got any of the specifics as to how long that group of patients been on.

  • I would imagine it was a shorter duration because it was probably the more recently enrolled patients, but, Barb, any specifics?

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • Well, I will just say we don't have specifics today, but the trial of CMAP was conducted within development organization as a clinical trial, and of course we'll collect all of that data and we will be reporting that data.

  • Much of the patients who were still on therapy, of course, at the time that they convert to commercial drug are then off trial.

  • So, we'll have some data in the future, but not a lot.

  • I expect there will be very clearly -- the patients that came into the CMAP, which was rigorously defined exactly like the 003A1 clinical study are likely to reflect the 003A1 clinical study pretty closely.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Where the treatment duration was 4.5 months on average, so just to remind everyone.

  • And then while you've got the floor, Barbara, if you could address the RESILIENCE breast cancer trial?

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • That's right.

  • It is on track.

  • The enrollment is going well.

  • We're at a very steady state right now with a projection of completion in the first half of 2013.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Good.

  • And thyroid in this quarter, before the end of the year.

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • This quarter, yes.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Very good.

  • And then, Helen, do you want to talk a little bit about how Onyx 360 works?

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • Yes.

  • We've seen some robust enrollment in Onyx 360 to date.

  • The commonest reasons for patients signing up for Onyx 360 are insurance verification, co-pay assistance, as you mentioned, but also for referrals to transportation assistance.

  • Of the three, I would say co-pay assistance is the minority of patients at this time, of the launch.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Terrific.

  • Operator, we will have the next question.

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Jeff Borges of Bernadine.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Jeff Borges - Analyst

  • Thanks very much for the question and congratulations, guys, for a lot accomplished this quarter.

  • I'd like to ask a question, Helen, just to hear your accent a little bit more, but unfortunately I'll have to ask a couple of accounting questions.

  • Could you remind us of when we should expect to see full cost of goods for Kyprolis and what range we should be anticipating?

  • And, secondly, without sort of inducing you to give premature guidance, it looks as though by the end of the year you'll be probably at the high end of your guidance for R&D and low end of the guidance for SG&A.

  • And just could you confirm whether we're on the right track there?

  • And then lastly, have you sort of pretty much absorbed all the incremental SG&A you need for these launches?

  • Is this where we should be sort of basing ourselves as we think forward, or with there only a partial quarter, will there be another step up at the end of the year?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, good.

  • Matt, I'll ask you to take both of those, in your best Scottish accent, right.

  • Matt Fust - EVP, CFO

  • First on the cost of goods question, it's not yet possible to specify over how many quarters we will be moving from the current cost of goods, which is below what we expect will be steady state toward a more steady state level.

  • We do expect it will occur over the course of several quarters.

  • And our expectation is that we would see typical gross margin as you would expect from a small molecule therapeutic as we had steady state.

  • With regard to R&D and SG&A guidance, first in the context of the research and development expense, you have now flowing through the R&D expense line three Phase 3 trials -- ASPIRE, FOCUS and ENDEAVOR, as it is ramping up enrollment.

  • ASPIRE and FOCUS obviously already fully enrolled, so we're moving on to looking at the ENDEAVOR enrollment and then into the frontline trial as we head into the beginning of next year, being partly offset by reduction in Nexavar research and development expenses, which we got early in the year, we expect should be 10% to 15% lower in 2012 than in 2013.

  • On the selling, general and administrative front, I think probably the best thing to point you to is the increase in SG&A expense guidance that we have offered on our second quarter earnings call that was intended to reflect for the 2012, but in particular in the second half of 2012, the increment in sales and marketing costs associated with US commercial launch in support for Kyprolis.

  • So, I think as we look at run rates in the third and fourth quarter of this year, that should give a good launching off point for what we expect will be the bulk of the US commercial infrastructure support.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, very good.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator, we will have the next question.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Ryan Martin of Lazard Capital Markets.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Ryan Martin - Analyst

  • Hi.

  • My congrats on the quarter, too.

  • Just a couple of questions.

  • The first one is on the $5 million deferred revenue.

  • Matt, did I hear you say previously on another call that these inventories in the channel are held for approximately just a couple of days?

  • Just wanted to confirm that.

  • And then the other question was on the once-weekly study that's initiated with Kyprolis.

  • Can you give us some color on the strategic reasons for that study and how those doses may [create] to the twice weekly?

  • Matt Fust - EVP, CFO

  • So, this is Matt.

  • First on the deferred revenue.

  • Let me just do quick level set again on our approach to the channel.

  • So, we did report $19 million in net sales in Q3.

  • That reflects those Kyprolis files that have already been shipped to hospitals and clinics.

  • The $5 million of deferred revenue that you referred to reflects Kyprolis shipments that have been made to our specialty distributors but have not yet, as of September 30, been shipped out to hospitals and clinics.

  • That deferred revenue will be recognized as net sales revenue as it is shipped on to hospitals and clinics.

  • What we're seeing is what we expected, that with effectively just in time delivery of Kyprolis from our specialty distributors to the hospitals and clinics who administer it, we do not expect and are not seeing any significant inventory level being held at the hospitals and clinics.

  • And then on the once-weekly study, Barb, if you could give us a little bit of color?

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • Yes, absolutely.

  • We are very interested in learning more about alternative dosing schedules for Kyprolis.

  • This study that you mention recently came on to clintrials.gov because it was recently activated.

  • This is a Phase 2 study.

  • It is being conducted as a multicenter collaborative effort.

  • We're working closely with a consortium of clinical research, clinical community-based centers.

  • And it is a study where we will identify first the optimal dose when given weekly.

  • We are proceeding with the 30-minute infusion, but as you can imagine, 56 milligrams may not be where we end up for the best tolerable dose when given once a week.

  • So, we will do some dose escalation cohorts initially to see if we actually could deliver a higher dose than 56.

  • Then we'll do the Phase 2 expansion again in the multicenter collaborative consortium of sites that we're working with.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Good.

  • Thank you.

  • Next question, please?

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Ling Wang of Summer Street Research Partners.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Ling Wang - Analyst

  • Thank you for taking my question and my congratulations on the progress as well.

  • A couple of questions.

  • First one is with regard to the anecdotal Kyprolis combination use.

  • I was wondering whether you can comment on whether the payers can monitor whether the drug is used as a single agent or in combination setting once they provide preauthorization.

  • And secondly, you mentioned there are seven oral presentations at ASH this year.

  • Can you provide some color on that?

  • Then, lastly, what is the current projections of when Kyprolis will get the product-specific reimbursement code?

  • Thank you.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, thank you, Ling, very much.

  • In terms of Kyprolis, it's actually quite different for payers or for the Company, for that matter, to track whether the use is single therapy use or in combination, so we don't really have any perspective on that one.

  • And then I think Barb, if you could talk a little bit about ASH?

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • It's only a few days that ASH will on their website present the information, so I don't want to get ahead of the ASH announcement.

  • Seven oral, so one is the company-sponsored oprozomib study, the Phase 1 efficacy safety data.

  • The Kyprolis 6 orals, both a mix of investigator-sponsored data as well as some of our own Phase 2 Kyprolis information.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • And then just finally, Ling, the permanent J-code should be available in January of 2014.

  • These operate on a cycle, prescribed by the federal government, and we expect permanent J-codes in that timing.

  • Next question, Operator?

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Stephen Wiley of Stifel Nicolaus.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Stephen Wiley - Analyst

  • Hi.

  • Thanks, and my congratulations as well.

  • Just with respect to a follow-up on the expanded access program, can you maybe just provide a little bit of color with respect to the duration of conversion it took to transition these patients over to commercial product?

  • Because I think on the post-approval call you had indicated there were approximately 300 patients or so that were involved in the program.

  • It sounds like about 110 got converted, so I'm just kind of curious as to the kinetics of that transition.

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, good.

  • Barb?

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • We worked very closely with our Onyx 360 colleagues and others to have a plan in place before the date of approval.

  • So, we were able to do quite quickly.

  • The vast majority of these patients converted in the month of August.

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • And just to clarify, we had enrolled just over 300 patients in this CMAP program.

  • At the time of approval, that number had reduced significantly, had patients that either progressed or stopped therapy or unfortunately died, so we were able to convert the vast majority of patients who were still on the CMAP program at the time of approval, and that resulted in the 110 patients we mentioned.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Very good.

  • Next question, Operator.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Salveen Richter of Canaccord.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Salveen Richter - Analyst

  • Thanks for taking my questions.

  • Just wondering with the 2,000 centers that you are targeting, what percentage are the initial high volume in EAP centers, and how does that overlap with the 1,000 centers that have placed orders?

  • And then, also, just wondering if there is any difference between use in feedback from the academic versus the community docs for Kyprolis.

  • Thank you.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Helen?

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • Yes.

  • Salveen, I don't have the specifics on what number were CMAP patients, but let me just give you a little color of the target accounts.

  • So, of the 2,000, we were targeting about 30% were hospital based and about 70% (inaudible).

  • As we look at where the volume of prescribing is coming from, it is slightly skewed to having more orders coming in from the hospital base, but we've got a good representation of adoption across both hospital and community-based accounts.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, thank you.

  • Next question.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Marshall Urist of Morgan Stanley.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Marshall Urist - Analyst

  • Hey, guys.

  • My congrats as well.

  • So, just a few questions for me.

  • Number one, maybe just a follow-up on that last question about the 2,000 accounts.

  • Helen, first of all, what are you seeing in terms of sort of a prevalence pool?

  • I know you alluded to this in the prepared remarks of patients who are awaiting another option in terms of per accounts or anything like that, in terms of what you're seeing in terms of that group of patients.

  • And then, second, what's the plan for the sales force in getting out to the other 50% of accounts and actually seeing them and how you guys are thinking about how that will develop over the next few months.

  • And if you could tell us what China Nexavar revenue was in the quarter, that would be helpful.

  • And then, lastly, just on ASPIRE, I was just curious, I know you're not going to talk about the baseline characteristics in detail, but as you think about the pace of events, I'm just curious, is the mix of patients in terms of treatment history, either their Revlimid treatment history or Velcade history, did the final mix of patients kind of, was that in line with your expectations when you designed this study?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay.

  • Let me just handle the China Nexavar question really quickly.

  • For the third quarter, sales in China were $27 million, and that compares favorably to the second quarter of this year, where sales were $24.5 million, and to the third quarter of last year, where they were $21.4 million.

  • So, a very nice run rate there for China.

  • And then if you can, Helen, take the target account question, and then, Barb, I'll ask you to comment on ASPIRE.

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • Let me start -- we have 100 field personnel that we talked about at the time of approval, and I can actually say that they have virtually all of the accounts now, but 1,000 had ordered by the end of the third quarter, which is what we are reporting.

  • As you can imagine, we do see a range of numbers of eligible patients from the top tier accounts to some of the smaller community accounts, but we haven't given those specifics.

  • But clearly that's why at the initial launch we focused on those accounts where we knew we had the majority of Kyprolis indicated patients, and that's where we are continuing to spend the majority of our time.

  • However, we want to make sure every physician has got patients who may be eligible for Kyprolis is educated and aware about the appropriate use of Kyprolis.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, terrific.

  • And Barb?

  • Barb Klencke - SVP-Clinical Development

  • So, you are certainly absolutely right, that the baseline characteristics of a trial can influence outcome.

  • We believe, though, that the enrollment criteria were written in such a way that it's very similar to the published literature on Revlimid/dexamethasone and as we are enrolling patients in a relapsed setting with one to three prior therapies.

  • We're not going to speak at all to any baseline characteristics of what we are seeing in the clinical trials.

  • Not doing those analyses, we really focused on maintaining the integrity of an ongoing Phase 3 trial at this point in time and just looking purely at event rates at this point.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, very good.

  • Next question, Operator?

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Ying Huang of Barclays.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Unidentified Participant

  • Hi.

  • This is [Arlinda] on behalf of Ying.

  • Could you guys please comment on maybe the frequency of dosing that you're seeing with Kyprolis, as well on the upcoming FDA decision for pomalidomide?

  • And if you're hearing anything from your accounts on this as well?

  • Thank you.

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • I can comment on the dosing being consistent with the label.

  • That is what our field team, our focus in educating physicians on beginning at 20 and up titrating if indicted to 27 milligrams per meter squared.

  • With regard to upcoming new product approval, we're not going to speculate and we can't speculate on whether and when any other products would be approved.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Next question?

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Phil Nadeau of Cowen and Company.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Phil Nadeau - Analyst

  • Hi.

  • Thanks for taking my questions.

  • As I think about modeling Kyprolis, I just wanted to ask you again to follow-up on Rachel's question of this idea of bolus versus more (inaudible) levels in September.

  • Before I do anything crazy with my numbers, could you give me some idea of what Kyprolis was selling at in September, understanding that it's going to grow off that base in future quarters.

  • And then two related questions.

  • When do you expect to give Kyprolis guidance?

  • What do you need to see before you feel comfortable guiding, and what type of peak penetration do you think Kyprolis could ultimately achieve in a third-line setting?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • I'll handle the guidance question and leave the other two to Helen.

  • I think we've learned from best practices of other companies that we really do need a solid track record of experience with a products performance in the marketplace.

  • I think we've got, or at least we're reporting today about eight weeks' worth of data.

  • So, it's clearly too early for us to give Kyprolis guidance, and I think we're going to watch the progress of what so far has been a very exciting launch for us before we commit to when we might provide guidance.

  • So, do stay tuned, Phil.

  • I know everyone wants guidance all the time, but we really want to make sure that when we do provide any information it's to the best of our knowledge and our ability.

  • Helen, can you take the other two questions, how they should think about modeling Kyprolis?

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • Yes.

  • Let me start with peak shares.

  • As we mentioned on the call, we estimate that in September, eight weeks into the approval -- into the launch, we had achieved about 10% share of the third line plus population.

  • As a reminder, this is a population who has no standard of care today.

  • Patients may get a recycled earlier treatment they have, they may get a novel combination, and so we do think there is significant room for growth in terms of market share, although we haven't provided our view on that.

  • But we are 10% today and we do see that being significantly higher because the patients have limited other options.

  • With regard to the sales in September, we haven't traditionally broken down sales on a monthly basis.

  • But I do think, if you think about the number of patients that converted from the CMAP program is about 110 patients.

  • You can do the math to estimate, that was probably between 10% to 15% of the patients in the quarter, if that helps you at all.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, very good.

  • Operator, I think we've got just time enough for two final questions, and we'll move through them quickly, please.

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our next question comes from Terence Flynn of Goldman Sachs.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Terence Flynn - Analyst

  • Hi.

  • Thanks for taking my question, and my congrats as well.

  • Can you just let us know, in terms of the 10% market share that you're using, what's the denominator that you guys are using in that.

  • Is it somewhere between the 10,000 to 15,000 patients?

  • And then second question, just remind us in terms of EU filing, do you think FOCUS data is going to be enough to get a European approval?

  • Thanks.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay.

  • On FOCUS, very quickly, I think the answer is yes.

  • This is actually a result of several conversations with the EMA, and it is an overall survival study.

  • So, importantly, it's one of the last times probably an overall survival study can be done in this population, so we think it's valuable, it's registration-worthy, and are really, as we mentioned earlier, very excited about not just completion of enrollment but the potential interim readout in the second half of next year.

  • And then, Helen, with regard to the penetration, patient penetration.

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • Yes.

  • As we look at our addressable population, is the 10,000 to 15,000 patients who had previously received bortezomib and an IMiD are progressing.

  • So, our estimate 10% comes from our estimates of how many new patient starts we had in the third quarter.

  • And also triangulated with some (inaudible) data that suggests that's the market share as well.

  • So, a couple of sources triangulating, but clearly these are estimates and as we get more weeks of data, we're going to continue to refine that.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Okay, next and final question, Operator?

  • Operator

  • Thank you.

  • Our last question comes from Jim Birchenough of BMO Capital.

  • Please go ahead.

  • Jim Birchenough - Analyst

  • Hi, guys.

  • Just a couple of quick ones.

  • First, once this call is done we're all going to go back to tracking IMS data to the extent we can, so just wondering if you can comment on how well that's tracking with what you're seeing?

  • And then I guess the second part is, as you think about converting the 50% of docs that have used it versus the 50% that you want to use Kyprolis, could you talk about your peer-to-peer selling efforts?

  • Do you have a speakers' bureau and how quickly is that growing?

  • When will they start launching programs?

  • Helen Torley - EVP, CCO

  • All right.

  • With regard to the IMS/Wolters Kluwer data, as you know, all distributors are reporting or do report this data and so it isn't expected to provide complete information.

  • And as you can tell at the moment, from what's being reported and what we're reporting, there is a gap between those two.

  • So, it's not going to be a reliable way to track the Kyprolis performance.

  • With regard to the peer-to-peer program, we do have a speaker program up and running.

  • We have already completed a number of programs, and we are continuing to add to that speaker bureau as physicians gain experience with Kyprolis and express an interest in participating in our peer-to-peer education.

  • Tony Coles - President, CEO

  • Well, guys, I think that's all the time we have.

  • I will say this in closing.

  • Looking back on the quarter, these achievements really are unprecedented in the history of Onyx, and remarkable for any biotech company.

  • We fully believe we are well on our way to becoming a leading biopharmaceutical company, the kind of company our team envisioned a few short years ago when we put this strategy in place, and we fully expect to carry this momentum forward both into the fourth quarter and into 2013.

  • So, thank you for joining us today.

  • Thank you for your questions, and we will see you at ASH.

  • Take care.

  • Operator

  • Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

  • This concludes today's conference.

  • Thank you for participating.

  • You may now disconnect.