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  • Operator

  • Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

  • I would like to welcome you to Adobe Systems fourth-quarter FY16 earnings conference call.

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Mike Saviage, Vice President of Investor Relations.

  • Please go ahead, sir.

  • - VP of IR

  • Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today.

  • Joining me on the call are Adobe's President and CEO Shantanu Narayen, and Mark Garrett, Executive Vice President and CFO.

  • In the call today, we will discuss Adobe's fourth quarter and FY16 financial results.

  • By now, you should have a copy of our earnings press release, which crossed the wire approximately one hour ago.

  • We have also posted PDFs of our earnings call prepared remarks and slides, financial targets, and an updated investor datasheet on Adobe.com.

  • If you would like a copy of these documents, you can go to the Investor Relations page and find them listed under Quick Links.

  • Before we get started, we want to emphasize that some of the information discussed in this call, particularly our revenue and operating model targets, and our forward-looking product plans is based on information as of today, December 15, 2016, and contains forward-looking statements that involve risk and uncertainty.

  • Actual results may differ materially from those set forth in such statements.

  • For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, you should review the forward-looking statements disclosure in the earnings press release we issued today as well as Adobe's SEC filings.

  • During this call, we will discuss GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures.

  • A reconciliation between the two is available in our earnings release and in our updated investor datasheet on Adobe's Investor Relations website.

  • Call participants are advised that the audio of this conference call is being webcast live in Adobe Connect and is also being recorded for playback purposes.

  • An archive of the webcast will be made available on Adobe's Investor Relations website for approximately 45 days and is the property of Adobe.

  • The call audio and the webcast archive may not be re-recorded or otherwise reproduced or distributed without prior written permission from Adobe.

  • I'll now turn the call over to Shantanu.

  • - President and CEO

  • Thanks, Mike, and good afternoon.

  • FY16 was another great year for Adobe.

  • Our record revenue and net income were driven by strong performance in Creative Cloud annualized recurring revenue, continued growth of Adobe Document Cloud subscriptions and strong revenue and bookings for Adobe Marketing Cloud.

  • In Q4, we delivered record revenue of $1.61 billion, which represents 23% year-over-year growth.

  • GAAP earnings per share in Q4 was $0.80 and non-GAAP earnings per share was $0.90.

  • For the year, we grew total revenue to $5.85 billion, which represents 22% annual growth.

  • GAAP earnings per share in FY16 was $2.32 and non-GAAP earnings per share was $3.01.

  • In Digital Media we are advancing the state of the art for content and setting the standard for creativity and digital documents.

  • We exited the year with over $4 billion of annualized recurring revenue, or ARR.

  • The net ARR increase in Q4 was $316 million and was driven by continued adoption and retention of Creative Cloud and Document Cloud across all customer segments.

  • Creative Cloud is the one-stop shop for creativity and design and in FY16, we expanded our customer base while continuing to deliver a rapid stream of product innovations.

  • We achieved record Creative revenue of $886 million in Q4.

  • For the year, we achieved Creative revenue of $3.2 billion, which represents 38% year-over-year growth.

  • At the heart of the Creative Cloud is the promise of continuous innovation and the pace at which we are delivering new technology is accelerating.

  • Last month, at our MAX Creativity Conference, we unveiled next generation desktop, mobile and cloud services for designers, photographers and film-makers as well as sneak previews of creative technologies in the areas of virtual reality, image matching and digital painting.

  • Our creative customers have always counted on us to turn the future into reality.

  • Creative Cloud is the place designers expect to get the best tools and services in emerging categories like experience design and 3D.

  • Earlier this week, we released two public betas: Adobe XD for Windows, the first all-in-one tool for designing, prototyping and sharing user experiences for web and mobile apps; and Project Felix, a new application that enables designers to create photo-realistic composites with 2D images and 3D assets.

  • Adobe Stock continues to gain momentum in the multibillion-dollar stock image category.

  • In Q4, we launched the Adobe Stock Contributor Site, a new platform that allows users to upload and sell photos, illustrations, videos, and vectors to the world's largest creative community.

  • We also announced a partnership with Reuters that will bring their expansive video and photography library across news, sports, business and entertainment to the Adobe Stock service.

  • With creativity exploding across the globe, geographic expansion represents a significant growth opportunity.

  • In November, we launched Adobe Creative Cloud for teams in China.

  • China is one of the world's largest digital economies and we can now address its extensive community of designers and creators.

  • We believe everyone is creative and should have the opportunity to express themselves.

  • Adobe Spark, our consumer friendly web and mobile solution for creating and sharing professional-quality animated videos, web stories and social graphics, is gaining traction with small businesses, social marketers and students.

  • We will continue to invest in Adobe Spark, which we see as a key way to reach a broader consumer audience as part of Creative Cloud.

  • The world's leading digital document service, Adobe Document Cloud, leverages the PDF standard we pioneered and enables businesses to transform inefficient paper-based processes to digital.

  • In Q4, Document Cloud revenue was $191 million and we grew Document Cloud ARR to $475 million.

  • Document Cloud represents the modern way for managing digital documents.

  • Core cloud capabilities, like mobile and collaboration, as well as services like electronic signatures have become a requirement for our customers.

  • As a result, Document Cloud subscriptions now eclipse licensing of perpetual Acrobat software on Adobe.com and we expect to see stronger migration among our enterprise customers in the coming year.

  • As part of the ongoing innovation delivered through Document Cloud, this quarter, we rolled out critical new scan functionality in our Adobe Reader mobile apps.

  • In October, we expanded the global footprint for Adobe Document Cloud, with the launch of the Adobe Sign service in Japan.

  • In our Digital Marketing segment, Adobe Marketing Cloud is the leader in enabling brands, government agencies and institutions to deliver great digital experiences across devices and channels.

  • Whether it is financial institutions, retail, travel and entertainment, or automotive, entire industries are experiencing digital disruption and aggressively deploying technology to drive stronger brand loyalty and growth.

  • Adobe's winning formula is built on a unique foundation of content and data which enables deep customer insights, development and delivery of consistent personalized experiences and the ability to monitor and optimize business performance in real-time.

  • Adobe Marketing Cloud continues to be the most comprehensive offering in the exploding digital marketing category, with best-in-class solutions and analytics content management, cross-channel campaigns, and data management as well as media optimization.

  • We're seeing strong demand for the Adobe Marketing Cloud across the globe, as evidenced by the sold-out crowds at events this quarter in London, Paris, Munich and Tokyo.

  • Major customer wins this quarter included Lufthansa, Pandora, United Healthcare, UPS, US Defense Information Systems Agency, and Verizon.

  • In Q4, Adobe managed a record 33.5 trillion data transactions, providing us with an unparalleled view into real-time business and cultural trends.

  • Debuting in 2016, the Adobe Digital Price Index has redefined how inflation and consumer goods prices are tracked and measured, and has received broad support from the world's leading economists.

  • Leveraging over 20 billion visits to retail websites, Adobe Digital Insights' Holiday Shopping Report accurately predicted online sales for this holiday season within a margin of error of less than 0.5%.

  • Adobe measures 80% of all online transactions from the top 100 US retailers, and $7.50 out of every $10 spent online with the top 500 US retailers go through Adobe Marketing Cloud.

  • This tremendous volume of data puts Adobe in the unique position to deliver highly accurate, census-based online sales totals, pricing and product availability trends each holiday season.

  • Last month, we announced our intention to acquire TubeMogul, a leading demand site video advertising platform, further strengthening our leadership in digital marketing and ad tech.

  • Adobe is currently a leader in search, display and social advertising planning and delivery with our Adobe Media Optimizer solution.

  • The addition of TubeMogul to our ad tech capabilities will enable Adobe's customers to maximize their video advertising investments across desktop, mobile, streaming devices and TV.

  • Together, Adobe and TubeMogul will enable our customers to identify the right audience segments and plan, execute and measure paid media performance across any device.

  • We expect the transaction to close in December.

  • In September, we announced a strategic partnership with Microsoft to help enterprises embrace digital transformation.

  • Adobe announced it will make Microsoft Azure the preferred platform for our cloud services, providing customers with a trusted enterprise-grade, global platform and that we will integrate our Adobe Marketing Cloud technology with Microsoft's Dynamic 365 Enterprise and Power BI.

  • Microsoft announced it will make Adobe Marketing Cloud the preferred marketing service for its enterprise customers and its extensive partner and developer ecosystem.

  • Adobe's success has been a result of our ability to predict the future.

  • While others are jumping on the machine learning and the AI bandwagon, these capabilities have been the foundation of our innovation for decades.

  • Our engineers and scientists are squarely focused on harnessing the massive volume of content and data assets captured in our cloud solutions to tackle today's complex experience challenges.

  • Last month, we announced Adobe Sensei, a new framework and set of intelligent services for dramatically improving the design and delivery of digital experiences.

  • Adobe Sensei services address the critical demands of our creative, document and marketing customers from image matching across million of images to understanding the meaning and sentiment of digital documents, to finally targeting important audience segments.

  • Dozens of these intelligence services have been deployed in our products to date and we are significantly increasing our investment.

  • We also intend to make Adobe Sensei available to our ecosystem of partners, ISVs and developers.

  • Adobe's success over the decades is, in no small part, due to the unique culture we have created.

  • In October, we were named a Best Multinational Workplace by the Great Places To Work Institute, and this month, we were among the top 10 employers on Glassdoor's 2017 list of 50 Best Places To Work.

  • We know that a strong workforce is a diverse workforce, and we are committed to increasing diversity among our employee base.

  • We have broken new ground in terms of employee benefits like extended parental leave and are implementing programs including youth coding and media making initiatives to inspire future female technologists.

  • Being a good global citizen is important to our employees, customers and investors.

  • For the first time, Adobe has been selected as a component of the prestigious Dow Jones Sustainability World Index.

  • For the third year in a row, we received a perfect score on the 2017 Corporate Equality Index Report from the Human Rights Campaign Foundation.

  • In light of these accomplishments Adobe's brand momentum has never been stronger and we were honored to be one of the five fastest growing brands on the 2016 Interbrand Best Global Brands ranking.

  • FY16 was a great year for Adobe.

  • We are driving growth in each of the large categories we have created.

  • With a $64 billion total addressable market by 2019, our opportunity has never been greater.

  • Our mission to change the world through digital experiences has never been more relevant.

  • And our strategy, our technology and our people set us up for continued success.

  • I would like to thank our employees for their dedication and innovation over the past year.

  • We remain incredibly excited about the opportunity ahead.

  • Mark?

  • - CFO

  • Thanks, Shantanu.

  • Our earnings report today covers both Q4 and FY16 results.

  • In FY16, Adobe achieved record annual revenue of $5.85 billion which represents 22% year-over-year growth.

  • GAAP EPS for the year was $2.32 and non-GAAP EPS was $3.01.

  • This performance is a result of strong execution against our strategy and noteworthy achievements, including growing Digital Media ARR by $1.13 billion during the year to exit FY16 with $4.01 billion, well ahead of our original target of $3.875 billion, achieving 38% year-over-year revenue growth in our Creative business and exiting the year with $3.54 billion of ARR.

  • Delivering Document Cloud revenue of $765 million and growing ARR to $475 million, both of which reflect progress against our goal of migrating this to a subscription business.

  • Achieving record Adobe Marketing Cloud revenue of $1.63 billion and 20% annual year-over-year growth.

  • Generating $2.2 billion in operating cash flow during the year, which represents 50% year-over-year growth; growing deferred revenue to $2 billion and increasing our unbilled backlog to approximately $3.4 billion exiting the year.

  • Together this represents approximately $5.4 billion of contracted revenue that will be recognized over time and returning over $1 billion in cash to stockholders through our stock repurchase program.

  • In the fourth quarter of FY16, Adobe achieved record revenue of $1.61 billion which represents 23% year-over-year growth.

  • GAAP diluted earnings-per-share in Q4 was $0.80 and non-GAAP diluted earnings-per-share was $0.90.

  • Highlights in the quarter included achieving $316 million of net new Digital Media ARR; record Creative revenue of $886 million, which represents 33% year-over-year growth; record Adobe Marketing Cloud revenue of $465 million, which represents 32% year-over-year growth.

  • Strong growth in operating and net income; record cash flow from operations and deferred revenue; and 82% of Q4 revenue from recurring sources.

  • In Digital Media, we grew segment revenue by 23% year-over-year.

  • The addition of $316 million net new Digital Media ARR during the quarter grew total Digital Media ARR to $4.01 billion exiting Q4.

  • Within Digital Media, we delivered Creative revenue of $886 million, which represents 33% year-over-year growth.

  • In addition, we increased Creative ARR by [$283 million] during Q4 and exited the quarter with $3.54 billion of Creative ARR.

  • Driving the momentum with our Creative business was continued strong demand for Creative Cloud across all offerings and routes to market during the quarter, including net new Creative Cloud subscriptions and enterprise contract renewals and upsells.

  • Creative Cloud ARPU grew quarter over quarter across all offerings in Q4.

  • As we outlined at our analyst meeting in November, our focus with Creative Cloud continues to be in three key areas.

  • Growing our core base of users, including migrating the legacy user base of Creative Suite users, addressing piracy, and growing our installed base in the education market.

  • Driving new customer adoption in adjacent markets with market expansion efforts such as the Photography Plan and using Creative Cloud mobile apps to create awareness and drive new member adoption, and growing ARPU and ARR with value expansion services such as Adobe Stock.

  • Some highlights against these goals during the year include: 53% year-over-year subscription growth outside the US.

  • Broadly expanding our base of users by adding more than 1 million Creative Cloud Photography Plan subscribers during the year and growing Adobe Stock revenue by more than 40% year over year.

  • With Document Cloud, we achieved revenue of $191 million.

  • Document Cloud ARR grew to $475 million, the highest sequential quarterly growth this year.

  • Driving this growth was adoption of Acrobat subscriptions and value-add services such as Adobe Sign, both which are benefiting ARR and building a foundation for revenue growth in the future.

  • In Digital Marketing, we achieved record quarterly and annual Adobe Marketing Cloud revenue.

  • Entering the year, we targeted approximately 20% Adobe Marketing Cloud annual revenue growth and approximately 30% annual subscription value, or ASV bookings growth.

  • Included in these targets in FY16 was an expectation of approximately $45 million of perpetual revenue.

  • Relative to our expectations at the beginning of the year, we experienced increased demand for on-premise, perpetual licensed solutions by some customers.

  • When we combined ASV bookings for the year with an overachievement in first year value of perpetual contracts, we achieved 30% bookings growth.

  • In Q4, we achieved Marketing Cloud revenue of $465 million, which represents 32% year-over-year growth.

  • With this Q4 performance in FY16, we achieved 20% annual revenue growth.

  • Mobile remains a key driver for this business.

  • Mobile data transactions grew to 55% of total Adobe Analytics transactions in the quarter.

  • From a quarter-over-quarter currency perspective, FX decreased revenue by $4.5 million.

  • We had $8.1 million in hedge gains in Q4 FY16 versus $3.9 million in hedge gains in Q3 FY16.

  • Thus, the net sequential currency decrease to revenue considering hedging gains was $0.3 million.

  • From a year-over-year currency perspective, FX decreased revenue by $9.1 million.

  • We had $8.1 million in hedge gains in Q4 FY16 versus $1.3 million in hedge gains in Q4 FY15; thus the net year-over-year currency decrease to revenue considering hedging gains was $2.3 million.

  • We experienced stable demand across all major geographies during the quarter.

  • In Q4, Adobe's effective tax rate was 12.5% on a GAAP basis and 21% on a non-GAAP basis.

  • The GAAP rate was lower than targeted due to tax benefits recognized as a result of the completion of certain income tax audits.

  • Our trade DSO was 47 days, which compares to 47 days in the year-ago quarter and 45 days last quarter.

  • Deferred revenue grew to a record $2 billion, up 36% year over year.

  • Our ending cash and short-term investment position was $4.76 billion, compared to $4.45 billion at the end of Q3.

  • Cash flow from operations was a record $696 million in the quarter.

  • During this year, we have been using excess domestic cash to buy back stock and reduce our share count.

  • In Q3, we've repurchased approximately 3.2 million shares at a cost of $331 million.

  • We currently have $500 million remaining under our current authority granted in January 2015.

  • Now I will provide our financial outlook.

  • Entering FY17, we have great momentum and continue to see strength across our three cloud businesses.

  • We are excited about our large addressable markets and are uniquely positioned to drive strong top-line and bottom line growth.

  • At our November 2 financial analyst meeting, we outlined our long-term strategy and provided long-term growth rates and preliminary FY17 financial targets.

  • We remain confident in our ability to operationally execute against those targets and we are reaffirming our long-term FY15 to FY18 financial targets today.

  • Since the analyst meeting, the US dollar has strengthened considerably.

  • Were it not for this currency fluctuation, we would be reaffirming all of the preliminary FY17 targets we provided on November 2. Based on today's FX rates, we believe our hedging programs will effectively mitigate the impact of these rate changes in Q1 and Q2 but if they persist, current FX rates will affect our ability to achieve the preliminary annual targets due to the impact in the second half of FY17.

  • As a result, we are providing the following FY17 targets.

  • We expect total revenue of approximately $6.95 billion, which factoring in the extra week in FY16, represents approximately 21% year-over-year growth.

  • We continue to target Digital Media segment revenue growth of approximately 20%.

  • As you know, we measure ARR on a constant currency basis during a fiscal year and if necessary, we revalue ARR at year-end for the current currency rates.

  • FX rate changes have resulted in a $27 million reduction and an updated Digital Media ARR exiting FY16 of $3.99 billion.

  • The effect of this revision is reflected in our updated investor datasheet and we continue to expect approximately 25% Digital Media ARR growth, which equates to approximately $1 billion of net new ARR in the year, leading to approximately $5 billion of Digital Media ARR exiting FY17.

  • By quarter, we expect to add approximately $225 million of net new Digital Media ARR in Q1, followed by sequential growth of net new ARR in Q2, then in Q3, we anticipate a seasonally driven sequential decline followed by strong seasonal growth in the fourth quarter to achieve the target for the year.

  • In Digital Marketing, we continue to target Adobe Marketing Cloud revenue growth of approximately 20% and Adobe Marketing Cloud ASV bookings growth of approximately 30%.

  • Despite the currency impact, we expect to achieve the same FY17 EPS targets we provided on November 2, which are GAAP earnings per share of approximately $2.85 and non-GAAP earnings per share targeted at approximately $3.75.

  • During the year, we expect revenue and earnings per share to grow sequentially each quarter with the largest sequential increase in Q4.

  • Starting with FY17, we are providing quarterly estimates for our most likely results rather than providing targeted ranges due to the increased predictability in our business.

  • In the first quarter of FY17, we are targeting revenue of approximately $1.625 billion.

  • We expect to achieve approximately $225 million of net new Digital Media ARR in Q1.

  • We expect Digital Media Q1 segment year-over-year revenue growth of approximately 19% and Adobe Marketing Cloud year-over-year revenue growth of approximately 20%.

  • When comparing Q1 FY17 targets, it is helpful to remember that Q1 FY16 had an extra week due to our 52/53 week fiscal year calendar.

  • Factoring the extra week in Q1 FY16, all Q1 FY17 revenue targets represent greater than 20% year-over-year growth.

  • We are targeting our Q1 share count to be approximately 501 million shares.

  • We expect net non-operating expense to be approximately $13 million on both a GAAP and non-GAAP basis.

  • We are targeting a Q1 tax rate of approximately 15% on a GAAP basis and 21% on a non-GAAP basis.

  • These targets yield a Q1 GAAP earnings per share target of approximately $0.71 and Q1 non-GAAP earnings per share of approximately $0.87.

  • Finally, the targets we are providing today do not reflect our planned acquisition of TubeMogul, which we expect to close in December.

  • We plan to issue updated Q1 and annual FY17 financial targets after the acquisition closes.

  • We strongly believe analysts and investors should wait for the close of the acquisition to combine expected results of both companies into an updated model for the coming year.

  • We plan to host a brief call to discuss our strategy and targets that factor in items such as a stub quarter period and accounting implications.

  • In summary, 2016 was another strong year for Adobe.

  • We are the market leader, with all three of our cloud solutions and we are executing well against a large and growing addressable market.

  • We're excited about what lies ahead for Adobe and look forward to sharing more progress with you in the coming year.

  • Mike?

  • - VP of IR

  • Thanks, Mark.

  • If you wish to listen to a playback of today's conference call, a web-based archive of the call will be available on our IR site later today.

  • Alternatively, you can listen to a phone replay by calling 855-859-2056.

  • Use conference ID number 253-69-759.

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  • The phone playback service will be available beginning at 5:00 PM Pacific Time today and ending at 5:00 PM Pacific Time on December 21, 2016.

  • We would now be happy to take your questions and we ask that you limit your questions to one per person.

  • Operator?

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Steve Ashley, Robert Baird.

  • - Analyst

  • I was going to look at the Creative Media business.

  • You hitting on all cylinders.

  • The Creative business is strong.

  • You have strengthened education, Document is coming up the curve.

  • I was going to ask about the consumer opportunity there.

  • Can you remind us what you have today in consumer and if there is an opportunity to maybe push out and expand how far you push into the consumer market in the future?

  • Thanks.

  • - President and CEO

  • I'm happy to take that, Steve.

  • You are right.

  • And thank you for the acknowledgment of how we are executing against Creative business.

  • From our point of view, Creative Cloud is very much about not just migrating the core customer segment but significantly through market expansion, making sure that we are targeting new customers.

  • I would point out two or three different initiatives in that space.

  • The first one clearly is Creative Cloud Photography Plan.

  • As you know we used to have a Lightroom and Photoshop Elements.

  • We're increasingly seeing those consumers adopt the Creative Cloud Photography Plan; that continues to do really well in terms of a new customer acquisition that we have.

  • A second category that I will talk about are products like Adobe Spark.

  • We're seeing more and more people who have a story to tell, wanting to use Adobe Spark and I think in this year, you will see that also start to get integrated and folded into the Creative Cloud, much like mobile apps are.

  • They represent a big customer acquisition and adoption and migration opportunity.

  • And the third, I continue to impress upon education.

  • Education is a segment; does really well in Creative Cloud.

  • It's that next generation, or whether it is K-12 students or higher ed.

  • As they get exposed to our products, clearly as they enter university or the marketplace, they are using our products, all of which we look at as positive trends for the future.

  • - Analyst

  • Great.

  • Thanks so much.

  • Operator

  • Kirk Materne, Evercore ISI.

  • - Analyst

  • Congrats on a great fiscal year to you all.

  • Shantanu, the last time we met you was right the week before the election and I think there's a lot of folks who are wondering what you guys have seen post the results from a macro perspective.

  • I know you guys are sort of operating on your cadence right now in terms of your products and your strategy, but I was curious, I guess especially in the digital marketing world where you guys are obviously talking to a lot of enterprises.

  • Is there any change in tone or I guess projected spend, or anything like that?

  • I was just curious if you could give us a bit of an update on that?

  • Thanks.

  • - President and CEO

  • Sure Kirk.

  • I have seen rally in the stock market as well, which I think all of us have certainly experienced but in addition to that, I would just continue to emphasize this notion of how all enterprises are being transformed by what is happening in digital and the urgency with which they really need to think about technology that they can leverage to become more of an experienced business.

  • I think that continues to be unabated.

  • As you saw, we had a pretty strong Q4 revenue growth with 30% year over year in the Digital Marketing business and I think the opportunity continues to be one that we're excited about, not just in the US, but internationally as well so nothing that we have seen, either just before the election or post-election changes our belief in the large opportunity and our continued execution in that, Kirk.

  • - Analyst

  • Thanks very much.

  • Operator

  • Sterling Auty, JPMorgan.

  • - Analyst

  • In your prepared remarks, you mentioned the overage or the higher-than-expected demand for on-premise, perpetual in the Digital Marketing side.

  • How much of that happened in the fourth quarter and if you normalize, how would you characterize the bookings and revenue relative to what your expectations were?

  • - President and CEO

  • Sterling, when we look at the entire year first, let me reflect that we continue to think that we both have the most comprehensive offerings and we're pleased with both the revenue and the bookings growth for the year.

  • I do want to clarify that we think the cloud remains the long-term right offering for our customers.

  • But it is -- the fact that we have an on-premise solution, we continue to think it's a competitive advantage and globally, it is hard to predict which option customers might prefer on a quarter-by-quarter basis but I want to reiterate it's all, from our point of view, good revenue.

  • When we look at the different components of revenue in the Marketing Cloud and you look at subscription, which we think is the healthiest long-term predictor and then you look at perpetual and consulting, the subscription bookings revenue grew 29% year over year in FY16.

  • So stronger than the overall 20%.

  • And if you actually go back to what Mark showed at the analyst meeting and look at the pie chart, it was exactly in line with what we had predicted for Q4.

  • Relative to the beginning of the year, to your question, we certainly overachieved a little bit in perpetual revenue relative to subscription bookings.

  • However, when you normalize that and you take, given perpetual revenue as a multi-year commitment and look at just the first year component, I think it's really small and so relative to overall growth, we feel good about it.

  • The mix was slightly different relative to what we thought at the beginning of the year.

  • - Analyst

  • Got it.

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Brent Thill, UBS.

  • - Analyst

  • Shantanu, the Asian business has been very strong the last couple quarters and I was curious if you could just talk through the fall-through that you're seeing there.

  • I know you have also made a bigger push into China, where many software companies have not been as successful for a lot of the reasons.

  • Can you just talk a little bit about what you're seeing there so far as you push more aggressively to China?

  • - President and CEO

  • Sure, Brent.

  • I think that two things that we factor in.

  • The first, as we've always stated when we first released Creative Cloud.

  • Adoption of Creative Cloud in Asia lagged adoption of Creative Cloud in the US and UK, for example, as markets.

  • We are now pleased with the adoption that we are seeing.

  • Australia was always a strong market.

  • Australia continues to be a very strong market so as it relates to Creative Cloud, as we said, even having it in China right now, it was long overdue and the fact that we now have Creative Cloud for teams in China I think shows our commitment to the Chinese digital economy, which we continue to think is one of the largest, so we feel good about.

  • The other large opportunity, as you know, for us is in digital marketing.

  • And that is driven by two different phenomena.

  • The first phenomena is as we are increasingly have global agreements with US multinationals, they expect deployment of our solutions, whether it is in retail, financial services or other places to also be true in China and in India and in Australia and Southeast Asia.

  • So that is continuing to drive some growth and then even local companies in all of those markets, as they realize mobile, in particular, there and the digital disruption there, there is excitement around our products.

  • So in Digital Media, it is all about the adoption of Creative Cloud and Digital Marketing, has brought about global adoption of our Digital Marketing solutions as well as local companies increasingly recognizing that they have to migrate to digital, with mobile being the key driver there.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Walter Pritchard, Citi.

  • - Analyst

  • Shantanu, I'm wondering if you could talk about the ETLA performance in the fourth quarter and your expectations in terms of ETLA as part of that $1 billion in incremental ARR next year.

  • I'm specifically trying to figure out if that -- if the new ETLA business is still growing.

  • I know you're coming on some renewals and so forth there.

  • I just wanted to get a sense of the trajectory.

  • - President and CEO

  • Net summary, Walter, very strong quarter in Q4.

  • I think driven by two different phenomena.

  • The first is three years ago when we had first introduced the ETLA program for our customers, it was really more a reflection of what they were licensing for Creative Suite so I'd call them more of these custom solutions, which reflected what versions of different products that we're using.

  • Starting in FY16, we move to a more complete solution, which is people were licensing all of the products and the fact that it was integrated.

  • The field organization did a really great job of articulating the benefits of moving to the entire complete solution and the second thing that actually happened in the year was also true-ups, which is people are finding that as they are deploying more and more of Creative Cloud, they were volunteering doing true-ups.

  • So new logos as well as moving from, what I would say, custom to complete and clearly resulting in an increase in ARPU for the enterprise and we continue to believe that, that represents a large opportunity in the US and internationally for FY17.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Kash Rangan, Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

  • - Analyst

  • This is Shankar on behalf of Kash.

  • I have a question on your overall margin profile as we look into the next few years.

  • You mentioned in your prepared remarks about being the increased investment that you're going to make in Sensei and Adobe Spark and a whole lot of other products.

  • But if you also look at the large down potential and the potential that as your partnership can drive your Marketing Cloud.

  • And also your margins down over time.

  • What is the leverage in the model and can we expect an operating margin to be in the 40% to 45% range there by the end of the decade?

  • - CFO

  • It's Mark.

  • Thanks for the question.

  • I'm glad I got one.

  • I was getting ready to go home.

  • (laughter) So first, we are extremely proud of our ability to be one of the only, if not one of the only cloud companies, that can grow significantly on top-line and bottom line and the fact that we got to $3.01 this year and being well ahead of our guidance is something that we are very proud of.

  • We do have room in the model to invest in the businesses that we need to invest in.

  • If you look at next year's guidance and you do the P&L based on what we just told you, you're going to come up with operating margins that are increasing by around 1 point from this year, so from 34% to 35%.

  • We gave you guidance for 2018.

  • You can see that margins continue to improve from there.

  • I'm not going to say at this point that we're going to go back to 40% which is where we were in 2008 but you can see that there is still tremendous leverage in our model and we feel very good about that.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • Keith Weiss, Morgan Stanley.

  • - Analyst

  • This is Stan Zlotsky sitting in for Keith Weiss.

  • So I actually wanted to ask a question on the Document Services business.

  • The ARR, the add-in for Q4 was very impressive and you guys had mentioned in the prepared remarks that the fastest and most you've had it all year.

  • So what was the driver of the outperformance in the quarter?

  • And more broadly, as you move the Document back into services business to subscription, how are you thinking about that versus the kind of strategy that you adopted, moving the Creative Cloud business to subscription as well?

  • So thank you.

  • - President and CEO

  • I think two comments come to mind there.

  • First is it was a very strong year and if you look at just the Document Cloud segment ARR, it probably under represents the momentum that we have with the Document Cloud and Acrobat businesses because as you know, significant number of people also use Acrobat DC when they are using the Creative Cloud.

  • So big picture, it was driven by both the Adobe.com, where we have very dramatically made the switch from people buying the perpetual product to people buying the subscription offering as well as enterprise and the adoption of new services like Adobe Sign.

  • So when you look at the ARR, I think the ARR growth was over 20% for the year and when you think about the unit growth that we're seeing in it, it just reflects that PDF, as a standard, has continued to be the way in which people share.

  • For those on the call, I would also really recommend you try out our new mobile apps and the scan functionality, where it's -- I would say one of the easiest ways for people to create a PDF out of any picture that they might have using the camera.

  • So continued innovation, I think in that space, just reflects paper to digital is this macro trend.

  • They are very uniquely positioned to capitalize on that.

  • - VP of IR

  • Next question, please.

  • Operator

  • Jay Vleeschhouwer, Griffin Securities.

  • - Analyst

  • Mark, don't go home yet.

  • I have a question for you.

  • (laughter) So, the question concerns cash flow.

  • - VP of IR

  • Jay, it's Mike.

  • I'm glad you're on our call, not the Oracle call, like everyone else thinks.

  • - Analyst

  • You're very welcome.

  • You just grew your GAAP operating cash flow by about $800 million in 2016 and the question is, how are you thinking about cash flow in 2017?

  • Do you think you could achieve a similar increment, even considering all the investments of course that you're talking about, particularly in terms of geographic expansion in Asia, and of course, R&D.

  • - CFO

  • Yes, Jay, thanks for the question.

  • Obviously, we had extremely strong cash flow on the year.

  • Really good cash flow in Q4.

  • As I look into next year I expect very strong cash flow again.

  • I will say -- I'm glad you asked the question.

  • I will say, just so everybody understands, cash flow from Q4 to Q1 always naturally declines.

  • We have a lot of payments that get made in the first quarter for commissions and bonuses and things like that so you should expect a pretty substantial decline, just sequentially, but I do fully expect another strong cash flow year next year.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Maybe just as a follow-up, could you talk about perhaps the non-net income components of that?

  • How are you thinking in terms, for example, of deferred in particular?

  • - CFO

  • Again, I expect deferred to continue to increase as we drive bookings faster than we are driving revenue.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Great.

  • Thanks very much.

  • Operator

  • Ross MacMillan, RBC Capital Markets.

  • - Analyst

  • Mark, when we look at ARR, the big picture, I guess is that we added about $1.1 billion this year, 2016, about the same level as FY15.

  • We're talking about $1.7 billion in 2017 so there is very little decay in the rate of new ARR being added and I know you're not yet talking about the year or even further out.

  • But how should we be thinking about that kind of pace of moderation shall we see in that ARR increment and the question really goes to this notion of where we are, both in terms of user ads and base transition?

  • I'm just curious for your high-level thoughts.

  • - CFO

  • I mean, we've -- like you say, we been consistently adding around $1 billion and we feel very good about that number.

  • We continue to attract the users.

  • We continue to drive higher ARPU.

  • We're getting people off of promotions on to full price.

  • We're adding value-add services like Stock, all of those things help drive that ARR number.

  • Retention helps drive that ARR number.

  • So there's lots of different ways that we can do that and as you note we are addressing a much bigger TAM than we were addressing the number of years ago so all of that plays into our ability, we believe, to continue to drive that kind of net new ARR.

  • - Analyst

  • Then just one other, just follow-up quickly, just on the seasonality of ARR this year.

  • I think this will be the first year where we actually see decline in fiscal Q3.

  • If that's just the base effect, like the numbers are getting bigger, are there any particular things this year we should think about as we transition Q2 to Q3 that maybe we didn't see last year or the prior year?

  • - CFO

  • There is nothing new.

  • We're just trying to make sure we incorporate seasonality.

  • Q3 is a slower seasonal quarter for buying for us and we just want to factor that in.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thanks again.

  • Congratulations.

  • - CFO

  • Thank you.

  • - VP of IR

  • Thanks Ross.

  • Operator

  • Brian Weiser, Pivotal Research.

  • - Analyst

  • Following the TubeMogul acquisition, I was just wondering if you could talk about any other aspects of ad tech, you think you may be emphasizing investment in, whether internal or external?

  • And maybe relatedly, Tube made a pretty strong focus as an independent company on demand audience orientation.

  • Given the business you have on prime time, I'm wondering if you expect it will have some supply audience orientation as well?

  • - President and CEO

  • I think at this point, Brian, what I would say is we're excited about the TubeMogul acquisition and we are excited about the long-term video as well as data opportunities.

  • Just to highlight from our point of view, TubeMogul enables it's more heft in our ad tech platform which is a key part of -- as we are targeting the CMO, the Chief Revenue Officer, the Chief Digital Officer, and in enterprise and adding to what we have in displays, search and social so that's good.

  • To your point, we do have now more end-to-end capabilities, all the way from video delivery to monetization for our publisher as well as our advertiser customers.

  • And I think what's perhaps most strategic the integration between their DSP offering and our DMP.

  • We're seeing more and more people wanting to integrate with our industry-leading Audience Manager, DMP.

  • That's really become in FY16 a driver of the adoption of the platform and so I think our goal, when this closes, will be to share more about what we are planning to do strategically, but big picture, it just enables us to be more of trusted platform for the chief marketing officers and chief revenue officers and to enable both personalization in terms of delivery and better segmentation in deriving value from all of the data that they have.

  • Excited about it and we will say more about that after we close.

  • - Analyst

  • Okay.

  • Thank you very much.

  • Operator

  • Heather Bellini, Goldman Sachs.

  • - Analyst

  • It's Jack Kilgallen filling in for Heather.

  • So you mentioned Creative Cloud ARPU continues to grow sequentially.

  • I just wondered if you could rank order the drivers behind this.

  • I know you mentioned users on promo pricing renewing at full price, new offerings like Stock.

  • If you could just put into context of what the biggest drivers are?

  • And how long we should expect a tailwind like the promo users for doing it full price to exist.

  • Thanks.

  • - President and CEO

  • All of them are clearly driving the transition of the business to ARR.

  • I would say people are migrating off of the promotional pricing and as long as they continue to retain to full price, that is certainly one of the large drivers.

  • I think we talked about enterprise as one of the large drivers.

  • The mix, as it moves from single app to complete is another driver, so hopefully that gives you a little bit of color.

  • And that is why our strategy of getting more and more people onto the platform -- we actually did fewer promotions in the quarter.

  • They were more targeted promotions so they were successful.

  • And that gives you some color, I think.

  • Stock and Sign are starting to become reasonable ARR and we expect continued growth in both those areas as well.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you.

  • Operator

  • (Operator Instructions)

  • Michael Nemerov, Credit Suisse.

  • - Analyst

  • Just building on the last one.

  • Some recent survey work that we've done suggest that the majority of enterprises have yet to upgrade to Windows 10 but they plan to do so within the next 12 to 24 months.

  • So I'm just curious, how much of the as-yet converted suite base is running Windows versus iOS and do you expect because I didn't hear you mention in the last answer that those Windows 10 upgrades would drive some of the ARR growth in FY17?

  • - President and CEO

  • I think big picture, what I would say in that particular space is whenever there are hardware transitions or software transitions with significant new functionality, they always represent opportunities for us to accelerate migration.

  • When people look at Windows in particular, I think what is most exciting to them is in addition to the incredible hardware that Microsoft and other companies are doing, the fact that it's Stock-enabled has really made a very significant difference.

  • Video capabilities are also in that platform are just so powerful that there is clearly migration from the high-end proprietary video systems into PCs.

  • So that hopefully gives you some color.

  • I think Apple continues to innovate but with Windows 10, as people migrate, it always is an opportunity for us to work with that transition team to make sure that they also migrate to Creative Cloud.

  • - Analyst

  • Thank you very much.

  • - VP of IR

  • Operator, we're coming up on the top of the hour.

  • Why don't we take one more question.

  • Operator

  • Samad Samana, Stephens Inc.

  • - Analyst

  • I apologize if it's already been asked.

  • I jumped on late.

  • But could you give us any idea -- you gave 1 million of new Photoshop subs that you added are photography package.

  • Maybe any color on just what the full-year trend looked like for full Creative Cloud adds and if there is any change in either of these retention rate that you saw there or the add-on rates for the Adobe Stock package for the Creative Cloud, that included Stock.

  • Thank you.

  • - President and CEO

  • I think with respect to both the addition of subs as well as the migration of the business, all of them just continue to be really powerful.

  • If I had to give you a little bit of color, as it relates to what happened in retention, I think in 2011, when we first outlined the opportunities, we estimated at that point, that even at 80% retention rates for the core Creative, it would be great for the business.

  • Clearly, retention for the core Creative is higher than that.

  • In fact, for the entire base, that includes -- if you could mute your line also, that would be great.

  • Thank you.

  • And so what I said was where retention for the core Creative is really higher than that, and when you think about it for the entire base, that includes consumers, it's also higher than 80%.

  • And so as we look at retention, it is actually a very good indicator of the core health of the business and we are pleased with that.

  • With respect to the Creative Cloud Photography Plan, it just continues to be a very vibrant way for us to attract new customers to our particular platform.

  • And since that was the last question, for me, my summary remarks would be while FY16 was clearly a great year, in many ways, I'm even more excited about the long-term opportunities that we have created for ourselves as a Company.

  • What we think about the two big areas of focus for Adobe empowering people to create and transforming how businesses compete, they just represent massive opportunities.

  • And our content and data platform really allow us to uniquely address this need.

  • On the Creative business, just continuing to enable any individual who has a story to tell to tell them across any medium, any device.

  • And on the enterprise side, enabling them to leverage technology to reinvent themselves as an experienced business represent large unmet needs.

  • I feel good that we're innovating while staying in an extremely select group of people and companies that are delivering impressive both top-line and bottom line growth.

  • I'd like to thank our customers, partners, employees and investors and wish you all a happy holiday season.

  • Thank you for joining us.

  • - VP of IR

  • This concludes our call.

  • Thanks, everyone.