Ambarella Inc (AMBA) 2026 Q1 法說會逐字稿

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安霸 (Ambarella) 召開電話會議,討論其在邊緣 AI 產品推動下,於 2026 財年第一季度取得的強勁財務業績。公司報告稱,營收為 8,590 萬美元,非公認會計準則淨利潤為 300 萬美元。該公司對邊緣 AI 市場持樂觀態度,並計劃擴展其 SAM 並瞄準新的應用領域。

他們正專注於開發新晶片、投資機器人營運以及進軍新市場。儘管地緣政治存在不確定性,安霸仍專注於成長和正向自由現金流。

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  • Operator

  • Hello, everyone, and welcome to Ambarella's first quarter fiscal year 2026 earnings call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, this event is being recorded.

  • Now it's my pleasure to turn the call over to the Vice President, Corporate Development, Louis Gerhardy. The floor is yours.

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • Thank you, Carmen. Good afternoon and thank you for joining our first quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results conference call. On the call with me today is Dr. Fermi Wang, President and CEO; and John Young, CFO.

  • The primary purpose of today's call is to provide you with information regarding the results for our first quarter fiscal year 2026. The discussion today and the responses to your questions will contain forward-looking statements regarding our projected financial results, financial prospects, market growth, and demand for our solutions, among other things. These statements are based on currently available information and subject to risks, uncertainties, and assumptions.

  • Should any of these risks or uncertainties materialize or should our assumptions prove to be incorrect, our actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements. We are under no obligation to update these statements. These risks, uncertainties, and assumptions as well as other information on potential risk factors that could affect our financial results are more fully described in the documents we file with the SEC.

  • Before starting the call, I'd like to summarize our investor events scheduled for our second fiscal quarter. On June 3, we'll be participating in Bank of America's Technology Conference in San Francisco; June 17, we'll host Redburn Atlantic's West Coast Bus Tour in Santa Clara; June 18, we'll host Trivariate Research and NH Investment Securities Bus Tour in Santa Clara; and June 23 to 25, we'll be visiting Baltimore, Boston and New York City on a non-deal roadshow.

  • Access to our first quarter fiscal year 2026 results press release, transcripts, historical results, and SEC filings as well as a replay of today's call can be found on the Investor Relations page of our website. The content of today's call as well as the materials posted on our website are Ambarella's property and cannot be reproduced or transcribed without our prior written consent.

  • Fermi will now provide a business update for the quarter. John will review the financial results and outlook, then we'll be available for your questions. Fermi?

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Thank you, Louis, and good afternoon. Thank you for joining us for our call today. We had an excellent start to the year with the first quarter revenue of $85.9 million, to the upper half of our guidance due to the continued strength in our edge AI business. Both our 5 nanometer CV5 and CV7 product family as well as our 10-nanometer CV2 product families contributed to the revenue growth, and our average selling price continued to increase as we capture more value per design win.

  • Edge AI revenue, which we define as a product that integrates one of our proprietary deep learning AI accelerators, was more than 75% of our Q1 revenue. And this represents the fourth consecutive quarter of record AI revenue. This achievement demonstrates the execution of our edge AI strategy in the face of a volatile market.

  • During the first quarter, IoT applications increased to mid-single digits sequentially and now represent about three-quarters of our total revenue with our automotive business declined low single digits sequentially, although automotive revenue was up more than 20% on a year-over-year basis.

  • In our February 26 earning call, we provided a fiscal 2026 revenue growth estimate in the mid- to high-teens or approximately $327 million to $339 million with some conservative built in to our second half outlook due to the geopolitical uncertainty. Although the geopolitical uncertainty remains high, we are increasing our fiscal 2026 revenue growth estimate to the range of 19% to 25% or approximately $348 million at the midpoint. While we continue to expect that we will not face a material direct impact from the current tariffs, given the uncertainty of an indirect impact, our larger-than-normal range of guidance reflects our conservatism.

  • We are confident in the long-term drivers of our edge AI strategy, and the business remains fully intact. Multiple factors are driving our optimism for the edge AI market, including my recent discussions with customers, representative customer engagements, I will discuss later in the call, as well as evolution of our edge AI serviceable available market. Our SAM is comprised of more than 20 different automotive and IoT edge AI applications with a five-year compounded annual revenue growth rate in the high-teens, reaching almost $13 billion in fiscal 2031.

  • In the past, a vast majority of our revenue and our SAM opportunity originated from the edge endpoint market, all the terminal device in the network. But our new analysis indicate SAM expansion in the edge infrastructure or the layer of a network where data from multiple endpoints is aggregated and the incremental advanced AI features and services such as multi-modal vision-language model -- vision language and reasoning models can be supported.

  • We are already addressing the edge infrastructure market with the N1 family, and we are now developing a new AI SoC product family to enhance our edge AI infrastructure roadmap. By leveraging the silicon architecture and software investment in low-power and scalable third-generation AI accelerator, we are able to efficiently extend our reach. Over the next few quarters, we will be describing some of the edge infrastructure applications we are targeting in more detail.

  • In April, I attended the ISC West security show and met with key customers and partners. Ambarella demonstrated its leadership in GenAI at the edge with 18 product demonstrations, including the latest GenAI and the vision AI capabilities. And I was very pleased with the high level of customer interest and activities around our advanced AI products.

  • The demonstrations highlight Ambarella's ability to enable scalable, high-performance reasoning and vision AI applications, leveraging our third-generation AI accelerator, which now supports most of the leading GenAI models from 500 million to 34 billion parameters.

  • We demonstrated Deepseek GenAI models running on our products at three different price performance points, including CV75, CV7,2 and N1-655 processors. These demos, including advanced multi-stream video analysis, exemplify our -- how we are pushing the boundaries of real-time AI-powered security analytics by running state-of-the-art vision language models for both endpoint and on-prime infrastructure.

  • I will now talk about some of our customer product introductions during the quarter. During the quarter, a leading enterprise security camera company introduced two new products based on our CV72 offering very high resolution and advanced AI analytics. A third product, a wearable device supporting multiple modalities, was also introduced to the market. And this first-of-a-kind product is based on our S6LM video processor.

  • As I described earlier, we are seeing increased traction in the edge AI market beyond our core enterprise and whole security business. This quarter, IoT edge examples that demanded -- demanding our AI technology, including 360-degree portable video cameras, cyclist cameras, industrial automation, and enterprise video conferencing. In the portable video camera market, market leader Insta360 introduced its flagship model, the 360-degree X5 camera based on Ambarella's 5 nanometer CV5. The X5 offers 8K video with advanced AI-based image processing.

  • Also in the IoT market, Garmin announced its Varia Vue headlight camera for cyclists based on our H32 video processors. In the enterprise IoT industrial automation market, Huaray announced its R5000 series of machine vision code readers based on our third-generation AI accelerator. The 5 nanometer CV75 enables the system to read up to 90 codes per second.

  • Also in the enterprise IoT, Norway-based Huddly introduced a new category of multi-camera video conferencing products as the Integrated Systems Europe exhibition. Huddly's new C1 video bar is part of a collaboration with technology giant, Lenovo. And the advanced system is based on our 5 nanometer CV72 with 20 times the AI performance of previous generation systems.

  • In our automotive safety and ADAS business, this quarter, we are disclosing wins in China, Japan, Korea, and the US. A leading Japanese OEM will utilize our CV25 SoC in a data log application, with the CV25 supporting both secure viewing and data analytics. The project is supported by a major Tier 1 in Japan with production scheduled to begin this year. Also in Japan, another leading Japanese OEM is utilizing CV25 for a multi-camera system providing in-cabin recording and viewing functions with production scheduled for our current fiscal year.

  • During the second quarter, Zeekr introduced its 007 GT electric vehicle featuring an interactive intelligent B-pillar system with two cameras. Our CV28 enable access control based on face ID as well as incoming monitoring.

  • Thinkware, a leading South Korea provider of smart car information technologies, has entered production with Harmony, a dual camera recorder based on CV25 supporting ADAS features such as forward collision warning, then departure warning and security monitoring.

  • And in the commercial fleet telematics market, US-based RoadEazy introduced its RZ1 featuring a dual-view camera based on our CV25. The RZ1 capture clear road and cabin footage to improve fleet safety and accountability with integrated edge AI, identifying risks like distracted driving, phone usuage, or tailgating.

  • As you can see from this representative engagement, security remains an important growth market for us. But we are seeing opportunities in numerous other edge AI applications with customers in both the auto and IoT market evaluating and adopting our AI SoCs.

  • As many of you know, roughly five years ago, edge AI originated in an enterprise security camera market, and we were quick to lead the market. Today, we continue to lead the security edge AI market, and we are successfully leveraging our AI portfolio and the market know-how into new application verticals. In fact, security is less than half of our total revenue today, and today's announcement are just a subset of new edge AI application we see emerging.

  • Our investment in technology and products is driving today's revenue growth and our future revenue growth opportunities. Our edge AI products address the megatrends of safety and security, but also automation which enables end-user productivity to be improved and enables entirely new revenue streams across many markets. While it is still early, AI is finding its way to the edge is not just a data center or hyperscaler opportunity anymore.

  • Ambarella is the leader in edge AI with more than 32 million edge AI processors shipped on a cumulative basis. We are the established edge AI technology provider who is uniquely focused on -- focused and positioned for the rapidly evolving edge AI market. We continue the pace rapid innovation. Our product portfolio and road map are highly differentiated and offer the flexibility and scalability to target increasingly diverse applications. Both enterprise and consumer-driven markets and across edge endpoints as well as edge infrastructure.

  • As I wrap up today, I want to reiterate the important points we shared today; one, we delivered strong Q1 results with similar strengths projected into Q2; two, we increased our fiscal 2026 guidance while maintaining a conservative second half steps; three, our high-value, high-ASP products are seeing strong momentum; fourth, we have a strong SAM outlook with the new edge AI markets in development; five, we are an established edge AI market leader who's innovating at a rapid pace

  • Of course, the geopolitical uncertainty can be a distraction, but to deal with it, I feel it is important to remain agile and be prepared for short-term surprises and to focus on what we can control while most importantly continued investment in innovation and market development that is most critical for our success. Financially, while we have generated positive free cash flow for 16 consecutive years, our goal is to develop the technology products and the customers that result in positive earning leverage and growth in our free cash flow.

  • With that, John will now discuss the Q1 results and the Q2 outlook in more detail.

  • John Young - Chief Financial Officer

  • Thank you, Fermi. I'll now review the financial highlights for the first-quarter of fiscal year 2026, ending April 30, 2025. I will also provide a financial outlook for our second quarter of fiscal year 2026, ending July 31, 2025.

  • I will be discussing non-GAAP results and ask that you refer to today's press release for a detailed reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results. For non-GAAP reporting, we have eliminated stock-based compensation expense along with acquisition-related costs adjusted for the impact of taxes.

  • For fiscal Q1, revenue was $85.9 million, above the midpoint of our prior guidance range, up 2.2% from the prior quarter and up 57.6% year over year. Sequentially, automotive revenue declined in the low single digits and IoT increased in the mid-single digits.

  • Non-GAAP gross margin for fiscal Q1 was 62%, slightly above the midpoint of our prior guidance range due to a favorable product mix. Non-GAAP operating expense in Q1 was $51.8 million, slightly above the midpoint of our prior guidance range of $50 million to $53 million, due in part to higher engineering costs on new and existing chip development projects.

  • Q1 net interest and other income was $2.2 million. Comparing to our prior guidance of $1.8 million, the increase was primarily from higher other income. Q1 non-GAAP tax provision was approximately $600,000. We reported a non-GAAP net profit of $3 million or $0.07 of earnings per diluted share in Q1.

  • Now I will turn to our balance sheet and cash flow. Fiscal Q1 cash and marketable securities reached $259.4 million, increasing $9.1 million from the prior quarter and $56 million from the same quarter a year ago. Increased cash and marketable securities benefited primarily from working capital improvements associated with increased revenue during the quarter.

  • Receivables days sales outstanding decreased from 33 days in the prior quarter to 31 days, while days of inventory increased 1 day to 98 days. Compared to the prior quarter, our inventory dollars increased 14% to support our customers' strong demand outlook for our products. Operating cash inflow was $14.8 million for the quarter. Capital expenditures for tangible and intangible assets were $4.6 million for the quarter. Free cash flow was $10.2 million for the quarter.

  • During the second quarter of fiscal year 2026, Ambarella's Board of Directors approved an extension of the current share repurchase program for an additional 12 months ending June 30, 2026. During the first quarter, we purchased 24,152 shares of our stock for a total consideration of approximately $1 million. As of today, there's approximately $48 million available under our repurchase authorization. We had one logistics company representing 10% or more of our revenue. WT Microelectronics, a fulfillment partner in Taiwan that ships to multiple customers in Asia, came in at 63.1% revenue for the quarter.

  • I'll now discuss the outlook for the second-quarter of fiscal year 2026. Demand for our edge AI inference processors remain strong. We anticipate fiscal Q2 revenue in the range of $86 million to $94 million or $90 million at the midpoint. We expect mid-single-digit sequential revenue growth in IoT applications with auto revenue expected to be slightly up versus the prior quarter.

  • For fiscal 2026, we anticipate a revenue growth range of 19% to 25%. We expect fiscal Q2 non-GAAP gross margin to be in the range of 60.5% to 62%. We expect non-GAAP operating expenses in the second quarter to be in the range of $52.5 million to $55.5 million with the increase compared to Q1 driven by new product development costs, including a new AI SoC addressing the emerging IoT edge infrastructure opportunities described earlier by Fermi.

  • We also anticipate a weaker US dollar to have a moderately unfavorable impact on our operating expenses in the second quarter. We estimate net interest and other income to be approximately $1.8 million, our non-GAAP tax expense to be approximately $800,000 and our diluted share count to be approximately 42.6 million shares.

  • Thank you for joining our call today. And with that, I will turn the call over to the operator for questions.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Christopher Rolland, Susquehanna.

  • Christopher Rolland - Analyst

  • Congrats on the quarter. To get to your full year guide, I just want to make sure I get the moving parts right. It seems like we are taking up our numbers in the first half. But just looking at the sequential growth profile, it looks, at least versus prior that the back half, the sequentials are reduced versus our prior. And so I was just wondering has the growth profile actually changed?

  • Is this related to the tariff kind of pull-in that you commented on last quarter? So are we taking from the -- are we adding to the first half but taking from the second? Just what are the kind of moving parts in the growth profile for the year?

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Well, first of all, I don't think we are having concerns, at least our current annual guidance doesn't have any concerns about second half strength. What we -- if you look at, we extend the guidance range, if you look at the high end of the guidance range, we have regular seasonality and showing a strong second half growth. So it's really about the -- there's uncertainty about -- with the current geopolitical situation, and we want to build in some uncertainty in there.

  • So I think we have still high confidence about our second half growth. And with our visibility in Q3 and we are building up visibility in Q4, I think that -- I don't believe we're giving any signal that we have a weaker second half.

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • Chris, going into this -- this is Louis. Going into this call, I think the consensus was about 51% in the first half, 49% in the second half. And at the midpoint, I do think those percents changed much, but the dollar figures, I think in every quarter would probably be going up a bit. So it's another way to think about it.

  • But I'd point out also that if you're in the upper half of our guidance range, you'd probably end up with seasonality pretty close to normal. So it's really your call. We're just saying it's an uncertain environment. It could happen and play out a lot of different ways.

  • Christopher Rolland - Analyst

  • Fair enough. I know you don't guide a few quarters ahead, but would you expect October to be up seasonally? I know January is typically down. But is there any reason to think that October should be up overall?

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • I think we can help you with the shape, but as Fermi said, not the absolute numbers. And I think it's reasonable to think that would be a positive sequential number. And it's probably reasonable to expect Q4 to be down sequentially. That's what we can answer at this stage to shape, but not much more precision than that.

  • Operator

  • Tore Svanberg, Stifel.

  • Tore Svanberg - Analyst

  • Congratulations on the results. Fermi, you talked about edge infrastructure, and I'm sure this is something that you're going to continue to elaborate on. But could you just explain a little bit what you mean by that? Obviously, we're not talking about big AI clusters here. So yeah, if you could just add some color on what exactly you mean by introducing new products for edge infrastructure.

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Right. So I think if you look at how the device is being distributed on the top is really data center and cloud. On the bottom is really the edge endpoints, which is where we are having -- serving our customer. But now become -- it's become clear with so many different advanced AI models happening and you just cannot upgrade the end points faster enough, right, of course, that our customers continue to want to replace the endpoints with new products or new cameras that can run efficient advanced AI models.

  • But to upgrade the existing installed base, you can imagine that there is a -- you want to integrate multiple endpoints that already in the installed base and using a server or a AI box that can integrate all of those endpoints, video input and run this model on that box right? So that would be the easiest way to upgrade the installed base. And I think that's become a trend, it becomes obvious.

  • And among other things, this is just one early trend that we are seeing, and we believe that has momentum on that. And in the future, there will be many other on-prem servers, edge servers that can use our solution to.

  • Tore Svanberg - Analyst

  • Yeah. That's great color. And as my follow-up, I know your segment revenue is in IoT versus auto, but it sounds like non-camera IoT is really starting to proliferate here with IoT, industrial, enterprise wearables and so on and so forth. Is that business sort of approaching 10% of revenue? And will you potentially eventually split that out so that you don't just sort of have investors focus on the security camera part of the revenue?

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • A couple of things there, Tore, it's Louis. Most of our revenue today, the data is getting ingested by our AI accelerator through the lens of a camera, so that hasn't changed. Although we have said it's likely that, that becomes an incremental opportunity for us in the future, especially as we go into the edge infrastructure.

  • But Fermi made a comment in his script about security is an end market for us, and that's less than half of our revenue now. So now we're seeing very good growth. As you know, auto is around 25% of our revenue. And then in other IoT markets, we're starting to see solid growth there and adoption of AI in a wide variety of markets.

  • So everything is still ingesting data through the lens of the camera, but that probably changes in the future. And security is ground zero for us because that's where AI at the edge started. We led that market, and now we're leveraging that expertise and applying it to a lot of additional vertical applications.

  • Operator

  • Kevin Cassidy, Rosenblatt Securities.

  • Kevin Cassidy - Senior Analyst

  • I'll also congratulate you on great results. Speaking to those results, would you think with the strong product cycles that you're in, could there be a change in your seasonality maybe as the human interfaced devices become less relevant in your revenue?

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Yeah. You are asking about our CV products versus human viewing products?

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • Just a question with regard to whether our seasonality might be as much of an impact.

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Right. So I think for this year, I think with so many uncertainty on geopolitical situation, that seasonality is definitely a question mark for us. Although we are not saying there's no regular seasonality. We just say that we provide a much higher -- a much broader range for the annual guidance to indicate there's uncertainty on the second half. But I think there is definitely a scenario that no more seasonality can happen.

  • Kevin Cassidy - Senior Analyst

  • I see. And you've piqued our interest mentioning these new edge devices. These are all your transformer-based SoC?

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Transformer-based. Go ahead.

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • Yeah. I think the question was -- correct me if I'm wrong, Kevin. It was a little bit hard to hear you, on the edge infrastructure, do we expect that market to leverage our third-generation AI accelerator to a high degree. And the answer is yes.

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Yes. Obviously, because right now, the first -- we already announced N1-655 this year for that particular market. But we also understand the need for the customers who are going to build another chip for the family of the product so we can deliver a full -- a complete road map for the customer.

  • All of chips we are talking about today, still leveraging our third-generation CVflow architecture and the software to minimize our investment, but at the same time, provide a very competitive solution to -- in the market. And more importantly, I think as you know, that third-generation architecture can really do all of the advanced AI models based on transformers.

  • Operator

  • Joe Moore, Morgan Stanley.

  • Joseph Moore - Analyst

  • As you talk about these kind of edge AI focus, I guess, is this a shift in focus for you guys? And I guess, how are you thinking about the sort of more the CV3 types of larger automotive ADAS opportunities? Are you moving resources maybe away from those things towards these other initiatives? Or are those initiatives still something that you're enthused about?

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Auto continue to be a focus. But I think with our current approach for auto is we already built a complete CV3 automotive series, as you know, that we have 685, 655, and the 635 that complete lineup for the autonomous driving software. And also, we're going to continue to invest on our software side, both for the VisLab autonomous driving software stack and auto radar software stack. So that doesn't change.

  • However, with the -- we finalized already CV3 family for the automotive road map. We definitely have resources that we're going to put on the edge infrastructure. And also we talk about -- we add another project, which is not in our annual plan. But we think with our revenue growth, we have a chance to build another silicon for edge infrastructure, which we are doing. So we are definitely add a little bit more tape-out fee to improve our strength in this edge infrastructure business.

  • Joseph Moore - Analyst

  • Okay. That's helpful. And then, I guess, I know you don't like talking about the sort of more futuristic humanoid robots and things like that. But there's obviously a lot of kind of upfront investment in kind of paving the way to those types of markets and you have technology that should be important.

  • So just how do you kind of frame that? Is that an opportunity that you're willing to invest resources into?

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Yes. In fact, we are investing the resource. Let me maybe go a little bit deeper than before. The way we look at robotic operation today, we look at -- we view that market very similar to autonomous driving five years ago. What that means is that most of our customers, instead of trying to find the most efficient solution, they are still trying to piece different pieces of the solution together to build a prototype because the size of the market for each customer is still small.

  • So we start seeing people trying to -- using one box for the video perception, the other box for radar perception and using a CPU to integrate them together. So this really reminds me five years ago of the first generation of Level 2 car coming out. It's a similar architecture. And we are that -- in that stage right now, and we already have solutions like CV5, CV7 to provide video perception and the radar perception for those kind of solution.

  • But -- however, we also believe, just like autonomous driving car, moving forward for the high-volume robotic application, you need a domain controller and you need the end-to-end AI software to drive this application. So we're going to definitely using our CV3 solution to continue to drive this application. But everything we are doing for this edge AI infrastructure, you can imagine that, that also can help the robotic solution.

  • But more importantly that's talking about silicon and software. But really go to market, you're going to start seeing, maybe in the next quarter, we're just going to start telling -- introducing an idea how we're going to change our go-to-market because we realize that in the past, we focused on addressing large customers.

  • Now with a robotic implication, the customer -- the market is very segmented. Most of the customers has small volumes. So we need to find a different approach -- go-to-market approach to address this need, and we will probably definitely start talking about that approach next quarter.

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • Joe, it's Louis. Just to wrap some hard numbers around that. So for the co-processing, like, say, the perception that would be parts like CV5 or CV7. And then, of course, the essential brain, the domain controller Fermi was referring to would be like the N family of products.

  • Operator

  • Suji Desilva, ROTH Capital.

  • Suji Desilva - Analyst

  • Fermi, John, Louis, congrats on the progress here. Maybe you can help me frame this edge AI server opportunities. Is there a way to think about the size of that relative to maybe the end devices? Some ratio or some way of thinking about the content of these servers relative to the device content? Any way to frame it so we can think about how it's going to grow in your revenue?

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Right. So maybe let me help you to the number that I'm thinking about. If you look at the aggregate, the current camera space, that's using security camera as an example. There are roughly 1.2 billion installed base camera, which need to be upgraded, either upgrade by new cameras of this AI technology or upgrade with, let's call it edge infrastructure box.

  • And those kind of box usually integrate, I would say, 8, 16, 32 different cameras into a box. And the content for that box for us is three digits, and the low three digits. So that -- I hope that gives you idea of how we look at this market opportunity.

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • And one thing I'd tack on there also is it -- having AI in the endpoint or in the edge infrastructure is not like a mutually exclusive thing. You can you can have AI in the endpoint along with the edge infrastructure servers.

  • Suji Desilva - Analyst

  • No, that's great. Understood. And then my other question around the edge infrastructure market as you're going into this. How does the competitive landscape maybe shift and some perspective there versus things like FPGAs, GPU, CPUs that already target that market? Do you think about the competitive landscape differently or is it similar?

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • So in that market, it's a very new market. When you're looking at the near edge and the far edge of the market. And so the SAM numbers like we're using are fairly small. So you do have some general-purpose-type processors used in these applications, whether it's FPGAs or, of course, GPUs. We approach this market with a much more efficient solution when you measure it in terms of like performance per watt and consider thermal impacts on the total system cost.

  • And so kind of the same advantages that we've talked about in other markets, we'll be applying to this edge market, initially, say, the near edge. And your first question, you mentioned AI servers. That's probably going to be part of it, too. But maybe initially, you'll hear about the progress in some of the near-edge markets first particularly those that use cameras.

  • Operator

  • Quinn Bolton, Needham & Company.

  • Shadi Mitwalli - Analyst

  • It's Shadi Mitwalli on for Quinn. My first question is on some of the conversations you've had in regards to your customers' supply chain. I know last quarter, you mentioned customers evaluating their own supply chains, which has caused uncertainty in the back half of this year. So just curious on how these conversations have progressed.

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Talking to our customer about our supply situation. So we continue to have the conversation. One of the worry last time we talked about is whether our customer building up inventories. I think that we continue to have that conversation with customers All of them told us that they are not building inventory. In fact, they are watching the situation, and none of them is really eager to build any inventory at this point.

  • So from that point of view, I think we feel comfortable with that. However, there's still always a geopolitical situation. Every day, as we know, things can change. So that we cannot speak for what we don't know in the next -- in the second half. So that's where uncertainty is.

  • Shadi Mitwalli - Analyst

  • Got it. And my follow-up is on gross margin. It sounds like some of your new CV chips have been tailwinds to ASP. However, gross margin is expected to decline next quarter. So I was just curious on what is driving the decline.

  • John Young - Chief Financial Officer

  • Yeah. From any quarter to quarter, it's really a combination of customers and product mix. That is the primary driver of how that corporate gross margin rolls up. And so ordering patterns of different customers and their contribution, that's really the, I guess, you could say the primary driver for any one quarter's gross margin guide.

  • Operator

  • Gus Richard, Northland Capital Markets.

  • Gus Richard - Analyst

  • A couple of questions. The video management systems that -- the 32 cameras or 16 whenever are attached to, those are coming out with, obviously, AI capabilities and the camera has AI capabilities. And I was wondering if you could help me understand how that AI split happens and why you need it in both places.

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • Right. So the quick answer to that is with installed base, you just cannot replace all the installed base camera fast enough with advanced AI cameras. So to enable the installed base with advanced AI models, this box -- this kind of boxes is required and probably easiest way to upgrade. So that's just the first answer.

  • The second answer is with a lot of different AI improvement every month or every quarter, I can imagine that in the future, you're going to continue to see more and more advanced model coming up, the camera can run a portion of it. But every time this camera comes out, it's easier to upgrade the service with a box approach. So I think the combination of those two really drive this -- the upgrade cycle.

  • Louis Gerhardy - Vice President - Corporate Development

  • Gus, it's Louis. Just to add some comments. John kind of touched on it earlier, but you could have CV2-based cameras in the field doing detection and classification with CNN networks. And then you could provide an incremental layer of service with one of our GenAI chips that could accommodate much larger parameter models on the infrastructure side, the point of aggregation. And so maybe that's one example of how it would be architected.

  • Gus Richard - Analyst

  • Got it. And then just thinking about the market, at this point, China is not part of your market. And I was just wondering if you could comment on how big the not China market is for security cameras and sort of what you see your market share is currently?

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • When we talk about our seven, ten numbers, we don't include China number anymore in any security market. So that's where we are at. And in terms of market share, outside China, I would say we definitely have a majority of the market share for the security camera in the mid and high end. On the low-end side, there are plenty of Chinese and Taiwanese suppliers try to compete with the low end with a $2 to $3 chip, which we don't compete there.

  • So if you look at -- if you separate the line with the mainstream high end to the low end, on the top, we are probably the majority leader. And on the bottom, we're just one of the players.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Martin Yang, Oppenheimer.

  • Martin Yang - Analyst

  • First question is on the edge AI infrastructure product, is the second chip something new, meaning that you are pulling forward the development reacting to end market demand or something you have long planned in the road map?

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • It's the first case. In fact, that after we talk to so many customers and what they need, we realized that N1-655 is great for the first product but we do need to have a second chip to keep competitive. And so I think that second chip -- however, the second ship is leveraging our current CV3, our third-generation CV4 architecture and software.

  • So the development is going to be fast and also the cost will be -- we think can be easily controlled. But the add value is really helping customers have a better performance per watt and higher performance in the same silicon.

  • Martin Yang - Analyst

  • And then in this quarter, accounts payable trends a little higher than normal, is that associated with this new chip development?

  • John Young - Chief Financial Officer

  • Not specifically, Martin, no. I think as we started to grow the Q2 top line guide, it's really more a function of building the inventory for -- to support the demand that we're seeing. And so corresponding with that is the accounts payable associated with it.

  • Operator

  • And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the Q&A session. I will pass it back for final remarks.

  • Feng-Ming Wang - Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer

  • And thank you all for joining us today, and I'm looking forward to talk to you next time. Bye.

  • Operator

  • Thank you. And this concludes our program. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.